Hi, I haven't been an xda user in a while , I used to love tinkering around with my phones all day long.
now, I life has been taking over and I don't have the time to try out new stuff all day long.
that being said, the last rom I tried was a team whiskey bionix v1.3.1 sometime in early 2011 . I don't even think I wiped anything since.
I want a new rom, I feel like my phone is getting sluggish. I don't want to try roms that is going to make the phone slower, or is made for a faster phone (assuming ICS would be out of the question for me)
should I just stick with my current rom and wipe everything? I didn't have any complaints with it.
or are there better ones out now that wont compromise performance.
also another important thing for me is audio quality and saw many recommendations for voodoo sound. I don't have a kernal that supports it. I am running 2.6.32.9 jaeyoon.yoon
so pretty much what is the best rom and kernal combination for me that has no bugs, everything will run nice and snappy on. I don't want to experiment around anymore. I will straight up run the most recommended one.
many thanks in advance
I was in the same boat as you. I loaded Bionix back in February of last year and hadn't touched my phone's ROM since. For some reason I decided to see if there was anything new and sure enough ICS ROMs were available.
I love being on the cutting edge but my phone has to work too. I travel a lot and when I'm on the road I need to be able to depend on the phone working reliably. Looking at the ROMs available I went with the one with the most forum activity - that was ICS Passion. I flashed it first and was immediately impressed. Most everything works with the exception of the speakerphone which, while it does work, it seems like it picks up a lot of background noise.
Since then I've tried a few others but based on reliability and some UI preferences I went back to Passion. There are several battery mods which is nice, I like the Newborn3 battery style myself.
The other thing I've experimented with is the Kernel. I settled on the Glitch kernel because it seems the fastest to me and has no problem with the lock screen. It has Voodoo stuff which I honestly don't use much. The kernel does have issues creating a Nandoid backup but I never use those either ;-)
After using ICS I will not go back. In fact even the newer phones such as the SGS2 hold no attraction for me until there is a good ICS ROM available.
Hope that helps.
First off thank you bigjoe87865 for posting your question as I was in a similar situation. I previously had Axura and it was way too buggy and slugish. I finally had it the other night and started researching posts on the best rom and saw your question.
Second, atatistcheff, you installed ICS Passion and eventually you put the Glitch kernel. What was the reasoning in going about in installing this kernel and not using what was supplied with ICS passion? Would I enjoy my phone with just using ICS?
Was in the same boat as you until this week - long time Froyo user (Trigger and Bi-winning) for the past year. The GB roms always seemed to be too much trouble and not very practical.
After seeing all the positive feedback on the ICS ROMs, I figured I'd give it a shot and installed ICS Passion this week. Was immediately impressed with the speed, stability and functionality. Only problem I has was the battery life - it was simply awful. Saw posts regarding the battery life of SlimICS and flashed it on Friday. Works just as well as Passion, with the battery life I'm used from my Froyo ROMs. My single complaint is that the stock kernel doesn't support Voodoo sound, but I can do without that for the time being.
Long answer short: there's pretty much no reason to avoid ICS at this point - I'm a very light GPS user, so this is not a priority for me.
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Second, atatistcheff, you installed ICS Passion and eventually you put the Glitch kernel. What was the reasoning in going about in installing this kernel and not using what was supplied with ICS passion? Would I enjoy my phone with just using ICS?
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Passion always had a nagging issue with the lock screen for me. That is every few times when I pressed the power button to wake the phone up it would not respond. I'd have to press several times to get it to wake up. I've seen this issue posted about several times. It's really not serious and as with most issues YMMV. I think you'd be fine with Passion and the stock kernel. I like Glitch because the lock screen issue is non-existant and it seems to work fine with Passion.
You guys want a good ICS rom, flash ICZenwich 1.4, you'll thank me later
For those that want a very good froyo rom then I would go with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441976
It is based off the bionix with the fisherman mod It is Rock Solid
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What do you guys think is better???
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What do you guys think is better???
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I have tried both releases. If I had to speculate, I think Obsidian is based off of an early kernel\build from Eugene. It felt VERY rushed to me and I LOVE all of Bionix roms but had this one removed in about 45 minutes. I feel Macnut R10 is outstanding.
Same as above user posted. It was slow, and wasn't themed as the other roms. And I think it was rushed too because sombionix wanted to be in the froyo race.
I went with none. I am on AOSPish 2.2 and it's great! Lots better than Obcidian.
Eugene is not going to be doing any further R releases for macnut. He got his hands on the ODIN 2.2 from a T-Mo friend and stated this in his thread. I would flash his 2.2 he obtained, or BETTER YET, wait till he makes some tweaks to it. He is lightning fast, so it should not be too long now.
I imagine bionix and crew will use this as a base too?
Without focusing on the quality of the ROMs themselves, my take on this is that Eugene does not approach his ROMs as "software projects". That is, once you start using his ROMs, he is very good at updating them; but he adds stuff, or removes stuff, and then maybe later puts stuff back with no apparent rhyme or reason. While this may be fine for a lot of people, for me it's kind of odd. It would be great if he incrementally worked on and released ROM's with clear change logs and a good software development life cycle. I realize this is a lot to ask, especially since he has indicated many times that he creates ROM's for himself, and not really for other people. So he changes and does whatever he feels like without really having an overall plan, so to speak.
Bionix on the other hand is very methodical and very good at documenting what is going on. So as a community driver I much prefer Team Whiskey because they are more concerned about how to keep people informed on what they are doing, keeping change logs, and being methodical. This is a big plus and is hard for me to ignore.
All the above being said, the best ROM for me is the ROM that can manage to make battery life on the phone last as long as possible. The battery life has been my major issue with the Vibrant since I got it, and so far Eugene seems to be the best at making the battery last longer. At least that has been my experience with several of his ROMs.
So, in the end, I am stuck between two ROM developers. If Bionix were to develop a good ROM with good battery life, then I would stick with them for sure.
I hope this helps, and please know this is not a flame towards anyone. Both developers are incredibly generous with their time and efforts and I would never look a gift horse in the mouth.
Cheers.
AOSPish. Seemed like the simplest option, deliciously vanilla-ish, and seems to be working great thus far.
If we ever get into the Cyanogen game I'd be likely to go back to him. His ROMs were always tasty on my G1 N1 etc.
Yes, the battery life for me is very important. I have used Bionix roms before and i liked it a lot. Time to try something new. The reason i am afraid to try Eugene's rom is because he has lag fix enabled on his rom. I had bad experience disabling lag fixes before and ended up with bricked phone.
I had problem with both on my bell gt i9000m
Firsti had to flash back ugjh2 modem to get bell network to connect for both on obsidian my phone just crash every time I plug usb cable and on macnut volume button crash my phone turning off the phone won't end up I need to remove the battery and aux does not work sound still go out from phone speaker
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Hello all,
I was just wondering what your impressions were re, the most stable ROM out now, the one with the least issues. Is there one that seems to be most hassle-free? I'm not nessasarily looking for a lot of bells and whistles...
Thanks!
Used to enjoy Theory's ROMs but felt that every few weeks he'd discontinue a ROM and release a new one. If you want a sense ROM that has a good following, I'm gonna be taking a look at SynergyROM, or if you want a non-sense ROM (AKA AOSP) I'd go CM7 (CynergyMod 7).
I'm aosp fan personally. I've used Cyanogenmod extensively, as well as Omgb. I'm currently running TheROM V4 and it is rock solid stable and very responsive. Not many bells and whistles. Just vanilla gingerbread.
It depends on what you want aosp or sense
For me I'm an aosp girl I'm running cyanogenmod 7 v1.7 loving it and. Ill give the kernel I'm using for battery life
If I don't want aosp anymore I always go to. http://teambamf.net/
I love das bamf! or if not go to http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-Developer-Forum I personal really like chingy's roms
I don't like Droid theory just saying
If you like sense, I really like Chingy's Gingeritis 3D.
Second vote for Gingeritis 3D. Stable and great battery life if you just use better governors.
Definitely the wrong forum, bro.
been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
ShiftS3ns3 by DroidTho3ry rocks - give it a shot.
I think I'm going to give Gingeritis 3D a try. I'm not a pro at flashing new ROMs... i've only done it once (running BAMF 1.3 now). Is there anything special I should do? Is it just like flashing the BAMF ROM? (can I do it from ROM Manager?)
Thanks!
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been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
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DT mentioned that he's taking a break, so hopefully he won't be gone too long. His work is better than stock.. HTC ought to hire him and get out of his way.
If you want Sense ROM, can't go wrong with SkyRaider Preview 2 or ShiftS3NS3.
If you want AOSP based ROM, SHIFTAO5P hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
If you can live without the 3d, skyraider preview 2 is rock solid.
courtesy of my bolt and tapatalk
FWIW, I have been pretty pleased with the Synergy ROMs and I'd be running one now but...... I was one who fell victim to either the ROM Manager update or the CWM update and now cannot restore any of my backups. I tried various earlier CWMs w/o success and finally un-rooted, installed stock, did the OTA update and I'm back 100% stock.
I mention this because it's relevent to the question..... Battery life is good, the stability is excellent and, once customized to my liking, I really can't see much difference other than the "billions and billions" of crap apps VZW and HTC have added to the phone. If I could get rid of them I'd be just fine with the stock ROM believe it or not!
I'll probably re-root at some point and it's VERY likely I'll go back to the Synergy ROM because it works. I've had rebooting problems with other ROMs I've tried and I'm no longer in a mood to experiment, maybe later?
OK, it's later. I rooted, using Revolutionary, used Titanium backup to remove VZWs crapware and then figured why not? and installed the latest Synergy ROM.
I guess I just can't live with a non-rooted phone for 24 hours..... <sigh>
i keep trying out different roms all the time(sense & aosp based) and find that i'll keep going back to Synergy. it seems the most stable just i having issues with settling with just one rom.
Everyone has a different opinion on what stable is. I think CM7 is plenty stable, but there are those that disagree for whatever logical/illogical reason. Mainly, if you aren't prepared to encounter issues either brought up by your own experimenting or those of the ROM developer, I would stay with what the phone came with and be happy you have a phone that (sort of) works
If you are more brave, then read on.
If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM. ROMs are generally bleeding edge and users accept the fact they may have bugs in exchange for the phone doing more than what HTC and verizon allowed them to do. However, ignore most comments, because those are generally just people that screwed something up either knowingly or unknowingly. Like people that go the the hospital (for those that have family members that work at one), not everyone is ready to admit they did something stupid and have it on public display
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If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM.
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Skyraider with Ziggy's kernel is EXACTLY this. It has average to good battery life though. Everything works, including it being compatible with call recording and incredicontrol (voltage control app). It also has the notification tweaks that no one has quite duplicated and I have grown to love.
I find Synergy to be an excellent rom as well, but the themes available do not suit me at all. It does support everything with good battery life and also adds HTC Hub which is awesome. It also has DConfig, which I just have not gotten a great benefit from but I guess some might.
The theory sense rom was smooth as silk, and seemed to be a happy medium between the first two I posted.
Chingy's rom is VERY slick, but very vanilla. The fact that it is Odexed makes theming harder I think, but for me that means I cannot replace the HTC browser with the AOSP one, and I HATE THE SENSE BROWSER lol.
ALL AOSP roms seem to have squashed most of the crappy battery issues and get great battery life now. This added to a FAR FAR FAR better bluetooth stack for better use with wireless devices like Jawbone, AND compatability with PS3 hardware make them an awesome choice. The ONLY problem is the lack of reliable network location. This means google maps works perfect, but your web browser can and will put you across the world sometimes, as well as weather apps etc. This rules it out for me for now.
Hope that helps
Shifts3ns3 has been the best for me, while I liked synergy, it had more bugs and seemed much slower to me, shift has the useful 3.0 features without the slowdown of a full sense 3.0 rom
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Maybe I'm the only one on the forums but considering I've searched and not found any threads so far, thought I'd post a thread to get some opinions from others who may have possibly not posted so far.
I've moved from stock to rooting my device, flashing the kernel (both with siyah and entropy) in addition to flashing custom roms ([ROM] (2.3.6) UCKJ4 "LeakedStockV4"/BraviaEngine/ICS-Transitions/BLN(12/07)) and ([ROM] UnNamed v1.3.2 - (12/9/2011)) and my experience has been so far that the stock rom has produce a more fluid natural experience than these roms.
of course I HAVE wipded data and cache from the phone (not internal_sd and external_sd) but stock rom has been the best experience for me.
If I am right, please chime in, if I am wrong, please guide what I need to do first, in order to fix it. I'm a few clicks away from going off root - of course I haven't recorded my experience but I guess it's my word against anything else at this point.
Unnamed is much smoother to me than the other roms. I'm a flash maniac and I've stuck with it. I'm very pleased.
You need to give it a day or so to build the cache up. It'll be slow for a day or two. Give it some time.
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You need to give it a day or so to build the cache up. It'll be slow for a day or two. Give it some time.
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I'm new to this, but that's the first time I've heard that. Thanks for the heads-up. I'm currently running the UnNamed ROM and I don't think I've experienced anything odd, other than SetCPU causing some weird things to happen, even when running the "optimized" settings (making the lock button take screen shots as opposed to locking the phone). I've since uninstalled it. But I'd never heard that about letting the cache build up. You really do learn something new everyday.
UnNamed is like butter. I keep trying other ROMs...and keep coming back to UnNamed.
Simple answer
UnNamed is the way to go. If your phone dosent like it, its because it's defective.
+1 for UnNamed
Flashed between a few ROMs, back to UnNamed. It's just THAT amazing.
You can always flash a theme on top if you want a different look.
I've been a MIUI fan for a while now, tried almost everything else, always come back to MIUI. To each their own.
i also have to say unnamed is one of the greatest rom. its so smooth and fast.
im currently running task650's icsd out v5 and its pretty fast too.
Shoman's stock V5 is the greatest rom
I was on serendipity 8.2 for a while and have been on unnamed for a while now. They are the same to me. Speed smoothness and battery life seem the same. Both great
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Was on UnNamed for a bit and now on Shoman's stock V5.
Both have felt the same to me.
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I've been a MIUI fan for a while now, tried almost everything else, always come back to MIUI. To each their own.
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The Galnet MIUI is what I switch to if I do get the itch to use another ROM. Like it too.
Pretty much almost anything but straight stock is going to be better.
All the bloatware services running in the stock ROM are going to potentially lag it out.
Im not sure what's wrong with your phones but the only ROM I experienced lag on is CM7. Stock, UnNamed, MIUI.. the list goes on. they were all smooth. CM was the only one that was not.
Personal preference: UnNamed
I am finally getting around to getting my phone in shape, and I'm looking into the various custom ROMs. There are so many choices, and from where I'm at even trying to interpret the feature list of a single one is overwhelming!! I'm *incredibly* overwhelmed, and have no idea where to start...
So I was wondering - can anyone either direct me to a thread / page on Atrix ROM Comparisons & Reviews, or be so kind as to share there opinions here? Thanks!
- Andy
EDIT: To be clear, I'm not asking which ROM is "the best," as I know that's purely subjective. I'm more looking for feature comparisons - what's the same across different roms, what's different between them, what different roms excel in and wat they slack in, etc.
Just check out the features sectiom of each rom though making a thread like that might be helpful. I am now contemplating making one
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I have a feeling most people will agree with me when I say the two best ROMs are The Darkside (moto-blur based) by nottach and Neutrino (cm7 based) by notorious544d. So take a look at those two specifically. As far as features go for most ROMs they're almost the same when comparing moto-blur to another blur based ROM. Same for cm7, although many of them have different performance. Happy flashing
Honestly was going to flash darkside, but instead went with Neutrino GT, and damn..I fell in love with my atrix all over again! I absolutely love the fingerprint scanner that acts as a trackball mod..among everything else.
I love the fact he completely stripped the rom down...too much actually that he added add-ons, but you can pick and choose which ones. Very slick.
I spent quite a few hours last night learning about each of the different ROMs and what was worth checking out. In the end, I ended up coming to the same conclusion: that the two I should check out off the back were Neutrino and DarkSide.
However, I'm also thinking of Ba2tF CM7. I understand that Neutrino is also based off of CM7, but has a lot stripped out of it. I don't think I want stripped down. I'm looking for things that are featurefull, and that matters to me over performance - to explore functionality.
However, at the same time I see that while Neutrino is stripped down CM7, it does have features that Ba2tF doesn't have - like the MIUI camera and the trackball scroll...
You can try CM7 weekly#3 or #4 by atrix dev team. It does have FP scanner support. You can try add the other features you like by yourself if you're handy..
I often use youtube vids to get an idea of a rom to at least get an initial reaction. Personally I like to start with a practical rom, ie battery life, first and get more exotic from there once I get an idea of my needs. In my own experience, darkside had just... Incredibly impressive battery life and acceptable everything else. I'm running ba2tf right now, my first cm7 rom ever, and the performance even without OC is great. Smooth, fast and these cm7 tweaks are fun to play with. I can't mount my external sd card in my car, get browser fc's on the regular but they are niggles for me really. Battery for me, while not absurdly good like Darkside, is still solid. No worries if i forget to plug it in overnight and work the next day.
Having said all that, tomorrow is nerd day and i'm flashing neutrino.
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What is it that's drawing you to try out Neutrino? What does it have over Ba2tF, aside from the MIUI Camera? Is it more that performance & battery life is enhanced by cutting down bloat - or is there something more interesting than that?
I ask because I'm on Neutrino and the lack of various normally default software is bugging me quite a bit. Navigation for instance is broken because the TTS engine doesn't come with it by default, and isn't yet available in a stable package from what I can tell...
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I spent quite a few hours last night learning about each of the different ROMs and what was worth checking out. In the end, I ended up coming to the same conclusion: that the two I should check out off the back were Neutrino and DarkSide.
However, I'm also thinking of Ba2tF CM7. I understand that Neutrino is also based off of CM7, but has a lot stripped out of it. I don't think I want stripped down. I'm looking for things that are featurefull, and that matters to me over performance - to explore functionality.
However, at the same time I see that while Neutrino is stripped down CM7, it does have features that Ba2tF doesn't have - like the MIUI camera and the trackball scroll...
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however, i think it was genius to start out stripped, then add whatever add-ons YOU want. Kind of personalizes your ROM a bit, since you cant satisfy everyone.
I meant to post this to the Q&A's section, I mistakenly posted to general. My apologies. Can this be moved to Q&A's?
So currently I'm running Bionix-V Fishmans froyo for the Vibrant, and I like it pretty well. Battery life seems to be alright.
Before that I was running Asgard 3.2, and it was pretty good except the battery would drain pretty quick, and the Phone would FC constantly.. forum is dead though and no support.
Was reading up on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021383
((Rom)Simply Honey 5.1 Revolution(JVR GB 2.3.4) JW1 HoneyCream in 3rd post. 12/30) and that sounds like it would be a pretty nice rom to try out, but all the links are dead. Does anyone have a current link or be willing to upload the latest version of that rom and the addons?
Or could someone possibly point me to a good Gingerbread rom for vibrant that is stable, I've been looking around for a couple of days and it seems maybe there is no more interest in Gingerbread for Vibrant.. maybe it's dead.
I've contemplated trying out some ICS builds, but it seems like there could be a lot of headaches, and the encryption unsuccessful bug, and other bugs that could make it more of a bad idea to try.
So, if anyone wants to help me, that would be fantastic!
I skipped over Gingerbread and went straight to ICS (before falling back to Froyo), so I can't really attest to any of these personally but people rave about MIUI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123922
You could also try Phiremod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592509
or maybe Malice, but it's wasn't updated to 2.3.7: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21759-rommalice-5gb-234deficient-development/
I think with ICS out and getting more and more stable you might have some trouble finding people keeping GB ROMs going. ICS builds are really is close to a point of being a daily driver (I'm a big fan of Slim and ICZen) if you're ok with the GPS being flakey. I wasn't so I'm back on Froyo for a little while, but those GB ROMs I listed claim to have a functioning GPS so give them a whirl.
I still hear horror stories about the "Encryption Unsuccessful " super hard bricking. When a JTAG cant bring it back to life you know its as bad as it could get.
ICS is smooth but until that issue is resolved completely I'm staying on Froyo or GB.
--Also GPS can work on GB ROMs but you are forced to use only the Bullet kernel.
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--Also GPS can work on GB ROMs but you are forced to use only the Bullet kernel.
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Interesting. I kinda missed a lot of the quirks in getting Gingerbread just right, so that's a good tidbit about the Bullet kernel. Thanks for the heads up.
GPS working isn't really a big issue for me, but finding fairly stable roms (GB) with working links is a chore. I could have lived with Asgard, but the FC issues were a big negative. Also, when I would go to an area of poor-to-no coverage, I would have to restart the phone a couple of times because I would get a please insert SIM message.
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Prime is very stable, and probably my favorite Rom hands down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343944&highlight=prime
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I still hear horror stories about the "Encryption Unsuccessful " super hard bricking. When a JTAG cant bring it back to life you know its as bad as it could get.
ICS is smooth but until that issue is resolved completely I'm staying on Froyo or GB.
--Also GPS can work on GB ROMs but you are forced to use only the Bullet kernel.
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GPS doesn't work for you period on any Gingerbread ROM but with the Bullet kernel?