I have made the mistake of upgrading my flyer to HC
It is slower than GB ... I have just spoken to HTC re downgrading back to GB and they say its not possible and I could send my flyer in for a repair but it would be re loaded with HC
I have told the chap I spoke with that there seems to be a problem with HC as some users on xda have issues . he says its not a fault htc know about
Question is there anything I can do to speed up HC .. I have factory reset
I dont wanna downgrade back to GB as I have only got the flyer today
and dont want to void my warranty ....... I actually do like HC but the sluggishness is a not good
Thanks
Some people tend to have issues with lag and responsiveness on HC, while other don't. Some people have even commented that performance on HC is better. On mine, the response seems nearly identical to GB. Maybe some things a a tiny bit faster, while others a tiny bit slower, but hardly even perceptible. Considering the fact that HC has more animations and other eye candy, but still as snappy and responsive as GB, means to me that its chugging along quite well.
Did you do the official OTA upgrade to HC? It just seems notionally to me that the official OTA is causing more sluggish response than globatron's method. But its just a hunch.
You might wait a day or 2 to let the OS settle in, things might improve. But otherwise, I don't think there is anything you can do to speed it up.
Yes, it looks like you have to use HTC Unlock and void your warranty, in order to downgrade (according to globatron's guide). So it looks like your biggest mistake was probably updating via the OTA, instead of rooting and using globatron's method to upgrade. In that case, you can still return the device to stock and HTC would never know you rooted (warranty still intact)>
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Did you do the official OTA upgrade to HC? It just seems notionally to me that the official OTA is causing more sluggish response than globatron's method. But its just a hunch.
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I'm using the stock OTA HC upgrade, and mine is not sluggish compared to Gingerbread in the slightest. Like you said, it's easily just as fast, if not slightly faster.
I wonder if the people reporting sluggishness on HC did a factory reset upon installing the update. Doing a factory reset and clearing everything out always helps to avoid potential issues with updates, especially major OS updates like HC. Sure you're technically not supposed to have to and it's a chore to re-install everything, but I've always found that it makes quite a positive difference.
It seems to have settled my problem is im comparing to my galaxy note whuch is the mega wrong thing do do. my first 6hrs with my flyer im impressed fingers crossed we get ics
Ive only found five apps whuch arent compatible so im impressed
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Did you do the official OTA upgrade to HC? It just seems notionally to me that the official OTA is causing more sluggish response than globatron's method. But its just a hunch.
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If that is the case I would suspect it is only due to the data being wiped. I don't have anything in my procedures that in any way changes performance. It is literally just stock HC with root+busybox.
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Anyone tried the new HC release 3.55.405.1 available in Globatron's thread (link below) ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
I would like to know what improvements changes exist in comparison to the version HC 3.48.405.1
The problems I have in version HC 3.48.405.1 are:
MyBackup Pro force closes on open.
Dolphin HD freezes and needs to be force closed from time to time.
I have heard of other issues related to the Stylus but I don't use it so I don't know of them.
I would like to hear some feedback on anyone who has tried the new HC release.
Thanks
On initial reviews it is the same. Maybe a little smoother but probably placebo. Benchmarks are a little higher. Have not played too much yet. Can report more later
thank you, I will probably load it tonight when I get home from work myself but was hoping to get some idea of the changes before applying the new version.
The fact that I can't use MyBackup Pro means I might have to reinstall everything which I would rather not do. Did you do a full wipe before upgrading or just apply the new ZIP over the old one? (keep Data partitiion)
It gets wiped in ruu flash
Hi,
I've just updated to the 3.55.405.1 release. For me it is a much better release (so far) than any of the previous HC leaks.
I've a need to run an IBM branded application on my device. This works fine on GB but I've been unable to make it work on any of the prior HC leaks.
IBM had looked at the problem and claimed it was a HTC issue. Now with this latest leak the IBM application not only installs and runs successfully, but I notice that it even the UI has changed slightly as it has become 'aware' that it's on HC.
Iain
I'm running the new HC leak and still need to force close Dolphin HD at times...haven't used the pen extensively.
Other than that it seems to work well. I was able to install Airdroid which I couldn't on the previous leak.
HC is definitely a nice change from gingerbread. Makes the Flyer feel more like a tablet than a big phone. Very refreshing.
Ken
Thanks for the infos, still no calls?
I read a reply in a thread which explained that the current ICS leak runs the CPU full speed, instead of scaling it, whenever the screen is on. This was the member's explanation for why some people notice their phones running hotter than on GB.
Is this true? And to the extent that it is true, is it true of the preceding leaks as well? I guess what I'm wondering is whether this is something that HTC might be hoping to resolve before going live with an OTA.
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I read a reply in a thread which explained that the current ICS leak runs the CPU full speed, instead of scaling it, whenever the screen is on. This was the member's explanation for why some people notice their phones running hotter than on GB.
Is this true? And to the extent that it is true, is it true of the preceding leaks as well? I guess what I'm wondering is whether this is something that HTC might be hoping to resolve before going live with an OTA.
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Your guess is as good as mine and I too read that same reply. I've been trying to figure this out since the leak came out. Some people aren't having any problems and some people are having all sorts of problems. I haven't been in the Rezound thread long but I'm not new to flashing and I've been going back on forth on doing the leak or waiting for either the source for kernel help or the official ota. I was thinking maybe it was "noob" mistakes but from alot of the posts it seems that experienced flashers are having problems as well. Scott has a kernel thread in the Dev section if you wish to follow that, if you aren't already. I know that all phones are created equal and there are some built better than others. So far I've been pretty fortunate in my phones. I've never had to take a phone in for repair that I didn't eff up myself.... Obviously, I'd like to think by the time we get the official ota all things will be resolved but you never know. When I had my Evo 3D it took the latest ota to solve alot of battery issues that we had. I know I don't answer your question but I too have similar ones myself. Be well.
The current leak/kernel that is having problems is part of a release candidate, we can only hope HTC resolves it before the update is finalized. I wouldn't be surprised if another leak/release candidate shows up in the near future, each one has fixed more issues found in the earlier leaks.
jjwalter--
If I was in your shoes I would not take the leak. My phone is worse than bricked.
I can put the .11 GB kernel back on the phone with my old software, but the WIFI doesn't seem to work with the ICS radio firmware, and the thing's running hotter than ever.
I had no heat or battery life issues on the current GB -- all my problems began when I flashed the .22 leak. And as long as I'm stuck with these radios I don't think they'll get better. Your mileage may vary, but if it was up to me I wouldn't get in that car again.
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djwalter--
If I was in your shoes I would not take the leak. My phone is worse than bricked.
I can put the .11 GB kernel back on the phone with my old software, but the WIFI doesn't seem to work with the ICS radio firmware, and the thing's running hotter than ever.
I had no heat or battery life issues on the current GB -- all my problems began when I flashed the .22 leak. And as long as I'm stuck with these radios I don't think they'll get better. Your mileage may vary, but if it was up to me I wouldn't get in that car again.
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Thanks for the heads up. From past flashing experience I have never seen a leak with a radio and firmware update. It's usually just a rom. With a leak this close I'm sure the ota isn't too far off and I'll just keep hanging around and root and flash once that drops. Thanks again.
I know if I were HTC/Verizon/ATT/Motorola... I'd be leaking any new builds right here on XDA. You couldn't find a better group of knowledgeable testers anywhere. In my mind, these leaks are on purpose, and I'd also guess there will be future releases that fix the issues the group here has found.
im running the latest leaked version and i have no heat problems whatsoever. i play hd games, on youtube for hours, etc...hottest its gotten was 120 degrees thats it. im running stock. as far as im concerned GB is dead to me
My phone doesn't get hot playing games on the leak, but you put that mofo to stream some music and it about burns through my pants in class, and then half my extended battery is gone. It is definately due to the scaling issue
Yea I see a lot of people saying they have heat and reboot issue but they are the same people asking newb questions if ya wipe everything, check the md5, flash the ruu, and do it right you will not have problems 99% of the time. Don't be afraid to update just because a couple user experience problems its not like some guy in his mom's basement made this leak its a leak from google got out god knows how but still built with their algorithm, software, and knowledgeable engineers. I would update sense 3.6 is way better than 3.5 and ics has a lot more backup options and a better user experience. I recommend you do just make sure to do a backup before you do so you can revert back if need be.
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What are the across the board issues with ics at the moment on the rezound? I'm thinking about coming from the bionic/thunderbolt, no Ril and hardware acceleration, etc.
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What are the across the board issues with ics at the moment on the rezound? I'm thinking about coming from the bionic/thunderbolt, no Ril and hardware acceleration, etc.
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There aren't any for me. Runs perfectly on my phone. Everything works the way it should.
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There aren't any for me. Runs perfectly on my phone. Everything works the way it should.
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Yep, I'm with ^ Everything is running top notch for me as well.
What are the bluetooth issues mentioned in the ics rom threads? I saw it said there was one known issue, but didn't specify.
I just did the update to the leaked ICS and I couldn't be happier. First of all it was so easy to do. It's like a whole different phone. So fast and smooth. I think since our phone has the same specs as the skyrocket but with more pixels to push the note is hampered quite a bit. ICS I think makes better use of hardware acceleration and there fore speeds up the phone quite alot. Btw, since this rom isn't rooted will it still get the ota update when it comes out?
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i tried the leak as well, did not like it at all, full of bugs and other issues. not to mention I lost root and my radio as well. tried to go back to Saurom, ended wiping out my external SD card aw well. so my Titanium and CWM backups were gone too. worst of all, it soft bricked the phone. that was likely my fault, but what an ordeal.
yeah, i'm gonna wait on a real DEV port, leaks, not so good for me.
I just find the battery life sucks on ics.
I liked it too for a few days until my touch screen started to become unresponsive. It got so bad i had to touch icons 2-3 times to get anything to work. I didn't notice a difference in battery life, but I wasn't looking for it either. I went back to stock ( after a struggle) and then back to Saurom ROM, which runs every bit as fast for me as ICS, and without the problems I experienced. I got 3500 quadrant scores on leaked ICS, and thats what I average on Saurom without over clocking.
I also ran into the problem of a few apps force closing with ICS, and others not being compatible. The whole experience was actually good because it taught me how to root and flash my phone, and I learned much to the terminology from this forum. This is an awesome site.
Howdy.. I just received my Amaze 4G from T-mobile two days ago (Free with contract.. caught the sale right before it ended!)
In love with the phone, it's my first Android phone.. and I really want to upgrade to ICS.. but there's a couple of things holding me back
I've noticed benchmark scores have decreased considerably for people in ICS.. is this simply a lack of optimization for given benchmarks or something else? How is real world performance compared to GB?
If I upgrade to ICS and wanted to go back to GB for whatever reason, is it possible without hassle? (I'm stock, s-on, locked bootloader) This is a major one for me.. I'd like the assurance I can go back if there's something I don't like about it.
Will upgrading to ICS effect my warrenty or insurance policy? I'm afraid that if I upgrade to ICS i'll immediately have a problem with my phone and my warrenty will be void for upgrading..
And last but not least.. will upgrading to ICS ruin my ability to receive OTA updates? When ICS is officially released, will I still get the updates or will I have to revert to GB and then receive the upgrade (See question about reverting to GB.. is that possible easily?)
Sorry about all the questions! I've been doing as much reading as I can, but these are the questions I still find myself asking every time I'm about to try and flash ICS..... thanks guys for any information.
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Howdy.. I just received my Amaze 4G from T-mobile two days ago (Free with contract.. caught the sale right before it ended!)
In love with the phone, it's my first Android phone.. and I really want to upgrade to ICS.. but there's a couple of things holding me back
I've noticed benchmark scores have decreased considerably for people in ICS.. is this simply a lack of optimization for given benchmarks or something else? How is real world performance compared to GB?
If I upgrade to ICS and wanted to go back to GB for whatever reason, is it possible without hassle? (I'm stock, s-on, locked bootloader) This is a major one for me.. I'd like the assurance I can go back if there's something I don't like about it.
Will upgrading to ICS effect my warrenty or insurance policy? I'm afraid that if I upgrade to ICS i'll immediately have a problem with my phone and my warrenty will be void for upgrading..
And last but not least.. will upgrading to ICS ruin my ability to receive OTA updates? When ICS is officially released, will I still get the updates or will I have to revert to GB and then receive the upgrade (See question about reverting to GB.. is that possible easily?)
Sorry about all the questions! I've been doing as much reading as I can, but these are the questions I still find myself asking every time I'm about to try and flash ICS..... thanks guys for any information.
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Performance-wise, ICS is way smoother than any GB ROM I've tried on the Amaze by far. I never look at benchmark scores because I think they're bogus half the time.
Downgrading back to GB shouldn't be a problem since a lot of people are saying that the ICS radios are backwards compatible with GB ROMs, which is pretty convenient.
I believe unlocking bootloader will void your warranty but if a hardware problem occurs (eg. screen has a dead pixel, etc), HTC may still honour the hardware warranty since it's unrelated to software, I'm not sure 100% sure about this though.
Regarding OTA updates, I wouldn't worry too much about those since the developers here are always releasing ROMs based off of the latest firmware updates for the phone for us to flash so in one form another you'll be able to get the latest and greatest firmware.
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Performance-wise, ICS is way smoother than any GB ROM I've tried on the Amaze by far. I never look at benchmark scores because I think they're bogus half the time.
Downgrading back to GB shouldn't be a problem since a lot of people are saying that the ICS radios are backwards compatible with GB ROMs, which is pretty convenient.
I believe unlocking bootloader will void your warranty but if a hardware problem occurs (eg. screen has a dead pixel, etc), HTC may still honour the hardware warranty since it's unrelated to software, I'm not sure 100% sure about this though.
Regarding OTA updates, I wouldn't worry too much about those since the developers here are always releasing ROMs based off of the latest firmware updates for the phone for us to flash so in one form another you'll be able to get the latest and greatest firmware.
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Thanks for the reply! I wasn't planning on unlocking the bootloader.. I was just going to flash ICS with s-on and a locked bootloader. The major thing I worry about is that I see mixed reports about the new radio, some people having a major loss in quality/reception while others might ever report a gain! So I assume that the update to the radio isn't reverted if I were to downgrade to a GB ROM if ICS did not work out for me?
And I'm also assuming that if I do upgrade to ICS, that I would be forced to unlock the bootloader if I wished to downgrade back to GB?
Ah I'm so torn haha.. brand new phone and I love it so I'm a little weary with a "dont try to fix what aint broke" mentality...
my wifi is slightly better after upgrading, and signal is noticeably stronger.
After upgrading firmware I ran fourth bar fine, so going back shouldn't be a problem.
you shouldn't have any issues once you make the switch. If you're worried just waitt for ota
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I was right there with you, ericdjobs.
I decided to upgrade due to battery issues.
Custom ROM's that are debloated and tweaked do help, but the warranty concerns and OTA issues do bother me, too.
Now that OTA is out, did you wait long enough to stay stock and locked?
My WiFi speed has dropped about 10mb/s but data speed has increased about 5-7 mb/s
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Once you upgrade to ICS, you cannot downgrade back to GB unless you S-Off your device, just wanted to point that out, proceed with your discussion now.
Is there any benefit really of going to an ICS leak vs staying on GB kernel with ICS ROM ( Axiom AOKP ICS)? (If I do flash to ICS leak at this time I'd stick to the ones where I can still fastboot to 181.) I am leery of anything that gets me stuck, because I'm still under warrantee and also afraid I mighty not be able to ota to the official release once it happens (certainly not holding my breath that it will happen today). Just wondering if anyone has a quick idea of what I would be gaining (and losing) if I went to the ICS leak after using this ROM. I know I would lose ROM control, which sucks, but I don't really know what I might gain. Thanks so much!
Edit: in particular, is hardware acceleration better on the leaks than on ICS roms not running on the leaks? Mostly: Does Netflix work with any of the leaks? Thanks
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Hard to believe nobody has an opinion on this with how many posts I see about the leaks! Your opinions / advice will be greatly appreciated
Personally I avoid the leaks. They could be the official release or full of tons of bugs. My first priority is a functioning phone due to work, the bells and whistles are put on the back burner.
When ICS officially releases I don't want to lose my chances getting it by upgrading to a leak. Al though I'm sure the community will find a way to receive the OTA regardless of the current state of your phone, I'd rather not spend hours upon hours reverting back and forwards firmware-wise.
If you can deal with bugs and such then by all means go for the leak
At this poit in don't think is worth tring a leak, ics will be realeased soon (oh well not sure but i hope that is it XD) in the worst case waiting about 15 days is ok
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At this poit in don't think is worth tring a leak, ics will be realeased soon (oh well not sure but i hope that is it XD) in the worst case waiting about 15 days is ok
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I REALLY don't think that 15 days is the worst case scenario..
But anyway... Thanks for your opinions. However, I'm really looking for information from people who have tried the leaks.. Especially whether or not Hardware Acceleration is working better on leaked ICS vs ICS ROMs on GB Kernel. Those who have tried the leak, do you see any real benefit to running it vs running any of the ICS Roms that can be flashed over non-leaked firmware versions (.181 mostly)? Thanks
The dangers of the methods people are using to get these leaks running aren't worth the trouble in my opinion. 209 works pretty well from what Ive seen, but the BP tools thing seems to cause intermittent problems. Its a matter of how far you are willing to go to have it now.
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Well, i ended up flashing .79 ICS leak (since out can be reverted to GB) and it works great! Netflix works fine, my 4g is stable and the system is snappy. I'm not going to update to a later leak and get "stuck" but I think I'll try this out until the official OTA drops then I'll revert to stock and upgrade. thanks everyone