when I read through the github and look at the closed issues and still open , i see there are some closed issues that still remain as unsolved in your current beta? is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems? i like to see that your building a CM9 rom for our ace, but i wasnt the slightest bit impressed with beta4, the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
I guess u can give a shot then
Sent from my GT-S5830
What problem tht is closed still exists? All closed issues have been fixed
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008bond said:
What problem tht is closed still exists? All closed issues have been fixed
Sent from my GT-S5830 using XDA
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I had intermittent wifi problems, gallery app crashing, gallery widget failure, at the time I had no USB cable connected, and UMS notification would remain in top left, and randomly say "USB cable disconnected", music playback was skippy.
I liked how smooth it was, but it seemed very irresponsive, and sometimes the keyboard would stay on screen.
A letter to the haters aka groupies.
IceCreamSammich said:
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is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems?
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the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
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The given github is only more or less an intermediate fake bug tracker with no real corresponding CM9 source code as backup. You will not find any fixes in the CM9 sources from Alpha1 to Beta4 releases on there. He's like Houdini. Throwing quick binary fixes from nowhere at the head of his fans and they're all happily screaming for more candies. I'm sure you already heard of PDroid or CarrierIQ, right?
If not: Ask your best friend uncle google. ...
Macław said:
CHANGELOG:
-----beta4 - Macław and Mikegapinski build
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Of course updated CM9 sources
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Call me blind, but I can't find it anywhere on your github.
EmoBoiix3 said:
I tried , the lunch command gave me **** . I might need help from Maclaw .
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The last edit of the source on github was made by yourself. And it was only an edit of a readme file (->https://github.com/GalaxyICS/androi...70efa53c1c6f6f47a7974a29b65e39d79676e3#ReadMe).
I highly doubt that you or anybody else will be able to build Beta4 from the public available github sources. It is his business model anyway. As long as there are happy customers eagerly supporting it, I don't care. Au contraire ... I hope he can milk and squeeze out of them as much as he can! Why? Because they both have found each other and do represent a prime example of a natural symbiotic relationship of demand and supply in a capitalistic marketplace.
@all_the_haters
Read my post carefully again (at least 10 times; ask google translate or a friend of yours with more english capabilities to explain it to you in your mother tongue) and tell me where I'm ranting or dissing anyone at. I'm just making an educated guess based on the freely puclic available resources. Freeing you from the burden to do it yourself. Take as is or just ignore it. I myself have a clear picture of you: One who does not even know what logcat is but pathetically standing up eagerly fighting and screaming for a beta development software in a development thread dissing others with more than off topic comments himself. If this picture of yours is not that sad, I might want to laugh about it, but currently I rather want to cry about this disgusting fact.
Otherwise, I'm wishing you all a happy and long lasting wet ICS dream from the bottom of my pure and truthful heart. ...
Btw, here is a counterexample of a quality wokrsmanship.
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The given github is only more or less an intermediate fake bug tracker with no real corresponding CM9 source code as backup. You will not find any fixes in the CM9 sources from Alpha1 to Beta4 releases on there. He's like Houdini. Throwing quick binary fixes from nowhere at the head of his fans and they're all happily screaming for more candies. I'm sure you already heard of PDroid or CarrierIQ, right?
If not: Ask your best friend uncle google. ...
Call me blind, but I can't find it anywhere on your github.
The last edit of the source on github was made by yourself. And it was only an edit of a readme file (->https://github.com/GalaxyICS/androi...70efa53c1c6f6f47a7974a29b65e39d79676e3#ReadMe).
I highly doubt that you or anybody else will be able to build Beta4 from the public available github sources. It is his business model anyway. As long as there are happy customers eagerly supporting it, I don't care. Au contraire ... I hope he can milk and squeeze out of them as much as he can! Why? Because they both have found each other and do represent a prime example of a natural symbiotic relationship of demand and supply in a capitalistic marketplace.
@all_the_haters
Read my post carefully again (at least 10 times; ask google translate or a friend of yours with more english capabilities to explain it to you in your mother tongue) and tell me where I'm ranting or dissing anyone at. I'm just making an educated guess based on the freely puclic available resources. Freeing you from the burden to do it yourself. Take as is or just ignore it. I myself have a clear picture of you: One who does not even know what logcat is but pathetically standing up eagerly fighting and screaming for a beta development software in a development thread dissing others with more than off topic comments himself. If this picture of yours is not that sad, I might want to laugh about it, but currently I rather want to cry about this disgusting fact.
Otherwise, I'm wishing you all a happy and long lasting wet ICS dream from the bottom of my pure and truthful heart. ...
Btw, here is a counterexample of a quality wokrsmanship.
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Ugh what's wrong with you......I was talking about AOKP you idiot .
Herpderp Defy.
IceCreamSammich said:
I had intermittent wifi problems, gallery app crashing, gallery widget failure, at the time I had no USB cable connected, and UMS notification would remain in top left, and randomly say "USB cable disconnected", music playback was skippy.
I liked how smooth it was, but it seemed very irresponsive, and sometimes the keyboard would stay on screen.
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There were wifi issues, but they have been fixed. If you still have them, connect to your wifi and switch to static IP. (Works fine for me.)
The usb debugging did not work, but Maclaw has fixed it and I think it will be in the next release.
Gallery works for me, however, sometimes it does not work. Maclaw said that the gallery is RAM hungry and there is not way to fix this unless you can get more RAM installed on your ace.(Which is not possible.)
Music player works fine, did you try disabling shake and flip actions? (It works fine for me even with them.)
The keyboard is a genuine issue and I think it comes under the "flick issue" in which some menus do not disappear even after pressing OK.
EmoBoiix3 said:
...you idiot .
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Never expected more than this from the master troll in here. Or does your sister(s) hacked your XDA account again? Because I myself have a hard time to explain to my virtual little AND big sisters what CM or AOSP even is (let alone AOKP)! ...
Does it make any sense to you:
Requesting write acces to Mc CM9 github.
Edit the readme file.
Asking for help to compile AOKP in the Mc CM9 development thread?
If you don't really seriously want to work on CM9 and contribute bugfixes, than I guess you wanted only to get on the list of the new superheroes? Congrats: You've done it good!
And if I do remember it correctly, you did even write a HOWTO to compile AOSP/AOKP somewhere yourself, didn't you? Putting the fact aside, that I did the little mistake about your request with the Mc CM9 build itself, my conclusive statement still holds. What are you so mad about then?
Either way, I'm wishing you all the best luck to successfully compile AOKP or CM9 ICS builts and share it again by a nice noob proven tutorial (Don't forget to make proper credits to MacLaw and buy him a new PC by then!). ...
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Never expected more than this from the master troll in here. Or does your sister(s) hacked your XDA account again? Because I myself have a hard time to explain to my virtual little AND big sisters what CM or AOSP even is (let alone AOKP)! ...
Does it make any sense to you:
Requesting write acces to Mc CM9 github.
Edit the readme file.
Asking for help to compile AOKP in the Mc CM9 development thread?
If you don't really seriously want to work on CM9 and contribute bugfixes, than I guess you wanted only to get on the list of the new superheroes? Congrats: You've done it good!
And if I do remember it correctly, you did even write a HOWTO to compile AOSP/AOKP somewhere yourself, didn't you? Putting the fact aside, that I did the little mistake about your request with the Mc CM9 build itself, my conclusive statement still holds. What are you so mad about then?
Either way, I'm wishing you all the best luck to successfully compile AOKP or CM9 ICS builts and share it again by a nice noob proven tutorial (Don't forget to make proper credits to MacLaw and buy him a new PC by then!). ...
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Well,You had a hard time in explaining even AOSP...that shows your high level of intellingence.
And if you are sooooo intelligent then y dont you try to port ICS yourself?Oooooo I forgot,you are too busy with your investigation about maclaw and his port..!!
Well atleast he isnt trolling like you and trying something.Get a life mr.tossan..will ya??
er...informative? CHILL GUYS... or Maybe our mr Tossan can help contributing on cm9...?
Well , I'm sorry that you didn't even try to start on the entire AOSP thing .
I'm sorry you didn't venture out to try new experiences .
I'm sorry that you didn't fail hard like I did .
I'm sorry that I didn't make any good ROM .
Herpderp Defy.
EmoBoiix3 said:
Well , I'm sorry that you didn't even try to start on the entire AOSP thing .
I'm sorry you didn't venture out to try new experiences .
I'm sorry that you didn't fail hard like I did .
I'm sorry that I didn't make any good ROM .
Herpderp Defy.
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Sorry for what Matt? >.< Trolls will keep on trolling,they are better to be ignored.Some act like they know everything,while all they know is just talk about stuff that anyone can attain with the help of Google...
Shall we begin and reiterate the purpose and meaning of this thread again?
The title says:
[Q] About Maclaws CM9 beta4
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The open questions are:
IceCreamSammich said:
when I read through the github and look at the closed issues and still open , i see there are some closed issues that still remain as unsolved in your current beta? is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems? i like to see that your building a CM9 rom for our ace, but i wasnt the slightest bit impressed with beta4, the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
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Now ask yourself about the contribution you have made since entering this thread. All I can see is the denial of crude facts. If you don't have any constructive contribution to share, then just keep it like the monkey, who does not want to say anything. Then nobody could ever deduce from that to your level of skill.
And here is a very hard task for you to solve: Which of this three cute fellows does represents you best?
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tossan said:
Shall we begin and reiterate the purpose and meaning of this thread again?
The title says:
The open questions are:
Now ask yourself about the contribution you have made since entering this thread. All I can see is the denial of crude facts. If you don't have any constructive contribution to share, then just keep it like the monkey, who does not want to say anything. Then nobody could ever deduce from that to your level of skill.
And here is a very hard task for you to solve: Which of this three cute fellows does represents you best?
「非礼勿视，非礼勿听，非礼勿言，非礼勿动。」
「fei li wu shi, fei li wu ting, fei li wu yan, fei li wu dong.」
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I'm pretty sure no-one called the police?? I didn't
AOKP 4 LYF
scoffyburito said:
I'm pretty sure no-one called the police?? I didn't
AOKP 4 LYF
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... by the way i think our Mr Tossan got a point here.. he just explaining the issues here. no harm done.... chill guys.. all of u are awesome developers.
zaqwankira said:
... by the way i think our Mr Tossan got a point here.. he just explaining the issues here. no harm done.... chill guys.. all of u are awesome developers.
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Yeah but tossans posts hurt my eyes (xda app)
AOKP 4 LYF
XD....laugh hard for the monkeys
news about 0 dbm 97 asu signal?
我什么都不管了。你要怎样办就怎么办吧。
I applaud you if you know what it means without using a translator .
And I mean what I typed .
Herpderp Defy.
EmoBoiix3 said:
我什么都不管了。你要怎样办就怎么办吧。
I applaud you if you know what it means without using a translator .
And I mean what I typed .
Herpderp Defy.
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So that's Chinese? I'm doing katakana and kanji at the moment and I can spot out a few characters.
AOKP 4 LYF
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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this... o.. maybe not...
44.44% would rather have one single GingerBread ROM over anything else, excellent!
Keep the vote's rolling, let's find out what people really want!
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delete this
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
MrHassell said:
how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this...
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What?-....-........
Delete lame 'roms' - firmware stools
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
Mirthel said:
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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...or not...
he`s half right about what he wrote.
obviously the ones and only that made a "almost fully" rom for ours x10, was/is Z, J and T.
but one interesting thing is. a few months ago, when i see this so called 2.1 roms never read anything about it. and they were called "rom".
i give that opinion on those times...nobody give a **** about that...
but if we go further, they don`t do any roms aswell. they pick some here, some there, mix all together and...hey, it worked...great.
the ONLY way we can have a TRUE custom rom is when we crack the f..k`in BL, untill now...
my understanding is:
this so called roms are...mod roms.
but thats just me
I think the Z J and trip are really developer.THX them
MrHassell said:
Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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Well I can understand your point of view, even if I don't share it. Giving the people possibilities to choose from isn't the worst thing. And by modding one "ROM" in many ways, a lot of heads think about solutions for bugs and problems. In that way it actually is in the name of progress
Regarding the word ROM: I think most xda users are used to have ROMs for their phones and since the different firmwares we have for the X10 behave like a ROM in most aspects, it would be more confusing to call them firmwares, even if it is more correct...
Too funny
Honestly, I really kicked a hornets nest here - haha - Wow!
It's not really about names, firmwares and roms, apples and oranges etc.. I'm just really perplexed by the sheer volume of unfinished projects some blatantly ripped without any credit to the authors and more than anything, the sheer uselessness of the majority.
It's great that people want to contribute something, so how about downloading the favorable 'rom' (if it makes you feel cool.. or whatever) and make your contribution and then ONE BETTER, instead of uploading the whole schamozzle of mish mash..
Just the mods' that matter? I.E; Changed the Framework-Res.apk and a few apps, then do what Sempeternal does and release an update.zip! - Include screen shots.. but the whole firmware for a theme.. seem's overkill..
Put this in context, not naming names here but I downloaded a GingerBread a while back and it had one single app.. aside from that it was a virgin clone of another guy's rom - with no credit or even value... and it's nearly every day I'm seeing someone pop up with another CM or something and it's actually.. distracting.
Personally I'm 150% behind the work of Z, J and Sempiternal (my favorite theme is the new HC) which looks awesome on any GB modified firmware, even on Eclair and Froyo.
That is what I'm talking about! - Semp really knows what time it is and releases amazing work, free of charge. Best of all across any flavour, without any nonsense! All killer - no filler
Ginger!
i would say gingerbread and a cyanogen brew (which J would start to cook up soon^^)
i mean, who doesn't want the latest version of the most powerful android rom?
Since this is a thread opened for discussion, allow me to do exactly that. The below is strictly my own opinion and not a rant and/or an attack aimed at anyone.
I'm extremely disappointed at the way things are moving in the X10 Dev section. There are dozens of unnecessary half cooked 'ROMs' that're of no practical use. The blind self-righteous and immature dev worshipping present in the thread is shockingly mind numbing. Ask questions, even valid ones, and you're swarmed by these retarded sheep who respond back with insults and personal digs. One user even told me to go buy another X10 when I supported another user who posted a question for the Dev. about the the newer basebands, especially since the Dev himself mentioned that the newer baseband support may [or may not] come. Regardless, the question was for the Dev. and not the sheep.
Just when I feel consoled read something that hints at *some* progress being made with the current firmware, I find myself reading another post, after a while, which takes on a completely different direction. The firmware suddenly gets dropped in favor of a newer/<some popular ROM> which, then, necessitates the Dev. to re-engage himself with the long list of functions and features that aren't working. In essence it means, we're back to ground zero. Why is that necessary? It's a fact that we aren't going to see a 100% functional port because of the locked bootloader - so wouldn't it make more sense to concentrate on just 1 firmware and make it as perfect as possible, with the omission of things that wouldn't be working due to the locked down bootloader?
I sincerely think we need just *2* FIRMWARE threads in the Dev. area - one for 2.3.x and one for 2.2.x. The CM additions can be easily had by installing the CM Settings app, the themes etc. on top of whichever edition one chooses. There's no need to have a complete 'ROM' uploaded with the same critical and few non critical issues.
I should reiterate, the above is simply my own opinion and is in no way a rant or an attack on anyone.
Yes too many rom. Devs should work together to make a perfect room than every dev make their own rom better.
There are developers... and chefs... devs develop the software. Cooks or chefs take ingredients or parts of software and mix or cook them. If you have been a long member of xda you would know that this has always been how it is for EVERY phone that is on this site... but more so this thread propably should be moved to a different section.
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It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
People on here seem to have the mistaken impression that if devs came together we would have a perfect rom instead of several roms that have bugs... That is not the case. We would just have less choice, the bugs would still remain, things like the camcorder and camera issues don't just get fixed overnight. It's nice to see peoples own twist on things, sad to see some people don't appreciate this..
cobrato said:
It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
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Agreed with u...
+1
I personally would like the developers and the site to do the following.
1. Sticky the First Rom post from each guy, and only allow him to update it and a second post.
2. All comments, questions regarding it should be in a separate thread of the same title appended with [Discussion], which should be culled (or have a strike through put the heading) from the system the moment the dev releases a new version.
I for one, can not go through hundreds or thousands of posts most of which are not relevant any longer to the current version of the firmware/baseband whatever update. IT's very intimidating, and onerous on the reader- even professional IT people. I can't imagine what someone from a non-technical bent sent here by someone - "Hey you can get an update for that at XDA!" thinks when they encounter some of these 2,000+ plus postings.
The developers should take a bit of responsibility and update the first or second posts with any new issues that crop up from the discussions. You should not have to read 50 posts in to a thread to find out that there is a step missing in the install or a new bug has been confirmed. I've burned two X10's myself due to bugs and unclear instructions that were later corrected.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to support with money these guys, even though I have not actually put a 'custom' firmware onto any of my phones. I have put/used the tools that have been provided to do other things like JIT and rooting/updating SE firmware. I am looking forward to seeing a fully functional update to give me some of the things that are not available in 2.1 so I can get better applications. I think that not having some items like Hotspot, Tether and even 16m color on the display which require kernel updates are not that important since tether/hotspot can be added via applications in the market.
I don't think there can be a better example of why we don't need random people come up with ROMs [they're firmwares, NOT ROMs]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11669817&postcount=97
In that thread, the main issue is not about giving or not giving credits, it's about calling oneself a 'Chef' and delivering half baked results which ultimately causes grief when users don't receive solutions to their legitimate queries/firmware related problems.
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
servergod said:
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
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I would also like to take this moment to point out that if you have an "alpha 2" or "beta 1" of CM7 on your Nook, it's probably NOT a leaked version of the release that Celtic, Gonce and Indirect have in testing right now. It's almost guaranteed to be a modified version of the initial alpha, which means it would still have the bugs that could temporarily brick your Nook Tablet or possibly new ones that could brick the device permanently.
Don't go looking for these ROMs, they're fakes and could be very dangerous.
Hi,
could you link us to the kernel source on github? I'd like a source to at least pull from for initial BFS testing, and since it was released the source should be publicly available.
Thanks in advance!
Mike_IronFist said:
I would also like to take this moment to point out that if you have an "alpha 2" or "beta 1" of CM7 on your Nook, it's probably NOT a leaked version of the release that Celtic, Gonce and Indirect have in testing right now. It's almost guaranteed to be a modified version of the initial alpha, which means it would still have the bugs that could temporarily brick your Nook Tablet or possibly new ones that could brick the device permanently.
Don't go looking for these ROMs, they're fakes and could be very dangerous.
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Thanks Mike,
It's even tighter than that actually the current version hasn't been given to anybody outside Team-B so that’s Goncezilla and Myself. We decided that during our re-development of it we would keep it to ourselves until it was ready for testing. So only the 2 developers have a current version at this very moment in time. Not even the team, of testers have a copy yet.
So like Mike said, if you've received a version that says it's a new one IT'S NOT it's probably a copy of the very first original (and only) public release that we pulled that may or may not have been altered in some way. It's still going to have all the bugs so it's still going to cause problems for the user. I really do suggest people just wait that little bit longer. It will be worth your wait
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admiralspark said:
Hi,
could you link us to the kernel source on github? I'd like a source to at least pull from for initial BFS testing, and since it was released the source should be publicly available.
Thanks in advance!
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The source of the original release was made available. Everything has been pulled again now though because obviously it didn't work and was unsafe. Once we make a final public release the source will be posted up too
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servergod said:
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
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Lol, nice little rant there, too much to drink before bed ? lol
servergod said:
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
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The only cranky person as far as I can tell is you.
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
What is your point?
servergod said:
Ok , there have been a lot of questions about the initial release of CM7 alpha and it's pull from public domain.
IT WAS AN ALPHA!!!
We all want it, I have it and no, I will not share, stop asking, and if you have it, please don't give it out.
Yes, the OS is open source, but the development and distribution of it for the NT, at least the team that I am working with, it's version is not ready to be made public.
The NT is a closed device that needs to be further reverse/engineered with a small group that is willing to brick their device.
Are you willing to take that chance?
Even if you are, it's a unanimous decision among those that are trying to bring it safely to the masses that another public release is not ready yet.
Please hold on for another release and don't fall for chinese or russian imitations that are available.
Where are you going to get support comrade tsung?
lol
If you do use a so called "alpha 2" or "beta1" not from XDA and you are in a pickle, refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199361&postcount=2
and hope for the best.
So all in all, be nice to the devs and quit asking when it will be ready and be patient.
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Do people make threads and posts like this solely on the hope that others will thank them (i.e. to increase their "Thanks" count). I don't get why people thank others for making statements that aren't helpful and are geared at...nothing?
pepi4 said:
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
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hahaha now i'm cranky
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downsay said:
Do people make threads and posts like this solely on the hope that others will thank them (i.e. to increase their "Thanks" count). I don't get why people thank others for making statements that aren't helpful and are geared at...nothing?
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its a VERY good thing that this thread is in the GENERAL forum then, where things can be posted just because, and talked about, just because. where they don't really have to be helpful or insightful but amusing and entertaining or your reply complaining about unhelpful threads would be entirely inappropriate.
pepi4 said:
I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
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Good luck with that lol!
Ours didn't work great initially do had to be pulled before it did any further harm to peoples property. Alpha or not we didn't want it damaging peoples NT's,
That’s why the newest version will be getting tested by professionals first, that way if there a major buck that bricks their tablets they'll be able to unbrick and fix the problem!
LIES
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I set down last night and wrote my own CM7. Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky
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i haven't heard that much bull**** since the 9th grade.
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i haven't heard that much bull**** since the 9th grade.
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NAW man, i aint mad, i just find it funny how you lie like that. Cuz honestly, unless you have no life...
that is not possible. but you must
be mad
cuz on your original BS post,
it said...
Works great and I not sharing it because I'm cranky.
(if you are cranky, just do the herb) >bob marley style
Haha, no, jokes aside, i mean just the kernel amd not the aosp source. See....the gplv2 states that once the kernel is released, even if binaries are pulled again, the source code must be made available to the public for the duration.
NOT trying to start a fight, i just want to have a patched bfs kernel ready for launch.
My advice for those who can't wait patiently for a tested cm7 rom should throw their NT on the ground, jump up and down on it multiple times, hit with baseball bat, and then walk away. At that point go to your local nook distributor and buy a nook color and load cm7 or cm9, then maybe you would be happy. But, in reality, some people would still find something to complain about. It will be here soon enough, until then read a book or play angry birds, just quit asking for something that you are not going to get and let the devs do their work in peace....
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My advice for those who can't wait patiently for a tested cm7 rom should throw their NT on the ground, jump up and down on it multiple times, hit with baseball bat, and then walk away. At that point go to your local nook distributor and buy a nook color and load cm7 or cm9, then maybe you would be happy. But, in reality, some people would still find something to complain about. It will be here soon enough, until then read a book or play angry birds, just quit asking for something that you are not going to get and let the devs do their work in peace....
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Don't do that, I'll buy it for $2.46 USD.
admiralspark said:
Haha, no, jokes aside, i mean just the kernel amd not the aosp source. See....the gplv2 states that once the kernel is released, even if binaries are pulled again, the source code must be made available to the public for the duration.
NOT trying to start a fight, i just want to have a patched bfs kernel ready for launch.
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How about you step down until we have a properly functioning kernel and you can patch it right before we release or something? You really don't need the kernel without rom to be honest.
Yes I'm a noob, and proud of it. I have been around long enough to install the first root from Indirect. I've bricked 3 times and recovered. - just a little history
My thought on the ongoing "can I get it now?"
If you don't trust the DEVs enough to wait when they are trying to help and deliver something working and safe, then you should not trust them and install the software when it is ready.
Flame on!
Mike_IronFist said:
I would also like to take this moment to point out that if you have an "alpha 2" or "beta 1" of CM7 on your Nook, it's probably NOT a leaked version of the release that Celtic, Gonce and Indirect have in testing right now. It's almost guaranteed to be a modified version of the initial alpha, which means it would still have the bugs that could temporarily brick your Nook Tablet or possibly new ones that could brick the device permanently.
Don't go looking for these ROMs, they're fakes and could be very dangerous.
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Thank you for your support.
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I can see that this thread is only going to go downhill from here! Just opening a thread to brag is just not on.
Good Evening All
I know this might be discussed before in few threads but the reason I'm posting this thread is to have the answers from the developers themselves about the difficulties they're facing to port Sense UI ( 4.0 for example ) to our beloved SGS 2 and why their is no attempt to do it.
Updates 24-05-2012
Developers are going crazy
check these websites:-
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533931
I believe we have a great code reverse engineers as well as great kernel developers and plenty of resources out there ,,, what we are waiting for ?!!
Please devs kindly give it a try and help us,,,,
Updates 16-05-2012 by Quebe2 and Coenjte44 big thanks to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
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Swamp goblin a great developer is working in the shadows to create an amazing HTC sense based SGS II ROM !!!!
Now in Nexus S development thread, two developers namely Qube2 and swamp goblin are working so hard to port Sense 4.0 !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502895
Qube2 did successfully port Sense 2.1 to Nexus S !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490709
Mkalter from SGS 1 thread is trying his best to port to SGS !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1593939
I believe that our SGS II is the most device world wildly used. Also it has better hardware and better developer community.
What I need is the developers' comments, not only the ones who are interested on Sense UI but also the ones who are not but they have their theories in which they explain why porting Sense UI is difficult, non achievable or waste of time.
Thanx
Sorry for the bad grammer. English isn't really my native language.
P.S. For users like me, respectfully don't flood this thread with posts that won't answer my question in details ( like; if you want sense UI buy HTC device !! ). I need the developers to kindly gather here and post their opinions, experiences and may be their pre-alphas
My Question was moved to Q/A subforum ,, I did post it in general subforum intentionally because of it is really hot area and it may attract developers. I hope it won't be got lost here. Thanx Crachel
To be honest, most developers don't browse around here (as they are busy with their own thing)... but testing Sense UI myself on several phones.. it's laggy and a resource hog. Sure it looks nice, but it's not better than a few others (especially since ICS)- and most often people want things to be more speedy.
Perhaps a hardcore developer will come and give you more details on what they like or don't like about it. Good luck.
PS
Apex launcher fast and smooth
Most of the users here want stock as possible. I dont know why. I study now android development and yes i want Sense UI to at my Phone because i used HTC HD2 with RafDroids HD revolution it had sense. So give a lil bit at any day at any time there will be a sense SGS 2... But Stock ICS with GO Launcher rocks too :-D
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Because it's crap & unnecessary, as Cyberboob more politely intimated than I did.
I think it's down to purely pragmatic reasons.
Say a dev owns a HTC device. What's more practical for him/her (never know, female devs could exist..)? Modify Sense on a phone he/she owns, or decide that TouchWiz is great and spend hours trying to port that instead?
Ergo the same holds true for devs whom own the SGS2.
As cyberboob said, you're unlikely to see any devs on this subforum, and in my opinion they don't need to explain or justify any decision they make anyway - their work, their choice. It's not a democracy here, and that's the way it should be.
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
I know that sense is just like any other UI out there but I think weather, twitter and Facebook implementation as well as the animations of HTC sense are far better than go , apex and other UI launchers.
Now being laggy or buggy is something I really wanna wait to comment on but first we wanna test it.
I'm resisting to buy HTC one X and to give up on my SGS II because I believe in that our developers are capable to create a powerful and better performing android OS on SGS II that with HTC sense UI would be better than any HTC device.
Back to main subject we need developer's opinion in porting HTC sense UI based roms to our SGS II.
I wish moderators here would kindly move this thread to any subforum in which devs are more likely to see and comment or may be to contribute to this subject.
Thanx all for replying.
There was a dev thread...it got closed due to spam posts
[PROJECT] [PORT] HTC Sense UI 3.0 [ WORK IN PROGRESS ]
Hahaha I did.
Congrats on the 1000th mate *applauds*
B3311 said:
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
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The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
frankimm said:
The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
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Yeah I'll surely donate but we need somebody who actually start porting it. Not only me you will see a bunch of people who are willing/will donate to this project.
Peace.
In my opinion sense 3 is ugly and Sense 4 isn't any diffrent from fror exsample go launcher
Sent from my sgs2 running cm9 using xda app
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
Oweida said:
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
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Judged by the number of Sense threads two points are plain one HTC users want it on SGS2 and two nearly a year down the line and it must be to difficult to port .
Which points to the simple fact that SGS2 devs dont want to port it or have found to many stumbling blocks to make it worth while .Probably the later is the big reason why no sense .
jje
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
Plenty of devs read Q&A.
It's a crap idea as has already been said Think about it. You're a dev...you have a job, a family, other interests. You have a choice say, between developing/maintaining something like a kernel or a rom (or an app even) which hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of people will appreciate, use & offer feedback on, which will be an ongoing thing...
Or you port a UI from another device to please a couple of dozen fanboys of said different device which is both ugly (just my opinion) & consumes a crapload of device resources/isn't 'efficient'.
I know what I'd be doing.
Oweida said:
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
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Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
B3311 said:
Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
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I really feel sad about this. The good thing is HTC has released it's miracle HTC one X which has both powerful hardware and amazing software and may be I will buy it
Thanx All for replying.
Peace
Please Forum moderator move this thread to the discussion sub forum ,,,,
Peace
Please administrators/moderators move this topic to general forum , maybe it will get somebody's attention.
yes most the sgs2 users need sense 4 on their sgs2 i also want to see sense 4 on my sgs2
Cyanogenmod 9 Codename: Nebula for the YP-G1
Code:
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/
Hey guys here's what you have been waiting for. The unofficial official release of CM9 for the Samsung Galaxy Player/S Wifi 4.0 (a.k.a YP-G1). The TeamSupernova is proud to be the first of porting it.(with some exterior help) It is built on the latest commits from the stable CM9 4.0.4 source tree. This rom isn't different from any other stock CM9 but it's more streamlined and it's more official to release it like this.
Here's the context of how we have made it possible (thanks Hanthesolo for this story):
Firstly, excuse my cheesy biblical writing, I just have always wanted to write something in that format .
In the beginning (march 2012), there was hanthesolo. He saw the Galaxy Player forums, and all that he saw was good. This man started creating new work for the Gplayer forums, a and gained a small following. There was just one issue that concerned him: NO ICS!
In light of this, this man created a thread, to collect all ICS development, into one easy-to-read forum. Other began to follow him, zaclimon, Ijimaniac, and several others. Ideas flew fast and furious, but hope was waning quickly. A kernel would have to be created from scratch, a monumental task that had not been undertaken by any man so far.
All was quiet for awhile, and people began to slowly fade out, until only hanthesolo and zaclimon remained, slowly trading ideas and guesses over several weeks. Then a new disciple arrived: neyodmium. This korean (?) developer brought a different kind of kernel experience to the trio, and development began in earnest, with zaclimon and neyodmium trading work, while hanthesolo contributed where he could. One unsurmountable issue arose: this magnificient kernel, the likes of which had never lit up these forums before, would merely boot into recovery, not into Android.
Then Oisis came around, hearing our desperate cries for help. Like a moses, he guided his flock in the right direction, squashing issue after issue, until a monumental day arrived: August 13, 2012. On this day, ICS was finally created in Cyanogen's own image, and it was good.
Then increased development began, with hanthesolo squashing CM9 bugs, while zaclimon, neyodmium, and Oisis working feverishly on the kernel.
But an issue occurred, a wrench in the works. Thine enemy's name is GL, SuperNOva. GL would not cooperate, acting as a barrier between usable ICS, and frustrated efforts to fix it. But one day, the magical variable was flipped, and the builds booted! About this time there was a github mishap involving a bad I9000 push that stopped things for about a week, but that's another story.
What happens next? I dunno, but I will update this story when it happens .
NOTE: This does NOT represent anyone's political or religious standpoint, or the way anyone is viewed. It was created as a humorous way to explain our situation to users.
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What's working:
Boot
Wifi
GPS
ADB
Accelerometer
Sound (voodoo module is included inside the kernel)
H/W acceleration (75/80% complete, video acceleration missing)
Deep sleep (MUCH better battery life than older ICS builds)
Native USB mount storage
FM Radio (download the spirit fm radio app from the store)
OC up to 1.2 gHz.
You tell me
What's not working:
Bluetooth
Camera (rendering is pretty crappy)
Recovery (well it does work but it can't reboot correctly to the system)
US home button (I do have a workaround for the moment)
Built-in CPU tuner (for OC/UC)
You tell me
Changelog:
Code:
Beta 1:
Initial release
Instructions
Note: Please backup your efs in case of something goes wrong (the zip should backup it but we're never too sure) To do so execute this command:
Code:
dd if=/dev/block/stl3 of=/sdcard/efs.rfs
You will need heimdall for this, if you don't know how to use it here's a guide on how-to:
DISCLAIMER: if you don't know how to use heimdall to reflash to stock (if needed) then you shouldn't flash this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922461
1. Unzip the package which contains the zip and the boot.img.
2. Put the rom zip into the root of the sdcard.
3. Flash the rom using CWM. If you don't have it, please flash a custom kernel .(I recommend terrasilent)
4. When you're in CWM6, reflash the rom again.
5. After the second flash, flash the gapps zip. (if you have it)
6. Wipe your data.
7. Reboot into download mode and flash a GB kernel. (preferably the one you had before)
8. Reboot again into download mode after getting into CWM5.
9. Flash the boot.img included in the package by using heimdall at the KERNEL partition.
10. It should reboot and you will have your bit of Icy sandwich!!
NB: If you want the soft keys, (regardless of the reasons, RECOMMENDED FOR US PLAYERS, download the zip for the keys and flash it over CWM)
Here's the instructions in a more concrete way (Thanks Daniel644 for the video)
For those having problems with the encryption thing, here's the fix (Thanks Goldflame09)
For those if you who install and get the encryption error, follow these steps and it will work.
1) Hit reset tablet on the error page.
2) Go into recovery
3) Wipe data/factory reset.
4) Reboot system now.
5) As soon as the screen shuts off, go into download.
6) Flash terra silent kernel.
7) Let it boot into recovery and ignore all the errors.
8) Go to advanced and reboot download.
9) Flash the boot.img again.
10) Should be all set as long as you don't go into recovery.
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Sources
Because we need to comply with the licenses and if you want to use our sources for something else here they are:
Device tree: https://github.com/TeamSupernovaSGP/android_device_samsung_ypg1
Kernel source: https://github.com/TeamSupernovaSGP/android_kernel_samsung_ypg1
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Samsung
Google
TeamHacksung
Pawitp (without him, ICS wouldn't have been what it is now big props to him!!)
Jt1134
Cyanogenmod
Supermaster34
Tdmcode
Downloads
B1
Gapps
Gapps Download
Software Key Mod
Soft Key Download (On-Screen buttons)
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reserved, just in case .
reserved (watever that means)
but can i be a tester?
the playa! said:
reserved (watever that means)
but can i be a tester?
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reserved means that I reserved the post in case I have more to put into the thread (han made it too so idk why you put reserved too )
Also there's already the beta 1 of ICS for the 4.0 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668&page=113
zaclimon said:
reserved means that I reserved the post in case I have more to put into the thread (han made it too so idk why you put reserved too )
Also there's already the beta 1 of ICS for the 4.0 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668&page=113
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i didnt know that...
So, is this going to be apart of supernova, or your own separate project?
Can't wait.
iJimaniac said:
So, is this going to be apart of supernova, or your own separate project?
Can't wait.
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You'll see.
zaclimon said:
You'll see.
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in how long?
the playa! said:
in how long?
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No ETA's
Seriously, I think there are way to many s flying around
iJimaniac said:
No ETA's
Seriously, I think there are way to many s flying around
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yeah, ikr?
thats sad though.. no ETA's.. watever then.
Yes, no ETA's. Me, zaclimon and Oisis are all balacing ery busy schedules to get this to you guys as fast as possible. Me and zac stay up until almost midnight many nights testing and developing, and Oisis has to be up a 2-3 in the morning JUST to be able to talk to us, not to mention having to balance a VERY busy school schedule, our individual social lives, etc.
So please stop asking us for ETA's, or if this will be fixed by X, or that by Y, because we're developing this for the benefit of the community. We're not getting paid, or gaining any tax breaks, we're just a couple of guys who have decided to unlock the complete potential of this device, and if I do say so myself, I think we're doing a pretty dang good job on it, all things considered.
My rant is done, but guys, please understand what we're going through to be able to get this to you.
hanthesolo said:
Yes, no ETA's. Me, zaclimon and Oisis are all balacing ery busy schedules to get this to you guys as fast as possible. Me and zac stay up until almost midnight many nights testing and developing, and Oisis has to be up a 2-3 in the morning JUST to be able to talk to us, not to mention having to balance a VERY busy school schedule, our individual social lives, etc.
So please stop asking us for ETA's, or if this will be fixed by X, or that by Y, because we're developing this for the benefit of the community. We're not getting paid, or gaining any tax breaks, we're just a couple of guys who have decided to unlock the complete potential of this device, and if I do say so myself, I think we're doing a pretty dang good job on it, all things considered.
My rant is done, but guys, please understand what we're going through to be able to get this to you.
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i understand. sorry about all my fuss that i created.
please forgive me.
the playa! said:
i understand. sorry about all my fuss that i created.
please forgive me.
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No problem, it's not directly directed at you, it's just directed at the entire community. It's an unfortunate fact that most people these days forget how much time devs spend working on this stuff for them, which is understandable, since we don't share the development process with you guys. Just keep in mind that it's normally a lot more time-consuming to accomplish a task then we let on.
hanthesolo said:
Yes, no ETA's. Me, zaclimon and Oisis are all balacing ery busy schedules to get this to you guys as fast as possible. Me and zac stay up until almost midnight many nights testing and developing, and Oisis has to be up a 2-3 in the morning JUST to be able to talk to us, not to mention having to balance a VERY busy school schedule, our individual social lives, etc.
So please stop asking us for ETA's, or if this will be fixed by X, or that by Y, because we're developing this for the benefit of the community. We're not getting paid, or gaining any tax breaks, we're just a couple of guys who have decided to unlock the complete potential of this device, and if I do say so myself, I think we're doing a pretty dang good job on it, all things considered.
My rant is done, but guys, please understand what we're going through to be able to get this to you.
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hanthesolo said:
No problem, it's not directly directed at you, it's just directed at the entire community. It's an unfortunate fact that most people these days forget how much time devs spend working on this stuff for them, which is understandable, since we don't share the development process with you guys. Just keep in mind that it's normally a lot more time-consuming to accomplish a task then we let on.
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Rectum dictis! :good:
(Sounds dirty, right? It's actually Latin for, "Well said!")
Just thought I'd brighten the mood with some humor.
well this time, i think asking ETA is less reproachable. The team or zaclimon individually already posted the new thread about the coming ROM.
It's like advertising Avengers 2 is coming out but not telling people when it will be available.
it's natural for people to question when is it actually going to come out.
I think it's different from the typical ETA inquiry that i usually encounter.
stylemate said:
well this time, i think asking ETA is less reproachable. The team or zaclimon individually already posted the new thread about the coming ROM.
It's like advertising Avengers 2 is coming out but not telling people when it will be available.
it's natural for people to question when is it actually going to come out.
I think it's different from the typical ETA inquiry that i usually encounter.
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No, sir, I do believe ANY ETA inquiry is against the forum rules.
XDA does not operate like the movie industry, nor like any commercial industry for that matter.
Outside of XDA, teasers and release announcements lead to inquiries, which may or may not be answered. Within XDA, teasers, promotions, and/or announcements are for the sole purpose of notification only. When the project is ready, it is ready. No questions asked.
Higgs_Boson said:
No, sir, I do believe ANY ETA inquiry is against the forum rules.
XDA does not operate like the movie industry, nor like any commercial industry for that matter.
Outside of XDA, teasers and release announcements lead to inquiries, which may or may not be answered. Within XDA, teasers, promotions, and/or announcements are for the sole purpose of notification only. When the project is ready, it is ready. No questions asked.
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As I think more, I'm not sure if the question"(coming soon) in how long"? can be even considered as ETA inquiry. (connotatively)
There was no mention of WIP nor that the work is not complete yet.
In CM9's Camera's case, I'm also opposed to ETA inquiries.
People know that the work is in progress and the time required is indefinite.
But in this case, there was no hint that the work was unfinished nor about the uncertainty of completion.
zaclimon said that it's coming soon.
In Supermaster's thread about Camera WIP, none says "coming soon"
I think the term "coming soon" should be used more carefully because it means that the producer is somewhat ready and definite that the work is going to be finished and released on the specific time.
and i don't think that asking when the producer would wish to release is the "ETA inquiry" that people get attentive of.
I'm not trying to provoke any fight in this forum, I don't want to flame anyone and cause trouble.
I admire you guys' work because I'm a complete noob.
Of course i've never been developer and never felt how it would be to be asked of ETA.
But I just want people to ease up the tension in this forum.
Peace.
My apologies if my words appeared as flaming. Never were my intentions to flame you, I only wanted to point out that XDA is a not-for-profit forum/project, and all of the work that the developers do here is on a goodwill basis.
Those who ask for ETA's do not realize how much work it takes for a GOODWILL developer to manage life, work/school, and development on their own dime and time.
It's like a homeless person coming into your house, just after you've worked a full day and managed family and other obligations. You've just started cooking dinner, but you're all ready stressed and tired from a full day when the homeless person asks, "Hey, bud! When's dinner going to be ready? I'm hungry! C'mon Hurry up!"
Just sayin'.
Our phone's forum is BLEEDING.
You may wonder, why? Our developers are getting suspended, our ROM's are getting closed, our kernels has been removed, And our forum is starting to burn.
First of all i wanna talk about Zonik and his great work...
As you know he made a CYANOGENMOD 13 port to our sweet phones. Oh and also he made PBS which i am running as a daily driver.
And guess what? They had a kernel made by DJ_Steve!
And guess what? It was unstable? It was bricking phones? NO!
IT WAS NON-GPL compliant!!
And after they found out that the kernel was non-GPL compliant, they had to close the thread.
Ok the kernel was closed and links were removed...
End?
Nope.
Soon one great guy named @#Henkate found that the PBS and Cyanogenmod 13 IS USING THAT KERNEL.
He instantly reported the thread i guess and soon the mods were informed...
And guess what...
They closed the threads. They closed the ROM's that have been popular. PBS now has over 45,000+ views and CyanogenMod 13 has got over 50,000+VIEWS..
And now let's talk about Performance boost speed (PBS)
It is the current fastest Galaxy J5 ROM!!
With so many tweaks, even i am running it as a daily driver...
And who needs to ruin it? Mods and one guy who is acting like a mod! Except you @sawdoctor you are the best
In PBS the developer is trying to max the speed out of this device!
And the DJ_Steve's kernel is making that ROM fast!
Again, guy who is acting like a mod needs to report that ROM and inform all the moderators.
And Zonik is the great man who tries to make our device faster and even better!
He even wanted to help me to boost my ROM what i wanted to create, but in the end i just didn't want to do it because i knew that PBS is the best modified stock ROM in the moment..
(Who doesn't believe me i can send screenshots of our chat in facebook :l)
I am just going insane!
I can't take this!
I am quitting XDA for a while.. I can't do anything if the great stuff is removed...
I am just protesting for this!
Thanks to everyone for being here and making our device XDA supported. I greatly appreciate that.
I'm out.
m̙̖̙̯ͤͤ̏̽̚͠o̧͕̬̖͌͐̈́͛̀d͎͔͗̾̂s̜̪̒ͫͩ̋ͮ͛ ͋͑́ã̴͚̓̑̊ͣr͈ͪͯ͐̌͞e̳̟̻̝̟̅̔ͩ̊ͩ̚ ͚ͣ͜l̤̫̮͙̣ͦ͛͂̉ͅö͈́͂̂̿͠s̫̀i̙̜̗̮̞ͭ̐ͦ̐̽n̛̺̣̼̰̪̞̔̍̄̚̚g̥ͬͮͣͅ ̆̀̓͠b͉̘̙͉̍̽ͦͦ̾͢r͐̎̑ͤ̈̚͞ä̝̤̙̘̤͙̿i̠̹̓ͥ̅͆ͬ͡n͚̳͛͢.̷̗̹̇͒ͭ́͆.͎ͮͮ̆ͬͫ
Be gone!
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#Henkate said:
Be gone!
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I am sorry to say this but i think u should not be posting anything here or any other thread on J5 forums in which u r mentioned or quoted. Your reply will cause more anger and rage to flow across this forums because we are in such a situation. I hope u understand what i am trying to say. :good:
KingWilliams said:
I am sorry to say this but i think u should not be posting anything here or any other thread on J5 forums in which u r mentioned or quoted. Your reply will cause more anger and rage to flow across this forums because we are in such a situation. I hope u understand what i am trying to say. :good:
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I think your message was meant to OP.
You are the ones who are continuing this nonsense.
Telepracity said:
Our phone's forum is BLEEDING.
You may wonder, why? Our developers are getting suspended, our ROM's are getting closed, our kernels has been removed, And our forum is starting to burn.
First of all i wanna talk about Zonik and his great work...
As you know he made a CYANOGENMOD 13 port to our sweet phones. Oh and also he made PBS which i am running as a daily driver.
And guess what? They had a kernel made by DJ_Steve!
And guess what? It was unstable? It was bricking phones? NO!
IT WAS NON-GPL compliant!!
And after they found out that the kernel was non-GPL compliant, they had to close the thread.
Ok the kernel was closed and links were removed...
End?
Nope.
Soon one great guy named @#Henkate found that the PBS and Cyanogenmod 13 IS USING THAT KERNEL.
He instantly reported the thread i guess and soon the mods were informed...
And guess what...
They closed the threads. They closed the ROM's that have been popular. PBS now has over 45,000+ views and CyanogenMod 13 has got over 50,000+VIEWS..
And now let's talk about Performance boost speed (PBS)
It is the current fastest Galaxy J5 ROM!!
With so many tweaks, even i am running it as a daily driver...
And who needs to ruin it? Mods and one guy who is acting like a mod! Except you @sawdoctor you are the best
In PBS the developer is trying to max the speed out of this device!
And the DJ_Steve's kernel is making that ROM fast!
Again, guy who is acting like a mod needs to report that ROM and inform all the moderators.
And Zonik is the great man who tries to make our device faster and even better!
He even wanted to help me to boost my ROM what i wanted to create, but in the end i just didn't want to do it because i knew that PBS is the best modified stock ROM in the moment..
(Who doesn't believe me i can send screenshots of our chat in facebook :l)
I am just going insane!
I can't take this!
I am quitting XDA for a while.. I can't do anything if the great stuff is removed...
I am just protesting for this!
Thanks to everyone for being here and making our device XDA supported. I greatly appreciate that.
I am out
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johnhux7 said:
Well said mate, no need to go telling tails it wasn't hurting anybody.
I too am using zoniks PBS ROM and I love it it's the best rom I have used by a long way and I'm gutted not just for us using these ROMs but for the guys making them.
A quick message could have saved all this.
I'm gutted
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I understand your concern my friends. You tell me what can we do now? Nothing. We cant undo the things which has happened. If there is one thing we can do is to stay calm and wait until a new rom perhaps is released by some developer who are on this forum ( it can be me as well). So i kindly request u all wonderful guys out there not to create any further threads like these.
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#Henkate, dont create further problems over here. I am trying to cool down things indirectly i am trying to get people off ur back. So i think u should keep quite and "keep the threads clean" .
KingWilliams said:
I understand your concern my friends. You tell me what can we do now? Nothing. We cant undo the things which has happened. If there is one thing we can do is to stay calm and wait until a new rom perhaps is released by some developer who are on this forum ( it can be me as well). So i kindly request u all wonderful guys out there not to create any further threads like these.
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#Henkate, dont create further problems over here. I am trying to cool down things indirectly i am trying to get people off ur back. So i think u should keep quite and "keep the threads clean" .
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OK mate, out of respect for you and all developers I will stop taking and adding to threads and will wait see.
I have a new phone as from Tuesday but will be keeping this J5 for testing new ROMs.
To be clear I'm stopping out of respect for the developers and for XDA and this forum.
Let's all stop and move on.
Henkate. I will still discuss anything via PM with you but I too think you need to stop posting for a while or your gonna keep winding people up just by your presence. Alot of people are very angry
Let's hope that some developers will use or J5 forum.
King William's. I hope your exams go well but I hope that you come back.
John
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This really is a waste of time . Do J5 users think they are special and exempt from xda rules ? It's quite simple if devs follow the same rules as EVERY OTHER device developers do then there will be no more drama. I mean is it really that hard for a kernel dev to publish his sources ? we only need a tarball for gpl rules .
If you want to blame anyone blame Linus Torvalds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
He is the one who licensed the linux kernel under gpl