Hi friends,
I wanted to ask that does overclocking damage the mobile processor and decrease its life in any way. I want to use a Megatron rom but i am afraid to do so, kindly help me out.
Another question i wanted to ask is how to check if my mobile is running baseband or new baseband.
I have LG Optimus One Android version 2.3.3 default rom.
Regards,
Pravin
If you installed GB via official update,then you have new baseband.
About overclocking:
Every processor support a max frequency.Mine supports about 710 mhz.But,I overclocked it to 806,put the phone on "set on boot" and it kept rebooting for 5+ times.However,this didn't affected my processor.I don't think that overclock can damage your phone in any way.Also,until 729 mHz you'll get the same battery performances as at 600 mHz.Just OC until 691 mhz first time and play smth for 5 minutes.If it doesn't reboot( also know as KP = kERNEL pANIC) , then go on until 710,729,748,etc.Until you get KP.After,select the last working value and enjoy.
pravin_pran said:
Hi friends,
I wanted to ask that does overclocking damage the mobile processor and decrease its life in any way. I want to use a Megatron rom but i am afraid to do so, kindly help me out.
Another question i wanted to ask is how to check if my mobile is running baseband or new baseband.
I have LG Optimus One Android version 2.3.3 default rom.
Regards,
Pravin
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I dont think the overclocking can damage the phone, in the worst case it can heat up the phone slightly (which i experienced on stock ROM using franco's kernal)
The worst thing that can happen is that the phone will heat up after 1-2 hours like galaxy s and s2 do in 10 mins...
Sent from my LG-P500
Problems of Overclocking:
1.Decrease in battery life because we are increasing the voltage output.
2.Overclocking causes heating which can lead to damage to other hardware components and again damage to battery.
But since these effects are very minimal and are hardly noticeable(and in with most kernels, processor usage is controlled by good governors) in our phones there is no serious harm in overclocking and will only improve performance.
rishabh22 said:
Problems of Overclocking:
1.Decrease in battery life because we are increasing the voltage output.
2.Overclocking causes heating which can lead to damage to other hardware components and again damage to battery.
But since these effects are very minimal and are hardly noticeable(and in with most kernels, processor usage is controlled by good governors) in our phones there is no serious harm in overclocking and will only improve performance.
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Heating is not that bad, unless you are a sick gamer or surfer...
Our device uses same voltage for 122-480 and 600-864, so the battery taken is not that bad...
Edit: the phone NEVER gets over 40°C unless there are 35° air temperature, you hold it very hard in your hand or it has a protection...
Sent from my LG-P500
Once I broke my phone with KDZ and took it to Service Center...
When I got it back, they said that also motherboard was damaged. I tried to look like a fool and acted that I'm surprised.
I'm pretty sure this is because of OC. Don't use higher than 787mhz.
Edit: Oh, and before this problem, I got GPS lock in 1.5 minutes. Now it's in about 10 seconds.
vlt96 said:
Heating is not that bad, unless you are a sick gamer or surfer...
Our device uses same voltage for 122-480 and 600-864, so the battery taken is not that bad...
Edit: the phone NEVER gets over 40°C unless there are 35° air temperature, you hold it very hard in your hand or it has a protection...
Sent from my LG-P500
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Yeah thats why i said the effect is very minimal. And higher the processor usage obviously more the battery usage. So with kernels like the original lg one which does not have a very good governor(as far as i know) the processor tends to stay towards the max frequency range and hence higher voltage.
Yes,overclocking 'too much' can damage CPU and battery life.
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rishabh22 said:
Yeah thats why i said the effect is very minimal. And higher the processor usage obviously more the battery usage. So with kernels like the original lg one which does not have a very good governor(as far as i know) the processor tends to stay towards the max frequency range and hence higher voltage.
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Conservative is the best stock governor... it looks like interactive actually is much more battery saver than ondemand... which ALWAYS keeps at Max..(this is odd)
I love conservative, I am using it because it takes a minute to get Max performance, but then you have maximum performance... but when you do a short usage and keep minimum frequency at 122, there is a chance you will have no higher than 480...
Also, one thing I recommend is using maximum at 480 when idle and listening to music... phone tends to keep it at maximum always when awake and music in background... and 480 is smooth for small tasks... and really battery save!
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That's what i think too .
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OK lets put it this way..
Computers.. desktop for example.. are well known to be overclock..
CPU problems would be.. HEAT. it causes the processor to malfunction, reboots and worst to be cooked..
since are device is to small and 806mhz heats it up not much to burn.. its ok
but? it malfunction.
and overclocking SHORTENs your processor LIFE. that is true
Bad if too much
We are actually pushing the limits of our phone.
Too much of everything is bad..especially HEAT.
Beat the heat...
Battery drain is not a problem just as "vlt96" says.
It can decrease life of your mobile's processor as maufacturers claim.
729 Mhz or 748 Mhz should be sufficient for medium use.
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Hey everyone...
So today while i was trying to download an app, my cpu temperature became 63C (145F).
I was wondering if this temp is even possible and what the temperature the phone is set to turn itself off at.
EDIT: Moto Atrix btw, tegra2 processor
I'm not sure about a mobile processor, but a desktop processor can well above 70, 80, or even 90 under heavy load.
63C sounds wayyy too high for a low voltage/power mobile cpu. Then again its hard to say, as the mobile chips are passively cooled.
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I was able to achieve overheat at a balmy 131°... I was driving in my car, it was charging and running navigation/trapster/iheartradio... I also live in Florida.
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I have also seen 63. And suprising to me its one of the few times it didn't reboot
56 is normal "hot" for me.
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GatorRuss said:
I was able to achieve overheat at a balmy 131°... I was driving in my car, it was charging and running navigation/trapster/iheartradio... I also live in Florida.
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thats your battery though, i am talking about processor.
I wopuld assume that this temperature is damaging to phone itself, i just wonder what the overheat level for the nvidia tegra2 is.
hmmm, still very intrigued. part of me wants to runn my phone as hot as it can till it over heats and reboots, and part of me is saying im a dumba** for even thinking of that, lol.
EDIT: just wanted to say im running greyblur, if that affects anything at all, lol.
Haha, I guess I really don't know much about mobile hardware then ^^
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Haha, I guess I really don't know much about mobile hardware then ^^
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I probably know more for hardware than software, don't feel bad, lol
But, actually, overheat status isn't true overheat function. When there is a true overheat, the phone either turns off or reboots itself. When the battery becomes too hot, the processor ignores that in most cases, while if the processor itself gets hot, it shuts itself down.
Yay, my first true member post, not junior anymore!!!! hahaha
I am also getting these high tempuratures on my cpu and not my battery.
My idle tempurature lowest was 35C and averages 55C and my highest was 70C and averages 65C. I really need help on how to fix this. My battery temp is around 40C
I set up a SetCPU profile so that if the CPU temp reaches 60C, it will max out the processor at 750 Mhz. For me, it pretty much cools off instantly. You may want to set yours lower. It doesn't reach that level often.
I've started a thread early today regarding the atrix's heat issues. Soon as I started playing games on my Atrix I got pretty scared with the temperature I felt on the exterior, and more scared after using temp. monitor apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249757
The idea is to mod the phone to help dissipating heat. Besides undervolting with setcpu I guess there isnt much that can be done at software level to reduce the main chip's heat.
The ideas are still being formulated. I opened the thread so I could get some help and suggestion from other atrix owners, to have a good idea of what to do when I finally open my phone
If anyone wants to try it or have any ideas, please comment there!
WolfFX, your link has actual "...." in the URL and doesn't work.
Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
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WolfFX, your link has actual "...." in the URL and doesn't work.
Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
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Thanks man, I've corrected it. It got messed up due to copy - paste.
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Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
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Yeah. Left the screen to never time up and setcpu to stress test. Left it on my bed covered by a pillow (accidents do happen, I'm quite forgetful and idiotic). Came back and the phone was in "emergency cool down mode"
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with faux 1.9 ive seen temps as high as 165± if its reading right and i did have profiles to back it down to 1100 but it hasnt shut off "yet"
unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
Guys, I will repeat this just one more time. DO NOT let your CPU temperature get higher than 50C... Constant minor overheating causes long term damage to your phone, shortens it's life span.
One major overheating can toast your phone just like that.
These aren't desktop PCs, use common sense. Overclocking to higher than 15% doesn't come unpunished.
Also posted the same in the other operating temperature thread.
Did a bunch of looking around and after a while found some white papers with the following temperature ranges:
General operating temps of -40C to +85C.
Practical usage will start to drop off below -20C and above +70C.
This tells me that our safe operating range should be limited to the practical usage temperatures. Anything outside of these and there is a good chance you will see performance drop off fast, and also may suffer hardware lockups, etc.
Personally I will stick to +65C which is the rule of thumb I go by with my PC's under full load.
<edit> I would also add that while our phones are not desktops/laptops/workstations, the CPU's can all handle around the same temperatures in all devices. Materials used and manufacturing techniques are almost identical. The solder used has a melting point of around 180C - 190C, so there is no fear of melting the solder. The main difference is that phones do not have active cooling, so you will see much larger jumps and swings in temperature. This being the reason you cannot OC in the extreme ways you can with PC's.
i read a post somewhere that 75 degrees c was the max it should go to, anything higher is way too much
I read somewhere that if you overheat yer phone it eventually breaks. Pretty much it. Just don't let it out in the sun too long or anything silly. However, keep in mind that if you do break your phone, you can always donate it to XDA. I think they're looking for bricked and broken phones.
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Guys, I will repeat this just one more time. DO NOT let your CPU temperature get higher than 50C... Constant minor overheating causes long term damage to your phone, shortens it's life span.
One major overheating can toast your phone just like that.
These aren't desktop PCs, use common sense. Overclocking to higher than 15% doesn't come unpunished.
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Mine gets above 50C, and usualy around 57C, every time I open any kind of game... Should I be worried?
I would like to start a discussion about extending your battery life. For daily usage, battery life is sufficient, but for long trips like intercontinental flights, train travelling or car journeys, power cuts, forgetting your charger somewhere, battery life of any smartphone would not be enough.
I personally have a spare battery, which gives you double battery life, at very low costs (€8,-). What other extra's do you guys use to improve battery life, and how do you use those extra's?
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I under clock the phone to 700 when I don't need the processing power. Also use scheduling apps to auto sync on a schedule. Saves me a lot of juice.
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1. Portable charger
2. Solar Charger
3. Extra battery
4. Deep sleep your phone when not needed. (Most phones automatically switches to deep sleep mode, even if not rooted)
5. Get a nokia.
Underclock your phone! saves a lotta battery!
Disable data, the phone can go for up to 2 days with data disabled.
Get a razr maxx
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dragonizer said:
5. Get a nokia.
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That just made me lol :laugh:
TheDarkDefender said:
Underclock your phone! saves a lotta battery!
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:thumbup: do this
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sdk16420 said:
I would like to start a discussion about extending your battery life. For daily usage, battery life is sufficient, but for long trips like intercontinental flights, train travelling or car journeys, power cuts, forgetting your charger somewhere, battery life of any smartphone would not be enough.
I personally have a spare battery, which gives you double battery life, at very low costs (€8,-). What other extra's do you guys use to improve battery life, and how do you use those extra's?
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I put my neo in airplane mode! in the other day was down only 1%! i do this when my battery is in the end! at night when i go sleep!
(sorry, google translate here rsrsrsrsrs)
Undercloking saves nothing.
I just dont get it why people say underclock it will help.
NO IT WONT HELP.
I find underclocking stupid.
Underclocking from 1GHZ to 700MHZ is not going to save your ass.
Except if you underclock to 200mhz then yes you will save a lot of battery but you will make the phone almost unusable.
Just disable the light sensor.
It is sucking battery while using your phone and also it will give you more brightness.
Ah and undervolting is not reccomended in any situation
AND FOR THOSE WHO RECCOMEND Underclock just to let you know smartassV2 has been ported for locked bootloader so just use it.
Underclock wont help you.
And also dont reduce minimum clock to 100mhz because 100mhz need more power than 200mhz (yeah it sound strange but it has been proven and it is... just strange.)
@martirio3000: ok, can you give some references?
Where I can find smartassV2 governor for locked bootloader...
Where it has been proven that "100mhz need more power than 200mhz"...
I may trust you, but I want to learn more about...
Thanks
Set brightness lower, always turn off wifi, data, bluetooth, use task killer, that can help a lot
You really don't need a task killer as the apps you "kill" restart immediately.
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-turn off wifi when not using it
-turn off data when not using it
- use portable charger
it's save my battery life :good:
Bertellio said:
@martirio3000: ok, can you give some references?
Where I can find smartassV2 governor for locked bootloader...
Where it has been proven that "100mhz need more power than 200mhz"...
I may trust you, but I want to learn more about...
Thanks
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don't know about underclocking. but 200 MHz helps only for dual core devices..not for single cores.. I read on galaxy s2 forum
martirio3000 said:
Undercloking saves nothing.
I just dont get it why people say underclock it will help.
NO IT WONT HELP.
I find underclocking stupid.
Underclocking from 1GHZ to 700MHZ is not going to save your ass.
Except if you underclock to 200mhz then yes you will save a lot of battery but you will make the phone almost unusable.
Just disable the light sensor.
It is sucking battery while using your phone and also it will give you more brightness.
Ah and undervolting is not reccomended in any situation
AND FOR THOSE WHO RECCOMEND Underclock just to let you know smartassV2 has been ported for locked bootloader so just use it.
Underclock wont help you.
And also dont reduce minimum clock to 100mhz because 100mhz need more power than 200mhz (yeah it sound strange but it has been proven and it is... just strange.)
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Not lower clock, but lower voltages, hence lower current, hence lower resulting power is what saves battery. But basically yeah, to lower the voltage, you will most probably have to underclock.
CPU
MAX: 460
MIN : 245
GOV: conservative
Saves a lot of battery and the phone is usable like nothing happens, this way you can see which ROMs are the best too. Those values work best on GingerBread since it it is designed to run very smoothly on low-end devices with low-powered processors. To fully enjoy your phone, use GingerBread. Preferably use Codename.
Longer Battery Life
I would suggest you to use the[APP]DeepSleep Battery Saver.
it's a great app with 6 different power saving modes and it really saves a lot of battery even with the mobile data ON.
u can find the app by searching in all forums.:good:
Nice decision
This external battery is kinda cool
Hey guys can u tell the best governor and i/o scheduler for my neo v running ultimate hd 2.0.3 and suave kernel.. I dont have much info about governors.. I need a decent battery life and multitasking only 2 apps at a time whatsapp nd tapatalk nd no games at all... Currently my battery life is 10 - 12 hours with data always on..
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koradiavatsal said:
Hey guys can u tell the best governor and i/o scheduler for my neo v running ultimate hd 2.0.3 and suave kernel.. I dont have much info about governors.. I need a decent battery life and multitasking only 2 apps at a time whatsapp nd tapatalk nd no games at all... Currently my battery life is 10 - 12 hours with data always on..
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I have the exact same set up with you ! A big reason that your battery life is short is that data is always on ! Also you can turn off wifi whenever you don't need it. There is also an app with which you can schedule when your wifi should be turned on or off.It is called WiFi Timer. Read about governors and schedulers here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989824
as there are a lot of them for all tastes and i can't reccomend you something specific
i m using cm7 stable rom on my p500........with overclocking min 480/max729 ,governor-performance,scheduler-cfg.....
is there any effect of overclocking on battery life or performance on mobile?
more performance but lower battery life.
Mmm ok I have some questions, what is a normal overclock to improve battery life but without sacrificing a lot of performance.
And the other way around, an overclock that improves some performance without sacrificing too much battery.
What are the "optimal" values of an overclock (Without making the phone unstable)
I would just overclock until you get phone instability or you go as far as you can for the current kernel (I'm on AOKP 4.0.4 and it's 787 max which is what I'm at).
Battery life doesn't get affected that much because it's mostly drain when playing games where it ramps up to the max clock speed, at which point you're draining a lot of battery anyways.
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I would just overclock until you get phone instability or you go as far as you can for the current kernel (I'm on AOKP 4.0.4 and it's 787 max which is what I'm at).
Battery life doesn't get affected that much because it's mostly drain when playing games where it ramps up to the max clock speed, at which point you're draining a lot of battery anyways.
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Thanks, I also have AOKP so I'm going to work around it a bit, how can I test stability?
Go to Rom Control.. Performance.
Remember to UNCHECK " Set at boot" option.. so that if anything happens.. it can return to default value after a reboot.
If random reboots or white screen appears or phone hangs.. its not stable.
I'll rephrase my question, what type of test can I do to ensure I have a stable overclock. I don't want to find my phone turned off out of the blue and maybe missed an alarm or what not. Thanks anyhow for the tips
Just do general usage. If it works fine for 2 weeks at a specific clock, it's likely to be okay.
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I'll rephrase my question, what type of test can I do to ensure I have a stable overclock. I don't want to find my phone turned off out of the blue and maybe missed an alarm or what not. Thanks anyhow for the tips
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You will only know by using. The CPU manufacturers label a chip ancertain speed because it fails a test at the next level. That means that some chips can handle faster than others. They are guaranteed to be stable at the rated speed.
There is no formula
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Thank you everyone who helped me in here
Overclocking kills lifespan of processor...
Dwars said:
Overclocking kills lifespan of processor...
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Not necessarily. Voltage and heat are usually what kills electrical components. Since our device can't change voltage for the CPU, that point is irrelevant. However, heat is a factor but AFAIK the heat from overclocking doesn't increase that much for this device, unlike something like PC CPUs so that's fine as well.
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Not necessarily. Voltage and heat are usually what kills electrical components. Since our device can't change voltage for the CPU, that point is irrelevant. However, heat is a factor but AFAIK the heat from overclocking doesn't increase that much for this device, unlike something like PC CPUs so that's fine as well.
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No, you can damage it. If it heats up, then:
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This is unfortunate, it is not even hot so I don't know what's up.
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There is the temp as says setCPU
Whats your max. level?
My one going only till 63%
Oh there a screenshoot attached.
Anyway its far higher than the 63% at 39C
Tim4 said:
Whats your max. level?
My one going only till 63%
Oh there a screenshoot attached.
Anyway its far higher than the 63% at 39C
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I am unsure if this is just over caution on their part of if this is something we need to be worried about... honesty even yours at 39c is not that hot 102 F which for a computer is whatever... but I thought this chip was supposed to run cooler and everything being the new architecture.
I have been doing a lot of CPU testing and noticed a couple of things:
First of all the issue with the screen not turning brighter is simple: the heat within the device reached a certain limit that could potentially damage it.
the CPU, RAM and the screen light are the main culprit. Especially the CPU and RAM, try CPU stats and after heavy use you will notice the phone gets warm/hot and the freq gets capped out at 1.1 GHz by the kernel. This is mainly to reduce the heat obviously....I guess keeping the phone running at 1.5 GHz with all 4 cores and the screen cranked up to max will definitely turn the phone into a Coleman stove in no time.
So i guess this powerful CPU doesn't do any better than any dual core running constantly and stable for the same amount of time to crunch performance levels. Sigh...I guess until they wont figure out to make things run cooler powerful CPU's wont get far-only on paper
Just my 2 cents
gafalas said:
I have been doing a lot of CPU testing and noticed a couple of things:
First of all the issue with the screen not turning brighter is simple: the heat within the device reached a certain limit that could potentially damage it.
the CPU, RAM and the screen light are the main culprit. Especially the CPU and RAM, try CPU stats and after heavy use you will notice the phone gets warm/hot and the freq gets capped out at 1.1 GHz by the kernel. This is mainly to reduce the heat obviously....I guess keeping the phone running at 1.5 GHz with all 4 cores and the screen cranked up to max will definitely turn the phone into a Coleman stove in no time.
So i guess this powerful CPU doesn't do any better than any dual core running constantly and stable for the same amount of time to crunch performance levels. Sigh...I guess until they wont figure out to make things run cooler powerful CPU's wont get far-only on paper
Just my 2 cents
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You are right on point. I have seen it drop (I believe to 1180) when running a bunch of benchmarks. The manufacturer sets the heat threshold at a very safe level. Kernel devs are usually able to safely bump that up another 10 to 15 degrees. I am one of the lucky ones that got the variant 3 of the international One X. Variant 3 was the strongest version and I ran all 4 cores at 1600 with 51 minimum. Faux usually figures out how to uncap and raise the throttle temperature... but he's on a N4. I am going to keep an eye on the kernel threads there and see how far they push things. Chainfire's "PerfMod" app is perfect to watch this while running different apps
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Hello,
I have been noticing my pocophone beeing sometimes laggy (so laggy that I think of throwing it into a wall) and sometimes, it freezes for few seconds (sometimes, I even have to force reboot it),
So I decided to try few things,
I started monitoring my cpu clock, and doing some benchmarks.
as opposed to the scores on geekbench 5 website, which are respectively 438 and 1745 for single and multi core performance, I get only 300 and 1096 scores!
as for the clock of my cpy, it never surpasses 1.8 ghz, while the advertised clock of the cpu is 2.8ghz!
Also, the performance cores rarely go higher than 576 mhz, even during benchmark!
Note that my device is fully stock (no root, locked bootloader, with the latest global update installed, android 10, miui 11)
So I am wondering, are you guys getting those scores or is it just me? and do custom roms have the same issue?
If this is caused by XIAOMI Software, I think this is totally unacceptable!
After recent updates antutu and geekbench scored declined, poco is doing underclocking cpu to make users force to buy new poco phone....it is really disturbing....i actually gonna root my phone and install pixel rom.
The Miui kernel of Pocophone F1 is capping the CPU at 2.09 GHz, I really don't know why but I think it's something to keep it cool and to enhance battery life
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Unlock, install twrp and No gravity kernel. I get 360 000-370 000 in antutu with it. It also have a free kernel app.
OsGhaly said:
The Miui kernel of Pocophone F1 is capping the CPU at 2.09 GHz, I really don't know why but I think it's something to keep it cool and to enhance battery life View attachment 5019903
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Which MIUI version is this, exactly? Android Pie/Q ? 11.0.5.0/11.0.6.0 ? Thanks!
ayush2901 said:
Which MIUI version is this, exactly? Android Pie/Q ? 11.0.5.0/11.0.6.0 ? Thanks!
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Latest Miui stable 11.0.8.0 Android Q
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OsGhaly said:
The Miui kernel of Pocophone F1 is capping the CPU at 2.09 GHz, I really don't know why but I think it's something to keep it cool and to enhance battery life View attachment 5019903
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Yup! It all depends on temps. It will throttle more as your phone gets hotter. If you live in a hot region there's nothing you can do. Just try to use it in cooler environments. And overclocking on mobile devices is not efficient. It is just there to tell you that you can.
callmebutcher101 said:
Yup! It all depends on temps. It will throttle more as your phone gets hotter. If you live in a hot region there's nothing you can do. Just try to use it in cooler environments. And overclocking on mobile devices is not efficient. It is just there to tell you that you can.
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Totally agree, but even if the phone is cool and the room temperature is 16 for example, the Pocophone F1 won't go over 2.09 GHz!.. This limitation made by miui kernel, no matter how hot or cool the phone is.
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OsGhaly said:
Totally agree, but even if the phone is cool and the room temperature is 16 for example, the Pocophone F1 won't go over 2.09 GHz!.. This limitation made by miui kernel, no matter how hot or cool the phone is.
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Even though I have never stayed on miui for over a week, I never had these issues. Wierd.
Well if the bootloader is locked only thing one can try is formatting the phone.
So I have charged my phone all night, and it seems magically fixed! (spoiler alert, not really)
It seems like it is a battery issue, under a certain battery percentage, miui will cap your cpu, even without turning on battery saver! because now, my cpu gets to 2.6 ghz, but still, the phone is so laggy, sometimes unusable laggy, as if it didn't have a flagship chip in it!
I have tested and I completely agree that the CPU is highly dependent on Battery Level. Even while plugged in (while low) the CPU scores are lower than should be.
But anything above 60% and you get what you expect. I'm assuming they are using the Apple version of extending battery life where they throttle CPU to make a dying battery last a bit longer. Remember that battery loses 10% first year, 30% second year and significantly more the years that follow.
borchaniz said:
So I have charged my phone all night, and it seems magically fixed! (spoiler alert, not really)
It seems like it is a battery issue, under a certain battery percentage, miui will cap your cpu, even without turning on battery saver! because now, my cpu gets to 2.6 ghz, but still, the phone is so laggy, sometimes unusable laggy, as if it didn't have a flagship chip in it!
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Yup. MIui shuts a few thing off on low battery regardless if you have turned on battery saver or not. GPS is one example, I don't get location below 20% battery even if I'm floating next to GPS satellite.
borchaniz said:
So I have charged my phone all night, and it seems magically fixed! (spoiler alert, not really)
It seems like it is a battery issue, under a certain battery percentage, miui will cap your cpu, even without turning on battery saver! because now, my cpu gets to 2.6 ghz, but still, the phone is so laggy, sometimes unusable laggy, as if it didn't have a flagship chip in it!
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I can assure you that this thing is not related to battery level at all, as my battery now is over 70% and it's still capped to 1.84 GHz..!
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OsGhaly said:
I can assure you that this thing is not related to battery level at all, as my battery now is over 70% and it's still capped to 1.84 GHz..!
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Which app are you using to test?
Alrich said:
Which app are you using to test?
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CPU throttling test and CPU monitor
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I see no issues here.
I don't know what's wrong with you guys' phones but my CPU clocks all the way to 2.8.
Fully stock MIUI 11.0.8 Android 10.
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CPU throttling test and CPU monitor
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Your temperature is too high! 56 degree is CPU temp or battery temp?
GopalKaul said:
Your temperature is too high! 56 degree is CPU temp or battery temp?
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Either way, whether CPU or Battery, it isn't normal temperature and it completely explains why he's facing the issues. It's normally around Summer where most posts like these begin and people don't even take into consideration that factor.
I can confirm this. MIUI kernel is limiting the performance factor by a huge extent. On latest 11.0.9.0 ROM the big cluster is capped at 1.8ghz even when phone is kept next to air conditioner and fully charged.
After flashing a custom ROM or kernel, the issues disappeared. Phone performance was back to buttery smooth and no throttling even in 35C ambient temperature.
Yes i had the same issue. As phone became laggy, i became frustrated.
Unlocked the bootloader and flashed a custom rom and kernel.
The device now so smooth and free. I am loving it now.
If you want to stay on MIUI(but i suggest you use PE10+ rom), and ok with rooting, do it and install some kernel manager like FK kernel manager. Now you can clock your cpu and gpu as you like. Overclock it when you are doing some intensive gaming or underclock it when you want to save battery. Moreover now you can charge your device faster. MIUI limits the charging volt/amph but you can change that too. Advance Charging control App helps with that. It can charge up to certain % which you can set after which it automatically disconnects charger so leave your device connected to charger and it won't harm your battery.
If you do it and it helps then thank me later?.