Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
servergod said:
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
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I would also like to take this moment to point out that if you have an "alpha 2" or "beta 1" of CM7 on your Nook, it's probably NOT a leaked version of the release that Celtic, Gonce and Indirect have in testing right now. It's almost guaranteed to be a modified version of the initial alpha, which means it would still have the bugs that could temporarily brick your Nook Tablet or possibly new ones that could brick the device permanently.
Don't go looking for these ROMs, they're fakes and could be very dangerous.
Hi,
could you link us to the kernel source on github? I'd like a source to at least pull from for initial BFS testing, and since it was released the source should be publicly available.
Thanks in advance!
Mike_IronFist said:
I would also like to take this moment to point out that if you have an "alpha 2" or "beta 1" of CM7 on your Nook, it's probably NOT a leaked version of the release that Celtic, Gonce and Indirect have in testing right now. It's almost guaranteed to be a modified version of the initial alpha, which means it would still have the bugs that could temporarily brick your Nook Tablet or possibly new ones that could brick the device permanently.
Don't go looking for these ROMs, they're fakes and could be very dangerous.
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Thanks Mike,
It's even tighter than that actually the current version hasn't been given to anybody outside Team-B so that’s Goncezilla and Myself. We decided that during our re-development of it we would keep it to ourselves until it was ready for testing. So only the 2 developers have a current version at this very moment in time. Not even the team, of testers have a copy yet.
So like Mike said, if you've received a version that says it's a new one IT'S NOT it's probably a copy of the very first original (and only) public release that we pulled that may or may not have been altered in some way. It's still going to have all the bugs so it's still going to cause problems for the user. I really do suggest people just wait that little bit longer. It will be worth your wait
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admiralspark said:
Hi,
could you link us to the kernel source on github? I'd like a source to at least pull from for initial BFS testing, and since it was released the source should be publicly available.
Thanks in advance!
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The source of the original release was made available. Everything has been pulled again now though because obviously it didn't work and was unsafe. Once we make a final public release the source will be posted up too
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servergod said:
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
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Lol, nice little rant there, too much to drink before bed ? lol
servergod said:
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
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The only cranky person as far as I can tell is you.
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
What is your point?
servergod said:
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
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Do people make threads and posts like this solely on the hope that others will thank them (i.e. to increase their "Thanks" count). I don't get why people thank others for making statements that aren't helpful and are geared at...nothing?
pepi4 said:
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
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hahaha now i'm cranky
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downsay said:
Do people make threads and posts like this solely on the hope that others will thank them (i.e. to increase their "Thanks" count). I don't get why people thank others for making statements that aren't helpful and are geared at...nothing?
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its a VERY good thing that this thread is in the GENERAL forum then, where things can be posted just because, and talked about, just because. where they don't really have to be helpful or insightful but amusing and entertaining or your reply complaining about unhelpful threads would be entirely inappropriate.
pepi4 said:
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
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Good luck with that lol!
Ours didn't work great initially do had to be pulled before it did any further harm to peoples property. Alpha or not we didn't want it damaging peoples NT's,
That’s why the newest version will be getting tested by professionals first, that way if there a major buck that bricks their tablets they'll be able to unbrick and fix the problem!
LIES
pepi4 said:
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
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i haven't heard that much bull**** since the 9th grade.
424aca said:
i haven't heard that much bull**** since the 9th grade.
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NAW man, i aint mad, i just find it funny how you lie like that. Cuz honestly, unless you have no life...
that is not possible. but you must
be mad
cuz on your original BS post,
it said...
Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky.
(if you are cranky, just do the herb) >bob marley style
Haha, no, jokes aside, i mean just the kernel amd not the aosp source. See....the gplv2 states that once the kernel is released, even if binaries are pulled again, the source code must be made available to the public for the duration.
NOT trying to start a fight, i just want to have a patched bfs kernel ready for launch.
My advice for those who can't wait patiently for a tested cm7 rom should throw their NT on the ground, jump up and down on it multiple times, hit with baseball bat, and then walk away. At that point go to your local nook distributor and buy a nook color and load cm7 or cm9, then maybe you would be happy. But, in reality, some people would still find something to complain about. It will be here soon enough, until then read a book or play angry birds, just quit asking for something that you are not going to get and let the devs do their work in peace....
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My advice for those who can't wait patiently for a tested cm7 rom should throw their NT on the ground, jump up and down on it multiple times, hit with baseball bat, and then walk away. At that point go to your local nook distributor and buy a nook color and load cm7 or cm9, then maybe you would be happy. But, in reality, some people would still find something to complain about. It will be here soon enough, until then read a book or play angry birds, just quit asking for something that you are not going to get and let the devs do their work in peace....
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Don't do that, I'll buy it for $2.46 USD.
admiralspark said:
Haha, no, jokes aside, i mean just the kernel amd not the aosp source. See....the gplv2 states that once the kernel is released, even if binaries are pulled again, the source code must be made available to the public for the duration.
NOT trying to start a fight, i just want to have a patched bfs kernel ready for launch.
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How about you step down until we have a properly functioning kernel and you can patch it right before we release or something? You really don't need the kernel without rom to be honest.
Yes I'm a noob, and proud of it. I have been around long enough to install the first root from Indirect. I've bricked 3 times and recovered. - just a little history
My thought on the ongoing "can I get it now?"
If you don't trust the DEVs enough to wait when they are trying to help and deliver something working and safe, then you should not trust them and install the software when it is ready.
Flame on!
Mike_IronFist said:
I would also like to take this moment to point out that if you have an "alpha 2" or "beta 1" of CM7 on your Nook, it's probably NOT a leaked version of the release that Celtic, Gonce and Indirect have in testing right now. It's almost guaranteed to be a modified version of the initial alpha, which means it would still have the bugs that could temporarily brick your Nook Tablet or possibly new ones that could brick the device permanently.
Don't go looking for these ROMs, they're fakes and could be very dangerous.
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Thank you for your support.
Thread Closed
I can see that this thread is only going to go downhill from here! Just opening a thread to brag is just not on.
Related
This is not intended to be mean to the ap team but i am posting this because i feel they should of been honest to us from the beginning and just said we can't release yet. My reasons for feeling this way are listed below
1. About 1 month after pk3 dual was released, pawel and the rest of the team changed their signature to rom: top secret and it had been like that even after hdubli posted a ported copy of wm6.1.... why did'nt pawel post a wm6.1 rom when he changed rom to top secret?
2. the team keeps saying stuff like we have a BT bug or screen problems and i realize that there are some updates on the ati driver and stuff but the BT stack that is on the wm6.1 that hdubli released works great. i can use a BT mouse and a BT keyboard, and BT headphone all at the same time and it works great. I can provide a vid if there are doubts
3. Most is importantly even BoyGeniusReport says http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/28/htcs-manilla-gets-screenshotted/ this rom is from the x7510. something i said on the "Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs...." post 228 but pawel denied this is post 229
in conclusion everyone should stop looking for the release of this rom and start looking for the release of the x7510 cause then and only then will this rom be released. I am only posting this so people can have a realistic outlook on the rom and can stop being dissapointed everyday in the hope it will be released. I did not post this to come down on the team i just feel like there is so much tension on this fourm and i wanted to make my thoughts known.
High Five
Hypothetically speaking...
... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
ok dude the rom is a 7510 rom but no way do i have to wait for it to be released. there still isn't a solid release date. the rom i could give u right now but it needs to properly be tested and bugs be fixed. we release with bugs, u guys complain, we look bad. i can take complaining before the rom then praises when it comes out.
also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
toastedlogic said:
... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
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1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
Go Knights!
irus said:
1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
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No kidding - I'm planning on getting back to school this fall myself. Live right around the corner from the Uni. No Halo, since my box was red-lighting again just before my damn cat knocked a cup of water over onto the PSU for it. So i've got a little bit of work to get my box working again... oh yeah and I was banned from Live just before all that too (modded firmware), so yeah I did play halo. Meh
Pawel062 said:
also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
High Five
PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
sergiopi said:
PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
tomary said:
i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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oooouch, i think that might be a little harsh. You forget they have already posted 3 roms so i think the people who have donated got their moneys worth
My first thought for the team is if you WANT to release, then there's nothing wrong with realeasing a beta--paid software makers do it all the time. Here is a beta with known bugs. Da-ta-da-tada. There's likely unknown bugs too--user beware. That's why its beta. Heck, while its not as optimal,some companies (cough, cough, microsoft,) can release betas as the real deal.
For free (please donations accepted look at the value) roms/software, the bar shouldn't be higher than that of the commercial stuff.
It's funny how this just suddenly went down hill with all the slandering etc etc... I appreciate the time EVERYONE on the AP Team took to make what was (and most of us if not ALL enjoyed it) and what is to be. I personally donated as a sign of gratitude and saying thank you, heck I would've donated if they had even asked for some sort of donation just to teach how they did it instead of releasing a new ROM. Some of you guys are just down right ungreatful and quickly forget all the hard work and time they Team puts in to stand behind their wonderful ROMS. And lets not forget the tons of apps they cook in the ROMS too. So what's the big deal if people want to donate I did it and I'll be doing it again in the near future.
If the team DOES NOT want to release. That is the team's perogative also. This seeming to hang forever on the edge of release is a little nerve wracking and is hard on the fan base,but so what? If we, the fan base, donate less--really--donations are piddly anyway. The team needs to do what they do for the fun of it and the satisfaction of it.
I think it's about time this ROM was released, bugs'n all. Just release as a Beta.
irus said:
but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
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thanx just dont like people saying i cant release this until the 7510 is out. i released snapvue before the shift was out and that was ok. i'll also release this new rom before the 7510 is out. i'll also be able to provide details when the 7510 is out and about what the price should be.
sergiopi said:
PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
tomary said:
i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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you are really getting out of hand. u donate if u like. i provided 4 roms to everyone already. people wanted a vanilla so im making a vanilla. i guess u can't make everyone happy.
Pawel062 said:
thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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If you don't mind I don't like getting my hopes up (again). So I'll put it on my calendar for Friday. I'm not hoping for it to be released before that (or maybe I am but trying not to). Dare I say it...? You're not going to disappoint us are you?
And please note. I greatly appreciate your hard work. That’s why I donated! But checking every day to find out that it’s not released it getting a bit tedious . Considering it has been hanging close to being released for quite some time now.
Awaiting delivery
it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
Pawel062 said:
it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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A few questions (if you don't mind, if you do just don't answer ):
Will the beta be usable? (maybe good to know for less experienced people);
What's your timezone?
NB: no not funny at all, as I said: I'm not getting my hopes up again.
how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this... o.. maybe not...
44.44% would rather have one single GingerBread ROM over anything else, excellent!
Keep the vote's rolling, let's find out what people really want!
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delete this
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this...
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What?-....-........
Delete lame 'roms' - firmware stools
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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...or not...
he`s half right about what he wrote.
obviously the ones and only that made a "almost fully" rom for ours x10, was/is Z, J and T.
but one interesting thing is. a few months ago, when i see this so called 2.1 roms never read anything about it. and they were called "rom".
i give that opinion on those times...nobody give a **** about that...
but if we go further, they don`t do any roms aswell. they pick some here, some there, mix all together and...hey, it worked...great.
the ONLY way we can have a TRUE custom rom is when we crack the f..k`in BL, untill now...
my understanding is:
this so called roms are...mod roms.
but thats just me
I think the Z J and trip are really developer.THX them
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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Well I can understand your point of view, even if I don't share it. Giving the people possibilities to choose from isn't the worst thing. And by modding one "ROM" in many ways, a lot of heads think about solutions for bugs and problems. In that way it actually is in the name of progress
Regarding the word ROM: I think most xda users are used to have ROMs for their phones and since the different firmwares we have for the X10 behave like a ROM in most aspects, it would be more confusing to call them firmwares, even if it is more correct...
Too funny
Honestly, I really kicked a hornets nest here - haha - Wow!
It's not really about names, firmwares and roms, apples and oranges etc.. I'm just really perplexed by the sheer volume of unfinished projects some blatantly ripped without any credit to the authors and more than anything, the sheer uselessness of the majority.
It's great that people want to contribute something, so how about downloading the favorable 'rom' (if it makes you feel cool.. or whatever) and make your contribution and then ONE BETTER, instead of uploading the whole schamozzle of mish mash..
Just the mods' that matter? I.E; Changed the Framework-Res.apk and a few apps, then do what Sempeternal does and release an update.zip! - Include screen shots.. but the whole firmware for a theme.. seem's overkill..
Put this in context, not naming names here but I downloaded a GingerBread a while back and it had one single app.. aside from that it was a virgin clone of another guy's rom - with no credit or even value... and it's nearly every day I'm seeing someone pop up with another CM or something and it's actually.. distracting.
Personally I'm 150% behind the work of Z, J and Sempiternal (my favorite theme is the new HC) which looks awesome on any GB modified firmware, even on Eclair and Froyo.
That is what I'm talking about! - Semp really knows what time it is and releases amazing work, free of charge. Best of all across any flavour, without any nonsense! All killer - no filler
Ginger!
i would say gingerbread and a cyanogen brew (which J would start to cook up soon^^)
i mean, who doesn't want the latest version of the most powerful android rom?
Since this is a thread opened for discussion, allow me to do exactly that. The below is strictly my own opinion and not a rant and/or an attack aimed at anyone.
I'm extremely disappointed at the way things are moving in the X10 Dev section. There are dozens of unnecessary half cooked 'ROMs' that're of no practical use. The blind self-righteous and immature dev worshipping present in the thread is shockingly mind numbing. Ask questions, even valid ones, and you're swarmed by these retarded sheep who respond back with insults and personal digs. One user even told me to go buy another X10 when I supported another user who posted a question for the Dev. about the the newer basebands, especially since the Dev himself mentioned that the newer baseband support may [or may not] come. Regardless, the question was for the Dev. and not the sheep.
Just when I feel consoled read something that hints at *some* progress being made with the current firmware, I find myself reading another post, after a while, which takes on a completely different direction. The firmware suddenly gets dropped in favor of a newer/<some popular ROM> which, then, necessitates the Dev. to re-engage himself with the long list of functions and features that aren't working. In essence it means, we're back to ground zero. Why is that necessary? It's a fact that we aren't going to see a 100% functional port because of the locked bootloader - so wouldn't it make more sense to concentrate on just 1 firmware and make it as perfect as possible, with the omission of things that wouldn't be working due to the locked down bootloader?
I sincerely think we need just *2* FIRMWARE threads in the Dev. area - one for 2.3.x and one for 2.2.x. The CM additions can be easily had by installing the CM Settings app, the themes etc. on top of whichever edition one chooses. There's no need to have a complete 'ROM' uploaded with the same critical and few non critical issues.
I should reiterate, the above is simply my own opinion and is in no way a rant or an attack on anyone.
Yes too many rom. Devs should work together to make a perfect room than every dev make their own rom better.
There are developers... and chefs... devs develop the software. Cooks or chefs take ingredients or parts of software and mix or cook them. If you have been a long member of xda you would know that this has always been how it is for EVERY phone that is on this site... but more so this thread propably should be moved to a different section.
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It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
People on here seem to have the mistaken impression that if devs came together we would have a perfect rom instead of several roms that have bugs... That is not the case. We would just have less choice, the bugs would still remain, things like the camcorder and camera issues don't just get fixed overnight. It's nice to see peoples own twist on things, sad to see some people don't appreciate this..
cobrato said:
It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
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Agreed with u...
+1
I personally would like the developers and the site to do the following.
1. Sticky the First Rom post from each guy, and only allow him to update it and a second post.
2. All comments, questions regarding it should be in a separate thread of the same title appended with [Discussion], which should be culled (or have a strike through put the heading) from the system the moment the dev releases a new version.
I for one, can not go through hundreds or thousands of posts most of which are not relevant any longer to the current version of the firmware/baseband whatever update. IT's very intimidating, and onerous on the reader- even professional IT people. I can't imagine what someone from a non-technical bent sent here by someone - "Hey you can get an update for that at XDA!" thinks when they encounter some of these 2,000+ plus postings.
The developers should take a bit of responsibility and update the first or second posts with any new issues that crop up from the discussions. You should not have to read 50 posts in to a thread to find out that there is a step missing in the install or a new bug has been confirmed. I've burned two X10's myself due to bugs and unclear instructions that were later corrected.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to support with money these guys, even though I have not actually put a 'custom' firmware onto any of my phones. I have put/used the tools that have been provided to do other things like JIT and rooting/updating SE firmware. I am looking forward to seeing a fully functional update to give me some of the things that are not available in 2.1 so I can get better applications. I think that not having some items like Hotspot, Tether and even 16m color on the display which require kernel updates are not that important since tether/hotspot can be added via applications in the market.
I don't think there can be a better example of why we don't need random people come up with ROMs [they're firmwares, NOT ROMs]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11669817&postcount=97
In that thread, the main issue is not about giving or not giving credits, it's about calling oneself a 'Chef' and delivering half baked results which ultimately causes grief when users don't receive solutions to their legitimate queries/firmware related problems.
recovery achieved on the AT&T Galaxy Note...
Just have to fix up the resolution, some other stuff and fully test it.
Braway and myself finally got this running...we are fixing it up now and hopefully will post a test version before I pass out.
Thanks to Koush, bubby323 and utkanos.
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AndroidUser00110001 said:
I have been messing with this Note and what a pain in the ass...
First I left Windows to do some serious dev work on AOSP. Then I had to get Odin working with virtual box, learn the Note setup and blah blah blah...
Anyways, I am burnt and not even sure if I am going to keep this phone.
Here is the initramfs.cpio from the kernel which is needed to build recovery.
Maybe another dev or two or whatever can join me and get this finished up.
Some guides...
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/10/porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8296-gui...rkmod-recovery-into-samsunginitramfs-devices/
I'll have it done Thursday or Friday if no one else wants to jump in, that's IF I keep this device.
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Keep it bro
Why might you give up the note, I hope you don't leave we need more developers here..
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Android thanks for your help...I will take a look at the files....but have you not spoken to DaG...word is he is working on it as well
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Will this also be available to us rogers users?
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CWM
Man, We need you!!!!We need those who know how this stuff really works. Think of all those you would be helping. Even those who don't know how to use the thanks button. lol
why don't someone send Koushik their phone and we will have something with in the week?
"Update/Preface:
It is difficult for me to port recovery for a device I don’t have. So, people can attempt to port it using this guide. However, if you want it done properly, and probably quicker, you can loan the device to me personally at:
Koushik Dutta 2721 1st Ave 507 Seattle, WA 98121
The package must include:
The rooted phone.
A return packing slip to your address.
A signed statement saying: “I, <your name here>, am lending this device, <name of device>, to Koushik Dutta so that he can try to port Clockwork Recovery to the device. I understand that rooting a phone voids the warranty and tampering with the software may render the device nonfunctional. I realize and accept that the phone may not be functional when it is returned. Koushik Dutta is not liable for any damages to the device.”
BEFORE SENDING ME THE PACKAGE, CONFIRM WITH ME THAT I AM AVAILABLE TO PORT THE RECOVERY.
It will take around a week, and there are no gaurantees whether I will actually be able to do it (due to proprietary software, locked bootloaders, my schedule, etc). After a week (generally quicker), I will send it back. I’m a trustworthy guy and am well known in the Android community. And I’ve already done this for several loaner devices. So you don’t need to worry about the safety of your precious hardware."
I hope you keep it, because with dev support it will turn out to be a truly awesome device, but I understand the frustration. It's so annoying to deal with Samsung's ODIN crap after having a pure android device.
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xavier55 said:
why don't someone send Koushik their phone and we will have something with in the week?
"Update/Preface:
It is difficult for me to port recovery for a device I don’t have. So, people can attempt to port it using this guide. However, if you want it done properly, and probably quicker, you can loan the device to me personally at:
Koushik Dutta 2721 1st Ave 507 Seattle, WA 98121
The package must include:
The rooted phone.
A return packing slip to your address.
A signed statement saying: “I, <your name here>, am lending this device, <name of device>, to Koushik Dutta so that he can try to port Clockwork Recovery to the device. I understand that rooting a phone voids the warranty and tampering with the software may render the device nonfunctional. I realize and accept that the phone may not be functional when it is returned. Koushik Dutta is not liable for any damages to the device.”
BEFORE SENDING ME THE PACKAGE, CONFIRM WITH ME THAT I AM AVAILABLE TO PORT THE RECOVERY.
It will take around a week, and there are no gaurantees whether I will actually be able to do it (due to proprietary software, locked bootloaders, my schedule, etc). After a week (generally quicker), I will send it back. I’m a trustworthy guy and am well known in the Android community. And I’ve already done this for several loaner devices. So you don’t need to worry about the safety of your precious hardware."
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I asked him on Google Plus and he said that Cyanogen would probably do it, as he has one, but he might not be aware that there are two versions, Cyanogen might not have ours.
Nooo. . Don't give up... This is a great phone... We need devs
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I have sent Da_G a message and not heard back but it was very early in the AM for me so maybe he just did not see it yet.
I want to keep the device but money is tight, I paid full retail for it and did not open a new line because in the end it cost the same plus more...I have actually grown to like it since I have been playing with it for a couple of days now. Just removing all the bloat and extra stuff has made it more snapppy.
I got in touch with Koush, well really quickly and sent him the files that are needed so hopefully he will have something for us. If not I am going to try to build it later tonight. I believe I sent him everything that is needed and after a few builds it should be working properly.
I basically have the device tree setup to start building custom Gingerbread ROMs and then move to ICS once I know the device tree is working properly and update the Samsung Kernel source to work with ICS
With all the files and data in place to build recovery and custom ROMs it should not be much longer until we have it all going. If I end up keeping the device I plan on geeking out big time this weekend and just work on it
AndroidUser00110001 said:
I have sent Da_G a message and not heard back but it was very early in the AM for me so maybe he just did not see it yet.
I want to keep the device but money is tight, I paid full retail for it and did not open a new line because in the end it cost the same plus more...I have actually grown to like it since I have been playing with it for a couple of days now. Just removing all the bloat and extra stuff has made it more snapppy.
I got in touch with Koush, well really quickly and sent him the files that are needed so hopefully he will have something for us. If not I am going to try to build it later tonight. I believe I sent him everything that is needed and after a few builds it should be working properly.
I basically have the device tree setup to start building custom Gingerbread ROMs and then move to ICS once I know the device tree is working properly and update the Samsung Kernel source to work with ICS
With all the files and data in place to build recovery and custom ROMs it should not be much longer until we have it all going. If I end up keeping the device I plan on geeking out big time this weekend and just work on it
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I'll donate a few bucks to try to persuade you to keep it. The hardware is awesome, I'm excited to see this thing get some dev attention.
AndroidUser00110001 said:
I have sent Da_G a message and not heard back but it was very early in the AM for me so maybe he just did not see it yet.
I want to keep the device but money is tight, I paid full retail for it and did not open a new line because in the end it cost the same plus more...I have actually grown to like it since I have been playing with it for a couple of days now. Just removing all the bloat and extra stuff has made it more snapppy.
I got in touch with Koush, well really quickly and sent him the files that are needed so hopefully he will have something for us. If not I am going to try to build it later tonight. I believe I sent him everything that is needed and after a few builds it should be working properly.
I basically have the device tree setup to start building custom Gingerbread ROMs and then move to ICS once I know the device tree is working properly and update the Samsung Kernel source to work with ICS
With all the files and data in place to build recovery and custom ROMs it should not be much longer until we have it all going. If I end up keeping the device I plan on geeking out big time this weekend and just work on it
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Keep it bro
Oh yeah...
I am also planning on bringing over Codename ROM Utility...
More info can be found HERE
I will start putting content on it soon for the AT&T Galaxy Note.
Hang tight...I need to fix it for GB...lol. I will have to do it when I get home
AndroidUser00110001 said:
I am also planning on bringing over Codename ROM Utility...
More info can be found HERE
I will start putting content on it soon for the AT&T Galaxy Note.
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Been following you since AOSP+. Can't wait to see what you do with the Note if you decide to keep it. Here's to hoping you do!
AndroidUser00110001 said:
I have sent Da_G a message and not heard back but it was very early in the AM for me so maybe he just did not see it yet.
I want to keep the device but money is tight, I paid full retail for it and did not open a new line because in the end it cost the same plus more...I have actually grown to like it since I have been playing with it for a couple of days now. Just removing all the bloat and extra stuff has made it more snapppy.
I got in touch with Koush, well really quickly and sent him the files that are needed so hopefully he will have something for us. If not I am going to try to build it later tonight. I believe I sent him everything that is needed and after a few builds it should be working properly.
I basically have the device tree setup to start building custom Gingerbread ROMs and then move to ICS once I know the device tree is working properly and update the Samsung Kernel source to work with ICS
With all the files and data in place to build recovery and custom ROMs it should not be much longer until we have it all going. If I end up keeping the device I plan on geeking out big time this weekend and just work on it
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thanks man i keep up the good we need more devs
Sounds good man we need the Devs. appreciate all the work,
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Try contacting utkanos, he ported cwm for our i957 without owning the device. If you all want I can request from him in IRC.
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More devs are coming
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dman3285 said:
More devs are coming
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Yeah! Dman! I LOVE ZEUS on my Infuse...
when I read through the github and look at the closed issues and still open , i see there are some closed issues that still remain as unsolved in your current beta? is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems? i like to see that your building a CM9 rom for our ace, but i wasnt the slightest bit impressed with beta4, the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
I guess u can give a shot then
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What problem tht is closed still exists? All closed issues have been fixed
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008bond said:
What problem tht is closed still exists? All closed issues have been fixed
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I had intermittent wifi problems, gallery app crashing, gallery widget failure, at the time I had no USB cable connected, and UMS notification would remain in top left, and randomly say "USB cable disconnected", music playback was skippy.
I liked how smooth it was, but it seemed very irresponsive, and sometimes the keyboard would stay on screen.
A letter to the haters aka groupies.
IceCreamSammich said:
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is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems?
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the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
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The given github is only more or less an intermediate fake bug tracker with no real corresponding CM9 source code as backup. You will not find any fixes in the CM9 sources from Alpha1 to Beta4 releases on there. He's like Houdini. Throwing quick binary fixes from nowhere at the head of his fans and they're all happily screaming for more candies. I'm sure you already heard of PDroid or CarrierIQ, right?
If not: Ask your best friend uncle google. ...
Macław said:
CHANGELOG:
-----beta4 - Macław and Mikegapinski build
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Of course updated CM9 sources
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Call me blind, but I can't find it anywhere on your github.
EmoBoiix3 said:
I tried , the lunch command gave me **** . I might need help from Maclaw .
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The last edit of the source on github was made by yourself. And it was only an edit of a readme file (->https://github.com/GalaxyICS/androi...70efa53c1c6f6f47a7974a29b65e39d79676e3#ReadMe).
I highly doubt that you or anybody else will be able to build Beta4 from the public available github sources. It is his business model anyway. As long as there are happy customers eagerly supporting it, I don't care. Au contraire ... I hope he can milk and squeeze out of them as much as he can! Why? Because they both have found each other and do represent a prime example of a natural symbiotic relationship of demand and supply in a capitalistic marketplace.
@all_the_haters
Read my post carefully again (at least 10 times; ask google translate or a friend of yours with more english capabilities to explain it to you in your mother tongue) and tell me where I'm ranting or dissing anyone at. I'm just making an educated guess based on the freely puclic available resources. Freeing you from the burden to do it yourself. Take as is or just ignore it. I myself have a clear picture of you: One who does not even know what logcat is but pathetically standing up eagerly fighting and screaming for a beta development software in a development thread dissing others with more than off topic comments himself. If this picture of yours is not that sad, I might want to laugh about it, but currently I rather want to cry about this disgusting fact.
Otherwise, I'm wishing you all a happy and long lasting wet ICS dream from the bottom of my pure and truthful heart. ...
Btw, here is a counterexample of a quality wokrsmanship.
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tossan said:
The given github is only more or less an intermediate fake bug tracker with no real corresponding CM9 source code as backup. You will not find any fixes in the CM9 sources from Alpha1 to Beta4 releases on there. He's like Houdini. Throwing quick binary fixes from nowhere at the head of his fans and they're all happily screaming for more candies. I'm sure you already heard of PDroid or CarrierIQ, right?
If not: Ask your best friend uncle google. ...
Call me blind, but I can't find it anywhere on your github.
The last edit of the source on github was made by yourself. And it was only an edit of a readme file (->https://github.com/GalaxyICS/androi...70efa53c1c6f6f47a7974a29b65e39d79676e3#ReadMe).
I highly doubt that you or anybody else will be able to build Beta4 from the public available github sources. It is his business model anyway. As long as there are happy customers eagerly supporting it, I don't care. Au contraire ... I hope he can milk and squeeze out of them as much as he can! Why? Because they both have found each other and do represent a prime example of a natural symbiotic relationship of demand and supply in a capitalistic marketplace.
@all_the_haters
Read my post carefully again (at least 10 times; ask google translate or a friend of yours with more english capabilities to explain it to you in your mother tongue) and tell me where I'm ranting or dissing anyone at. I'm just making an educated guess based on the freely puclic available resources. Freeing you from the burden to do it yourself. Take as is or just ignore it. I myself have a clear picture of you: One who does not even know what logcat is but pathetically standing up eagerly fighting and screaming for a beta development software in a development thread dissing others with more than off topic comments himself. If this picture of yours is not that sad, I might want to laugh about it, but currently I rather want to cry about this disgusting fact.
Otherwise, I'm wishing you all a happy and long lasting wet ICS dream from the bottom of my pure and truthful heart. ...
Btw, here is a counterexample of a quality wokrsmanship.
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Ugh what's wrong with you......I was talking about AOKP you idiot .
Herpderp Defy.
IceCreamSammich said:
I had intermittent wifi problems, gallery app crashing, gallery widget failure, at the time I had no USB cable connected, and UMS notification would remain in top left, and randomly say "USB cable disconnected", music playback was skippy.
I liked how smooth it was, but it seemed very irresponsive, and sometimes the keyboard would stay on screen.
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There were wifi issues, but they have been fixed. If you still have them, connect to your wifi and switch to static IP. (Works fine for me.)
The usb debugging did not work, but Maclaw has fixed it and I think it will be in the next release.
Gallery works for me, however, sometimes it does not work. Maclaw said that the gallery is RAM hungry and there is not way to fix this unless you can get more RAM installed on your ace.(Which is not possible.)
Music player works fine, did you try disabling shake and flip actions? (It works fine for me even with them.)
The keyboard is a genuine issue and I think it comes under the "flick issue" in which some menus do not disappear even after pressing OK.
EmoBoiix3 said:
...you idiot .
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Never expected more than this from the master troll in here. Or does your sister(s) hacked your XDA account again? Because I myself have a hard time to explain to my virtual little AND big sisters what CM or AOSP even is (let alone AOKP)! ...
Does it make any sense to you:
Requesting write acces to Mc CM9 github.
Edit the readme file.
Asking for help to compile AOKP in the Mc CM9 development thread?
If you don't really seriously want to work on CM9 and contribute bugfixes, than I guess you wanted only to get on the list of the new superheroes? Congrats: You've done it good!
And if I do remember it correctly, you did even write a HOWTO to compile AOSP/AOKP somewhere yourself, didn't you? Putting the fact aside, that I did the little mistake about your request with the Mc CM9 build itself, my conclusive statement still holds. What are you so mad about then?
Either way, I'm wishing you all the best luck to successfully compile AOKP or CM9 ICS builts and share it again by a nice noob proven tutorial (Don't forget to make proper credits to MacLaw and buy him a new PC by then!). ...
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tossan said:
Never expected more than this from the master troll in here. Or does your sister(s) hacked your XDA account again? Because I myself have a hard time to explain to my virtual little AND big sisters what CM or AOSP even is (let alone AOKP)! ...
Does it make any sense to you:
Requesting write acces to Mc CM9 github.
Edit the readme file.
Asking for help to compile AOKP in the Mc CM9 development thread?
If you don't really seriously want to work on CM9 and contribute bugfixes, than I guess you wanted only to get on the list of the new superheroes? Congrats: You've done it good!
And if I do remember it correctly, you did even write a HOWTO to compile AOSP/AOKP somewhere yourself, didn't you? Putting the fact aside, that I did the little mistake about your request with the Mc CM9 build itself, my conclusive statement still holds. What are you so mad about then?
Either way, I'm wishing you all the best luck to successfully compile AOKP or CM9 ICS builts and share it again by a nice noob proven tutorial (Don't forget to make proper credits to MacLaw and buy him a new PC by then!). ...
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Well,You had a hard time in explaining even AOSP...that shows your high level of intellingence.
And if you are sooooo intelligent then y dont you try to port ICS yourself?Oooooo I forgot,you are too busy with your investigation about maclaw and his port..!!
Well atleast he isnt trolling like you and trying something.Get a life mr.tossan..will ya??
er...informative? CHILL GUYS... or Maybe our mr Tossan can help contributing on cm9...?
Well , I'm sorry that you didn't even try to start on the entire AOSP thing .
I'm sorry you didn't venture out to try new experiences .
I'm sorry that you didn't fail hard like I did .
I'm sorry that I didn't make any good ROM .
Herpderp Defy.
EmoBoiix3 said:
Well , I'm sorry that you didn't even try to start on the entire AOSP thing .
I'm sorry you didn't venture out to try new experiences .
I'm sorry that you didn't fail hard like I did .
I'm sorry that I didn't make any good ROM .
Herpderp Defy.
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Sorry for what Matt? >.< Trolls will keep on trolling,they are better to be ignored.Some act like they know everything,while all they know is just talk about stuff that anyone can attain with the help of Google...
Shall we begin and reiterate the purpose and meaning of this thread again?
The title says:
[Q] About Maclaws CM9 beta4
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The open questions are:
IceCreamSammich said:
when I read through the github and look at the closed issues and still open , i see there are some closed issues that still remain as unsolved in your current beta? is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems? i like to see that your building a CM9 rom for our ace, but i wasnt the slightest bit impressed with beta4, the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
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Now ask yourself about the contribution you have made since entering this thread. All I can see is the denial of crude facts. If you don't have any constructive contribution to share, then just keep it like the monkey, who does not want to say anything. Then nobody could ever deduce from that to your level of skill.
And here is a very hard task for you to solve: Which of this three cute fellows does represents you best?
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「非礼勿视，非礼勿听，非礼勿言，非礼勿动。」
「fei li wu shi, fei li wu ting, fei li wu yan, fei li wu dong.」
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tossan said:
Shall we begin and reiterate the purpose and meaning of this thread again?
The title says:
The open questions are:
Now ask yourself about the contribution you have made since entering this thread. All I can see is the denial of crude facts. If you don't have any constructive contribution to share, then just keep it like the monkey, who does not want to say anything. Then nobody could ever deduce from that to your level of skill.
And here is a very hard task for you to solve: Which of this three cute fellows does represents you best?
「非礼勿视，非礼勿听，非礼勿言，非礼勿动。」
「fei li wu shi, fei li wu ting, fei li wu yan, fei li wu dong.」
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I'm pretty sure no-one called the police?? I didn't
AOKP 4 LYF
scoffyburito said:
I'm pretty sure no-one called the police?? I didn't
AOKP 4 LYF
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... by the way i think our Mr Tossan got a point here.. he just explaining the issues here. no harm done.... chill guys.. all of u are awesome developers.
zaqwankira said:
... by the way i think our Mr Tossan got a point here.. he just explaining the issues here. no harm done.... chill guys.. all of u are awesome developers.
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Yeah but tossans posts hurt my eyes (xda app)
AOKP 4 LYF
XD....laugh hard for the monkeys
news about 0 dbm 97 asu signal?
我什么都不管了。你要怎样办就怎么办吧。
I applaud you if you know what it means without using a translator .
And I mean what I typed .
Herpderp Defy.
EmoBoiix3 said:
我什么都不管了。你要怎样办就怎么办吧。
I applaud you if you know what it means without using a translator .
And I mean what I typed .
Herpderp Defy.
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So that's Chinese? I'm doing katakana and kanji at the moment and I can spot out a few characters.
AOKP 4 LYF
Cyanogenmod 9 Codename: Nebula for the YP-G1
Code:
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/
Hey guys here's what you have been waiting for. The unofficial official release of CM9 for the Samsung Galaxy Player/S Wifi 4.0 (a.k.a YP-G1). The TeamSupernova is proud to be the first of porting it.(with some exterior help) It is built on the latest commits from the stable CM9 4.0.4 source tree. This rom isn't different from any other stock CM9 but it's more streamlined and it's more official to release it like this.
Here's the context of how we have made it possible (thanks Hanthesolo for this story):
Firstly, excuse my cheesy biblical writing, I just have always wanted to write something in that format .
In the beginning (march 2012), there was hanthesolo. He saw the Galaxy Player forums, and all that he saw was good. This man started creating new work for the Gplayer forums, a and gained a small following. There was just one issue that concerned him: NO ICS!
In light of this, this man created a thread, to collect all ICS development, into one easy-to-read forum. Other began to follow him, zaclimon, Ijimaniac, and several others. Ideas flew fast and furious, but hope was waning quickly. A kernel would have to be created from scratch, a monumental task that had not been undertaken by any man so far.
All was quiet for awhile, and people began to slowly fade out, until only hanthesolo and zaclimon remained, slowly trading ideas and guesses over several weeks. Then a new disciple arrived: neyodmium. This korean (?) developer brought a different kind of kernel experience to the trio, and development began in earnest, with zaclimon and neyodmium trading work, while hanthesolo contributed where he could. One unsurmountable issue arose: this magnificient kernel, the likes of which had never lit up these forums before, would merely boot into recovery, not into Android.
Then Oisis came around, hearing our desperate cries for help. Like a moses, he guided his flock in the right direction, squashing issue after issue, until a monumental day arrived: August 13, 2012. On this day, ICS was finally created in Cyanogen's own image, and it was good.
Then increased development began, with hanthesolo squashing CM9 bugs, while zaclimon, neyodmium, and Oisis working feverishly on the kernel.
But an issue occurred, a wrench in the works. Thine enemy's name is GL, SuperNOva. GL would not cooperate, acting as a barrier between usable ICS, and frustrated efforts to fix it. But one day, the magical variable was flipped, and the builds booted! About this time there was a github mishap involving a bad I9000 push that stopped things for about a week, but that's another story.
What happens next? I dunno, but I will update this story when it happens .
NOTE: This does NOT represent anyone's political or religious standpoint, or the way anyone is viewed. It was created as a humorous way to explain our situation to users.
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What's working:
Boot
Wifi
GPS
ADB
Accelerometer
Sound (voodoo module is included inside the kernel)
H/W acceleration (75/80% complete, video acceleration missing)
Deep sleep (MUCH better battery life than older ICS builds)
Native USB mount storage
FM Radio (download the spirit fm radio app from the store)
OC up to 1.2 gHz.
You tell me
What's not working:
Bluetooth
Camera (rendering is pretty crappy)
Recovery (well it does work but it can't reboot correctly to the system)
US home button (I do have a workaround for the moment)
Built-in CPU tuner (for OC/UC)
You tell me
Changelog:
Code:
Beta 1:
Initial release
Instructions
Note: Please backup your efs in case of something goes wrong (the zip should backup it but we're never too sure) To do so execute this command:
Code:
dd if=/dev/block/stl3 of=/sdcard/efs.rfs
You will need heimdall for this, if you don't know how to use it here's a guide on how-to:
DISCLAIMER: if you don't know how to use heimdall to reflash to stock (if needed) then you shouldn't flash this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922461
1. Unzip the package which contains the zip and the boot.img.
2. Put the rom zip into the root of the sdcard.
3. Flash the rom using CWM. If you don't have it, please flash a custom kernel .(I recommend terrasilent)
4. When you're in CWM6, reflash the rom again.
5. After the second flash, flash the gapps zip. (if you have it)
6. Wipe your data.
7. Reboot into download mode and flash a GB kernel. (preferably the one you had before)
8. Reboot again into download mode after getting into CWM5.
9. Flash the boot.img included in the package by using heimdall at the KERNEL partition.
10. It should reboot and you will have your bit of Icy sandwich!!
NB: If you want the soft keys, (regardless of the reasons, RECOMMENDED FOR US PLAYERS, download the zip for the keys and flash it over CWM)
Here's the instructions in a more concrete way (Thanks Daniel644 for the video)
For those having problems with the encryption thing, here's the fix (Thanks Goldflame09)
For those if you who install and get the encryption error, follow these steps and it will work.
1) Hit reset tablet on the error page.
2) Go into recovery
3) Wipe data/factory reset.
4) Reboot system now.
5) As soon as the screen shuts off, go into download.
6) Flash terra silent kernel.
7) Let it boot into recovery and ignore all the errors.
8) Go to advanced and reboot download.
9) Flash the boot.img again.
10) Should be all set as long as you don't go into recovery.
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Sources
Because we need to comply with the licenses and if you want to use our sources for something else here they are:
Device tree: https://github.com/TeamSupernovaSGP/android_device_samsung_ypg1
Kernel source: https://github.com/TeamSupernovaSGP/android_kernel_samsung_ypg1
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Samsung
Google
TeamHacksung
Pawitp (without him, ICS wouldn't have been what it is now big props to him!!)
Jt1134
Cyanogenmod
Supermaster34
Tdmcode
Downloads
B1
Gapps
Gapps Download
Software Key Mod
Soft Key Download (On-Screen buttons)
Screenshots
reserved, just in case .
reserved (watever that means)
but can i be a tester?
the playa! said:
reserved (watever that means)
but can i be a tester?
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reserved means that I reserved the post in case I have more to put into the thread (han made it too so idk why you put reserved too )
Also there's already the beta 1 of ICS for the 4.0 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668&page=113
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reserved means that I reserved the post in case I have more to put into the thread (han made it too so idk why you put reserved too )
Also there's already the beta 1 of ICS for the 4.0 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668&page=113
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i didnt know that...
So, is this going to be apart of supernova, or your own separate project?
Can't wait.
iJimaniac said:
So, is this going to be apart of supernova, or your own separate project?
Can't wait.
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You'll see.
zaclimon said:
You'll see.
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in how long?
the playa! said:
in how long?
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No ETA's
Seriously, I think there are way to many s flying around
iJimaniac said:
No ETA's
Seriously, I think there are way to many s flying around
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yeah, ikr?
thats sad though.. no ETA's.. watever then.
Yes, no ETA's. Me, zaclimon and Oisis are all balacing ery busy schedules to get this to you guys as fast as possible. Me and zac stay up until almost midnight many nights testing and developing, and Oisis has to be up a 2-3 in the morning JUST to be able to talk to us, not to mention having to balance a VERY busy school schedule, our individual social lives, etc.
So please stop asking us for ETA's, or if this will be fixed by X, or that by Y, because we're developing this for the benefit of the community. We're not getting paid, or gaining any tax breaks, we're just a couple of guys who have decided to unlock the complete potential of this device, and if I do say so myself, I think we're doing a pretty dang good job on it, all things considered.
My rant is done, but guys, please understand what we're going through to be able to get this to you.
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Yes, no ETA's. Me, zaclimon and Oisis are all balacing ery busy schedules to get this to you guys as fast as possible. Me and zac stay up until almost midnight many nights testing and developing, and Oisis has to be up a 2-3 in the morning JUST to be able to talk to us, not to mention having to balance a VERY busy school schedule, our individual social lives, etc.
So please stop asking us for ETA's, or if this will be fixed by X, or that by Y, because we're developing this for the benefit of the community. We're not getting paid, or gaining any tax breaks, we're just a couple of guys who have decided to unlock the complete potential of this device, and if I do say so myself, I think we're doing a pretty dang good job on it, all things considered.
My rant is done, but guys, please understand what we're going through to be able to get this to you.
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i understand. sorry about all my fuss that i created.
please forgive me.
the playa! said:
i understand. sorry about all my fuss that i created.
please forgive me.
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No problem, it's not directly directed at you, it's just directed at the entire community. It's an unfortunate fact that most people these days forget how much time devs spend working on this stuff for them, which is understandable, since we don't share the development process with you guys. Just keep in mind that it's normally a lot more time-consuming to accomplish a task then we let on.
hanthesolo said:
Yes, no ETA's. Me, zaclimon and Oisis are all balacing ery busy schedules to get this to you guys as fast as possible. Me and zac stay up until almost midnight many nights testing and developing, and Oisis has to be up a 2-3 in the morning JUST to be able to talk to us, not to mention having to balance a VERY busy school schedule, our individual social lives, etc.
So please stop asking us for ETA's, or if this will be fixed by X, or that by Y, because we're developing this for the benefit of the community. We're not getting paid, or gaining any tax breaks, we're just a couple of guys who have decided to unlock the complete potential of this device, and if I do say so myself, I think we're doing a pretty dang good job on it, all things considered.
My rant is done, but guys, please understand what we're going through to be able to get this to you.
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hanthesolo said:
No problem, it's not directly directed at you, it's just directed at the entire community. It's an unfortunate fact that most people these days forget how much time devs spend working on this stuff for them, which is understandable, since we don't share the development process with you guys. Just keep in mind that it's normally a lot more time-consuming to accomplish a task then we let on.
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Rectum dictis! :good:
(Sounds dirty, right? It's actually Latin for, "Well said!")
Just thought I'd brighten the mood with some humor.
well this time, i think asking ETA is less reproachable. The team or zaclimon individually already posted the new thread about the coming ROM.
It's like advertising Avengers 2 is coming out but not telling people when it will be available.
it's natural for people to question when is it actually going to come out.
I think it's different from the typical ETA inquiry that i usually encounter.
stylemate said:
well this time, i think asking ETA is less reproachable. The team or zaclimon individually already posted the new thread about the coming ROM.
It's like advertising Avengers 2 is coming out but not telling people when it will be available.
it's natural for people to question when is it actually going to come out.
I think it's different from the typical ETA inquiry that i usually encounter.
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No, sir, I do believe ANY ETA inquiry is against the forum rules.
XDA does not operate like the movie industry, nor like any commercial industry for that matter.
Outside of XDA, teasers and release announcements lead to inquiries, which may or may not be answered. Within XDA, teasers, promotions, and/or announcements are for the sole purpose of notification only. When the project is ready, it is ready. No questions asked.
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No, sir, I do believe ANY ETA inquiry is against the forum rules.
XDA does not operate like the movie industry, nor like any commercial industry for that matter.
Outside of XDA, teasers and release announcements lead to inquiries, which may or may not be answered. Within XDA, teasers, promotions, and/or announcements are for the sole purpose of notification only. When the project is ready, it is ready. No questions asked.
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As I think more, I'm not sure if the question"(coming soon) in how long"? can be even considered as ETA inquiry. (connotatively)
There was no mention of WIP nor that the work is not complete yet.
In CM9's Camera's case, I'm also opposed to ETA inquiries.
People know that the work is in progress and the time required is indefinite.
But in this case, there was no hint that the work was unfinished nor about the uncertainty of completion.
zaclimon said that it's coming soon.
In Supermaster's thread about Camera WIP, none says "coming soon"
I think the term "coming soon" should be used more carefully because it means that the producer is somewhat ready and definite that the work is going to be finished and released on the specific time.
and i don't think that asking when the producer would wish to release is the "ETA inquiry" that people get attentive of.
I'm not trying to provoke any fight in this forum, I don't want to flame anyone and cause trouble.
I admire you guys' work because I'm a complete noob.
Of course i've never been developer and never felt how it would be to be asked of ETA.
But I just want people to ease up the tension in this forum.
Peace.
My apologies if my words appeared as flaming. Never were my intentions to flame you, I only wanted to point out that XDA is a not-for-profit forum/project, and all of the work that the developers do here is on a goodwill basis.
Those who ask for ETA's do not realize how much work it takes for a GOODWILL developer to manage life, work/school, and development on their own dime and time.
It's like a homeless person coming into your house, just after you've worked a full day and managed family and other obligations. You've just started cooking dinner, but you're all ready stressed and tired from a full day when the homeless person asks, "Hey, bud! When's dinner going to be ready? I'm hungry! C'mon Hurry up!"
Just sayin'.