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Was getting between 5-8 mbps past week on 4 different local servers now today I am getting 15-20 mbps on those same servers has anyone else noticed this or is this just a fluke for me tonight?
Were the tests done at the same time-of-day, and none in the weekends?
Speed tests over the Internet add its variability into the mix. You should limit the test to your LAN only. A simple big-file-copy test should suffice.
Time-of-day may still matter, depending on your wireless environment's density. If it's crowded, a 9PM test would have lower performance than, say, a 3AM test.
no but ill check that now
it's odd but it seems like the more I use my prime the faster it gets in general... maybe I am getting used to it. Opera browser+ Go keyboard with tablet plug in in 10" tablet format is ftw
I've had the opposite experience with speed test results. After the update yesterday, I'm getting a puny 3mbps when I usually averaged 20+ on a 35+ network.
distance is key
People keep just mentioning speeds but not their location in respect to the router.
In the same room as router I get 20 mbps. Next room over 1 wall I drop down to 5 mbps.
In my bedroom 2 walls I drop to about 3mbps. Meanwhile my HTC tbolt is getting 12 mbps.
Is this kind of quick dropoff common for other users
I get .5 to 2.5 mbps on my prime my gnex gets ~10 and so does my dads iPad on our wifi. I got one of the bad units
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I get .5 to 2.5 mbps on my prime my gnex gets ~10 and so does my dads iPad on our wifi. I got one of the bad units
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There was speculation among some of the Prime reviews that router brand matters.
In fact I think one of them made of a chart with speedtests from the same location and different routers.
time of day, location or distance from router, router brand, and network settings will all affect download and upload speeds. too many variables in the mix.
I tried doing a speedtest test yesterday, and the first time got a 5mbs DL and 1mbs UL. I then did the test on my phone and it said 18mbs DL and 5bms UL. So I was like wtf until I noticed that the app chose 2 different servers. I changed it up to the closest to me and what a difference. I hit 25mbs DL and 5mbs UL on my TP and I got 22mbs DL and 5mbs Ul on my phone. I am still rocking the .29 update since I can't update to the .33 just yet.
My Wifi speeds got quite a bit faster from the .33 update.
Before the update speedtest.net app showed around 15-20Mbit/s now it's up to 25-30Mbit/s.
My internet connection has a constant speed of 32Mbit/s which is working all day no matter what time. Upload speeds are always 1Mbit/s which is the maximum of my line.
So I got a perfectly working Touchscreen and faster Wifi with this update --> perfectly happy now!
Edit: location was both times the same ofc.
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People keep just mentioning speeds but not their location in respect to the router.
In the same room as router I get 20 mbps. Next room over 1 wall I drop down to 5 mbps.
In my bedroom 2 walls I drop to about 3mbps. Meanwhile my HTC tbolt is getting 12 mbps.
Is this kind of quick dropoff common for other users
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Yes, this is exactly what I'm suffering from as well.
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I get .5 to 2.5 mbps on my prime my gnex gets ~10 and so does my dads iPad on our wifi. I got one of the bad units
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I'm pretty sure they're all "bad" units. People who claim they have no wifi problems just aren't comparing the speed to other devices at decent distances from the router. Rather, I suspect they're basing their conclusions on the fact that browsing is fine.
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For any other WiFi device I use on my network, I can use the results from SpeedTest as a true estimate of the actual speeds that device can achieve, but I don't feel that way about the Prime.
While my SpeedTest results are in the 3 Mbps range for the Prime, I have no problem HD recording from Netflix, Veetle, Youtube or VLC.
Can anyone suggest another method for testing speeds on the Prime?
Best speed on my prime was on lower odd-numbered channels 3,5,8. But I'm on a 3-4 year old linksys router running dd-wrt.
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There was speculation among some of the Prime reviews that router brand matters.
In fact I think one of them made of a chart with speedtests from the same location and different routers.
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Maybe, though I tried both my Actiontec FIOS Wireless N router
and my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless G router
and both results were bad
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There was speculation among some of the Prime reviews that router brand matters.
In fact I think one of them made of a chart with speedtests from the same location and different routers.
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We have the apple router. The extra game files for gta took 5 minutes to download on my phone, it took 45 minutes on my prime. Web browsing if fine, but downloading any data or streaming is almost impossible
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I'm pretty sure they're all "bad" units. People who claim they have no wifi problems just aren't comparing the speed to other devices at decent distances from the router. Rather, I suspect they're basing their conclusions on the fact that browsing is fine.
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not neccessarily. as i said before I tested Prime against my ipad1 and Atrix4g phone and Prime consistently pulled faster speeds regardless of distance and signal strength shown. did the same with atrix4g. and Prime using wifi analyzer. Prime was right on par with signal strength of phone. the Prime is just more sensitive to changes. but once again, it never affected its speeds. you have me, Diamondback2010 and a lot more showing great wifi download and upload speeds. maybe those who are experiencing issues need to check their router settings or something. Because to say everyone has bad wifi is incorrect. especially since 12/22 my prime has been connected to my wireless network nonstop. never dropped a connection or had issues with speed dropping off no matter where I was or how far from router.
edit: just did a quick speedtest.net test on Comcast network on Netgesr router
Download: 25mb
upload: 4mb
ping: 16ms
that's pretty damn good in my book n I've pulled even higher speeds on Prime b4
For those of you noticing poor WiFi range and wondering whether you have a defective Prime from the much talked about early defective batch (like me), I suggest you read this article:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues
The reviewer in the article had both a defective Prime and a non-defective, replacement Prime, and compared the WiFi between the two.
Basically, the defective Prime had a cap of about 2 Mbps at any location. That is, even right near the router, the defective Prime wouldn't pull more than 2 Mbps, and was averaging about 0.5 Mbps in speed tests.
The non-defective replacement Prime the reviewer later got fixed this 2 Mbps cap problem, but still didn't have great speeds when moved away from the router. For example, the non-defective Prime the reviewer had got about 10-16 Mbps, while the original Transformer got about 34-37 Mbps at the same location.
So for those of you considering returning or RMA'ing your Prime because you get big speed drop-offs when moving away from the router, I strongly suggest you reconsider, since it seems this is a limitation/design flaw in all Primes. Stated simply, if you're not capped at a ridiculously low speed while at any location, your Prime is not defective.
I want to say bye, bye to TW internet, but don't know the best way to make My Razr 4G LTE internet to all PC's,Ps3 and my Xbox 360.
I put it here becouse the Razr forms are small vs this one and Is more about LTE any way.
Thanks
Not really
It's not really the solution you wanted, but assuming you are not trying to tether the world to your cell phone (which should then double nicely as a heater), why not just get a mobile hotspot and be done with it.
I hate my TWC wires (2 cables spanning 2 neighbors yards) and have pulled twice the speed on my Rezound than I am getting from TWC (although not at home, regrettably). I say this because I understand your frustration first hand; I just disagree with your proposed resolution.
looked into this a bit, my conclusion was that:
1) unless you have a fairly small network (ie just yourself), you're going to need to go the route of the mobile hotspot.
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2) the mobile hotspot hardware currently available isn't reliable enough to trust as a dedicated home internet solution.
Don't be fooled I use mine for everything and I pay for unlimited mobile hotspot. Just can't use everything at onces.
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I wouldnt recommend using your phone or any wireless solution for gaming, the ping is too high.
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I wouldnt recommend using your phone or any wireless solution for gaming, the ping is too high.
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I get only maybe 20-30ms higher on my phone tether vs my FiOS.
If you are dead set on doing this, I would use your PC/Laptop as a network bridge. You should be able to connect the LAN cable to your PC and then into where your modem would plug into your router. But, you would have to setup your router first, or connect it via USB to setup since you wouldn't be able to use the provider software or the IP to connect in through that port. Just an idea, but like others said, reliability could probably be zero.
Let me tell you the "reliability" of my TW cable internet right now: It gos form 7-10DL to 3 and then even to under 1, 2-4 times A DAY. It go's out at times too, so I can't see it geting more bad then that.
P.S I am "dead set" on having home internet that has good up time and able to play 1080p video if needed.
Time Warner doesn't offer a package higher than 10mbps? Why not just get Fios or something? Have you even called TW? I had an issue like this a few years back (With a provider in GA I can't remember the name) where I wasn't getting the 25mbps I was paying for. They came out and tested my modem and it was dying. They replaced it, and it worked from then on out. It was even a modem I paid for myself, they gave me a new one and took the old one free of charge.
Koush posted that Tether is in the Android Market now.
I pay for 15DL and 1UL, But am only geting 6-10DL and .5UL. I think it's BS, but I can't poof that to them. I Have used all kinds of speed test and they all never hit more than 11-12DL and 1UL. LTE has been about the same on DL at home after the outges and DEC the 25th. ( It was geting 10-15DL and now its 4-10DL and 5-6UL.)
Now I am a bit mad at the big red, becuase on AT&T my speeds have been going up and Up and up. (I think AT&T Is about toput up LTE here soon)
LTE is extremelt cool, and will only get better. But as of right now, I wouldn't call it reliable enough to handle an entire house full of bandwidth-hungry devices.
My At&T U-Verse internet advertises up to 25mBps. This, to the average user, probably sounds like more than one would ever need. But what they don't tell you is that each TV (when its box is on) takes up to 6mBps of that bandwidth all by itself. So if you've got 2 HDTVs running in the house, and somebody gaming online, suddenly that internet speed ain't lookin' all that cutting-edge.
According to what I've gleaned from the small amount of research I've done, you need a solid 10mBps to stream 1080p HD content without bottlenecking. The top AT&T U-verse package I have can do it all day long, while also handling whatever else may be using bandwidth. I would worry about any plan below the top one though. Maybe if you only have one HDTV connection in the house.
I tried tethering off my phone when temp-root v2 came out, and I was impressed with the results. But I was also realistic about it. My tether speed tests came in at roughly 6-7mBps downloaded. Not bad in a pinch, but certainly nowhere near good enough to power a whole house. And certainly not good enough to stream HD.
I don't think the idea of a phone providing internet for the home far off, but we just aren't there yet. I'm thinking in 5-10 years.
If you want to use your phone as your home internet service, pm me. I've been using mine for my home for the last 4 years, cuz I don't have dsl. It's awesome, and I can help you get it up and running. I've averaged 40-50gb per month for the past 3 years. PM me.
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I used 30Gb and I saw my speed in my home go down, but at work it would be fast as ever with 5 bars. My billing just started to day and my DL is now in the 20+ vs 5-7 DL before. I think I got my speeds lowered for useing 30gb. Any way TW sucks even more with that.
I don't have a solution, but I think I know what a pretty big contributing factor is towards some people saying WiFi is on par with other devices, and others saying it is not.
I've seen this mentioned in another WiFi thread by another user, but hasn't really gotten much attention, so I figured it deserved its own thread so people see it.
It appears that for some reason, the Prime does not like wireless N networks unless it is extremely close to the router. For example, when using wireless N, my Prime will pull over 30 Mbps when within 5 feet of my router. However, as soon as I start walking away, the Prime drops in speed at an embarrassingly bad rate. It goes from about 30 Mbps down to 3 Mbps down at about 20 feet away from my router. My other devices (Galaxy Nexus, iPad1, laptop) do not exhibit this behavior.
However, if you're using a wireless G network instead, the dropoff isn't nearly as significant. For example, when using wireless G, I'll pull about 19 Mbps when directly near the router, and still get about 9-13 Mbps when 20 feet away from the router, which is somewhat on par with my other devices.
My conclusions:
1) The Prime does not work well with wireless N networks
2) People who see speeds consistent with their other devices when not near their routers likely do not have a wireless N router (or have wireless N disabled).
Does anyone have any opinion on whether this may be software related?
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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Have you tried switching to G only mode to see if the Prime performs better? I know it may not be a permanent or acceptable solution, but that's what I'm doing for the time being, as I live in a relatively small apartment and don't need the increased range of wireless N.
The fact that the Prime can pull decent speeds at a decent range while on wireless G only has me hopeful that it is not hardware related, and can indeed be fixed (e.g., improved) with firmware.
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Have you tried switching to G only mode to see if the Prime performs better? I know it may not be a permanent or acceptable solution, but that's what I'm doing for the time being, as I live in a relatively small apartment and don't need the increased range of wireless N.
The fact that the Prime can pull decent speeds at a decent range while on wireless G only has me hopeful that it is not hardware related, and can indeed be fixed (e.g., improved) with firmware.
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I only have N here, all other devices work good apart from the Prime.
I tried using WiFi Analyzer to see which channel was best being 11 as my router was set to auto but that made no difference on the Prime.
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ToneyEricsson said:
I only have N here, all other devices work good apart from the Prime.
I tried using WiFi Analyzer to see which channel was best being 11 as my router was set to auto but that made no difference on the Prime.
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If you want to try it out, most, if not all N routers allow you to disable N and only transmit on a, b, or g. That's what I did on my N router. I changed transmission from 802.11a/b/g/n to 802.11g only.
I concur that all other devices work great on N except for the Prime, which is annoying.
I have AT&T Uverse and there wireless router is b/g only. I get download speeds of 12mbps in my plan. I was getting 11.3 to 11.5 on my OG IPad and my TFP oh and my motorola Atrix at any place in my house or my decks. Same ranges. My router is in the middle of my home so I'm probably no more than 50-75 feet from it.
So, I feel there could be credibility to what the OP says based on my setup.
Thanks a lot for this post. My router is only G and B but I decided to test this myself so I changed my router from Mixed to G-only and it increased my speeds by over 3MB/s (5MB/s to 8.1MB/s) when downstairs in my living room. I thought my previous tests were strange when it would sometimes spike up to 8MB/s but finish on 5MB/s everytime.
Anyway, very useful post which could help many on here. Maybe this could be fixed in a firmware update or do you reckon the Wi-Fi recievers in the Prime are designed that way?
My Wirless N router works fine with the Prime at both short and long distances.
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My Wirless N router works fine with the Prime at both short and long distances.
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I agree mine work fine also, i have a cape cod style house and my N router is in my basement I get 2 bars of strength in the "attic" part of my house, running about 12-13mps. Even when i run Wifi Analyzer on both my Galaxy Nexus and my Prime they are both very much the same DB.
I've got to say I think the Wi-Fi issues are software, not hardware. Using Wi-Fi analyzer, with my thunderbolt and prime in same location they have the same signal strength, but the thunderbolt is much faster downloading. I don't think the back is the problem with the prime WiFi, and they should be able to fix it with a firmware update.
Someone else also suggested that you can get better/higher wifi speeds with a lower channel. People have tried switching to channels 1 and 3. Maybe while trying ONLY 802.11g, try also using N at lower channels.
Lower channels = lower frequency = higher energy, which may be better able to get through the aluminum back and improve speeds?
nyijedi said:
I don't have a solution, but I think I know what a pretty big contributing factor is towards some people saying WiFi is on par with other devices, and others saying it is not.
I've seen this mentioned in another WiFi thread by another user, but hasn't really gotten much attention, so I figured it deserved its own thread so people see it.
It appears that for some reason, the Prime does not like wireless N networks unless it is extremely close to the router. For example, when using wireless N, my Prime will pull over 30 Mbps when within 5 feet of my router. However, as soon as I start walking away, the Prime drops in speed at an embarrassingly bad rate. It goes from about 30 Mbps down to 3 Mbps down at about 20 feet away from my router. My other devices (Galaxy Nexus, iPad1, laptop) do not exhibit this behavior.
However, if you're using a wireless G network instead, the dropoff isn't nearly as significant. For example, when using wireless G, I'll pull about 19 Mbps when directly near the router, and still get about 9-13 Mbps when 20 feet away from the router, which is somewhat on par with my other devices.
My conclusions:
1) The Prime does not work well with wireless N networks
2) People who see speeds consistent with their other devices when not near their routers likely do not have a wireless N router (or have wireless N disabled).
Does anyone have any opinion on whether this may be software related?
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1. What channel are you using on the N band? Also, what router and firmware?
As for testing at this point I am pulling 36Mbps on N at 15 feet and 34Mbps on G (on a Netgear WNDR4500 or ASUS RT-N56U). We will look into this behavior shortly.
Many wifi problems stem from suboptimal router configuration. Mixed-mode use (as opposed to G-only or N-only) can also cause speed degradation.
Suggest some simple steps to troubleshoot slow wifi speed:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30664-5-ways-to-fix-slow-80211n-speed
Alternately, you can try a different router or access point, either as replacement or in tandem with the existing unit.
Great idea making this thread as I was going to make similar one but never got around to after fiasco in other thread..lmfao.
There was this guy that posted he was going to return his Prime because his wifi wasn't acting right and he was slow downloads speeds and big dropoffs n such. I told him the exact same things you posted here. Be came back n thanked me n said That did the trick. Now his wifi is working great and is on par with his other devices. So now he is keeping his Prime.
Ill bet you that majority of people experiencing wifi issues are because of the reasons stated in this post. A simple network settings change can can make a night n day difference in wireless performance.
This thread should be stickied also or merged with other one then stickied. This will help alot of people out having wifi issues. And its such a simple n fast fix also.
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Someone else also suggested that you can get better/higher wifi speeds with a lower channel. People have tried switching to channels 1 and 3. Maybe while trying ONLY 802.11g, try also using N at lower channels.
Lower channels = lower frequency = higher energy, which may be better able to get through the aluminum back and improve speeds?
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this was said to be true also. I saw that thread that had same info in it.
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1. What channel are you using on the N band? Also, what router and firmware?
As for testing at this point I am pulling 36Mbps on N at 15 feet and 34Mbps on G (on a Netgear WNDR4500 or ASUS RT-N56U). We will look into this behavior shortly.
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Gary,
Thank you very much for looking into this. I ran some additional tests so I could supply you with some (hopefully) helpful information.
The following tests were performed all using channel 1 on my router. Note that I do see faster speeds on my Prime on channel 1 with both G and N transmissions. The router is a D-Link DIR-655 with firmware version 1.35NA.
The WiFi version of my Prime is V6.1.1.17.
To get accurate speed results, I transferred a large file locally from my PC to my Prime and my Galaxy Nexus. I let each transfer go for a few minutes and noted the highest speed. Below are my results:
Wireless N Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 28.1 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 29.84 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 20.48 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 6.68 Mbps
Wireless G Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 17.8 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 22.04 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 14.4 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 10.32 Mbps
Two important things I noticed from these tests:
1) The Prime actually downloads faster than my Galaxy Nexus when right next to the router, but consistently downloads slower when further from the router.
2) Although the Prime drops off more than my Nexus at a distance of 25 feet from the router, it is at least in the same ballpark when the router is set to G only. However, when the router is set to N only, as you can see from the results, it's not even close.
Again, thank you very much for looking into this for all of us.
I have a b and g router. changed it to g-only and tried changing the channel from 11 to 1 and 3. None of it helped. I use a Netgear WGT624 v3 router with firmware V2.0.10_1.0.1NA
I get a single strength reading between 3 and 4 bars mostly when sitting next to the router but when stepping away it drops to the 1 dot signal strength or none at all. I don't understand what happened in my case because up until yesterday I was getting excellent wi-fi performance no matter where I was in my house. I had my Prime for a week and it was working perfectly. Then yesterday the wi-fi strength just died out. I have requested a refund from Office Depot's website for it but I would love to be able to cancel the refund request and keep the Prime if I felt sure that this issue could get resolved. Office Depot will be picking my tablet up on the 19th. I'll keep an eye on the forums between now and then to see if anything changes or any other ideas pop up for things to try on my end.
Actually did some tests myself today, comparing between the TF101, TF201 and the SGS2... All tests are done with wifi-analyzer and speedtest.
Linksys E2000 router, wifi g-only at channel 1
Close to router (bout 2.5m):
SGS2: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF101: ~-40dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF201: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mpbs
Farther away, same room still (bout 8.5m)
SGS2: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF101: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF201: ~-50dBm, ~13.5mpbs
Kitchen (bout 11, wall and closes in between)
SGS2: ~-70dBm, ~7.5mbps
TF101: ~-65dBm, ~10mbps
TF201: ~-67dBm, ~5mpbs
Other room (about 6m, 2 walls in between)
SGS2: ~-65dBm, ~6mbps
TF101: ~-65dBm, ~10mbps
TF201: ~-70dBm, ~7mpbs
The signal is not that different actually, but speeds can be... THe problem is that within a number of runs in speedtest the changes can be pretty huge. Ranging from 2mbps to 10 mbps... No clue if it's my connection itself (got a 20mbit connection) or the router.
Also have another wifi router so might give that one a try too later...
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Gary,
Thank you very much for looking into this. I ran some additional tests so I could supply you with some (hopefully) helpful information.
The following tests were performed all using channel 1 on my router. Note that I do see faster speeds on my Prime on channel 1 with both G and N transmissions. The router is a D-Link DIR-655 with firmware version 1.35NA.
The WiFi version of my Prime is V6.1.1.17.
To get accurate speed results, I transferred a large file locally from my PC to my Prime and my Galaxy Nexus. I let each transfer go for a few minutes and noted the highest speed. Below are my results:
Wireless N Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 28.1 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 29.84 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 20.48 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 6.68 Mbps
Wireless G Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 17.8 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 22.04 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 14.4 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 10.32 Mbps
Two important things I noticed from these tests:
1) The Prime actually downloads faster than my Galaxy Nexus when right next to the router, but consistently downloads slower when further from the router.
2) Although the Prime drops off more than my Nexus at a distance of 25 feet from the router, it is at least in the same ballpark when the router is set to G only. However, when the router is set to N only, as you can see from the results, it's not even close.
Again, thank you very much for looking into this for all of us.
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This is almost exactly the behavior i see. In my case it is even a little more extreme, as i actually get occasional wifi crashes (the wifi icon on the prime disappears, then reappears and reconnects after a few seconds) with my router set to GN or N only. Sitting next to the router, speeds on N only are very erratic, ranging from 6-12 Mbps. On G-only, i get a solid 10-12 Mbps.
Overall i find the speeds to be extremely slow. my other devices (G only Droid X included) have no problem handily besting the download speeds at any range.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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part of the issue is, we don't know which chip the azurewave has for wifi.
Because the OS has drivers for both the 4330 and the 4329 installed in system.
check your etc for driver confs.
I one of the few userr who don't have any problems. wireless n does,'t work will on 2.4 even my laptop has pronlem trying to get n speeds they is why i went to 5 mhz to get full n speeds
So what is consider as weak wifi?!.
I've recently got my prime and have been testing the wifi of the prime to my sg2 and vibrant...
Standing next to my router i get about -45dBm while my sg2 gets like -33dBm. The dl speed is also slightly faster on the sg2. Then when i compared the signal to my vibrant....my vibrant gets about -45 to -50dBm.
So just curious is that normal? Or weak? Or any other opinions...
Thanks
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Don't feed into all that weak wifi hype. If you even have to ask then that means your device is performing fine. OR YOU won't even notice anything unless someone tells you its bad n starts making you think that.
Base it off of performance, not what Tom, ****, n Jane tell you..lol
Try running the same test on the same devices but move farther away and test each result. the "common" problem is the rate at which the wifi looses strength is roughly around 20'. But this is all based on individual results i have read. Others claim there are no issues or problems. To each their own.
My question for you is, When and where was yours purchased from? Im curious if the newer purchases are as common to show issues.
For me it's pretty simple to prove.
From family rooms and bedrooms I can get 16Mbps.
From kitchen and dining room I get 2Mbps, while the iPad right beside pulls in 16Mbps still.
I used wifi analyzer to find what channel was best in G band than configured my router to it and my prime pulls the same or better numbers than my SGII, daughters iphone4s and wifes Kindle fire. All devices have better speedtest results since I switched to channel 1 on G band I wish I would have known this along time ago because places that I previously had weak or no wifi now have a strong signal.The configuring router thing has been posted hundreds of times on this forum
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For me it's pretty simple to prove.
From family rooms and bedrooms I can get 16Mbps.
From kitchen and dining room I get 2Mbps, while the iPad right beside pulls in 16Mbps still.
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My experience is pretty similar. Near the router, all devices get a pretty fast download speed, above 11 Mbps using Speedtest. Farther away, at about 20-25 feet, Prime slows to 10% of that, while the other devices are still up near 11 Mbps.
Don't go looking for problems. If it is running fine for you and seems fast why try to get technical about whether it is weak or not.
I brought mines recently on the 21st of Jan.
For mines wifi seems okay when compare with other devices when there is no/few obstacles...ie i get the same speed but different signal strength when Im on the lobby of my neighbors(1 house away) while my router is on the 3rd floor.
But when Im in the lobby within my building my prime gets very weak signal and often disconnect while my sg2 remain connected with 2-3 bars and about 4-5mb dl
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Agreed. But Im just worry if it will work within campus since i only brought it for skool. And bb only gives 14 day return window...
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I havent noticed weak wifi with mine as well. To be honest, I'm actually seen the exact same performance with my Galaxy Nexus and Ipad 2.
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I havent noticed weak wifi with mine as well. To be honest, I'm actually seen the exact same performance with my Galaxy Nexus and Ipad 2.
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Maybe you are checking WiFi close to the router? Most folks that report WiFi problems (including me) report that near the router is fine, but that 20 feet or more away, the Prime's download speed is WAY less than other devices. (my Prime is about 10% of other devices at distance.)
Yep, standing right beside the router I can get 30Mbps. This is in the basement. I live in a large bungalow. Standing right above the router on the first floor I can get about 18Mbps and then it drops from there and very quickly. In the dining room, which is main floor but about 30-40 linear ft distance from the router, the speed drops to 2Mbps.
I asked Skygunner why he though that 9 separate Primes had WiFI issues and if he thought that the common link MIGHT be his E4200 Cisco/Linksys Router.
Since he had already abandoned the Prime, selling his FREE Prime and Keyboard that Asus sent him, I guess we will never know, but his last comment to me was "There is NO WAY that this is about the E4200. ALL my other devices work with it perfectly. Okay. Fair enough, but 9 Primes, ALL failing to get decent WiFi indicates otherwise. There is just no way that those numbers make any sense whatsoever.
Here is something that may explain it. Interesting, in any case. This article came out on Decrypted Tech's Site, here are two key paragraphs. Link follows:
"Although we are not 100% certain of the issue it does seem to be more about compatibility than an actual hardware or software problem. We took a look at the issue and it seems that the largest percentage of problems appear to be with Linksys wireless routers. This is not to say that there is an issue with Linksys, but it is more of a compatibility issue with the wireless controller and the way they implement their wireless handshake. We tested our TF101 with TRENDNet, D-LINK and also with a TP-Link Access point without any issues at all.
Unfortunately Linksys is a much more common brand due to pricing (and the Cisco logo) than the other three in the US so you are more likely to see this and have it reported. Most owners will also not think that their router (that works with everything else) could be the potential source (or part) of the problem."
Link:
http://www.decryptedtech.com/index....they-are-not-replacing-the-tegra-3&Itemid=138
I too have an E4200 v1, but haven't had any real Wi-Fi issues with either my wife's 32gb or my 64gb. I have an Asus n66u on order so will see if that makes a difference.
Very interesting to say the least. Good find. Will check out the link soon also
Ive used 3 different Primes on multiple different routers (Dlink, Linksys, Netgear all different model #s) the only consistant in everything is that every single Prime hits its WiFi deadspot range sooner then any other WiFi device I own (Laptops (2), cell phone, and a Galaxy 10.1 tablet) this all leads me to with 99% certainty that the biggest problem with the Primes WiFi is simply the aluminum backing not a magic handshake.......Basically the range on the Prime would not work outside in the McDonalds parking lot but if I moved 10 ft closer just outside it would for example we are talking 5-15 maybe 20ft difference in range difference with the Prime in most scenarios.
Lol, can't be a problem with an E4200.
I actually bought one of those (a V1 model) to fix my Prime's weak wifi as it has the best 2.5ghz support you can buy. It boosted my speeds in all areas but it didn't increase the range.
Linksys routers are fine, it's their firmware that stinks. Flash the DD-WRT firmware.
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Linksys routers are fine, it's their firmware that stinks. Flash the DD-WRT firmware.
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You've got that right. For something with the Cisco name on it, their software and support sucks far worse than another company that we know and love.
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Ive used 3 different Primes on multiple different routers (Dlink, Linksys, Netgear all different model #s) the only consistant in everything is that every single Prime hits its WiFi deadspot range sooner then any other WiFi device I own (Laptops (2), cell phone, and a Galaxy 10.1 tablet) this all leads me to with 99% certainty that the biggest problem with the Primes WiFi is simply the aluminum backing not a magic handshake.......
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Then how come my Prime with the exact same aluminum backing has perfectly fine wifi performance? Can't be the backing.
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Then how come my Prime with the exact same aluminum backing has perfectly fine wifi performance? Can't be the backing.
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Because you dont know how to test the wifi deadspot range or you didnt bother to test it. The WiFi in most scenarios will work just fine for most people doesnt mean the range doesnt fall off before other WiFi devices.
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Lol, can't be a problem with an E4200.
I actually bought one of those (a V1 model) to fix my Prime's weak wifi as it has the best 2.5ghz support you can buy. It boosted my speeds in all areas but it didn't increase the range.
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Wrong. The N66U and the 4200v2 blow the V1 away.
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Because you dont know how to test the wifi deadspot range or you didnt bother to test it. The WiFi in most scenarios will work just fine for most people doesnt mean the range doesnt fall off before other WiFi devices.
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haha, nice try.
I tested it fine. Nothing wrong with the aluminium backing.
I've got a Linksys Access Point WAP610N in the doorway between my office and bedroom because reception of the extender often falls away, the extender is one wooden floor down and two foot thick walls away from my rooms.
My notebook and Blackberry have no problem connecting to the AP, my internet radio has problems connecting but once it's connected it's good, my Kindle refuses to connect and my first Prime (waiting for the replacement) rather connected to the extender than the AP, occasionally it did connect but mostly it connected to the far away extender without any problems.
The most annoying thing is that with the latest firmware the AP keeps resetting itself to channel 11 (the busiest channel) every couple of days I have to change it back to channel 4 which is the one with the least interference/other networks on it. I'm now trying to find out what a good replacement AP is but that's harder than I thought.
I've got a Linksys WRT610N router under my desk at work - having just bought my new Prime into work for the first time, it refuses to see it at all.
Disabling 'mixed mode' (802.11B/G/N) for 2.4GHz and setting it down to just B/G and now the prime sees the network and has full strength. Looks like the Prime has issues with Linksys and mixed mode networks - it works fine at home on my mixed mode airport extreme.
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Then how come my Prime with the exact same aluminum backing has perfectly fine wifi performance? Can't be the backing.
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Apparently, you have one of the magic one out of one-hundred primes, that performs as advertised, with the exception of GPS, of course !
I asked Skygunner why he though that 9 separate Primes had WiFI issues and if he thought that the common link MIGHT be his E4200 Cisco/Linksys Router.
Since he had already abandoned the Prime, selling his FREE Prime and Keyboard that Asus sent him
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How do I get Asus to send me a FREE Prime and Keyboard that I can sell?
Yeah lets blame it.on everything except the real problem....
Shotty design and poor quality control. Myself and 3 of.my friends all bought primes around Xmas. Wifi sucked on EVERY single one no matter what make, model of access.point was used. Tested.on netgear, dd-wrt firmware routers, REAL Cisco WAPs, trend net ,zyxel, Linksys, and others.
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Apparently, you have one of the magic one out of one-hundred primes, that performs as advertised, with the exception of GPS, of course !
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Yup, most Primes don't work, need to be lucky to have the magic ones.
Putting it in laymans terms that everyone can understand.....THATS 100% BULL****!
I have an E4200 V1 and it works just fine. My prime works with it, my TF101 worked with it, all other wireless devices work with it. I do know it went through a firmware update but thats about it. I can connect to it with anything but the prime out in the street and get 450Mbps on my N devices.
Bottom line is the prime wifi is flawed regardless of what the reason is. Whether the aluminium back is all of it is anyones guess but its not rocket science that aluminum WILLL attenuate RF signals. My prime works fine at home where I have the E4200 and it pretty much saturates all 3500sqft. It did not work period at a hotel I recently stayed at where my laptop and crackberry had about half signal the prime didnt detect it at all.
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I've got a Linksys WRT610N router under my desk at work - having just bought my new Prime into work for the first time, it refuses to see it at all.
Disabling 'mixed mode' (802.11B/G/N) for 2.4GHz and setting it down to just B/G and now the prime sees the network and has full strength. Looks like the Prime has issues with Linksys and mixed mode networks - it works fine at home on my mixed mode airport extreme.
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How strange. I use the same family of routers in my house and my brother's house, on Mixed (DD-WRT firmware though) and have no issues what-so-ever. After several tests, I actually found that Mixed gives me the most reliable distance and through-put as well, so long as I keep the channels low.
I use a WRT620N (with some D-Link as the Primary, required by our alarm set-up) at my house and WRT610N + WRT150N at my brother's.
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How strange. I use the same family of routers in my house and my brother's house, on Mixed (DD-WRT firmware though) and have no issues what-so-ever. After several tests, I actually found that Mixed gives me the most reliable distance and through-put as well, so long as I keep the channels low.
I use a WRT620N (with some D-Link as the Primary, required by our alarm set-up) at my house and WRT610N + WRT150N at my brother's.
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This is running the stock linksys firmware - technically it's the company's router so I've not got around to installing DD-WRT on it yet...