Hello,
I have been noticing my pocophone beeing sometimes laggy (so laggy that I think of throwing it into a wall) and sometimes, it freezes for few seconds (sometimes, I even have to force reboot it),
So I decided to try few things,
I started monitoring my cpu clock, and doing some benchmarks.
as opposed to the scores on geekbench 5 website, which are respectively 438 and 1745 for single and multi core performance, I get only 300 and 1096 scores!
as for the clock of my cpy, it never surpasses 1.8 ghz, while the advertised clock of the cpu is 2.8ghz!
Also, the performance cores rarely go higher than 576 mhz, even during benchmark!
Note that my device is fully stock (no root, locked bootloader, with the latest global update installed, android 10, miui 11)
So I am wondering, are you guys getting those scores or is it just me? and do custom roms have the same issue?
If this is caused by XIAOMI Software, I think this is totally unacceptable!
After recent updates antutu and geekbench scored declined, poco is doing underclocking cpu to make users force to buy new poco phone....it is really disturbing....i actually gonna root my phone and install pixel rom.
The Miui kernel of Pocophone F1 is capping the CPU at 2.09 GHz, I really don't know why but I think it's something to keep it cool and to enhance battery life
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Unlock, install twrp and No gravity kernel. I get 360 000-370 000 in antutu with it. It also have a free kernel app.
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The Miui kernel of Pocophone F1 is capping the CPU at 2.09 GHz, I really don't know why but I think it's something to keep it cool and to enhance battery life View attachment 5019903
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Which MIUI version is this, exactly? Android Pie/Q ? 11.0.5.0/11.0.6.0 ? Thanks!
ayush2901 said:
Which MIUI version is this, exactly? Android Pie/Q ? 11.0.5.0/11.0.6.0 ? Thanks!
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Latest Miui stable 11.0.8.0 Android Q
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OsGhaly said:
The Miui kernel of Pocophone F1 is capping the CPU at 2.09 GHz, I really don't know why but I think it's something to keep it cool and to enhance battery life View attachment 5019903
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Yup! It all depends on temps. It will throttle more as your phone gets hotter. If you live in a hot region there's nothing you can do. Just try to use it in cooler environments. And overclocking on mobile devices is not efficient. It is just there to tell you that you can.
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Yup! It all depends on temps. It will throttle more as your phone gets hotter. If you live in a hot region there's nothing you can do. Just try to use it in cooler environments. And overclocking on mobile devices is not efficient. It is just there to tell you that you can.
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Totally agree, but even if the phone is cool and the room temperature is 16 for example, the Pocophone F1 won't go over 2.09 GHz!.. This limitation made by miui kernel, no matter how hot or cool the phone is.
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OsGhaly said:
Totally agree, but even if the phone is cool and the room temperature is 16 for example, the Pocophone F1 won't go over 2.09 GHz!.. This limitation made by miui kernel, no matter how hot or cool the phone is.
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Even though I have never stayed on miui for over a week, I never had these issues. Wierd.
Well if the bootloader is locked only thing one can try is formatting the phone.
So I have charged my phone all night, and it seems magically fixed! (spoiler alert, not really)
It seems like it is a battery issue, under a certain battery percentage, miui will cap your cpu, even without turning on battery saver! because now, my cpu gets to 2.6 ghz, but still, the phone is so laggy, sometimes unusable laggy, as if it didn't have a flagship chip in it!
I have tested and I completely agree that the CPU is highly dependent on Battery Level. Even while plugged in (while low) the CPU scores are lower than should be.
But anything above 60% and you get what you expect. I'm assuming they are using the Apple version of extending battery life where they throttle CPU to make a dying battery last a bit longer. Remember that battery loses 10% first year, 30% second year and significantly more the years that follow.
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So I have charged my phone all night, and it seems magically fixed! (spoiler alert, not really)
It seems like it is a battery issue, under a certain battery percentage, miui will cap your cpu, even without turning on battery saver! because now, my cpu gets to 2.6 ghz, but still, the phone is so laggy, sometimes unusable laggy, as if it didn't have a flagship chip in it!
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Yup. MIui shuts a few thing off on low battery regardless if you have turned on battery saver or not. GPS is one example, I don't get location below 20% battery even if I'm floating next to GPS satellite.
borchaniz said:
So I have charged my phone all night, and it seems magically fixed! (spoiler alert, not really)
It seems like it is a battery issue, under a certain battery percentage, miui will cap your cpu, even without turning on battery saver! because now, my cpu gets to 2.6 ghz, but still, the phone is so laggy, sometimes unusable laggy, as if it didn't have a flagship chip in it!
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I can assure you that this thing is not related to battery level at all, as my battery now is over 70% and it's still capped to 1.84 GHz..!
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OsGhaly said:
I can assure you that this thing is not related to battery level at all, as my battery now is over 70% and it's still capped to 1.84 GHz..!
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Which app are you using to test?
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Which app are you using to test?
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CPU throttling test and CPU monitor
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I see no issues here.
I don't know what's wrong with you guys' phones but my CPU clocks all the way to 2.8.
Fully stock MIUI 11.0.8 Android 10.
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CPU throttling test and CPU monitor
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Your temperature is too high! 56 degree is CPU temp or battery temp?
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Your temperature is too high! 56 degree is CPU temp or battery temp?
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Either way, whether CPU or Battery, it isn't normal temperature and it completely explains why he's facing the issues. It's normally around Summer where most posts like these begin and people don't even take into consideration that factor.
I can confirm this. MIUI kernel is limiting the performance factor by a huge extent. On latest 11.0.9.0 ROM the big cluster is capped at 1.8ghz even when phone is kept next to air conditioner and fully charged.
After flashing a custom ROM or kernel, the issues disappeared. Phone performance was back to buttery smooth and no throttling even in 35C ambient temperature.
Yes i had the same issue. As phone became laggy, i became frustrated.
Unlocked the bootloader and flashed a custom rom and kernel.
The device now so smooth and free. I am loving it now.
If you want to stay on MIUI(but i suggest you use PE10+ rom), and ok with rooting, do it and install some kernel manager like FK kernel manager. Now you can clock your cpu and gpu as you like. Overclock it when you are doing some intensive gaming or underclock it when you want to save battery. Moreover now you can charge your device faster. MIUI limits the charging volt/amph but you can change that too. Advance Charging control App helps with that. It can charge up to certain % which you can set after which it automatically disconnects charger so leave your device connected to charger and it won't harm your battery.
If you do it and it helps then thank me later?.
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Has anyone played with the profiles for this app to get optimal performance and better battery. Life of so post your results and share your profiles thank you
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Other than that it is always set to 816/216.
I usually get about 5 hours screen time and about 20 hours standby. Email and Calender sync at 1 hr, with a custom power profile that turns data off after 15 minutes between 3a-9a. I'm happy with it
Girgizzlemuf said:
Other than that it is always set to 816/216.
I usually get about 5 hours screen time and about 20 hours standby. Email and Calender sync at 1 hr, with a custom power profile that turns data off after 15 minutes between 3a-9a. I'm happy with it
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Your profiles are similar to what I use, although I don't have one for charging/charging A/C
Also, you run 816/216 rest of the time? Aren't you short-changing your phone's capabilities a bit though ... ? I find the biggest different is having screen-off profile.
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Your profiles are similar to what I use, although I don't have one for charging/charging A/C
Also, you run 816/216 rest of the time? Aren't you short-changing your phone's capabilities a bit though ... ? I find the biggest different is having screen-off profile.
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Not really. I change it to 1000/216 if it's spectral souls, gun bros or a benchmark. Angry birds plays on my fuze (lol) so i don't change it there. I have noticed little to no difference running 1000/216 on launcher screens, pictures, data rates or anything versus 816/216. If i bump it down to the 700 range then things get laggy, but as it sits 816 runs everything almost flawlessly.
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Not really. I change it to 1000/216 if it's spectral souls, gun bros or a benchmark. Angry birds plays on my fuze (lol) so i don't change it there. I have noticed little to no difference running 1000/216 on launcher screens, pictures, data rates or anything versus 816/216. If i bump it down to the 700 range then things get laggy, but as it sits 816 runs everything almost flawlessly.
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Good to know, thanks! I'll try that, maybe squeeze out a little more battery life than I am now What are you averaging? I can go about 1.5 days with good usage as it stands
Strange, I can't have more than 15 hours if moderate usage...
I have similar profiles to the screenshot posted above, but I don't have one for when powered. The main profile on mine is 1000 max ~400 min. I've found that keeping the min ~400 makes the device always snappy without sacking much battery life.
I also use JuiceDefender to manage my data syncing. I leave the blur battery profile at high performance.
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Good to know, thanks! I'll try that, maybe squeeze out a little more battery life than I am now What are you averaging? I can go about 1.5 days with good usage as it stands
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Depends on the day. If its a day off, i get ~30 hours with ~6 hours screen time from 100%-10%. Most days though i don't notice much, I drive around a lot listening to pandora in my car dock so its constantly being charged
If I can tear myself away from pandora for a day i'll repost something more meaningful.
On a side note, I notice with circle battery widget I usually get the slowest drain between 80% and 40%, not sure if anyone else has noticed this.
Small update to what I said earlier..
With my profiles, and all the crap running in the background this is what i got now from 100%-31%
1d3h11m since unplug
1d0h25m idle time
3h04m display
0h45m spectral souls (!)
Would go further but I am gonna be away from a charger all day tomorrow
i get the same battery life with setcpu and a display off profile than with no setcpu at all. my guess is that the battery saved gets wasted on setcpu itself.
I have the phone on from 7:30am to 12 midnight with no calls and 1 hour display time and i have just 40% less. No wifi at anytime.
Apps i only have gmail, no other email accounts, twitter at 15 minutes and whatsapp
franciscojavierleon said:
i get the same battery life with setcpu and a display off profile than with no setcpu at all. my guess is that the battery saved gets wasted on setcpu itself.
I have the phone on from 7:30am to 12 midnight with no calls and 1 hour display time and i have just 40% less. No wifi at anytime.
Apps i only have gmail, no other email accounts, twitter at 15 minutes and whatsapp
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You got something else wrong. SetCPU will definitely not drain the life it saves. you must have a beast app running in the back somewhere...
also, what kernel/rom are you running?
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You got something else wrong. SetCPU will definitely not drain the life it saves. you must have a beast app running in the back somewhere...
also, what kernel/rom are you running?
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lol what??
what kernel? since when there its custom kernels :rolleyes
i get like 12 hours in my normal day i guess its to few :s but streaming music over BT like 4 hours and surfing web forums tweetdeck. not impressed battery for my usage :S
perhaps seems better than my N1. and seems when i enable data it drain more faster like 5% per hour screen off, and no data like 1% or 2
zen kun said:
lol what??
what kernel? since when there its custom kernels :rolleyes
i get like 12 hours in my normal day i guess its to few :s but streaming music over BT like 4 hours and surfing web forums tweetdeck. not impressed battery for my usage :S
perhaps seems better than my N1. and seems when i enable data it drain more faster like 5% per hour screen off, and no data like 1% or 2
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Yes, my question was pretty straight forward...what kernel are you running. From your response I see your English may be the issue here.
Anyway, reason I ask is because some kernels such as BFS kernels don't really play nice with my phone nor battery. So maybe the issue is with the kernel being used.
"::rollseyes::"
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Yes, my question was pretty straight forward...what kernel are you running. From your response I see your English may be the issue here.
Anyway, reason I ask is because some kernels such as BFS kernels don't really play nice with my phone nor battery. So maybe the issue is with the kernel being used.
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Bootloader is signed on the phone. No custom kernels.
We currently have 4 options on att and like... one on bell i believe. Mine is stock motorola 4.1.57 with gladiatrix2 pseudo-rom
I did forget to mention that i'd sent like 40 text messages and replied to a half dozen emails.
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Yes, my question was pretty straight forward...what kernel are you running. From your response I see your English may be the issue here.
Anyway, reason I ask is because some kernels such as BFS kernels don't really play nice with my phone nor battery. So maybe the issue is with the kernel being used.
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/sigh. XDA, a wealth of information, but a lack of patience and reading comprehension.
Anyway, I feel like the Atrix does better than the Evo with battery life. I might try fiddling with SetCPU, so thanks for the info.
HTC Desire with stock Froyo ROM
I've been using SetCPU 2.1.1a recently and have noticed no difference in battery life. Is SetCPU a placebo as far as battery life is concerned?
My settings:
Charging = Max. 998 / Min. 998
Screen Off = Max. 245 / Min. 245
Battery < 101% = Max. 998 / Min. 245
Battery < 25% = Max. 499 / Min. 245
If I "Disable Perflock" SetCPU says "Success: Perflock appears to be disabled".
Some say it increases their battery life, are they imagining it? I'm not interested in over clocking. I'd be very willing to buy it, if it increased my battery life. Thanks
Why are people using Setcpu to try to save battery life?
The whole point of Tegra 2 is ultra low voltage operation when the system is inactive..
Its absolutely counter-productive to use setcpu to try to already do what the chipset itself is made to do and not half as effectively.
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Why are people using Setcpu to try to save battery life?
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Because plenty of people say it helps. Hence my question. I'm guessing you pessimistic?
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The whole point of Tegra 2 is ultra low voltage operation when the system is inactive..
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The Tegra 2 is only in certain Android devices.
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Because plenty of people say it helps. Hence my question. I'm guessing you pessimistic?
The Tegra 2 is only in certain Android devices.
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it may only be in certain ones, but it DEFINITELY in the atrix....which is this section in which you're posting...
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it may only be in certain ones, but it DEFINITELY in the atrix....which is this section in which you're posting...
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This thread is covering more than the Atrix. I didn't want to start yet another thread about this, when there are already plenty. Besides the main SetCPU thread (with the download links) is in the HTC Dream section and that phone's ancient.
If someone can answer my questions please.
Hey everyone...
So today while i was trying to download an app, my cpu temperature became 63C (145F).
I was wondering if this temp is even possible and what the temperature the phone is set to turn itself off at.
EDIT: Moto Atrix btw, tegra2 processor
I'm not sure about a mobile processor, but a desktop processor can well above 70, 80, or even 90 under heavy load.
63C sounds wayyy too high for a low voltage/power mobile cpu. Then again its hard to say, as the mobile chips are passively cooled.
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I was able to achieve overheat at a balmy 131°... I was driving in my car, it was charging and running navigation/trapster/iheartradio... I also live in Florida.
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I have also seen 63. And suprising to me its one of the few times it didn't reboot
56 is normal "hot" for me.
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GatorRuss said:
I was able to achieve overheat at a balmy 131°... I was driving in my car, it was charging and running navigation/trapster/iheartradio... I also live in Florida.
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thats your battery though, i am talking about processor.
I wopuld assume that this temperature is damaging to phone itself, i just wonder what the overheat level for the nvidia tegra2 is.
hmmm, still very intrigued. part of me wants to runn my phone as hot as it can till it over heats and reboots, and part of me is saying im a dumba** for even thinking of that, lol.
EDIT: just wanted to say im running greyblur, if that affects anything at all, lol.
Haha, I guess I really don't know much about mobile hardware then ^^
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Haha, I guess I really don't know much about mobile hardware then ^^
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I probably know more for hardware than software, don't feel bad, lol
But, actually, overheat status isn't true overheat function. When there is a true overheat, the phone either turns off or reboots itself. When the battery becomes too hot, the processor ignores that in most cases, while if the processor itself gets hot, it shuts itself down.
Yay, my first true member post, not junior anymore!!!! hahaha
I am also getting these high tempuratures on my cpu and not my battery.
My idle tempurature lowest was 35C and averages 55C and my highest was 70C and averages 65C. I really need help on how to fix this. My battery temp is around 40C
I set up a SetCPU profile so that if the CPU temp reaches 60C, it will max out the processor at 750 Mhz. For me, it pretty much cools off instantly. You may want to set yours lower. It doesn't reach that level often.
I've started a thread early today regarding the atrix's heat issues. Soon as I started playing games on my Atrix I got pretty scared with the temperature I felt on the exterior, and more scared after using temp. monitor apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249757
The idea is to mod the phone to help dissipating heat. Besides undervolting with setcpu I guess there isnt much that can be done at software level to reduce the main chip's heat.
The ideas are still being formulated. I opened the thread so I could get some help and suggestion from other atrix owners, to have a good idea of what to do when I finally open my phone
If anyone wants to try it or have any ideas, please comment there!
WolfFX, your link has actual "...." in the URL and doesn't work.
Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
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WolfFX, your link has actual "...." in the URL and doesn't work.
Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
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Thanks man, I've corrected it. It got messed up due to copy - paste.
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Regarding maximum temperature before shutdown, I'm wondering if anyone has EVER seen their phone shut off due to high heat? Does it even happen? I'm not meaning reboot either, but actual shut down to cool off.
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Yeah. Left the screen to never time up and setcpu to stress test. Left it on my bed covered by a pillow (accidents do happen, I'm quite forgetful and idiotic). Came back and the phone was in "emergency cool down mode"
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with faux 1.9 ive seen temps as high as 165± if its reading right and i did have profiles to back it down to 1100 but it hasnt shut off "yet"
unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
Guys, I will repeat this just one more time. DO NOT let your CPU temperature get higher than 50C... Constant minor overheating causes long term damage to your phone, shortens it's life span.
One major overheating can toast your phone just like that.
These aren't desktop PCs, use common sense. Overclocking to higher than 15% doesn't come unpunished.
Also posted the same in the other operating temperature thread.
Did a bunch of looking around and after a while found some white papers with the following temperature ranges:
General operating temps of -40C to +85C.
Practical usage will start to drop off below -20C and above +70C.
This tells me that our safe operating range should be limited to the practical usage temperatures. Anything outside of these and there is a good chance you will see performance drop off fast, and also may suffer hardware lockups, etc.
Personally I will stick to +65C which is the rule of thumb I go by with my PC's under full load.
<edit> I would also add that while our phones are not desktops/laptops/workstations, the CPU's can all handle around the same temperatures in all devices. Materials used and manufacturing techniques are almost identical. The solder used has a melting point of around 180C - 190C, so there is no fear of melting the solder. The main difference is that phones do not have active cooling, so you will see much larger jumps and swings in temperature. This being the reason you cannot OC in the extreme ways you can with PC's.
i read a post somewhere that 75 degrees c was the max it should go to, anything higher is way too much
I read somewhere that if you overheat yer phone it eventually breaks. Pretty much it. Just don't let it out in the sun too long or anything silly. However, keep in mind that if you do break your phone, you can always donate it to XDA. I think they're looking for bricked and broken phones.
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Guys, I will repeat this just one more time. DO NOT let your CPU temperature get higher than 50C... Constant minor overheating causes long term damage to your phone, shortens it's life span.
One major overheating can toast your phone just like that.
These aren't desktop PCs, use common sense. Overclocking to higher than 15% doesn't come unpunished.
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Mine gets above 50C, and usualy around 57C, every time I open any kind of game... Should I be worried?
Hi friends,
I wanted to ask that does overclocking damage the mobile processor and decrease its life in any way. I want to use a Megatron rom but i am afraid to do so, kindly help me out.
Another question i wanted to ask is how to check if my mobile is running baseband or new baseband.
I have LG Optimus One Android version 2.3.3 default rom.
Regards,
Pravin
If you installed GB via official update,then you have new baseband.
About overclocking:
Every processor support a max frequency.Mine supports about 710 mhz.But,I overclocked it to 806,put the phone on "set on boot" and it kept rebooting for 5+ times.However,this didn't affected my processor.I don't think that overclock can damage your phone in any way.Also,until 729 mHz you'll get the same battery performances as at 600 mHz.Just OC until 691 mhz first time and play smth for 5 minutes.If it doesn't reboot( also know as KP = kERNEL pANIC) , then go on until 710,729,748,etc.Until you get KP.After,select the last working value and enjoy.
pravin_pran said:
Hi friends,
I wanted to ask that does overclocking damage the mobile processor and decrease its life in any way. I want to use a Megatron rom but i am afraid to do so, kindly help me out.
Another question i wanted to ask is how to check if my mobile is running baseband or new baseband.
I have LG Optimus One Android version 2.3.3 default rom.
Regards,
Pravin
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I dont think the overclocking can damage the phone, in the worst case it can heat up the phone slightly (which i experienced on stock ROM using franco's kernal)
The worst thing that can happen is that the phone will heat up after 1-2 hours like galaxy s and s2 do in 10 mins...
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Problems of Overclocking:
1.Decrease in battery life because we are increasing the voltage output.
2.Overclocking causes heating which can lead to damage to other hardware components and again damage to battery.
But since these effects are very minimal and are hardly noticeable(and in with most kernels, processor usage is controlled by good governors) in our phones there is no serious harm in overclocking and will only improve performance.
rishabh22 said:
Problems of Overclocking:
1.Decrease in battery life because we are increasing the voltage output.
2.Overclocking causes heating which can lead to damage to other hardware components and again damage to battery.
But since these effects are very minimal and are hardly noticeable(and in with most kernels, processor usage is controlled by good governors) in our phones there is no serious harm in overclocking and will only improve performance.
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Heating is not that bad, unless you are a sick gamer or surfer...
Our device uses same voltage for 122-480 and 600-864, so the battery taken is not that bad...
Edit: the phone NEVER gets over 40°C unless there are 35° air temperature, you hold it very hard in your hand or it has a protection...
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Once I broke my phone with KDZ and took it to Service Center...
When I got it back, they said that also motherboard was damaged. I tried to look like a fool and acted that I'm surprised.
I'm pretty sure this is because of OC. Don't use higher than 787mhz.
Edit: Oh, and before this problem, I got GPS lock in 1.5 minutes. Now it's in about 10 seconds.
vlt96 said:
Heating is not that bad, unless you are a sick gamer or surfer...
Our device uses same voltage for 122-480 and 600-864, so the battery taken is not that bad...
Edit: the phone NEVER gets over 40°C unless there are 35° air temperature, you hold it very hard in your hand or it has a protection...
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Yeah thats why i said the effect is very minimal. And higher the processor usage obviously more the battery usage. So with kernels like the original lg one which does not have a very good governor(as far as i know) the processor tends to stay towards the max frequency range and hence higher voltage.
Yes,overclocking 'too much' can damage CPU and battery life.
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rishabh22 said:
Yeah thats why i said the effect is very minimal. And higher the processor usage obviously more the battery usage. So with kernels like the original lg one which does not have a very good governor(as far as i know) the processor tends to stay towards the max frequency range and hence higher voltage.
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Conservative is the best stock governor... it looks like interactive actually is much more battery saver than ondemand... which ALWAYS keeps at Max..(this is odd)
I love conservative, I am using it because it takes a minute to get Max performance, but then you have maximum performance... but when you do a short usage and keep minimum frequency at 122, there is a chance you will have no higher than 480...
Also, one thing I recommend is using maximum at 480 when idle and listening to music... phone tends to keep it at maximum always when awake and music in background... and 480 is smooth for small tasks... and really battery save!
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That's what i think too .
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OK lets put it this way..
Computers.. desktop for example.. are well known to be overclock..
CPU problems would be.. HEAT. it causes the processor to malfunction, reboots and worst to be cooked..
since are device is to small and 806mhz heats it up not much to burn.. its ok
but? it malfunction.
and overclocking SHORTENs your processor LIFE. that is true
Bad if too much
We are actually pushing the limits of our phone.
Too much of everything is bad..especially HEAT.
Beat the heat...
Battery drain is not a problem just as "vlt96" says.
It can decrease life of your mobile's processor as maufacturers claim.
729 Mhz or 748 Mhz should be sufficient for medium use.
So I recently went around, frustrated with first public 4.3, rooted that I had installed, installing some custom roms hoping for fix to stuttering with music and all this good stuff. Tried Android HD 50 and noticed my phone gets hot. Now every time I installed a rom I noticed that the phone tends to get hot on first boot cycle. I will boot off for 5 minutes, let it cool off, launch again never notice the same.
Now it seems to be permanent, and I installed 4.1.2 as last resort and it even happens with the official, pre 4.3 rom.
Simply put, the phone heats up, starts heating from just waking up the screen. Apparently according to better battery stats, the phone is MAINLY running at 1.4Ghz, even when just in homescreen or whatnot, instead 800Mhz. And the phone is heating up considerably in ANY use, be it me booting it, flicking some settings and that's it.
I was wondering if anyone else had experience, or if this is known and there is a fix? (Did not seem there was lot of threads about this).
CURRENTLY; I am running rooted, newest official 4.3 in NEE range UGMK6, rooted.
As current workaround I enabled power save mode for CPU limit only. Since I pinpointed the reason for heating up probably, but not why the phone wants to go to 1.4ghz for just the simpliest task.
Thank you already, even if this thread gets closed and I get told there was already discussion of this elsewhere (which the search did not pinpoint to me)
How long do u own your S3 mate?
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How long do u own your S3 mate?
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It's almost 2 years old. about 20 months more precise. Been dropped maybe few times, no screen shatter no nothing but mostly some plastic stuff.
This is somewhat recent phenomenom though.
Have you tried installing a custom kernel and limit the max freq ? Also the governor, as it seems to be "Performance" in your case. This governor keeps all 4 cores online, all at 1400mHz. Try @googy_anas 's GoogyMax2 kernel. You won't be disspaointed (it works for both 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, so it is easier to install).
Heat can be generated by the cpu or battery, sounds like your issue is with the cpu. If you have already tried a full wipe and official firmware then only hardware issue remains.
Either the cpu is damaged (ever overclocked it?) or the BGA connection to the motherboard is fatigued, causing high resistance and heat.
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Heat can be generated by the cpu or battery, sounds like your issue is with the cpu. If you have already tried a full wipe and official firmware then only hardware issue remains.
Either the cpu is damaged (ever overclocked it?) or the BGA connection to the motherboard is fatigued, causing high resistance and heat.
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Never overclocked to avoid possible damage and heck, it's s3 which still is pretty powerful handheld even today.
As for fatigued connection, possible; would that show up as cpu being at maximum clock rate all times? According to better battery stats, like said, my cpu is at 1.4ghz (1.0ghz in cpu power save mode) almost all of the time the scree is on. And I do not know if that is necessary for just homescreen or browser without much media content.
I would hope I do not need new one, the phone's completely paid in 4 months.
There should still be warranty if that is called for.
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Never overclocked to avoid possible damage and heck, it's s3 which still is pretty powerful handheld even today.
As for fatigued connection, possible; would that show up as cpu being at maximum clock rate all times? According to better battery stats, like said, my cpu is at 1.4ghz (1.0ghz in cpu power save mode) almost all of the time the scree is on. And I do not know if that is necessary for just homescreen or browser without much media content.
I would hope I do not need new one, the phone's completely paid in 4 months.
There should still be warranty if that is called for.
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Can u check ur governor?
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I was having the very same issues but only on certain ROMs. Stock ROM was a killer for me, during intensive browsing the machine was like a small heater. I decided to switch for CM and I had pleasant temps with that. Not so good experience with OmniROM. Finally I stayed with temasek who has an excellent ROM, i also managed to undervolt the CPU and GPU (and tweak the GPU stepping only to use frequencies in the 54 - 200Mhz interval) and not to use high frequencies (1200+ Mhz) via boeffla kernel settings. and since then, I have never had temp issues. It is quite amazing to see that the phone is able to decode a 20Mbps bitrate movie fluently @800 Mhz with only 2 cores active and 108Mhz GPU step.
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On stock?
2014rokas said:
I was having the very same issues but only on certain ROMs. Stock ROM was a killer for me, during intensive browsing the machine was like a small heater. I decided to switch for CM and I had pleasant temps with that. Not so good experience with OmniROM. Finally I stayed with temasek who has an excellent ROM, i also managed to undervolt the CPU and GPU (and tweak the GPU stepping only to use frequencies in the 54 - 200Mhz interval) and not to use high frequencies (1200+ Mhz) via boeffla kernel settings. and since then, I have never had temp issues. It is quite amazing to see that the phone is able to decode a 20Mbps bitrate movie fluently @800 Mhz with only 2 cores active and 108Mhz GPU step.
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Yeah... well I spent last few days "re ROMming" the phone left and right and not against experimenting this at all.
Though, for me I can notice the heat in minute from opening screen and launching browser or something like that, and in two it is already REALLY hot, Nothing I would call even intensive on stock already makes the potato in my hand noticeably warm, bot back and touching lower part of the screen...
And I am not exaggerating with the wording, I wrote this post on my cell and now it already is hot as 30min session of GTA or something.
My cpu ticks over at 300Mz when idling with screen on, see the attached. This is with all power saving options on. If yours is jammed at 1.4Ghz then either the kernel is corrupt (but you've reflashed) or the cpu has an internal issue.
Almost any app use will cause the cpu to jump to max frequency, so that doesn't mean anything.
All silicon is different, if yours is borderline specs then it may get warmer than another -provided the battery remains below 50 °C then no problem.
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My cpu ticks over at 300Mz when idling with screen on, see the attached. This is with all power saving options on. If yours is jammed at 1.4Ghz then either the kernel is corrupt (but you've reflashed) or the cpu has an internal issue.
Almost any app use will cause the cpu to jump to max frequency, so that doesn't mean anything.
All silicon is different, if yours is borderline specs then it may get warmer than another -provided the battery remains below 50 °C then no problem.
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Wat app did u use to see tat?
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My cpu ticks over at 300Mz when idling with screen on, see the attached. This is with all power saving options on. If yours is jammed at 1.4Ghz then either the kernel is corrupt (but you've reflashed) or the cpu has an internal issue.
Almost any app use will cause the cpu to jump to max frequency, so that doesn't mean anything.
All silicon is different, if yours is borderline specs then it may get warmer than another -provided the battery remains below 50 °C then no problem.
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I think my battery swims in 40-46 celcius after a while of device just being open. 1.4ghz is normal ok, but why the excessive heat then. And two years ago I hoped i needn't to get another phone in at least three years since all I do these days at maximum is twitter and youtube on my phone. No games or anything...
And - at least to me noticing it this is recent. And I would since its hot enough that i feel it in my thigh after putting it in my pocket.
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I think my battery swims in 40-46 celcius after a while of device just being open. 1.4ghz is normal ok, but why the excessive heat then. And two years ago I hoped i needn't to get another phone in at least three years since all I do these days at maximum is twitter and youtube on my phone. No games or anything...
And - at least to me noticing it this is recent. And I would since its hot enough that i feel it in my thigh after putting it in my pocket.
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Being at 1.4ghz all the time is the reason why ur phone heats up. So it is not okay. I think u btr send it for repair since it is not software based.
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I have had the same issue with my S3 (SGH-T999). What I found was that the overheating occurred with a certain battery in use. Yes, I carry 4 batteries around with me. The oldest battery seemed to be giving me the problem with frequent overheating and a lot of reboot/shut down issues.
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WellTrainedVC said:
I have had the same issue with my S3 (SGH-T999). What I found was that the overheating occurred with a certain battery in use. Yes, I carry 4 batteries around with me. The oldest battery seemed to be giving me the problem with frequent overheating and a lot of reboot/shut down issues.
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I have two different batteries, this happens on both, extended and the normal one that came with the phone, so I eliminated that idea too.
Well bummer. Sorry I couldn't help you better. Do you use a full body screen protector with a case? You may also want to clean out the inside of the phone, under the casing. After almost two years the amount of dust and lint can really build up.
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Well bummer. Sorry I couldn't help you better. Do you use a full body screen protector with a case? You may also want to clean out the inside of the phone, under the casing. After almost two years the amount of dust and lint can really build up.
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Possible, I have not SCREWED it open ot anything myself, do not want to lose the warranty that still should be there.
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Possible, I have not SCREWED it open ot anything myself, do not want to lose the warranty that still should be there.
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If your cpu is constantly running at 1.4ghz then that should be the first thing to fix. You can try to figure out what is causing the massive cpu load by installing a cpu monitoring app from the playstore.
If this is a hardware related issue, then you need to get it fixed. In either case, constantly high temperature can affect your cpu permanently.
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If your rom is screwed. You'd rather perform a mega-wipe and flash stock nb6 firmware through desktop odin and see. I would give some time for it to settle and compare the temps.
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STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any damages caused to your phone. Use this mod at your own risk there is no warranty or guarantee.
I created these mods to help with the over heating issue on the Lgv20 and the Thermal throttling. I did not make any changes to the charging speed. When the screen is off the phone will fast charge. With screen on phone charges at 900 to 300 depending how hot your phone is.
All thermal mods updated on 5-12-22
You can just flash on top of older versions
Removed 50c it's just to low the phone would not run good.
Version notes
Lite v6.0 CPU & GPU max temps 60c
If the shell of the phone get's 42c then thermal throttle. Bring all core's down to 1036800 tell it reaches 40c. That's 104F. So if the phone wants to do an update when charging, the phone should not get over hot. Also thermal throttle if CPU or GPU get's over 62c bring down to 60c. The thermal mod is now well optimized, for extended battery life & performance. This may be the final version, it's good.
Balanced v7.0 CPU & GPU max temps 70c
If the shell of the phone get's 47c then thermal throttle. Bring all core's down to 1228800 tell it reaches 45c. That's 113F. So if the phone wants to do an update when charging, the phone should not get over hot. Also thermal throttle if CPU or GPU get's over 72c bring down to 70c. The thermal mod is now well optimized, for extended battery life & performance. This may be the final version, it's good.
Extreme v8.0 CPU & GPU max temps 80c
If the shell of the phone get's 52c then thermal throttle. Bring all core's down to 1401600 tell it reaches 50c. That's 122F. With this version the phone may get hotter than with lite and balanced. But you should have increased performance. Also thermal throttle if CPU or GPU get's over 82c bring down to 80c. The thermal mod is now well optimized, for extended battery life & performance. This may be the final version, it's good.
Requirements:
Lgv20
Root Access / twrp
Stock Oreo or Nougat
How to install.
Just flash in twrp.
This thermal mod only replaces two files.
/system/etc/thermal-engine-8996.conf
/system/etc/thermal-engine-default.conf
If you want to back them up first you can or just use the uninstaller. The thermal-engine-default.conf was not changed, it's still the default. That is just in case your phone get's over 130c, the phone will try it's best to cool it's self off, if it cant the phone will shutdown.
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are these the modified config files that were already available or have you created 'new one's. Handy to have them in a flashable zip.
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are these the modified config files that were already available or have you created 'new one's. Handy to have them in a flashable zip.
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They are 100% original. Thank you I thought it would be handy to have a flashable file. I did quite a bit of research online and just combined every thing I learned.
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They are 100% original. Thank you I thought it would be handy to have a flashable file. I did quite a bit of research online and just combined every thing I learned.
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I haven't changed mine myself. My device got very hot whilst charging when I tested a long time ago so I went back to stock. I'm been meaning to figure it out but never go around to it.
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I haven't changed mine myself. My device got very hot whilst charging when I tested a long time ago so I went back to stock. I'm been meaning to figure it out but never go around to it.
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Yeah if you mess with the charging speed the phone will get hot. On my mods I didn't touch the charging speeds. They are still stock, I only changed the speed at witch the cpu and gpu will throttle down if phone gets above 80c.
ah okay interesting.
I seem to have a problem on my pie rom that when the battery is below 50% it throttles down. Not sure how to fix that one.
ezzony said:
ah okay interesting.
I seem to have a problem on my pie rom that when the battery is below 50% it throttles down. Not sure how to fix that one.
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Yeah that sounds like a battery issue to me. Getting a new battery may help. It's because the battery cant push out the amount of amps that the phone needs to run at full speed. Same thing happens to my phone around 50% or so. But I am still running an old stock 2016 battery. I just don't trust the generic battery's in my phone. I think LG still sells new battery's for the lgv20 for around $39.99 on there web site.
As the battery voltage falls the current draw increases
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Yeah that sounds like a battery issue to me. Getting a new battery may help. It's because the battery cant push out the amount of amps that the phone needs to run at full speed. Same thing happens to my phone around 50% or so. But I am still running an old stock 2016 battery. I just don't trust the generic battery's in my phone. I think LG still sells new battery's for the lgv20 for around $39.99 on there web site.
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Exactly. Nothing like a fresh battery to perk up a device.
As the battery voltage falls the current draw increases to the stepup voltage converter to provide the needed V+ for the device. The device wattage (V×A=W)requirement remains constant.
It's interesting that it throttles back like that.
It probably is designed to do that at a certain battery voltage.
Battery calibration might help the indicated %... but the end run time/throttle back time will likely remain the same.
Oh that fine so. I actually have loads of batteries, some new, some old LG ones. I must throw the bad ones out lol.
I just updated Thermal Throttling Fix LGv20 v5.0 It works better than the previous versions.
I just uploaded v5.1 and v5.2 Thermal Engine mod for Lgv20 Stock Oreo/Nougat
H990DS 8.0+ezV2020+v5.4 Thermal Mod+4.2 Speed Mod + 19 degree in the room
Result is very good.
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can i install these on lineageos 18? thx
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can i install these on lineageos 18? thx
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no sorry only stock Lgv20 Android. Lineageos does not have all the required files to thermal throttle the cpu.
Just updated all the thermal mods 5-5-22
Updated the thermal mods 5-12-22
I am still working on the thermal mods, trying to dial in the perfect settings. Check back for updates.
New versions ready for download, I think I finally got it this time. There is a Lite, Balanced & Extreme version. Enjoy.
I just ran your latest debloat script (8.1), can I load this over top?