We can hear that Samsung will launch ICS for S2 on 1st of march.
But until today each leak from Samsung ICS does not have bluetooth SIM Access Profile (rSAP) .
I tested each leaked version from the first XXKP8 to the last XXLPB but none of them has SAP support built in.
Does Samsung stop supporting this bluetooth feature?
Officialy Samsung supports it (cf: Samsung S2 specs choose table view/Conectovity/Bluetooth profiles) and all the stock rom under GingerBread that I tested are SAP compliant. But if they stop the S2 under ICS will be unusable with the premium car phone system.
For those who don't know what is SAP/rSAP I wrote a small explanation:
It is different than the bluetooth hands free service wich is an audio gateway. With hands free profile all the communications, securities and radios are done via the server (S2).
The rSAP client (car phone) is a real GSM phone (most of them can host a real SIM) so all the communications are done via the rSAP client and the radio is turned off on the server (galaxy s2) obviously because the SIM card can only be connected to one phone. The main advantage is to use a 8W GSM radio with an external antenna. Also you can spend many hours in communication without draining your smartphone battery. The main disadvantage is because the smartphone radio is off you cannot use GSM/3G services on your phone (but you are driving!).
rSAP car phones are commons in European cars.
All Nokia's and Sony-Ericson's phones with bluetooth support rSAP. Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 with 2.x.x stock ROM are supporting rSAP...
The main problem is: Google does not support rSAP and we cannot add it!
Why because even if Android is full open source, drivers from samsung are not. Modem.bin is also not opensource.
In fact for adding rSAP to AOSP (android open source project) Google must add 3 trivial functions to the RIL (radio interface layer) specifications:
taking the ownership of the sim card (obviously control the connection to the phone services)
writing APDU raw messages.
reading raw APDU messages from the SIM card
If Google decide to do that the RIL library wich is a Samsung closed source calling the closed source modem functions will have this 3 functions and next we can develop an opensource rSAP support.
Samsung did not develop their own opensource rSAP support they use Nokia's Meego implementation wich is opensource.
With Ice Cream Sandwich I hope Samsung does not stop to support rSAP...
Also I hope Google will add AOSP rSAP support wich is needing 1 day of programming. If Google does that we can have rSAP on all Android phones...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I cannot imagine (or hope) that Samsung stops the SAP support.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Moving to Q&A
lufc said:
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Moving to Q&A
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is not a "real" question since it is not an "howto do something" it is a question about the futur specs of SII under ICS
I´ve just upgraded my GSII to ICS 4.0.3 (XEO) and unfortunatelly I can confirm that rsap is not supported
Edit: with app rSAP from market you can fully use your mobile in car works great
Finally Samsung stops rSAP support
Now I'm quite sure they stop the rSAP support.
I tried all the Galaxy S2 ICS roms and none have rSAP support. I've also tested the Galaxy Note ICS leaked rom and there is also no rSAP support.
I cannot understand Samsung behavior. They premium phones that cannot be connected to premium phone car kit.
Even my basic Samsung B2100 has rSAP support.
Since I went back to GingerBread hudra78 could you send me libsec-ril.so for analysing ?
Thanks
I reported this to Samsung. That is their answer:
Thanks for reporting this, we'll take a look at it and if we manage to find something, we'll let you know about a workaround.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now rSAP support got added to LineageOS, look here.
Related
Hello!
Proud owner of a NFC GS2, which seems fitted with PN55 + SIM Card Security, I'm going around and around on forums to look for NFC implementations.
From what i've understood, NFC is currently working on the Nexus S with an Android 2.3.6 or 2.3.7.
I've got a 2.3.5 GS2, NFC enabled with NXP App and various NFC reader/writers working, but Maps NFC and other stuff like FIle Expert NFC File Sharing (P2P or whatever) is missing.
I've seen a test with a CM ROM named Kang-something, but it's reported not working.
Any developer insight about framework, of if this is just about apps, or whatever?
TYVM!
My own answer seems to go towards the SGH I777 phone, that is a I9100P too.
There seems to be an unclear separation between the I9100 and the I9100P in this thread.
SO COOL!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20643472#post20643472
NFC Enabler for all roms!
Thanks fonzi09!!
Is there any way to get traditional video calling in our xperia phones(like galaxy s)...?
Nope, Android doesn't have support for it, so it isn't possible yet.
Only possibility is via an app, that both sides need to have.
But Galaxy S has the videocall, so why it's so impossible to have the umts videocall in android?
Maybe there was some app used to make video call?
Mate, we are talking of native umts videocalling, not ip one like gtalk or skype...
will porting the dialer and telephony provider app from galaxy s would make it possible...?
vasiulla said:
will porting the dialer and telephony provider app from galaxy s would make it possible...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure, but it will require specific modules and drivers also to use the front camera.
what a shame! the issue was opened in android in 2010 but yet not fixed..
only samsung managed to add this feature to their fone which is natively supported by all 3g supporting front cam feature fones..
and strangely no developer has yet ported it from samsung
Does anyone know if the mirrorlink technology in the S3 is a software only thing added to the phone or is there a hardware component (besides the MirrorLink head unit).
Im hoping Software only so that it can be added to other phones like the Galaxy Nexus. Anyone have any idea how MirrorLink works on the S3?
There is no special hardware requirement but just ripping the APK and putting it on another phone won't work either:
The operating system needs to be modified to enable VNC etc.
So, it won't be so easy to enable it in another phone I'm afraid.
Well that is a bummer! But thanks for letting me know. Do you think someone will be able to tweak MirrorLink on the S3 to allow full control of the device instead of specific apps like there is now?
This maybe possible.
Although it doesn't necessarily mean that they will be displayed.
The headunit (Mirrorlink client) has the final word on which applications will be allowed.
olluz said:
This maybe possible.
Although it doesn't necessarily mean that they will be displayed.
The headunit (Mirrorlink client) has the final word on which applications will be allowed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay thanks...all I want to be able to do is see and control my android phone from a bigger touchscreen. Different options out there- I was hoping MirrorLink would be the answer.
Hi Guys just asking for a bit of an update - i was looking at upgrading my head unit to the Alpine ICS x-8 which also supports mirror link - there is a demo out on youtube which shows it working with the Galaxy S2! Do you guys think this would work with the S3? HAs anyone had any experience of this combo?
You will need a lot of software stack working together in your phone firmware.
USB 2.0 is the only hardware requirement which is almost available to most recent smartphone.
I am waiting for HTC phone which includes this mirrorlink support.
---------- Post added at 07:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:44 AM ----------
chinlin0924 said:
You will need a lot of software stack working together in your phone firmware.
USB 2.0 is the only hardware requirement which is almost available to most recent smartphone.
I am waiting for HTC phone which includes this mirrorlink support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is what I saw about the HTC mirrorlink-like (not sure if it is mirrorlink standard).
This is a demo in Luxgen Sedan 5 (a car designed & made by a Taiwan company).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stc1K5gQL6U
Dose anyone know is there a way to make S3 natively support ANT+? I know S3 has the hardware to support ANT+. It requires only software side to make S3 compatible with ANT+. Android 4.3 or above has ANT+ support. However after I installed Omega AOKP 11 with android 4.3 ROM and ANT+ plugin and radio service on Google play I still couldn't connect to my ANT+ heart rate monitor which I can connect using my Note 3. If anyone knows how to make S3 to support ANT+ sensor natively without using any dongle please shed some light, thanks.
Rick
Sent from my SM-N900 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
wawago said:
Dose anyone know is there a way to make S3 natively support ANT+? I know S3 has the hardware to support ANT+. It requires only software side to make S3 compatible with ANT+. Android 4.3 or above has ANT+ support. However after I installed Omega AOKP 11 with android 4.3 ROM and ANT+ plugin and radio service on Google play I still couldn't connect to my ANT+ heart rate monitor which I can connect using my Note 3. If anyone knows how to make S3 to support ANT+ sensor natively without using any dongle please shed some light, thanks.
Rick
Sent from my SM-N900 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Theoretically yes, the source code is on GitHub, but you'll probably need some binaries according to the readme.
https://github.com/ant-wireless
OneCanuck said:
Theoretically yes, the source code is on GitHub, but you'll probably need some binaries according to the readme.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If someone could create a custom ROM that was just the official build plus ANT+ support, I think there would be quite a lot of grateful takers, myself included... Very frustrated by Samsung's omission on this - I've come here as a n00b looking for whether such a ROM exists already, but no luck yet!
Any progresso on this?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Hi,
I've got a S3 LTE. Today a made the 4.3 Update OTA.
In many blogs and boards is told about the S3 ANT+ support in this Firmware.
So i've installed the ANT service and ANT plugins, but it don't work.
The demo app told me to install the USB driver for the extern dongle, cause the Hardware is not capable to use ANT.
Is there a driver update from ANT neccessary, or what could be the problem?
StompSC
Yes, the info about ANT+ being supported on the i9300 (non-LTE S3) was incorrect. I assume it's the same for the S3 LTE.
If the update had included ANT+, the ANT+ radio service would already be installed. You are able to download these fron Google Play to enable you to use a usb dongle.
I believe they haven't included an ANT+ driver, which is why you can't use the hardware that is included in the phone. It's the same situation that we had previously with BTLE (hardware there, but no driver), but they included the driver in the 4.3 update for that, so BTLE now works.
See this page for more info:
(Argh can't post url as I'm a new user. Google "dcrainmaker ANT+ s3" (without the quotes), it should be the first hit.)
StompSC said:
Hi,
I've got a S3 LTE. Today a made the 4.3 Update OTA.
In many blogs and boards is told about the S3 ANT+ support in this Firmware.
So i've installed the ANT service and ANT plugins, but it don't work.
The demo app told me to install the USB driver for the extern dongle, cause the Hardware is not capable to use ANT.
Is there a driver update from ANT neccessary, or what could be the problem?
StompSC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
****!
That was the biggest point I was waiting for...
Somebody know something abaout ant+and s3?
I'waiting but don't find nothig
S3 and ANT+, what's the latest update?
Can any developers look into this problem and maybe create a xposed module or plug in to enable the ant+ feature, I'm willing to help test if needed
Any solution?
Hi all,
fairly new to posting in these forums bit been a regular visitor for a long time.
I've looking into ways of sharing an internet connection with others. A repeater would do the job but I also need to log into a website in order to get internet access, this is why th Android solution is the best option.
Using FQRouter2 is the only option on the Play Store that can fullfill this requirement however using the repeater function of the app seem to be limited to having compatible hardware.
google.com/store/apps/details?id=fq.router2
My aim is to get a list of compatible devices to help others that need to achieve the same objective.
So far none of the handset I have (mainly Samsung GT series) have got the repeater function working. If you have got this working could you post the model of your Android device and the firmware version it's running.
Thank you.
It doesn't work for:
Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505
Kitkat 4.4.2
KOT49H.I9505XXUGNJ8
Here it the link to go https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fq.router2
I have been trying to get this working on a rooted Sero 7 Pro and I have been unsuccessful. I think it would be safe to assume that it can be added to the not compatible list.
Can anyone assist with trying to find the most affordable tablet that can support this functionality?
2 phones repeter works on
two phones that works as wifi repeter are #1 lgms323 android ver 4.4.2 from metropcs and #2 is ZTE n9120 android ver 4.0.4 from metropcs.....
can you tell me where i can find out why the lg will not connect to fqrouter
ps of course both phones are rooted
cookertron said:
Hi all,
fairly new to posting in these forums bit been a regular visitor for a long time.
I've looking into ways of sharing an internet connection with others. A repeater would do the job but I also need to log into a website in order to get internet access, this is why th Android solution is the best option.
Using FQRouter2 is the only option on the Play Store that can fullfill this requirement however using the repeater function of the app seem to be limited to having compatible hardware.
google.com/store/apps/details?id=fq.router2
My aim is to get a list of compatible devices to help others that need to achieve the same objective.
So far none of the handset I have (mainly Samsung GT series) have got the repeater function working. If you have got this working could you post the model of your Android device and the firmware version it's running.
Thank you.
It doesn't work for:
Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505
Kitkat 4.4.2
KOT49H.I9505XXUGNJ8
Click to expand...
Click to collapse