Dear Modes...
Is it possible to separate the Android Development forum to sub forums as GB roms & ICS roms.
Its becoming very crowdy and confusing now....
Hope someone is listening...
+ 1 yes, yes
I actually was thinking the same but, when ICS ROM gets officially released (probably in a few weeks), development will only be on ICS ROMs and GB ROMs will be a thing of the past.
But still, I would love to see separate space for ICS ROMs...
This is a great idea - MODS do it
Yet another poster who should know better and post in the correct section instead of messing the forums up with inane posts .
jje
+1
Great idea !
I don't think I've ever seen sub forums on XDA for separate OS iterations, so I doubt it.
By the way, this is a question probably more suited for PM or at the very least Q&A forum, definitely not Android Development...
1) Absolutely should not have had a thread created to pose this question.
2) I don't see the point of splitting the forum further purely along the lines of different Android versions. Having separate forums for the different variations of the SGS2 is fine/necessary, splitting the I9100/T forum into ICS & GB, meh.
all i think is things just need a bit of a cleanup,all the roms that have touch wiz and sammy stuff should go in the original android section and aosp themed roms and heavilly themed roms should go in android development,either that of have sub sections like they do on hd2
Most of the so called custom ROMs are photoshopped icons + JKay's mods. Once ICS gets official and JKay ports his mods to it, Gingebread "development" will disappear on its own, so no need for separate sections.
What we really need is to move all photoshop+JKay stock roms from Original Development to Development, so that original development section gets cleaned up a bit.
proyaz said:
I actually was thinking the same but, when ICS ROM gets officially released (probably in a few weeks), development will only be on ICS ROMs and GB ROMs will be a thing of the past.
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I was thinking the same.
Is not a good idea for me. When will be released officially ICS will have no sense to have two sub-forum.
Not supporting the idea. GB forum would be a desert in a few months, so they would have to merge it back or delete it.
it's a pain find all the info the "Newbies and Noobs" need. +1 I think forums need a cleanup.
Some post from Android Dev are full of the same questions! over and over again.
nio_insane said:
it's a pain find all the info the "Newbies and Noobs" need. +1 I think forums need a cleanup.
Some post from Android Dev are full of the same questions! over and over again.
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You hit the nail on the head noobs posting same question over and over . Why is cause they wont search and dont even read the instructions .So whats the point this is a developers forum not a help forum .Rule is if you are to lazy to search read and learn you dont belong on here .
XDA does not cater to the IWant I Want Know Know crowd .
jje
I think this is a great idea, especially for us noobies out there!
JJEgan said:
You hit the nail on the head noobs posting same question over and over . Why is cause they wont search and dont even read the instructions .So whats the point this is a developers forum not a help forum .Rule is if you are to lazy to search read and learn you dont belong on here .
XDA does not cater to the IWant I Want Know Know crowd .
jje
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Hahahaha i'm not a Android Dev but when i read some topics about "ROMS and FW" i just want a gun to shoot those noobs.
I think a better idea it's rise the amount of helpful topics to new members. Some like 15 or 20 Seriously!
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Hi All!
Do we need a sub forum for Linux / Android development for the HT2 now? The old thread in the HD2 ROM development sub forum is starting to become very cluttered. The amount of topics discussed in that single thread could definitely benefit from being split in many separate threads. I guess the information will be easier to find and the amount of "stupid" questions reduced.
I understand the need for cleaning up some of the sub forums here on XDA (that is actually the reason for this post), but I don't think moving thread out of their context is a good idea. The question asked in my post relates heavily to the ongoing development for the HD2, and will not get the right attention in the Q&A sub forum. People interested in (or having an opinion about) splitting Linux and WinMo ROM development does not frequently browse the Q&A forum.
This post is not of that type where I'm interested in getting a single clear and cut answer. The reason for posting the question is to hear peoples opinion, and maybe getting a discussion going regarding the subject. If I'm not totally wrong, discussion is what the other sub forums are for, right? If we are not allowed to ask questions in other forums than the Q&A, how are we suppose to be able to discuss and debate then?
Could any MOD pleas consider moving the thread back to a forum where the question would have a fair chance of getting some qualified feedback?
YES
paalkr said:
Hi All!
Do we need a sub forum for Linux / Android development for the HT2 now? The old thread in the HD2 ROM development sub forum is starting to become very cluttered. The amount of topics discussed in that single thread could definitely benefit from being split in many separate threads. I guess the information will be easier to find and the amount of "stupid" questions reduced.
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100% with you , it will lessen the clutter and make the project look even more serious !!!
I don't think they're far enough along to really need a whole subforum for it. Maybe once we get a halfway usable version of android in a couple months, but for now I think the one thread is enough. I mean, how many different threads could be made for it right now? All we have is a bootable android with no drivers so far, so there's not many different things or subjects that could be made into threads right now.
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I don't think they're far enough along to really need a whole subforum for it. Maybe once we get a halfway usable version of android in a couple months, but for now I think the one thread is enough. I mean, how many different threads could be made for it right now? All we have is a bootable android with no drivers so far, so there's not many different things or subjects that could be made into threads right now.
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I agree. Once the wheels are in place and we have workable drivers, then creating a subforum would be ideal.
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I don't think they're far enough along to really need a whole subforum for it. Maybe once we get a halfway usable version of android in a couple months, but for now I think the one thread is enough. I mean, how many different threads could be made for it right now? All we have is a bootable android with no drivers so far, so there's not many different things or subjects that could be made into threads right now.
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Well, then we disagree
I think it should be locked so only the guys working on it can post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712586
Right now one thread is fine, but when things begin to get underway we will need another subforum for alternate OSes for the HD2.
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Right now one thread is fine, but when things begin to get underway we will need another subforum for alternate OSes for the HD2.
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NO WAY is it fine take a look in there now and look how many pages been posted asking the same crap in like 40 mins n00b retards
maybe something like this could work in the future:
---HTC HD2 Android
--------------------Information (locked forum)
--------------------Questions
--------------------APPS & tweaks
No use the wiki for the android project not more forums
answer:No, I'm fine with the single thread in HD2 ROM dev sub forum.
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i would be fine if it were a single thread, but it isn't, people are starting threads every few minutes 'why cant android run' 'how to install android' 'help, bluescreen' and on and on and on.
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i would be fine if it were a single thread, but it isn't, people are starting threads every few minutes 'why cant android run' 'how to install android' 'help, bluescreen' and on and on and on.
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i agree 100% , of the 2898 posts there are probably 800 posts " i get a black screen "
Its all about whats hot now
6 months ago alot of posts were when is android going to be working on Hd2?
a month ago nearly all the posts were new cookie clocks
now there all blue screen, once its fixed and more stable releases are brought out the posts about this will drop down and the next new thing will be flooding the boards. its all about whats hot at the moment and in the future android wont be the hot'st thing
Hi to all.
What do you think about separate Android roms from WM ???
Is it possible to make a new thread in HD2 section sticked for always ?
Everyone could have this what he need .
Anyone think it's a goog idea ?
For example :
HD2 ANDROID ROM Development ?
Well the real problem right now is that there is no true Android ROM. Yes you can run Android but till it's flashed to the actual phone like you would with a WinMo ROM it's not a ROM.
then name it just "HD2 ANDROID Development"
it would be great if there is an own android section
i agree! all Android Dev together
Yeah set it up like they have in the rhodium forum.
enough threads already exist full of spammers...one more?
why not call it "spam here if u want for hd2 android development"
I think it would work out great having another spot for Android. Soon most people will be running Android on the HD2 anyway. Makes sense
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this ended up being a huge help for the development on the TouchPro2 (Rhodium). Someone got mods to create a new forum and then they took the liberty of re-organizing all the builds and kept up with the development and its still running nice and neat.
I think this would be a great idea for the HD2, it is about as far along as it can get now and is already attracting more attention. No need to clutter up the WinMo ROM development forums
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This made the HD1 forum better with a separate sub-forum for Android.
What I also think would be a good idea in ALL the forums really is a dedicated ROM release forum where ONLY roms can be posted and no general questons etc. That way you could cycle through the rom list without it been swamped with lots of other posts.
i agree, a subforum dedicated to this imortant issue (android on HD2) would be very useful for the general order of the forum according to me.
the android builds are beeing created and updated everyday (thanks to all the developers) but only two 3ds (in different subforums!) exist...
I found finding info about Andorid confusing so please separate in another forum.
+1 I love this idea.
i sign this good idea +1
+1 For a new subforum for HD2 Android development.
+1 its really necessary
ATHiEST said:
+1 Also
This made the HD1 forum better with a separate sub-forum for Android.
What I also think would be a good idea in ALL the forums really is a dedicated ROM release forum where ONLY roms can be posted and no general questons etc. That way you could cycle through the rom list without it been swamped with lots of other posts.
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+1 on both ideas !
+1 from me too never got into android for the tp2 but now i have got bored of win mo on hd2 i am enjoying playind with android
+1 here too. It would make life so much easier (and would get rid of people asking for it )
I dunno. There are only really a couple of threads that are relevant, and you can keep up to date with progress on the irc channel.
I seem to be keeping up ok by READING and SEARCHING.
+1 from me, it would make keeping track of things easier, assuming people read what's there instead of posting crap!
Please, don't get me wrong, but last time I counted there was near 30 ROMs.
Which of them are really "original" and deserve to be here?
More than this post deserves to be in development!!!
But he does have a point!
The dev forums are for development threads only - not for discussions. If you don't understand that then don't post anywhere.
Edit: I've msg'd a mod.
A lot of the "roms" in this thread are not "roms" but "kernels", and yes they are original
Its all about choice mate simple as that if you want to build a rom you can as can many others its nothing but a hobby .
jje
its all quite pathetic really the state of this forum. Mods have made a crap decision, the vast majority of people know that but they dont want to go back on it and look stupid.
They should get over themselves, its a bloody forum to help and share things. If they wanted to tidy up the development section a bit then the answer is quite simple and been mentioned many times.
Have a ROM section, a KERNEL section and a THEME section
a rom is a rom is a rom, stop sodding about with them.
They changed it this way as a temporary solution because of the crapload of roms in there. They're working on a new interface to make everything easier. Stop *****ing now okay?
Isn't it time to rearrange the forum a bit?
I can't find my way through all the [kernels] [mods] [devs] etc.
I opt for something like this for the development forums:
Galaxy S II Original Android Development
- Roms
- Kernels
- Mods
- Etc
Galaxy S II Android Development
- Roms
- Kernels
- Mods
- Etc
Galaxy S II Themes and Apps
- Apps
- Themes
What do you guys think?
Its already the same, all you have to do is search with the appropriate keyword.
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OP makes no sense here we have a question posted in the wrong forum .Making more work for the mods who have to move it to Q&A.
jje
Search bar is your Friend. as Bala said, its already arranged for easy search anyway.
personally instead of original development and android development id get rid of both and just have seperate sections for
Roms
Kernels
Themes
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Search bar is your Friend. as Bala said, its already arranged for easy search anyway.
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I don't like the extra hassle of having to search, I'd rather have this big pile of everything organised.
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personally instead of original development and android development id get rid of both and just have seperate sections for
Roms
Kernels
Themes
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Agree with this.
My preference would be to start off with a section purely for those that know nothing .After ten thousand posts in that section they are then allowed to read the FAQS and GUIDES for the more complicated stuff .
jje
how would you then classify a rom that has a custom kernel and custom themes, like the new ics.
it would fit into all three categories. Would you put a thread in each with the same subject ?
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how would you then classify a rom that has a custom kernel and custom themes, like the new ics.
it would fit into all three categories. Would you put a thread in each with the same subject ?
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No, it would go into the ROM thread as that is why people would be downloading it. No one downloads a whole Rom just for the kernel do they.
This is my opinion and not the opinion of XDA.
I'm all for formality and having things easier but then is it easier to complicate a user??
My answer would be yes you give people more options it leads to more confusion.
Such as still people not knowing what a development area is for posting in even though Q&A is just above ^^ or is it General this post goes in???
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Hey guys. I know I may be a noob but I've been doing android development for the past 3 years and following your forum for quite some time.
Now that ICS is out and there are quite a few developers building roms for it, why not separate the the forum into ICS roms and gingerbread roms? It seams a lot more sensible and organized to me than organizing by android development and original android development.
Any thoughts?
Been asked probably half a dozen times over the past few months & the answer has been no every time. As to the why of that, search for those other threads & you'll see a moderator or two explain.
In a nutshell if you have not read the stickie .
Android development
One Original development
Two Not Original development takes bits from others and stick them in a rom and usually heavily themed .
Eventually GB development will die off so that's going to be a dead forum .
What the point really just like the OP posted in the wrong section .
jje
I understand the difference between original development and non-original development but at the end of the day they're both ROMs for the same phone and the same software version of Android.
The big differences come between android versions. I think in terms of organisation it makes a lot more sense to organise forums by what users will be interested in finding and I believe people are more interested in which version of android a rom is running rather than if its an original development or not (not that this isn't interesting by itself but versions are more interesting imho).
As for it becoming a dead forum later, I think everything eventually dies as technology advances, not just roms but the phone models themselves so sooner or later all forums will be replaced by newer ones.
JJEgan said:
In a nutshell if you have not read the stickie .
Android development
One Original development
Two Not Original development takes bits from others and stick them in a rom and usually heavily themed .
Eventually GB development will die off so that's going to be a dead forum .
What the point really just like the OP posted in the wrong section .
jje
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Your suggestions would be fair enough if this was a users forum. But as it's a developers forum, the way it's setup now works just fine.