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Wanting to get some peoples opinions on if i should go ahead and flash a GB rom and GB radio? I am currently running Das BAMF 1.7 and loving it. If there is something better out there, I am wanting it lol. I always like to try new things but definitley dont want to brick my TB.
It is your phone your call. The warning thread has made it aware there is no fix for the potential bricking they mentioned and the ROM threads for GB have all the pros/cons. With that said I went back to Froyo for a couple of days and flashed GB again on Friday night. Runs great (again)
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I'll be the dude that says it. This belongs in Q&A not in development.
PIITB and go for it.
Identical thread is identical.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104447
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I'm running CM7 GB and besides the flaky wifi and broken GPS everything is flawless. Running like a champ and no chance of the bootloop bricking.
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powerstroke said:
but definitley dont want to brick my TB.
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If you are saying this then I'd probably stay off GB for a bit until the bricking issue is resolved.
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I'm running CM7 GB and besides the flaky wifi and broken GPS everything is flawless. Running like a champ and no chance of the bootloop bricking.
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Laughing... Except for the things that don't work..... Priceless!
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Lets take the bricking issues out of the equation for a minute.
What's out there now is the sense ALPHA leak, or CM7 alpha.There are no GB ROM's out there right now completely developed for the thunderbolt. Dev's have done a great job getting these to work reasonably well considering what they have to work with. Until there is a high level release/leak we won't likely see any GB ROM's that are stable, efficient, and bug free.
Now if you are a tweaker, and are dying to see what the new features are, sure give it a shot. Other than that there really is nothing to be gained by going with GB at the moment. The Froyo ROM's are built of off completed, released code. At the moment they perform better, are more efficient, have more support, less bugs, and are stable.
Short awnser, nah...Just wait a bit until there is a better leak.
Do it.
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Lets take the bricking issues out of the equation for a minute.
What's out there now is the sense ALPHA leak, or CM7 alpha.There are no GB ROM's out there right now completely developed for the thunderbolt. Dev's have done a great job getting these to work reasonably well considering what they have to work with. Until there is a high level release/leak we won't likely see any GB ROM's that are stable, efficient, and bug free.
Now if you are a tweaker, and are dying to see what the new features are, sure give it a shot. Other than that there really is nothing to be gained by going with GB at the moment. The Froyo ROM's are built of off completed, released code. At the moment they perform better, are more efficient, have more support, less bugs, and are stable.
Short awnser, nah...Just wait a bit until there is a better leak.
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Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
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Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
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For usb mounting I believe by putting the phone into internet passthrough and allowing the drivers to install to computer...then go to disk drive it should work. lemme know if it does
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For usb mounting I believe by putting the phone into internet passthrough and allowing the drivers to install to computer...then go to disk drive it should work. lemme know if it does
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Its still a "problem" so to say because it doesn't do it automatically
It takes some effort to get adb to funcion too
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I wasnt going to go back to Froyo at first because i was loving the new features, plus i was getting reboots on froyo ever since i went to a custom ROM, when i got on GB, they stopped, but the scare got the best of me so i ran back to Froyo. I flashed the old CDMA/old LTE radio version (the 4th one on the thread) and went back to BAMF 1.6.3. Fortunately, the reboots did not return with Froyo and everything has been running great. i have thought about going back to GB, but i am going to wait until an official radio gets leaked. Only because that radio still needs some work and my battery was draining much faster than it was when i was on Froyo. So it's been nice to have the longer lasting battery back.
superchilpil said:
Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
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You are welcome to that opinion, but many others, including myself have experienced the exact opposite with battery life. GPS was improved though.
I get about 18-30 hours on Froyo depending on use...I never topped 15 hours on GB, and the performance was worse as well.
When I had my D1 however, GB did wonders for that phone (CM7). It improved performance and battery life by leaps and bounds...I hope for those same results on the thunderbolt once better leaks/releases are available.
Edit: When speaking about thunderbolt GB battery life/performance, I am referring to the sense roms. It's been a while since I used CM7 on the TB so it's possible that is better.
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You are welcome to that opinion, but many others, including myself have experienced the exact opposite with battery life. GPS was improved though.
I get about 18-30 hours on Froyo depending on use...I never topped 15 hours on GB, and the performance was worse as well.
When I had my D1 however, GB did wonders for that phone (CM7). It improved performance and battery life by leaps and bounds...I hope for those same results on the thunderbolt once better leaks/releases are available.
Edit: When speaking about thunderbolt GB battery life/performance, I am referring to the sense roms. It's been a while since I used CM7 on the TB so it's possible that is better.
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I agree with ya. i dont see how anybody got/gets better battery life on GB right now, the drop in battery life was very evident.
So! My mother is on the lookout for a new phone, and this guy is cheap on Verizons site. Her phone that she has now, the LG Revolution, has constant freezing issues that irritate her beyond all belief, and because I know Android she dumps them all on me. I'm looking for some questions answered about this phone before I decide if this is the phone for her:
I have read on the Engadget Review that this phone freezes often. After custom ROMs are installed (I'm thinking MIUI), is this problem alleviated?
The LG Revolution has this weird issue where it's way too easy to scroll on it, which makes opening icons on any homescreen app drawer a huge PITA.
I basically need to be able to install ROM, drop it in her hands, and feel comfortable that she's not going to run into any hardware issues with the phone. This includes freezing because of memory issues.
Also, the drop of 4G isn't an issue, it's not in the area anyways.
Thanks guys for your comments and advice ahead of time.
This device pretty much poops on the revolution. That being said my device never froze when it was stock. We have alot of rom options from mtd based roms such as android 4.0 ICS v4, CM7.1 stable, Miui, Tsm pool party...also there are some really good TouchWiz Ginberbread roms such as, Superclean v.5, PWGB, Geewiz etc... I currently am bouncing between cm7 and ICS, but I cant say those are the best roms, they all are pretty good. You will just have to try them and see what your mother likes best.
No freezing problems here, although it does bug out on me with random pressings of the back key. Sometimes the phone will enter screen capture mode and take a screen shot every time I try to power it down. Removing the screencapture apk solves this.
Overall it has been a good phone and has served me well. Gotta love that Samsung display!
I havent had this device for that long, but I love it compared to by old Droid X, mostly due to nicer screen, better battery life, and easier hack-ability.
That being said, I personally am curious on what has been done, if anything, to the LG.
Has it been rooted?
Are you running aftermarket software?
Some freezing issues can be solved by changing ram parameters, others by getting rid of certain bad apps.
I personally would like to see if your problems are actually solvable before getting a new and unfamiliar device, just for S&G's of course
It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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I've had this phone for almost two years now and I've never had it freeze up on me. Install the SuperClean3 ROM. Solid ROM for that phone. I currently have ICS but for your mother's phone use SC3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350621
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Sebas310 said:
It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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Weird...
Does this happen on multiple ROMs, or just on stock?
pma7779 said:
I've had this phone for almost two years now and I've never had it freeze up on me. Install the SuperClean3 ROM. Solid ROM for that phone. I currently have ICS but for your mother's phone use SC3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350621
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Hes talking about his mom's LG, not a Fascinate...
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Hes talking about his mom's LG, not a Fascinate...
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Yes he is. Now I know.
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I'm also a fan of SuperClean. Great rom, with none of the AOSP issues that I find to be annoying enough to avoid. If you want to tweak it a bit, add KGB kernel and maybe a different launcher (I like OMFGB-Launcher) and Rom Toolbox will handle just about everything else. This is my setup, no major tweaks (lag fix, etc) other than zram and 1.2 gHz overclock. Fast and stable.
Hi, I haven't been an xda user in a while , I used to love tinkering around with my phones all day long.
now, I life has been taking over and I don't have the time to try out new stuff all day long.
that being said, the last rom I tried was a team whiskey bionix v1.3.1 sometime in early 2011 . I don't even think I wiped anything since.
I want a new rom, I feel like my phone is getting sluggish. I don't want to try roms that is going to make the phone slower, or is made for a faster phone (assuming ICS would be out of the question for me)
should I just stick with my current rom and wipe everything? I didn't have any complaints with it.
or are there better ones out now that wont compromise performance.
also another important thing for me is audio quality and saw many recommendations for voodoo sound. I don't have a kernal that supports it. I am running 2.6.32.9 jaeyoon.yoon
so pretty much what is the best rom and kernal combination for me that has no bugs, everything will run nice and snappy on. I don't want to experiment around anymore. I will straight up run the most recommended one.
many thanks in advance
I was in the same boat as you. I loaded Bionix back in February of last year and hadn't touched my phone's ROM since. For some reason I decided to see if there was anything new and sure enough ICS ROMs were available.
I love being on the cutting edge but my phone has to work too. I travel a lot and when I'm on the road I need to be able to depend on the phone working reliably. Looking at the ROMs available I went with the one with the most forum activity - that was ICS Passion. I flashed it first and was immediately impressed. Most everything works with the exception of the speakerphone which, while it does work, it seems like it picks up a lot of background noise.
Since then I've tried a few others but based on reliability and some UI preferences I went back to Passion. There are several battery mods which is nice, I like the Newborn3 battery style myself.
The other thing I've experimented with is the Kernel. I settled on the Glitch kernel because it seems the fastest to me and has no problem with the lock screen. It has Voodoo stuff which I honestly don't use much. The kernel does have issues creating a Nandoid backup but I never use those either ;-)
After using ICS I will not go back. In fact even the newer phones such as the SGS2 hold no attraction for me until there is a good ICS ROM available.
Hope that helps.
First off thank you bigjoe87865 for posting your question as I was in a similar situation. I previously had Axura and it was way too buggy and slugish. I finally had it the other night and started researching posts on the best rom and saw your question.
Second, atatistcheff, you installed ICS Passion and eventually you put the Glitch kernel. What was the reasoning in going about in installing this kernel and not using what was supplied with ICS passion? Would I enjoy my phone with just using ICS?
Was in the same boat as you until this week - long time Froyo user (Trigger and Bi-winning) for the past year. The GB roms always seemed to be too much trouble and not very practical.
After seeing all the positive feedback on the ICS ROMs, I figured I'd give it a shot and installed ICS Passion this week. Was immediately impressed with the speed, stability and functionality. Only problem I has was the battery life - it was simply awful. Saw posts regarding the battery life of SlimICS and flashed it on Friday. Works just as well as Passion, with the battery life I'm used from my Froyo ROMs. My single complaint is that the stock kernel doesn't support Voodoo sound, but I can do without that for the time being.
Long answer short: there's pretty much no reason to avoid ICS at this point - I'm a very light GPS user, so this is not a priority for me.
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Second, atatistcheff, you installed ICS Passion and eventually you put the Glitch kernel. What was the reasoning in going about in installing this kernel and not using what was supplied with ICS passion? Would I enjoy my phone with just using ICS?
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Passion always had a nagging issue with the lock screen for me. That is every few times when I pressed the power button to wake the phone up it would not respond. I'd have to press several times to get it to wake up. I've seen this issue posted about several times. It's really not serious and as with most issues YMMV. I think you'd be fine with Passion and the stock kernel. I like Glitch because the lock screen issue is non-existant and it seems to work fine with Passion.
You guys want a good ICS rom, flash ICZenwich 1.4, you'll thank me later
For those that want a very good froyo rom then I would go with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441976
It is based off the bionix with the fisherman mod It is Rock Solid
Howdy yall,
First I want to thank all the hard working people making all these crazy ROMs. This place has been a fantastic resource as I started messing around with my Note.
My first smartphone was the TELUS Samsung Galaxy SIIX (SGH-989D). Like the Note, it was given a beautiful SAMOLED and dual core 1.5 snapdragon. My SIIX shipped with Gingerbread 2.3.5, which I never bothered to upgrade. It ran GB beautifully, hardly a stutter to be found anywhere. When I damaged it a bit, I decided to upgrade to the Note instead of fixing/replacing the SIIX. When I got the SIIX I thought it was massive (4.5"). When I got the Note, hooooooly, it seemed comically large and made the SIIX look like a baby.
Having said that, I've finally gotten used to the Note's size and realized how awesome it is. I was expecting an experience similar to the SIIX. I was sorely disappointed as the Note felt much, MUCH laggier. The Note shipped with Gingerbread 2.3.6. When I heard of the ICS upgrade, I figured I'd give that a chance instead of changing to the S3.
I tried one of the basic ICS ROMs from here. While certain aspects appeared to be significantly smoother, other areas weren't and I wasn't really impressed. I then tried the FJ ROM which was pretty cool, but still wasn't really what I was hoping for. I then tried the Electron ROM which wasn't too bad. I had heard (good things) of Paranoid Android. When I tried that, I was at first confused because I could not get Google Play or anything. I finally read enough to realize I had to flash the gapps myself, which was fine. However, I could not get the camera to work properly in that one which was a deal breaker (it was the unofficial ROM though).
I tried "The Collective - AoCP - CP1", and it was by far the most impressive. Everything seemed so much snappier, sslauncher was really cool too. For some reason, regardless of the ROM, apex launcher just lags too much to be acceptable for a 1.5GHz device IMO.
I tried flashing one of the overclock kernels, and I thought I had bricked the Note. It would stay stuck at "SAMSUNG" when booting up. I was still able to get into CWM, but all the previously working ROMs would fail despite wiping everything multiple times. I finally found a stock ROM in TAR format and flashed it using Odin, which got me up and running again. However I'm still not able to flash other ROMs for some reason, I wonder if I've permanently messed something up.
For some reason I was never able to get the official ICS update to work through the OTA process. I managed to find a proper stock TELUS 4.0.4 ROM and flash that via Odin, but still I'm left somewhat puzzled. I don't have the ICS Camera or the ICS Gallery! My SMS looks like it did in Gingerbread, not like any of the ICS ROMs I played with. Phone dialer and Contacts list look the same, though I'm not sure the stock ICS update made many changes to those.
I feel that ICS (let alone JB) has a lot of promise, I'm just trying to find the best setup. I would like to have a nice ROM that has none of the bloat (official TELUS ROM is 500+MB where some perfectly featured ROMs are 100MB+). However, I DON'T want to sacrifice critical functionality or stability. Is this wishful thinking?
Sorry if this was long winded, but any comments or input would be awesome. I've been having a blast, the Note is one sweet smartphone...errr... phablet?
Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
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Root it and flash rom htc totally failed with multitasking
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Are there launchers that are more successfull than others for this phone? Apex? Nova?
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Supposedly it is but i dont think it has been fully addressed as devs are still making work arounds for it on thw new ota so my guess is yet another fail for htc
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Clear wallet settings before flashing just to be sure if you're worried about that.
Unlock and root your phone, follow the 1.15 flashing instructions and get cm10, it will feel like a new phone. Well worth any risk (which IMO is low following instructions).
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I think something might be wrong with your phone. We've taken a dive into these phones the last couple of weeks. I got an EVO Lte first. It came with the newest update. So I rooted, but no s-off, of course. Running stock ROM. Runs great. No complaints, except the multi-tasking, of course. No lags, though.
MIL decided to move into a smartphone and got the same phone a few days ago, with my help. Left it completely stock and worked on it extensively loading apps, configuring it, etc. I notice zero difference between the phones. Same performance, no lag on either one, etc.
P.S. Wife picked up an S3 on Saturday. I'm in charge of setting it up, too. I expected to be realy wowwed by it. But after a couple of days of playing with it, I think I like the Evo better. I like both phones, but I think I made the right choice for me. It would be nice if HTC was as developer friendly as Samsung, though.
Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
Sometimes after just flashing a new ROM its a good idea to factory reset first, it gets tested for the device intended and released for others but an image is basically a snapshot of the ROM and everything in it, when you factory restore a new ROM, you really start fresh
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Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
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I hope you have better luck than I did. The lag came back. So far, minus the last few things that aren't working properly, CM10 is the way to go. It's like a whole new phone. No Lag, smooth as butter, no more waiting for Sense to load, just a much better all around experience. Thanks to Toast and Deck, incredible work!
Still running like a champ... I think the phone was just confused with activation, setup and the evil AirRave that hates all my phones... Factory reset seems to have worked. Trying to hold off on root/rom for now...