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Hi,
First of All Welcome to the greatest HTC Development portal panel. Enjoy your stay but please follow the rules while you are here:
1. Search before you post. There is no point in asking the same question if it has already been answered. This is not a support portal, rather it is a portal for developers where developers share their knowledge and experience to the benefit of themselves as well as the ever growing HTC community. So if same question is asked again and again, be prepared to get flamed.
2. Respect other members:- this is essential for a thriving community portal. Do NOT use bad or abusive langauage.
3. Do NOT post any warez / crack / pirated softwares. This is not a portal to share illegal software, it you post any or give link to any such site / file your post will be reported to the Mods and you will face immediate ban. If any of you find any such post, please click on the '!' icon on top left to report such post.
4. Give the developers/chefs/skinners a break, they are not here selling you a product or service, they are just sharing your creations with you and YES there may be bugs in it, you can request them for certain stuff, but please don't demand.
5. If you are posting something, that is not your own creation, please mention the original author or post a link to the original post.
6. Before flashing your Gene please go through the Tutorial Stickey by krazy_about_technology.
7. Do not create duplicate post, ask a question only once. There is no point asking the same question over and over again.
8. Mind Your Language. This is a public forum and not a private forum, so mind the language you are using.
9. Please do not reply to useless and unnecessary threads like - I bricked my Vox after running hspl.exe, if you are really ichy to reply, just post a link to the tutorial stickey.
10. Share the knowledge: Share your knowledge, new findings, new tweaks etc with the community. Please understand that if other members did not replied to your queries, you will not be in the position that you are today - knowledge wise atleast. A lot of users have been seen that after starting a thread has finally signed off by saying ok, I got it working. But let the users of the forum know how did you get it working.
11. Do not clutter the forum / threads. Post your replies in subsequent threads. Do not post replies in non relevant threads. Like discussing issues of krazy's or ankit's or lomlom's ROM in the Upgdate tutorial thread (unless you have bricked your device in the process of updating one of the ROMs). Or post query / information about one ROM in another ROM's thread. Keep the threads clean and RELEVANT.
12. COMPLETE YOUR PROFILE . Its a very basic courtesey to let people know basic details about yourself, nobody is going to track you down to your home. You are interacting with fellow members every so often, so atleast they should know from you are from, it may actually help you in solving your issues faster.
This is not a preaching or something, just a guideline so that we can keep our forum neat and clean; all the suggestions has been assimilated after viewing General forums. If you have an issue, please see my favourite post in my siggy (BTW not posted by me, but one of the mods)
Thanks for keeping the forum clean (Or get ready to be flamed),
Just saw another post about "Bricking", looks like pple love to get flamed! and if you do get flamed, it won't be worth reporting to mods, since it is not a support site .
A request to all experience users, if you see a noob or other user asking for a certain information already there in the forum, please DO NOT give him /her the information in that thread, simply give him / her a link, they need to read the forum properly. And this way we will have less and less useless threads.
Lets keep our forum neat and clean.
I go even a step further and don't respond to such guys That way, they either try to find their own way by reading or go away and relieve us from further headaches lol
krazy_about_technology said:
I go even a step further and don't respond to such guys That way, they either try to find their own way by reading or go away and relieve us from further headaches lol
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OMG! Another one!
But buddy you are a developer, so you are contributing a lot to the site (unlike me ). So.. I am just trying to help the admins in my small way .
Do not reply to useless threads
Please do not reply to useless and unnecessary threads like - I bricked my Vox after running hspl.exe, if you are really ichy to reply, just post a link to the tutorial stickey.
Thanks for keeping the forum clean.
it kinda makes me
hi
im sorry to say most of these guys who are posting threds are lazy guys and it kinda make wana say u no XYZ to these guys but then as this is a forum and cant uses unparliamentary words i cant say what i want to
u know when i can to this furum i had sent many many PMs to many pros here most of then never even replied or gave me very rude reply until i found this absolutely nice very very helpfull kind person(im not mentioning his name here cause i don't want others to bug him cause of me ) and i kinda bugged him and he helped well all people have to do is try but they want to take the easy way out
I humbly request the pros hers not to reply to such guys till they find out a ways to contact u
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hi
..... contact u
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Yeah, I know some Senior users are rude, or rather they become rude by replying same questions over and over again. But we need to keep our forum clean don't me.
BTW I know whom you are talking about. That person is amazing, nobody shares knowledge like he does (well except one other guy). Basically what I am trying to point out is if we keep on replying to these lazy pple on the thread they have created, they will take it for granted. Instead let them search and get a solution.
When I joined this forum (Gene, not Vox), the forum was nearly barren, I hope a lot of you will remember, there was not even a thread for tutorial, yet I found solutions about upgrading my gene by using the hspl from one post and the ROM from another post!
So my point is read Read READ!
@everyone:
if you think I am going over the top, read my favourite post in my siggy.
Completly agree with you Addicted2XDA Although i came to this forum to be a leecher like i did for many symbian forums when i was using that Nokia [email protected] (in my personal openion only), i found out that its actually not a Pirate Shop like many symbian forums where ppl just post software cracked by cracking groups, which i wont mention here but most of us must be knowing them already
XDA was different, people were mostly developers so there was an oppertunity to learn so much about the platform that i was waiting to get my hands on for last so many years. Moreover, No ROM which was only one at that time) on the forum was satisfying my need as i need Windows Live in my day to day use. So i decided to dive deeper and build a ROM for meself. AndHere came the Angel, Ramerson, with his fantabulous kitchen and a good heart too, to help people like me with their naive adventures in this wonderful world. And rest is history now
Also apart from my personal needs, i was feeling that the GENE community is somewhat not taken care of by anyone,reason for that maybe because in some countries its a very old phone. But for me, this phone is special, no matter in future i get a Touch Diamond 2 or whatever GENE got me into this WinMo bandwagon and i really have a place for it in my heart. Thats why i decided that no longer will people starve for good WM 6.1 Gene ROMs in this forum. May be i was destined to do it Anyways, now i am quiet happy that people have good choices.
And people like Ankit360 are even taking the efforts futher with WM 6.5. I will too work on it when it releases, but the things that Ankit is doing right now, are really worthy. He is a very nice guy too, and he was the person who was online for hours while i was patching my SPL. i was so scared to do it, has not he been online, i wouldn't have touched it. The method was also published by him originally. I just took it and made it a cosmetically better looking tut thread. I thought that Ankit was there when i needed it, but how many people can have that privilege? So, the Sticky to Unlocking and Flashing was born.
Its been about 4-5 months since i first came here, and the journey has been delightful. I am now diving into some application programming also with .NET and will try to design utilities for day to day problems. I am not having a permanent income source as of now, thats why i haven't donated to this forum, but whenever i'll get one, you'll see "stars" growing besides my name, if you know what i mean
That's what i like to say to everyone coming here. Take whatever you want and can from this forum, it has a big heart for everyone. But do take care to not mess it up and help in keeping it a great place for everyone to enjoy. Its not necessary that you should make ROMs or Software, but the kind of help that Addicted, Hari and many others do is also extremely valuable for the forum.
I hope somebody is listening to all this
i have put a thread yesterday
hi
by the way yesterday i have put a thread as a humble request i hope people read it and understand the implication of wasting a thread this is very short and not as much in detail as additcteds is but as i know their are many lazy guys here i thought they might have more patience to read my thread
and yes addict ur thread is very good and precise to the point
i hope they do and understand sorry to not mention the name of the person who helped me as i dont want the other lazy guys get his name and start bugging him of course most of the people who have posted here know who im speaking of and once again i say thanks a million to this great guy with a heart of gold
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Co..Touch Diamond 2
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Touch Pro is better
LOL but the design of TD2 suits me better. The round corners of TP2 really bug me. TD2 is a bit more man-ly, if you know what i mean But ya, the screen and stereo speakers of TP2 rock! And looking at the one speaker of GENE which sounds quiet fine, i think the stereo speakers will be quiet music friendly
plz do not write which rom u currently using in signature it's discouraging me bcoz nobody using my rom
just kidding
Ankit,
We definitely look forward to a new build ROM from you. Please see the OLD Gene (HT 7XX) users are not left out.
Ankit...do it fornew Gene
Come on Ankit we are waiting for ur window 6.5 for new gene....
U are genio!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL but the design of TD2 suits me better. The round corners of TP2 really bug me. TD2 is a bit more man-ly, if you know what i mean But ya, the screen and stereo speakers of TP2 rock! And looking at the one speaker of GENE which sounds quiet fine, i think the stereo speakers will be quiet music friendly
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Actually I was talking about the full hardware keyboard of the TP2 (Yeah, i know i go insane when i see a physical qwerty keyboard ). Its really convenient for mailing, you should agree . In my personal opinion, the difference between a physical keyboard and an on screen keyboard is sort of like the difference between a TVSE Champ and a TVSE Gold .
And like you, Vox will always have a special place in my heart, since it was the first wm device for me.
Yeah, i do value the hardware keyboard, specially after i have experienced one of my friend's SE Xperia, works marvelously well, specially when i write programs in pocket c#, as well as messaging and email.
An important point added, No. 10.
This post is made to just push it up the list .
why dont we make this post a stickey
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An important point added, No. 10.
This post is made to just push it up the list .
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why dont we make this post a stickey...so it stays on top always...just a suggestion...
htc3400 said:
why dont we make this post a stickey...so it stays on top always...just a suggestion...
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Already made the request, but its not upto us . Lets see what the mods think.
Closed as per OP request : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3460956&postcount=389
Ta
Dave
Where can I download this DEV version? I have looked everywhere. Or is it perhaps only available to developers?
Wasn't sure whether or not I should ask, but I figured it's better to ask too much rather than not asking at all.
Theshawty said:
Where can I download this DEV version? I have looked everywhere. Or is it perhaps only available to developers?
Wasn't sure whether or not I should ask, but I figured it's better to ask too much rather than not asking at all.
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if you want to test DEV versions of miniCM you need to ask nAa so that he can send you email with link; new features and so on
of course, DEV versions are expected not to be stable, buggy, laggy or anything else
your phone can also be bricked after that
so testing DEV versions is not risk free.
you are absolutely responsible of what you do to your device
DEV versions are there to hunt bugs if any, so testing them isn't for only pleasure but also to help nAa in the development progress
hope that answers is what you expected
it is absolutely not recommended to ask for link if you can't help in any way
no noobs, no spammers there, only real users, testers and dev that can contribute to the dev progress
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So, guys. We need to wake up. We need to stop asking for estimated time of arrive. We need to respect all the developers. Please read every posts before you posting. Please search before posting. We've lost many awesome developers. It's all because of you you guys keep asking for ETA and never search before posting question. When developers feel tired, then he just decide to leave XDA. XDA is a big family. Only respect between each other can help to maintain the peace. Every developers & members deserved to be respected.
Regarding the CM9 thread, guys. Stop asking about the ETA and 'IS CAMERA WORKING?'! We could lost the only unofficial CM9 development for Galaxy Ace because of that.
Regarding the AOKP thread, guys. Be nice to the developer. Although they made some mistakes. But we have to respect them too. They're human being, not GOD. They working on AOKP based on the CM9. The only AOKP development for Ace currently.
Furthermore, I want to apology to moderators and every members for my behavior. I know I made a mistake. I shouldn't post all those things. Once again, a truly apology to every members and moderators. Sorry.
Some of us made some threads like these last time .
Did they listen to us ? No . The noobishness got worse .
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace. Problem?
Excellent post sir. Your posts re moderator were very nasty and to be honest I'm a little surprised that he's allowed you to stay on xda. Your apology does however appear to be genuine and heart-felt. Regarding the noobs it's important that we guide, advise and assist them, not shout, swear and otherwise abuse what will, eventually, be the devs of the future. I trust that senior members will take the lead in this and stop moaning about noobs xda is not meant to be a closed shop and all new members should be made welcome.
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Excellent post sir. Your posts re moderator were very nasty and to be honest I'm a little surprised that he's allowed you to stay on xda. Your apology does however appear to be genuine and heart-felt. Regarding the noobs it's important that we guide, advise and assist them, not shout, swear and otherwise abuse what will, eventually, be the devs of the future. I trust that senior members will take the lead in this and stop moaning about noobs xda is not meant to be a closed shop and all new members should be made welcome.
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The thing is that this is a DEVELOPER forum . I've seen such a thread where the noobs were trying to fight back discrimination , but were bashed down by the senior mods again .
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace. Problem?
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The thing is that this is a DEVELOPER forum . I've seen such a thread where the noobs were trying to fight back discrimination , but were bashed down by the senior mods again .
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace. Problem?
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That, leaves me to think what I'm doing here...
We're all here to learn and share experiences from one another . Not to ask and whine about ETAs
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace. Problem?
As EmoBoiix3 said, this has been done. Imo people should stop trying to be a revolutionist and just do their part instead of telling others what to do. The only people who will take this to their hearts are those who have a bit decency, and those people are most likely not the "noobs" aka spammers. This kind of stuff are soon to be classified as spam.
It's not that hard to differentiate between genuine noobs (count the posts) and the habitual spammers. Report the spammers to moderator - I'm sure most would agree that so far he has been very fair and quite pro-active in handing out warnings by PM, giving general warnings on thread and being very willing to engage with members. It's his ot their job to police the site and ours to help keep it as clean as possible without totally stiflling comment and input. Also there is one section for Devs this section is everybody's.
Developers have no purpose without anyone to use their Mods and Roms etc.
great post, even great idea, but lets face it, noobs are gonna ignore this
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great post, even great idea, but lets face it, noobs are gonna ignore this
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Get it straight it is not the NOOBS who are the problem. It's the attitude of the rest of us towards them. We should show equal understanding and respect to Devs and Noobs alike !!!
Sometimes they do get pretty annoying lol
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Of course people are lazy. Three or more of the problems surrounding this thread have been posted about several times I note. Maybe the "search this thread" button needs more prominence and easier to use. Maybe repeat questioners should always be directed to search button? It's our xda can't we work to improve it rather than despairing?
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Yep. I made a lot for Samsung Star (not android phone) without any code on my hand 2 years ago. I developed for LG OP, HTC on tiad and did a few things for galaxy 5. As it was in other forums my posts for some of you make me a noob right?
That's why I disagree on calling someone noob just because of the number of posts... And also treating noobs in a bad way because they make the same mistake all of us have made: not searching.
We should just provide a kind answer and invite them to use the searchbar instead of kicking them out.
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Yo
My previous phone had a thread like this (also more phones has such a thread) and I'm quite missing it haha. We don't have a general section yet though, but the thread can be moved if we will get one.
So, here it is... off topic thread. You can post everything, but not development and bug solving stuff.
RULES FOR POSTING IN THIS THREAD:
● USE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (XDA rules says that you can post in your own language, but provide English translation too)
● NO FLAMING
● NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, RACIAL, POLITICAL AND / OR RELIGIOUS DISCUSSIONS
● DO NOT USE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE
● DO NOT POST NUDE / PORNOGRAPHIC PICTURES
● DO NOT POST DEVELOPMENT AND BUG SOLVING STUFF
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And with this occasion, I wish you a happy birthday and wonderful day, @Nick Verse .
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Yo
My previous phone had a thread like this (also more phones has such a thread) and I'm quite missing it haha. We don't have a general section yet though, but the thread can be moved if we will get one.
So, here it is... off topic thread. You can post everything, but not development and bug solving stuff.
RULES FOR POSTING IN THIS THREAD:
And with this occasion, I wish you a happy birthday and wonderful day, @Nick Verse .
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its great to have a thread like this, all things in one place. To start off i am looking forward to some rooting tricks which can enable the sdcard to be formatted or behave as internal memory on stock rom. CM 13 does allow that but here i mean stock rom , give a thumbs up if anyone got something:fingers-crossed: to share.
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its great to have a thread like this, all things in one place. To start off i am looking forward to some rooting tricks which can enable the sdcard to be formatted or behave as internal memory on stock rom. CM 13 does allow that but here i mean stock rom , give a thumbs up if anyone got something:fingers-crossed: to share.
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Umm, isnt this related to development?
Anyway, is anybody watching animes?
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Umm, isnt this related to development?
Anyway, is anybody watching animes?
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Watching "Is it wrong to try to pick up girls in a dungeon"
Ace MoGor said:
Watching "Is it wrong to try to pick up girls in a dungeon"
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Umm, it seems interesting haha.
I'm currently watching Naruto Shippuden.
I haven't watched many animes, just few until now:
● Yu Yu Hakusho - when I was kid
● Inuyasha - not fully though, I watched when I was kid as well
● Kuroko no Basket all seasons ( 3 if I remember properly)
● Sword Art Online all seasons
● Hunter X Hunter
KingWilliams said:
Sorry for being off topic guys. As u see there are 11 threads in our j5 roms and kernel forums which have been closed either on OP request or GPL compliant problem or because of warez involvement! This made our forums look really untidy. So what I am asking here is do the forum moderators have the authority of "Deleting" the entire thread? If so then can we do something so that forum looks cleaner?
Edit:
I just downloaded 16 GB source of Pacman rom and setup up my laptop for the build process. So would any of u guys like to work in collaboration with me on this provided u have some knowledge on this source stuff ( i will take help from Ganesh or Nick as well)? Ofcourse it will be after 2 months. Just wanted to ask in advance as i couldn't get my head off this .
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You should have posted here, although i mentioned in OP to not post stuff related to development.
I dont know if is possible to delete that threads and i wouldnt suggest that since our forum is not even popular yet. Deleting these threads would make our j5 forum to not look popular.
We got J5 forum because we had some threads with roms & kernel and there were some other threads.
I will report your post in the thread regarding MM warning... because this kind of post lead to more replies which will make the thread more cluttered...
Hey guys.
I have just managed to get myself a new contract phone ! After years of no credit they are giving me a new phone ! I will have the Honour 8 as from Monday !
So my question is, what do I do with this J500FN ?
It's running really well, rooted, TWRP and ZONIK's Performance ROM.
Do I keep it and just use it for helping test ROMs on here ( I like this forum)
Or do I sell it on ?
What do you think ??
John
johnhux7 said:
Hey guys.
I have just managed to get myself a new contract phone ! After years of no credit they are giving me a new phone ! I will have the Honour 8 as from Monday !
So my question is, what do I do with this J500FN ?
It's running really well, rooted, TWRP and ZONIK's Performance ROM.
Do I keep it and just use it for helping test ROMs on here ( I like this forum)
Or do I sell it on ?
What do you think ??
John
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Huawei Honour 8 is a nice phone and i see that it has xda forum too. I would say to keep it, sell it or give it to someone from your family or to a developer which is interested to build for this phone (FROM SOURCE !) haha. Its my opinion.
Btw, you shouldnt have quoted KingWilliam post in warning thread....
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Huawei Honour 8 is a nice phone and i see that it has xda forum too. I would say to keep it, sell it or give it to someone from your family or to a developer which is interested to build for this phone (FROM SOURCE !) haha. Its my opinion.
Btw, you shouldnt have quoted KingWilliam post in warning thread....
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All these rules!! I'm trying to get the hang of it all!! I will delete it
Thanks for answering.
The Honour 8 is a great phone I'm chuffed to be getting it.
I think I'm going to keep the phone and just use it for helping to test ROMs and yes from scorce if they are available !
I have to use the best these there is and I must say that the one I'm using is about the best that I have used !
I hope that CM13 well be out soon and the RR looks promising.
Good idea about the thread
John
#Henkate said:
Huawei Honour 8 is a nice phone and i see that it has xda forum too. I would say to keep it, sell it or give it to someone from your family or to a developer which is interested to build for this phone (FROM SOURCE !) haha. Its my opinion.
Btw, you shouldnt have quoted KingWilliam post in warning thread....
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Yes I think I'm going to keep the J5. I will just use it for testing ROMS on here. I like being involved in this forum and love the development or our android !
Please remember this if you ever do come up with any new roms and want somebodu to do the testing.
I'm chuffed that I'm getting a new phone. I didn't go out to get the Honour 8 they offered it and I had read about it on here.
It's a great phone with loads of RAM and it gets lots of OTA updates. I wonder how long it will be before it's rooted !!
I will let you know how it goes
John
Anyone here used to be a serious watcher of game of thrones?
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Anyone here used to be a serious watcher of game of thrones?
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A boy has watched GOT ?
#Henkate said:
You should have posted here, although i mentioned in OP to not post stuff related to development.
I dont know if is possible to delete that threads and i wouldnt suggest that since our forum is not even popular yet. Deleting these threads would make our j5 forum to not look popular.
We got J5 forum because we had some threads with roms & kernel and there were some other threads.
I will report your post in the thread regarding MM warning... because this kind of post lead to more replies which will make the thread more cluttered...
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Yeah Okie..i got it :highfive:..the thing is I didn't see this thread at all
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Ace MoGor said:
A boy has watched GOT ?
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Not a boy, my friend. A man :good:
Happy happy happy birthday to you @Nick Verse
#Henkate said:
Yo
My previous phone had a thread like this (also more phones has such a thread) and I'm quite missing it haha. We don't have a general section yet though, but the thread can be moved if we will get one.
So, here it is... off topic thread. You can post everything, but not development and bug solving stuff.
RULES FOR POSTING IN THIS THREAD:
And with this occasion, I wish you a happy birthday and wonderful day, @Nick Verse .
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God bless u my bro @Nick Verse
Does somebody play csgo?
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Does somebody play csgo?
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I play cs 1.6. Never played cs go.
We could play 1.6 if you are interested
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Very strange way of behaving.
Now what roms we gonna use ?
R u gonna make one ???
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Strange? What's strange in being correct? Is that hard to respect forum rules and developers work (to not post warez and such) ? Is that hard?
It's up to you what ROM you'll use.
I'm not gonna make a new ROM. But I can help others in making their ROM, only the ones that deserve.
Btw, is anybody watching animes?
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Strange? What's strange in being correct? Is that hard to respect forum rules and developers work (to not post warez and such) ? Is that hard?
It's up to you what ROM you'll use.
I'm not gonna make a new ROM. But I can help others in making their ROM, only the ones that deserve.
Btw, is anybody watching animes?
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Henkate, I understand why you have done what you have done
The only problem is that you have stopped the roms that we are using and people ain't gonna be happy with that.
There are alot of people that were using them roms and were waiting for updates.
Your actions ain't gonna make you any friends mate but that obviously don't bother you.
Rules are rules I know but nobody was complaining . I too noticed the warez etc in the ROMs but didn't go report it as we were using the roms and it was making out phones better.
I could understand it more if you was making ROMs from source your self but your not.
I don't think many people are gonna work with you mate.
John
johnhux7 said:
Henkate, I understand why you have done what you have done
The only problem is that you have stopped the roms that we are using and people ain't gonna be happy with that.
There are alot of people that were using them roms and were waiting for updates.
Your actions ain't gonna make you any friends mate but that obviously don't bother you.
Rules are rules I know but nobody was complaining . I too noticed the warez etc in the ROMs but didn't go report it as we were using the roms and it was making out phones better.
I could understand it more if you was making ROMs from source your self but your not.
I don't think many people are gonna work with you mate.
John
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Only correct people work with correct people.
Let's stop this. If you want to talk in PM, I'll give you an empty PM to reply since you say that can't send PM.
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Only correct people work with correct people.
Let's stop this. If you want to talk in PM, I'll give you an empty PM to reply since you say that can't send PM.
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OK mate do that please
What's up with the devlopment dudes? There's basically no ROMs or kernels. We need to request xiaomi to send this device to a few devs and/or start a donation thread for a official los dev
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What's up with the devlopment dudes? There's basically no ROMs or kernels. We need to request xiaomi to send this device to a few devs and/or start a donation thread for a official los dev
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Not sure what you are talking about, there are a few developers working on a few ROMS now... To any of the devs reading this, please ignore rude people like him... We really appreciate your efforts and work!!
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Not sure what you are talking about, there are a few developers working on a few ROMS now... To any of the devs reading this, please ignore rude people like him... We really appreciate your efforts and work!!
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Oh I'm sorry if I came across as rude, I'm new to the development community here and meant that as a casual message, as well as a suggestion to find a official los dev, which would ensure the longevity of this device compared to something like a poco f1
Also, I was exaggerating slightly when I said no ROMs or kernels - kudos to those developing right now. I'm thinking maybe of compiling a few ROMs as well