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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this... o.. maybe not...
44.44% would rather have one single GingerBread ROM over anything else, excellent!
Keep the vote's rolling, let's find out what people really want!
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
MrHassell said:
how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this...
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What?-....-........
Delete lame 'roms' - firmware stools
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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...or not...
he`s half right about what he wrote.
obviously the ones and only that made a "almost fully" rom for ours x10, was/is Z, J and T.
but one interesting thing is. a few months ago, when i see this so called 2.1 roms never read anything about it. and they were called "rom".
i give that opinion on those times...nobody give a **** about that...
but if we go further, they don`t do any roms aswell. they pick some here, some there, mix all together and...hey, it worked...great.
the ONLY way we can have a TRUE custom rom is when we crack the f..k`in BL, untill now...
my understanding is:
this so called roms are...mod roms.
but thats just me
I think the Z J and trip are really developer.THX them
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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Well I can understand your point of view, even if I don't share it. Giving the people possibilities to choose from isn't the worst thing. And by modding one "ROM" in many ways, a lot of heads think about solutions for bugs and problems. In that way it actually is in the name of progress
Regarding the word ROM: I think most xda users are used to have ROMs for their phones and since the different firmwares we have for the X10 behave like a ROM in most aspects, it would be more confusing to call them firmwares, even if it is more correct...
Too funny
Honestly, I really kicked a hornets nest here - haha - Wow!
It's not really about names, firmwares and roms, apples and oranges etc.. I'm just really perplexed by the sheer volume of unfinished projects some blatantly ripped without any credit to the authors and more than anything, the sheer uselessness of the majority.
It's great that people want to contribute something, so how about downloading the favorable 'rom' (if it makes you feel cool.. or whatever) and make your contribution and then ONE BETTER, instead of uploading the whole schamozzle of mish mash..
Just the mods' that matter? I.E; Changed the Framework-Res.apk and a few apps, then do what Sempeternal does and release an update.zip! - Include screen shots.. but the whole firmware for a theme.. seem's overkill..
Put this in context, not naming names here but I downloaded a GingerBread a while back and it had one single app.. aside from that it was a virgin clone of another guy's rom - with no credit or even value... and it's nearly every day I'm seeing someone pop up with another CM or something and it's actually.. distracting.
Personally I'm 150% behind the work of Z, J and Sempiternal (my favorite theme is the new HC) which looks awesome on any GB modified firmware, even on Eclair and Froyo.
That is what I'm talking about! - Semp really knows what time it is and releases amazing work, free of charge. Best of all across any flavour, without any nonsense! All killer - no filler
Ginger!
i would say gingerbread and a cyanogen brew (which J would start to cook up soon^^)
i mean, who doesn't want the latest version of the most powerful android rom?
Since this is a thread opened for discussion, allow me to do exactly that. The below is strictly my own opinion and not a rant and/or an attack aimed at anyone.
I'm extremely disappointed at the way things are moving in the X10 Dev section. There are dozens of unnecessary half cooked 'ROMs' that're of no practical use. The blind self-righteous and immature dev worshipping present in the thread is shockingly mind numbing. Ask questions, even valid ones, and you're swarmed by these retarded sheep who respond back with insults and personal digs. One user even told me to go buy another X10 when I supported another user who posted a question for the Dev. about the the newer basebands, especially since the Dev himself mentioned that the newer baseband support may [or may not] come. Regardless, the question was for the Dev. and not the sheep.
Just when I feel consoled read something that hints at *some* progress being made with the current firmware, I find myself reading another post, after a while, which takes on a completely different direction. The firmware suddenly gets dropped in favor of a newer/<some popular ROM> which, then, necessitates the Dev. to re-engage himself with the long list of functions and features that aren't working. In essence it means, we're back to ground zero. Why is that necessary? It's a fact that we aren't going to see a 100% functional port because of the locked bootloader - so wouldn't it make more sense to concentrate on just 1 firmware and make it as perfect as possible, with the omission of things that wouldn't be working due to the locked down bootloader?
I sincerely think we need just *2* FIRMWARE threads in the Dev. area - one for 2.3.x and one for 2.2.x. The CM additions can be easily had by installing the CM Settings app, the themes etc. on top of whichever edition one chooses. There's no need to have a complete 'ROM' uploaded with the same critical and few non critical issues.
I should reiterate, the above is simply my own opinion and is in no way a rant or an attack on anyone.
Yes too many rom. Devs should work together to make a perfect room than every dev make their own rom better.
There are developers... and chefs... devs develop the software. Cooks or chefs take ingredients or parts of software and mix or cook them. If you have been a long member of xda you would know that this has always been how it is for EVERY phone that is on this site... but more so this thread propably should be moved to a different section.
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It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
People on here seem to have the mistaken impression that if devs came together we would have a perfect rom instead of several roms that have bugs... That is not the case. We would just have less choice, the bugs would still remain, things like the camcorder and camera issues don't just get fixed overnight. It's nice to see peoples own twist on things, sad to see some people don't appreciate this..
cobrato said:
It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
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Agreed with u...
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I personally would like the developers and the site to do the following.
1. Sticky the First Rom post from each guy, and only allow him to update it and a second post.
2. All comments, questions regarding it should be in a separate thread of the same title appended with [Discussion], which should be culled (or have a strike through put the heading) from the system the moment the dev releases a new version.
I for one, can not go through hundreds or thousands of posts most of which are not relevant any longer to the current version of the firmware/baseband whatever update. IT's very intimidating, and onerous on the reader- even professional IT people. I can't imagine what someone from a non-technical bent sent here by someone - "Hey you can get an update for that at XDA!" thinks when they encounter some of these 2,000+ plus postings.
The developers should take a bit of responsibility and update the first or second posts with any new issues that crop up from the discussions. You should not have to read 50 posts in to a thread to find out that there is a step missing in the install or a new bug has been confirmed. I've burned two X10's myself due to bugs and unclear instructions that were later corrected.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to support with money these guys, even though I have not actually put a 'custom' firmware onto any of my phones. I have put/used the tools that have been provided to do other things like JIT and rooting/updating SE firmware. I am looking forward to seeing a fully functional update to give me some of the things that are not available in 2.1 so I can get better applications. I think that not having some items like Hotspot, Tether and even 16m color on the display which require kernel updates are not that important since tether/hotspot can be added via applications in the market.
I don't think there can be a better example of why we don't need random people come up with ROMs [they're firmwares, NOT ROMs]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11669817&postcount=97
In that thread, the main issue is not about giving or not giving credits, it's about calling oneself a 'Chef' and delivering half baked results which ultimately causes grief when users don't receive solutions to their legitimate queries/firmware related problems.
lately, as i've been reading about cm7, people have been flaming cm7, comparing it to other AOSP roms, or are concerned about what score they are going to get on cm7 vs *****'s rom.
STOP!
below i've pointed out a couple things that you should take the time to read, especially if you're flaming cm7.
1) cm7 will be supported for the EVO3D, it may take a while for GSM, but thats not stopping me from waiting. be patient! toast wouldn't release something that is utter crap just for him to get flamed by the noobs who are already ignorant enough to think cm7 is just a rom without sense.
2) cm7 may not have the highest scores, but who the hell cares about scores?! if your phone runs smoother and faster on cm7 but doesn't get amazing quad scores or linpack etc, why are you complaining? i dont know about you but when i show my friends my phone its about how fast it is and what it can do, not about a number that they might not even understand (especially if they use bb or iphone)
3) why is cm7 the only rom that is flamed so much? because either they seem to have forgotten to install or run a patch or install a kernel that does "x" feature and then they start complaining about it. the fact is the its probably YOUR OWN ignorance that is making cyanogen run like crap on your phone or not doing it what you want. so if something is working or broken, use the SEARCH button or ASK instead of flaming!
4) once CM7 comes, dont go posting its "BUGGY, THIS ROM SUCKS BECAUSE XXXX FEATURE IS BROKEN." If you don't like using NIGHTLIES then wait for an RC or a full release! nightlies are for people to test and REPORT not RANT about what problems need to be fixed.
5) cm7 is not a rom that is 'just' AOSP and a rom w/o sense. its much more, but if you're ignorant enough to think that, then you probably haven't explored android that much, or you really just dont know how much more usuable and cleaned up cm7 is compared to sense or other roms that may be out there. (not trying to explicitly bash other peoples roms)
6) stop complaining that some 'AOSP' rom on your old phone worked way better. "Oh 'xxxxxx' rom is so much better than cm7, why are they bothering to port cm7 when they should be porting 'xxxxxx' AOSP rom!!! "
maybe because 9 out of 10 AOSP roms that you got on your old phone were BASED OFF OF CM7. devs may write a kernel that is built specifically to get high scores, but may not be as efficient as you think in day to day use. OR maybe you didn't read the part where it says 'thanks to so and so' on the OP of that rom, but most devs that make AOSP roms either say that its a modified version of cm7 or they credit the cm7 team.
7) most importantly, the team and people of cm7 are DOING THIS ON THEIR OWN TIME. its not like they HAVE to do it for YOU. they're doing it because they choose to and they would like to share it with you. but its also you the people that make them want to smack their heads on their desks because you're so damn ungreatful for their work. they will update when they can so stop flaming them and saying they don't update; people have lives outside of cm7 and their phones.
even if we don't get a FULLY working cm7 port, its not like they didn't try, believe me they are trying to get it to work, but its not like you could do a better job, could you?
STOP FLAMING cm7 and STOP ASKING FOR IT. PEOPLE HAVE LIVES.
okay i'm done. sorry i just got mad at all the people bashing it in the recent threads about cm7.
FaithCry said:
PEOPLE HAVE LIVES.
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They shouldn't have lives.
They are clearly here to service us.
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I am in.
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well said .
And why couldn't you just post this rant in the other two threads we already have open about cm7?
We do still have mods here, the flame police is not needed. Even if your right.
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ricocollege said:
And why couldn't you just post this rant in the other two threads we already have open about cm7?
We do still have mods here, the flame police is not needed. Even if your right.
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Because it would get buried in all the meaningless bull**** post with the other important statements that's already there.
B00T M4NaG3R G4V3 M3 A TrU3 HyBr!D 3v0 *Showdown Rom/&\Hyperlite {AOSP}*
Thanx. I was looking for a way to waste my time. Ha for real tho if cm devs don't care enough to say something back to anti cm7ers why do u feel like its your job. Just let it go everybody has a right to there opinion what's right to me may not be right to you.
Waiting 3...2...1... Who's gonna put me in my place? Haha
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gmfeny said:
Thanx. I was looking for a way to waste my time. Ha for real tho if cm devs don't care enough to say something back to anti cm7ers why do u feel like its your job. Just let it go everybody has a right to there opinion what's right to me may not be right to you.
Waiting 3...2...1... Who's gonna put me in my place? Haha
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because its annoying and garbage that people post about that isn't really productive towards anything. and because there are other people that think the same way but just don't bother to voice it. and its not my job, it is just pissing me off how some people are so ungrateful for what others do for them, and so i decided i would post about it.
gmfeny said:
Thanx. I was looking for a way to waste my time. Ha for real tho if cm devs don't care enough to say something back to anti cm7ers why do u feel like its your job. Just let it go everybody has a right to there opinion what's right to me may not be right to you.
Waiting 3...2...1... Who's gonna put me in my place? Haha
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It's attitudes like this that make me have no interest in deving of any kind and makes me wonder why devs do what they do.
They owe you nothing.
Period.
Not ****.
And its people policing the threads that make the devs not want to come back here. If somebody is simply stating their opinion it shouldn't be a problem. But people attack others here for making opinions instead of agreeing to disagree.
I NEVER said I hate cm7 or I don't give a **** if it comes out. But honestly these threads are worse than the others. Really this topic is basically talking **** about **** that nobody cares about in other threads.
I'm not trying to offend anybody this is just my opinion. I would rather read threads in the EVO 3d section that have to do with the EVO 3d but hey that might be just me.
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And its people policing the threads that make the devs not want to come back here. If somebody is simply stating their opinion it shouldn't be a problem. But people attack others here for making opinions instead of agreeing to disagree.
I NEVER said I hate cm7 or I don't give a **** if it comes out. But honestly these threads are worse than the others. Really this topic is basically talking **** about **** that nobody cares about in other threads.
I'm not trying to offend anybody this is just my opinion. I would rather read threads in the EVO 3d section that have to do with the EVO 3d but hey that might be just me.
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There's a difference between an opinion and whining/attacking devs....which is what a lot of people are doing on here.
And no, threads like this one, defending devs, is not causing devs to not come back here.
That's a pretty crazy claim.
Haha the title reminds me of the guy that pleaded with ppl to leave britney spears alone. lol
That's funny, I don't care ya are
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Haha the title reminds me of the guy that pleaded with ppl to leave britney spears alone. lol
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nastystang05 said:
Haha the title reminds me of the guy that pleaded with ppl to leave britney spears alone. lol
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L3AVE CYANOGEN MOD ALONE!!!!!11
My 30 days is almost up, can I get an eta or what?!?!?
regardless of what rom whether its AOSP or not, people always whine, and i think thats what annoys me the most. devs and modders do things for other people because they're selfless and want to share what they know and what they've done. but those who whine and complain are selfish because they aren't getting what they want, when they want.
and i think its more that some people don't even bother to search, or even ask for that matter, and instead just flame and bash the peoples roms. its not like everyone who downloads roms says thanks either. especially since ever dev's rom post only has 20ish thanks when there are clearly more than 100x the amount of people downloading their rom.
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My 30 days is almost up, can I get an eta or what?!?!?
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hahahahaha
when I read through the github and look at the closed issues and still open , i see there are some closed issues that still remain as unsolved in your current beta? is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems? i like to see that your building a CM9 rom for our ace, but i wasnt the slightest bit impressed with beta4, the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
I guess u can give a shot then
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What problem tht is closed still exists? All closed issues have been fixed
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008bond said:
What problem tht is closed still exists? All closed issues have been fixed
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I had intermittent wifi problems, gallery app crashing, gallery widget failure, at the time I had no USB cable connected, and UMS notification would remain in top left, and randomly say "USB cable disconnected", music playback was skippy.
I liked how smooth it was, but it seemed very irresponsive, and sometimes the keyboard would stay on screen.
A letter to the haters aka groupies.
IceCreamSammich said:
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is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems?
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the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
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The given github is only more or less an intermediate fake bug tracker with no real corresponding CM9 source code as backup. You will not find any fixes in the CM9 sources from Alpha1 to Beta4 releases on there. He's like Houdini. Throwing quick binary fixes from nowhere at the head of his fans and they're all happily screaming for more candies. I'm sure you already heard of PDroid or CarrierIQ, right?
If not: Ask your best friend uncle google. ...
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CHANGELOG:
-----beta4 - Macław and Mikegapinski build
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Of course updated CM9 sources
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Call me blind, but I can't find it anywhere on your github.
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I tried , the lunch command gave me **** . I might need help from Maclaw .
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The last edit of the source on github was made by yourself. And it was only an edit of a readme file (->https://github.com/GalaxyICS/androi...70efa53c1c6f6f47a7974a29b65e39d79676e3#ReadMe).
I highly doubt that you or anybody else will be able to build Beta4 from the public available github sources. It is his business model anyway. As long as there are happy customers eagerly supporting it, I don't care. Au contraire ... I hope he can milk and squeeze out of them as much as he can! Why? Because they both have found each other and do represent a prime example of a natural symbiotic relationship of demand and supply in a capitalistic marketplace.
@all_the_haters
Read my post carefully again (at least 10 times; ask google translate or a friend of yours with more english capabilities to explain it to you in your mother tongue) and tell me where I'm ranting or dissing anyone at. I'm just making an educated guess based on the freely puclic available resources. Freeing you from the burden to do it yourself. Take as is or just ignore it. I myself have a clear picture of you: One who does not even know what logcat is but pathetically standing up eagerly fighting and screaming for a beta development software in a development thread dissing others with more than off topic comments himself. If this picture of yours is not that sad, I might want to laugh about it, but currently I rather want to cry about this disgusting fact.
Otherwise, I'm wishing you all a happy and long lasting wet ICS dream from the bottom of my pure and truthful heart. ...
Btw, here is a counterexample of a quality wokrsmanship.
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tossan said:
The given github is only more or less an intermediate fake bug tracker with no real corresponding CM9 source code as backup. You will not find any fixes in the CM9 sources from Alpha1 to Beta4 releases on there. He's like Houdini. Throwing quick binary fixes from nowhere at the head of his fans and they're all happily screaming for more candies. I'm sure you already heard of PDroid or CarrierIQ, right?
If not: Ask your best friend uncle google. ...
Call me blind, but I can't find it anywhere on your github.
The last edit of the source on github was made by yourself. And it was only an edit of a readme file (->https://github.com/GalaxyICS/androi...70efa53c1c6f6f47a7974a29b65e39d79676e3#ReadMe).
I highly doubt that you or anybody else will be able to build Beta4 from the public available github sources. It is his business model anyway. As long as there are happy customers eagerly supporting it, I don't care. Au contraire ... I hope he can milk and squeeze out of them as much as he can! Why? Because they both have found each other and do represent a prime example of a natural symbiotic relationship of demand and supply in a capitalistic marketplace.
@all_the_haters
Read my post carefully again (at least 10 times; ask google translate or a friend of yours with more english capabilities to explain it to you in your mother tongue) and tell me where I'm ranting or dissing anyone at. I'm just making an educated guess based on the freely puclic available resources. Freeing you from the burden to do it yourself. Take as is or just ignore it. I myself have a clear picture of you: One who does not even know what logcat is but pathetically standing up eagerly fighting and screaming for a beta development software in a development thread dissing others with more than off topic comments himself. If this picture of yours is not that sad, I might want to laugh about it, but currently I rather want to cry about this disgusting fact.
Otherwise, I'm wishing you all a happy and long lasting wet ICS dream from the bottom of my pure and truthful heart. ...
Btw, here is a counterexample of a quality wokrsmanship.
[x]
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Ugh what's wrong with you......I was talking about AOKP you idiot .
Herpderp Defy.
IceCreamSammich said:
I had intermittent wifi problems, gallery app crashing, gallery widget failure, at the time I had no USB cable connected, and UMS notification would remain in top left, and randomly say "USB cable disconnected", music playback was skippy.
I liked how smooth it was, but it seemed very irresponsive, and sometimes the keyboard would stay on screen.
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There were wifi issues, but they have been fixed. If you still have them, connect to your wifi and switch to static IP. (Works fine for me.)
The usb debugging did not work, but Maclaw has fixed it and I think it will be in the next release.
Gallery works for me, however, sometimes it does not work. Maclaw said that the gallery is RAM hungry and there is not way to fix this unless you can get more RAM installed on your ace.(Which is not possible.)
Music player works fine, did you try disabling shake and flip actions? (It works fine for me even with them.)
The keyboard is a genuine issue and I think it comes under the "flick issue" in which some menus do not disappear even after pressing OK.
EmoBoiix3 said:
...you idiot .
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Never expected more than this from the master troll in here. Or does your sister(s) hacked your XDA account again? Because I myself have a hard time to explain to my virtual little AND big sisters what CM or AOSP even is (let alone AOKP)! ...
Does it make any sense to you:
Requesting write acces to Mc CM9 github.
Edit the readme file.
Asking for help to compile AOKP in the Mc CM9 development thread?
If you don't really seriously want to work on CM9 and contribute bugfixes, than I guess you wanted only to get on the list of the new superheroes? Congrats: You've done it good!
And if I do remember it correctly, you did even write a HOWTO to compile AOSP/AOKP somewhere yourself, didn't you? Putting the fact aside, that I did the little mistake about your request with the Mc CM9 build itself, my conclusive statement still holds. What are you so mad about then?
Either way, I'm wishing you all the best luck to successfully compile AOKP or CM9 ICS builts and share it again by a nice noob proven tutorial (Don't forget to make proper credits to MacLaw and buy him a new PC by then!). ...
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Never expected more than this from the master troll in here. Or does your sister(s) hacked your XDA account again? Because I myself have a hard time to explain to my virtual little AND big sisters what CM or AOSP even is (let alone AOKP)! ...
Does it make any sense to you:
Requesting write acces to Mc CM9 github.
Edit the readme file.
Asking for help to compile AOKP in the Mc CM9 development thread?
If you don't really seriously want to work on CM9 and contribute bugfixes, than I guess you wanted only to get on the list of the new superheroes? Congrats: You've done it good!
And if I do remember it correctly, you did even write a HOWTO to compile AOSP/AOKP somewhere yourself, didn't you? Putting the fact aside, that I did the little mistake about your request with the Mc CM9 build itself, my conclusive statement still holds. What are you so mad about then?
Either way, I'm wishing you all the best luck to successfully compile AOKP or CM9 ICS builts and share it again by a nice noob proven tutorial (Don't forget to make proper credits to MacLaw and buy him a new PC by then!). ...
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Well,You had a hard time in explaining even AOSP...that shows your high level of intellingence.
And if you are sooooo intelligent then y dont you try to port ICS yourself?Oooooo I forgot,you are too busy with your investigation about maclaw and his port..!!
Well atleast he isnt trolling like you and trying something.Get a life mr.tossan..will ya??
er...informative? CHILL GUYS... or Maybe our mr Tossan can help contributing on cm9...?
Well , I'm sorry that you didn't even try to start on the entire AOSP thing .
I'm sorry you didn't venture out to try new experiences .
I'm sorry that you didn't fail hard like I did .
I'm sorry that I didn't make any good ROM .
Herpderp Defy.
EmoBoiix3 said:
Well , I'm sorry that you didn't even try to start on the entire AOSP thing .
I'm sorry you didn't venture out to try new experiences .
I'm sorry that you didn't fail hard like I did .
I'm sorry that I didn't make any good ROM .
Herpderp Defy.
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Sorry for what Matt? >.< Trolls will keep on trolling,they are better to be ignored.Some act like they know everything,while all they know is just talk about stuff that anyone can attain with the help of Google...
Shall we begin and reiterate the purpose and meaning of this thread again?
The title says:
[Q] About Maclaws CM9 beta4
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The open questions are:
IceCreamSammich said:
when I read through the github and look at the closed issues and still open , i see there are some closed issues that still remain as unsolved in your current beta? is there any reason you close them on github without fixing them? do you intend on solving these problems? i like to see that your building a CM9 rom for our ace, but i wasnt the slightest bit impressed with beta4, the quality of worksmanship was somewhat... sloppy if you ask me.
no harm intended.
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Now ask yourself about the contribution you have made since entering this thread. All I can see is the denial of crude facts. If you don't have any constructive contribution to share, then just keep it like the monkey, who does not want to say anything. Then nobody could ever deduce from that to your level of skill.
And here is a very hard task for you to solve: Which of this three cute fellows does represents you best?
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「非礼勿视，非礼勿听，非礼勿言，非礼勿动。」
「fei li wu shi, fei li wu ting, fei li wu yan, fei li wu dong.」
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tossan said:
Shall we begin and reiterate the purpose and meaning of this thread again?
The title says:
The open questions are:
Now ask yourself about the contribution you have made since entering this thread. All I can see is the denial of crude facts. If you don't have any constructive contribution to share, then just keep it like the monkey, who does not want to say anything. Then nobody could ever deduce from that to your level of skill.
And here is a very hard task for you to solve: Which of this three cute fellows does represents you best?
「非礼勿视，非礼勿听，非礼勿言，非礼勿动。」
「fei li wu shi, fei li wu ting, fei li wu yan, fei li wu dong.」
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I'm pretty sure no-one called the police?? I didn't
AOKP 4 LYF
scoffyburito said:
I'm pretty sure no-one called the police?? I didn't
AOKP 4 LYF
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... by the way i think our Mr Tossan got a point here.. he just explaining the issues here. no harm done.... chill guys.. all of u are awesome developers.
zaqwankira said:
... by the way i think our Mr Tossan got a point here.. he just explaining the issues here. no harm done.... chill guys.. all of u are awesome developers.
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Yeah but tossans posts hurt my eyes (xda app)
AOKP 4 LYF
XD....laugh hard for the monkeys
news about 0 dbm 97 asu signal?
我什么都不管了。你要怎样办就怎么办吧。
I applaud you if you know what it means without using a translator .
And I mean what I typed .
Herpderp Defy.
EmoBoiix3 said:
我什么都不管了。你要怎样办就怎么办吧。
I applaud you if you know what it means without using a translator .
And I mean what I typed .
Herpderp Defy.
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So that's Chinese? I'm doing katakana and kanji at the moment and I can spot out a few characters.
AOKP 4 LYF
Good Evening All
I know this might be discussed before in few threads but the reason I'm posting this thread is to have the answers from the developers themselves about the difficulties they're facing to port Sense UI ( 4.0 for example ) to our beloved SGS 2 and why their is no attempt to do it.
Updates 24-05-2012
Developers are going crazy
check these websites:-
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533931
I believe we have a great code reverse engineers as well as great kernel developers and plenty of resources out there ,,, what we are waiting for ?!!
Please devs kindly give it a try and help us,,,,
Updates 16-05-2012 by Quebe2 and Coenjte44 big thanks to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
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Swamp goblin a great developer is working in the shadows to create an amazing HTC sense based SGS II ROM !!!!
Now in Nexus S development thread, two developers namely Qube2 and swamp goblin are working so hard to port Sense 4.0 !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502895
Qube2 did successfully port Sense 2.1 to Nexus S !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490709
Mkalter from SGS 1 thread is trying his best to port to SGS !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1593939
I believe that our SGS II is the most device world wildly used. Also it has better hardware and better developer community.
What I need is the developers' comments, not only the ones who are interested on Sense UI but also the ones who are not but they have their theories in which they explain why porting Sense UI is difficult, non achievable or waste of time.
Thanx
Sorry for the bad grammer. English isn't really my native language.
P.S. For users like me, respectfully don't flood this thread with posts that won't answer my question in details ( like; if you want sense UI buy HTC device !! ). I need the developers to kindly gather here and post their opinions, experiences and may be their pre-alphas
My Question was moved to Q/A subforum ,, I did post it in general subforum intentionally because of it is really hot area and it may attract developers. I hope it won't be got lost here. Thanx Crachel
To be honest, most developers don't browse around here (as they are busy with their own thing)... but testing Sense UI myself on several phones.. it's laggy and a resource hog. Sure it looks nice, but it's not better than a few others (especially since ICS)- and most often people want things to be more speedy.
Perhaps a hardcore developer will come and give you more details on what they like or don't like about it. Good luck.
PS
Apex launcher fast and smooth
Most of the users here want stock as possible. I dont know why. I study now android development and yes i want Sense UI to at my Phone because i used HTC HD2 with RafDroids HD revolution it had sense. So give a lil bit at any day at any time there will be a sense SGS 2... But Stock ICS with GO Launcher rocks too :-D
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Because it's crap & unnecessary, as Cyberboob more politely intimated than I did.
I think it's down to purely pragmatic reasons.
Say a dev owns a HTC device. What's more practical for him/her (never know, female devs could exist..)? Modify Sense on a phone he/she owns, or decide that TouchWiz is great and spend hours trying to port that instead?
Ergo the same holds true for devs whom own the SGS2.
As cyberboob said, you're unlikely to see any devs on this subforum, and in my opinion they don't need to explain or justify any decision they make anyway - their work, their choice. It's not a democracy here, and that's the way it should be.
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
I know that sense is just like any other UI out there but I think weather, twitter and Facebook implementation as well as the animations of HTC sense are far better than go , apex and other UI launchers.
Now being laggy or buggy is something I really wanna wait to comment on but first we wanna test it.
I'm resisting to buy HTC one X and to give up on my SGS II because I believe in that our developers are capable to create a powerful and better performing android OS on SGS II that with HTC sense UI would be better than any HTC device.
Back to main subject we need developer's opinion in porting HTC sense UI based roms to our SGS II.
I wish moderators here would kindly move this thread to any subforum in which devs are more likely to see and comment or may be to contribute to this subject.
Thanx all for replying.
There was a dev thread...it got closed due to spam posts
[PROJECT] [PORT] HTC Sense UI 3.0 [ WORK IN PROGRESS ]
Hahaha I did.
Congrats on the 1000th mate *applauds*
B3311 said:
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
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The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
frankimm said:
The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
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Yeah I'll surely donate but we need somebody who actually start porting it. Not only me you will see a bunch of people who are willing/will donate to this project.
Peace.
In my opinion sense 3 is ugly and Sense 4 isn't any diffrent from fror exsample go launcher
Sent from my sgs2 running cm9 using xda app
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
Oweida said:
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
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Judged by the number of Sense threads two points are plain one HTC users want it on SGS2 and two nearly a year down the line and it must be to difficult to port .
Which points to the simple fact that SGS2 devs dont want to port it or have found to many stumbling blocks to make it worth while .Probably the later is the big reason why no sense .
jje
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
Plenty of devs read Q&A.
It's a crap idea as has already been said Think about it. You're a dev...you have a job, a family, other interests. You have a choice say, between developing/maintaining something like a kernel or a rom (or an app even) which hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of people will appreciate, use & offer feedback on, which will be an ongoing thing...
Or you port a UI from another device to please a couple of dozen fanboys of said different device which is both ugly (just my opinion) & consumes a crapload of device resources/isn't 'efficient'.
I know what I'd be doing.
Oweida said:
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
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Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
B3311 said:
Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
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I really feel sad about this. The good thing is HTC has released it's miracle HTC one X which has both powerful hardware and amazing software and may be I will buy it
Thanx All for replying.
Peace
Please Forum moderator move this thread to the discussion sub forum ,,,,
Peace
Please administrators/moderators move this topic to general forum , maybe it will get somebody's attention.
yes most the sgs2 users need sense 4 on their sgs2 i also want to see sense 4 on my sgs2
Welcome to BARE BONES!
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This WAS a ICS De-Sensed Rom based off of the latest ICS Global OTA. It is now however based off of my latest INFECTION 2.5 CM 4.2.2 rom
This was created because XDA member localceleb wanted a rom to use JUST for tethering yet still needed to be able to make callls, receive texts, and surf the web.
THAT'S IT.
This rom would be best suited as a bootmanager/side load rom to be used simply for tethering (but still able to receive calls and messages just in case someone needs to get a hold of you!)
Please note... There is NOTHING left in this rom. This is not built for practical everyday use! So do not expect a whole lot of support for it. It was designed as bare as possible for tethering purposes.
If you don't agree with me then you will die.
For you tweakers out there that want to build a rom (FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR POSTING on the forums) this rom is a perfect base for you to add in the missing elements you miss. Just grab a cm-10.1 build of the latest Global and have at it with 7zip.
Miss having a calendar? pull Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk from it and drop it into the same folder of your base rom. Done. same goes for most apps you're missing.
Additionally, I have done a few tweaking to this rom for battery life and network speed.
Click to Download--->BARE BONES Sense ICS version (209mb)
md5: d89b861ba291ab51be6ae8c09fbaf790
Click to Download--->BARE BONES Sense JB AOSP version (86mb)
md5: [/CENTER]
*NOTE* You MUST be on the latest global firmware to flash the ics sense version.
If you like my work, donations are always accepted!
Thanks to the following for all their support, permissions, and friendship:
mbobino - For answering all my newb questions and always willing to help.
zhp pilot - For going beyond simply providing theme support by always helping me, and for the keyboard included in this rom.
SynisterWolf - For always helping my users.
XRaptor29 - For help and giving me the idea to even start developing.
Hanger84 - For answering all my noob questions and being good help.
Wildstang83 - For answering all my noob questions and always willing to assist.
DMeadows01 - For letting me kick him all the time and always telling me "IDK".
A big THANK YOU to the following XDA Members for their generosity! I appreciate everything!
Please PM me with your username if you are one of the following non xda user names listed below so that I may have you recognized properly.
CompTek
WeThePeople13
Roland Deschain
Drew
Matthew P.
Tad
B.MAC
J
Thomas
whotahnHTC
Matthew S.
David
If you like my work, donations are happily accepted!
CLICK/TAP -> IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo
CLICK/TAP -> ZHP Pilot
One more for me for downloads, changelogs, FAQ's, etc
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Ballin
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Curses. a Rom I wish I could run if I still had the Rezound lol. Well done neo on some amazing work.
Just a quick compliment
Neo,
Just wanted to give a shout out to you for all the hard work you're doing in putting out your latest ROMs. It's awesome that you're putting something out there for everyone (whether they're Sense fanboys or like the more ASOP look/feel). Looking forward to your next few updates!
S-On Rezound
Running Adrenaline ROM V2.0, w/ Apex Pro
Wow I've truly never seen anything like this be done. Absolutely genious. This is a super smart way of getting insane battery life, I might just have to try this with my thunderbolt when I get my rezzy back and the bolt gets returned into a wifi hotspots only device.
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'If you dont agree with me then you die" I love it!!!
Downloading now.
This would be great if you have an old rezound and want to use it as a mp3 player!
Oh sense.... Stripped bare and still twice the size of AOSP. What did HTC do lol? Nice job on this Neo
dmeadows013 said:
Oh sense.... Stripped bare and still twice the size of AOSP. What did HTC do lol? Nice job on this Neo
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Thanks. I know right? Totally gutted and still huge.
-={X}=- is born
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1860632
I noticed a major bug with this rom...when tethering to my PS3 to play battlefield I still get killed all the time by the enemies...any possible workarounds?
:cyclops:
localceleb said:
I noticed a major bug with this rom...when tethering to my PS3 to play battlefield I still get killed all the time by the enemies...any possible workarounds?
:cyclops:
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Blame Neo!
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localceleb said:
I noticed a major bug with this rom...when tethering to my PS3 to play battlefield I still get killed all the time by the enemies...any possible workarounds?
:cyclops:
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Read the OP: If you don't believe him, you die!
BELIEVE IN NEO
drkow19 said:
Read the OP: If you don't believe him, you die!
BELIEVE IN NEO
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That's what happened to those who didn't believe. Follow the white rabbit my children
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THANK YOU
I wanted to take a moment to Thank all those who have donated since I've started pushing roms for the rez a few months ago. I also appreciate the many of you who have spent their time answering several of the questions within my threads that have literally saved me LOTS of time from having to do it myself even though I try to stay as active as I can with the questions in all my threads. You guys rock!
I have modified the OP to reflect those donators as I feel they should be recognized. If you see your name in the list and it is NOT your xda id, please by all means pm me with your member id and I will correct the op in all 8 of my threads.
As a reminder to all, I create these roms for the community without any expectations from any of you. There is NO COST involved on my part to make these roms. Remember that nothing is required of you to continue receiving updated material and to enjoy my work.
Thanks again to all,
-Neo
Missing?
Where is Neo?
Where has he gone?
Has someone kidnapped him?
No.. He's simply been focusing on work while at work
I've been away due to recent illnesses, a feared brick tablet that I now have running in prime condition once again, and lots of busy projects/busy non android related work.
Tomorrow I will have an Android day but I can't guarantee release of anything or whatever.. but it will be my android day
I've decided that after the release of the NeoMAX and Adrenaline sense-less updates and possibly (but not likely) updates to Sense roms Simplistic and INJECTION, that I will be going on an indefinite hiatus for continued development to those roms. Furthermore, I will be releasing roms less frequently to ICS AOSP version roms RAGE and AOKP (but not pausing development)
My primary focus on both the roms and in thread help will be more towards Jelly Bean development ie INFECTION, TRON-Umbrella, & TRON although I will be tending to RAGE ics from time to time as I consider it to be the most stable of all my aosp work (we all need a little stability form time to time).
There will however be an update between tomorrow and next week for RAGE as I realized in my ill state at the time that I'd left out a few key mods that were present in other versions which left me kicking myself for not remembering them. Thus, 1.9.7 will be born soon.
I'll keep you guys updated on my progress and let you know what I'm up to when the time comes. I just wanted you all to know that I'm confirming a shift of focus to those 4 roms and any cutting edge development.
-Neo
Re: [ROM][08.29.12]8==8<BARE BONES>8==8 [ICS De-Sensed Global 3.6 - 4.03.605.2]
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Where is Neo?
Where has he gone?
Has someone kidnapped him?
No.. He's simply been focusing on work while at work
I've been away due to recent illnesses, a feared brick tablet that I now have running in prime condition once again, and lots of busy projects/busy non android related work.
Tomorrow I will have an Android day but I can't guarantee release of anything or whatever.. but it will be my android day
I've decided that after the release of the NeoMAX and Adrenaline sense-less updates and possibly (but not likely) updates to Sense roms Simplistic and INJECTION, that I will be going on an indefinite hiatus for continued development to those roms. Furthermore, I will be releasing roms less frequently to ICS AOSP version roms RAGE and AOKP (but not pausing development)
My primary focus on both the roms and in thread help will be more towards Jelly Bean development ie INFECTION, TRON-Umbrella, & TRON although I will be tending to RAGE ics from time to time as I consider it to be the most stable of all my aosp work (we all need a little stability form time to time).
There will however be an update between tomorrow and next week for RAGE as I realized in my ill state at the time that I'd left out a few key mods that were present in other versions which left me kicking myself for not remembering them. Thus, 1.9.7 will be born soon.
I'll keep you guys updated on my progress and let you know what I'm up to when the time comes. I just wanted you all to know that I'm confirming a shift of focus to those 4 roms and any cutting edge development.
-Neo
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tl;dr just keep swimming.
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So long!
Now that I have updated this little side loader for you guys, it's time to close the thread for now
Enjoy it
-Neo