I've tried Telenav - not impressed, at least not enough to pay $10 a month.
Can anyone recommend any 3rd party GPS apps that are known to work with the Radar? I've heard Navigon doesn't work because of the lack of compass, but I don't have first hand experience so that statement could be wrong.
Any feedback is appreciated!
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Hi there...
Try "Turn by Turn" Navigation.
It's free/trial, as long as you don't ask for directions...
Y.
Navigon works great and well worth the price. Plus the new version lets you download only the maps you need, taking up only about ~300mb of space.
Because of gps tracking, a compass isn't really needed. The map rotates with each turn I make.
Is gmaps pro worth buying? I came from an hd2 with android to this phone and not being able to find bus directions is a pain
Does anyone know of a navigon trial version. Had copilot7 on my touch hd, stupidly assumed I could install on radar...sadly mango is not best supported os, and most devs now concentrating on iPhone and android....grrrr. Still an iPhone hater and love windows, so need a new choice. Also heard that navigon doesn't work on radar coz of lack of compass, but is shown as supported on navigon website...just want to check it out b4 I commit to buy, as UK version is staggering £72 :-/
Anyone try Garmin?
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Does anyone know of a navigon trial version. Had copilot7 on my touch hd, stupidly assumed I could install on radar...sadly mango is not best supported os, and most devs now concentrating on iPhone and android....grrrr. Still an iPhone hater and love windows, so need a new choice. Also heard that navigon doesn't work on radar coz of lack of compass, but is shown as supported on navigon website...just want to check it out b4 I commit to buy, as UK version is staggering £72 :-/
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Hmm, weird. I thought I replied to this thread already but I guess not, hah.
I can confirm that Navigon works wonderfully on the Radar, even without the digital compass. It tracks awesomely and quickly and when I turn in the car, it's able to detect via gps that I'm turning as well, and the navigation is seamless.
I also believe there is a Navigon trial, but it's only a simulation to play with routes and stuff and you can't actually use it to navigate.
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Have tried and own Garmin.. in some ways wish I would have gone with Navigon, but Garmin has been doing some updates..... aside from letting me download maps while on my wifi... The app is fantastic. The new update is slick. It looks to me like Garmin is developing on WP7 and that is a huge bonus... not just a token effort then poof they are gone like Intuit.
HTC Locations is now a full GPS app
Ok guys, here's some fresh news: HTC Locations was upgraded today to a full GPS navigation software. It includes downloadable maps of all countries, offline routing, turn by turn voice navigation in any language, speed cameras, points of interest, etc. So go ahead, upgrade and give it a try!
Having used all available GPS software (navigon, nokia drive, turn by turn, garmin etc) i must say i'm impressed with this one. This is the only GPS navigation software so far that planned some known routes exactly as i would plan them. I checked it out with Data turned off and it seems to plan routes and navigate 100% offline.
The only thing that seems to be missing, at least in my language, is Text To Speech. Also, voice navigation and speed cameras are subscription-based. They will be free for the first month and then you will be required to purchase them.
Yes! It works great, but we got one bad thing - one month trial....
How do you install Navigon to HTC Radar...does it have to be sideloaded to dev unlocked phone....cos i have been reading all about that, and have to say....woah...I think having just shelled out 500 for the phone, i would have expected to at least be able to do more than sync with Zune, and be forced to use live services. Perhaps I should have researched the platform more before buying. Just assumed it would be as good as all the other winmo devices that i have had
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How do you install Navigon to HTC Radar...does it have to be sideloaded to dev unlocked phone
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You buy it from the marketplace. Anything else is stealing.
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all the other winmo devices that i have had
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Your Radar is not a "winmo device" and experiences you had with Windows Mobile should not be expected to inform Windows Phone ones.
Stealing
You miss my point.
I downloaded the navigon trial, 30 day, It says it has to be placed on memory card etc.
Downside....no memory card on Radar so, my question stands, how do you install it on HTC Radar?
I have no problem paying for decent sat nav for Radar....I had Co-Pilot on my HTC Touch Hd, and that was good. From what I have seen of Navigon, looks good also, but want to try before I spen £72 on it.
GPSOn turn by turn is fine, nice features with turn reminders flashing etc, but a 24 hour trial is hardly enough to determine whether it is worth £30.
My job requires daily driving all over the UK, and I just want to be able to put in postcode or address and forget it.
for $4 turn by is the best it also has satalite veiw
Have tried Navigon, Turn by Turn and HTC Locations.
The best one imo is HTC Locations IIRC ~29$ for life
+1 for htc locations
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Does anyone have any suggestions from first hand experience? I have a GlobalSat BT-359 from my soon to be departed Nokia e61.
I've tried a few shareware apps for 'off road' stuff, hilwalking, etc. Useful for limited applications.
For road navigation.. Tomtom all the way for me Now using Navigator 6 with the Tomtom BT GPS. Its not the cheapest, but there are good deals out there and it works well.
I currently use tomtom6 but have used destinator in the past and its my prefered. This is in australia and the tomtom maps are not as detailed but they are more customizable with different voices and point of intererst etc. i believe the maps are done from local providers so tomtom for the states might be better.
Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
I'm going to try Wayfinder on a 5 day free trial for a project I have. I'll post results next week.
iNav iGuidance in my opinion
I've tried TomTom, iGuidance and iGo and my favorite by far is iGo.
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
I use TomTom for road navigatoin and Anquet for off road (walking, and cycling)
Anquet is pricy! but it has OS mapping available for the entire UK, (and i believe its this OS map data thats has enforced the high price. most of the the UK is at 1/25k Which is idea for walking, (you can see trees marked and field boundrys.
The mapping app for the PPC in the early version was poor but the newer stuff is pretty good.
That said i have recently installed Gmaps. Google Maps free PPC app, if your in a 3G area its really quite fast to load, and being able to see satalite images (if the res is good enough where you are) is pretty cool. Driving in my car with it drawing Satalite photos clear enough to see cars on makes you feel like Jack Bower!
Gmaps will do point to point navigation too, and in the US it can pick up traffic infomation.
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
5: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
6: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
7: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
Finally, I worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product.
The bottom line is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it finally came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
5: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
6: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
7: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
Finally, I previously worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a work related project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map which I like. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product. Would I go back to Rt66? Maybe but I need to check out the other map on0board applications first.
The bottom line for Wayfinder is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
RemE said:
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
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I am running iGo on WM6 and it's flawless.
You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I have had start-up freezes with Tomtom, but seems fine at the moment. I am using Black 3.0 ROM.
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Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I had the same problem with TomTom 5 and Windows Mobile 5. When I upgraded the phone to Windows Mobile 6 TomTom ran super fast.
FYI TomTom 6 is even faster!~~
I tried TomTom6 for my trip down to New york, and Atlantic City all I can say its the best GPS software I've used period
it was paired it with i.Trek M5 GPS receiver
I use tomtom 6.03 on LVSW's WM6 ROM. in a word, WOW! awesome program, fast, and optimised for PDA use while driving.
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You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
When it's about car navigation, I can recommend Tom Tom 6. I've tried Destinator, which I found more flexible, but the actual location dragged about 200meters so after I had driven past my exit did the arrow come to the spot.
Missed so many turns I ditched that POS.
I have used Route 66 on P910i, which is better than Destinator but doesn't give as much coverage of Finland as Tom tom 6.
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
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Look at here
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Buy+NavNGo&meta=
and the review of the iGO is here :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/iGo2006.php
and also take a look at theirs forum for usable tips how to configure voice commands for your satisfaction :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modul...opic&t=41654&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Igo is def the best however it doesn't seem to work with wm6, goes really slow and eats up memory till you need to reset. Unfortunately I can't test it on my hermes as they don't do a microsd version.
I spoke to the tech guys there, who said that it worked, however I am not convinced as it still isn't on their list of compatible OS's.
So will adopt the wait and see.
Plus its locked to the card so sucks if you have more than one device, like I do.
Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
I quick reply to one part of your question is that I tried running igo 2006 on my athena with 96dpi and it didnt run right. The buttons where all messed up and I couldn't even get through the first menu. TomTom works great with 96dpi though. Miomap might be a little different than iGo. I know they aren't exactly the same just similar. I'm not sure about reliability in the UK though since I am in the US. Miomaps has always work the best for me. The UI and maps load quicker with iGo. TomTom has the traffic support which iGo does not. TomTom also has a pretty nice software package that you install on your computer called TomTom home. This will update your software whenever there is an update and you can get extras through there (ie. POI, Speed Cameras).
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Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
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Igo only works in 192dpi. TomTom routing is nowhere near as good but it does traffic (Igo doesn't except via TMC). Copilot 7 isn't out yet AFAIK.
Mount - use the Brodit. BT - use Parrot if necessary.
CoPilot 7 - without a doubt!
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CoPilot 7 - without a doubt!
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Where is that available?
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Where is that available?
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Sorry, still in Beta.
TwoPlus1 said:
Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
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I've used CoPilot 6 and TomTom. Like TomTom better as it's more accurate, works without issues in RealVGA mode, I run 96dpi. Last time I used CoPilot was on my Universal with external GPS, of course. I haven't really tried any other software. TomTom has the traffic updates via subscription and does a good job. Hasn't got me lost yet. CoPilot got me lost a few times so I dropped it.
I've used copilot 5 for about two years, iGO my way 2006 for about two months and Tom Tom for about a month. Of these, iGo is clearly the best IMHO. It's route calculation is the least illogical. It is the prettiest and most user friendly, fastest in getting a GPS fix, and is the only one that warns (audio warning) me when I exceed legal speed limit. Tom Tom only display the speeding visually, but who could keep an eye on the device to know that while driving?
The real downside is that iGO can't run in 96 or 128 dpi mode whereas TT can. Of these, I personally think TT's route calculatin is the least sensible. I often have two of them running side by side (on two devices of course) to see the difference.
Now, i've decided to stick with iGO despite the display problem. I'm love 128 dpi, but whenever I use iGO, I just switch back to 192. Not a real problem if you do it while walking to your car. By the time I start the engine, it is reset back to 192 and gps ready to go.
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I've used CoPilot 6 and TomTom. Like TomTom better as it's more accurate, works without issues in RealVGA mode, I run 96dpi. Last time I used CoPilot was on my Universal with external GPS, of course. I haven't really tried any other software. TomTom has the traffic updates via subscription and does a good job. Hasn't got me lost yet. CoPilot got me lost a few times so I dropped it.
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Suprising, but you are in the US. TomTom in the UK it is generally agreed that the Navteq maps used by CoPilot are far beter than the maps used by TomTom.
CoPilot 7 is a vast improvement over CP6 and works in all resolutions, finds GPS receievers (incl the Athena's internal one) with no problem and just works. Reading any forums and you will see people having problems with getting TomTom working - although a fair proportion of these are pirate copies of TomTom - or people who have just changed device - something that's easy with CP but not with TT!
CP7 will be well worth the wait and hopefully not top long now.
I have not seen iGo - but it does have it's fans, could be worth considering.
For those who haven't seen it yet...http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
This is a link to a site selling CoPilot 7 due for release 1st week in October, I think I'll struggle on untill then. I have no local knowlege of the places I'm visiting for work so SatNav is a must, free trafic rerouting is also a definate plus as I already have a data plan. I just hope it's faster than people say 6 was...
On the question of car mount's I've seen the brodit, but do they do a windscreen mount as opposed to a vent mount? I prefere this position (near HUD) as opposed to the device calling your attention down into the car.
Thanks for all your comments.
Martyn
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Suprising, but you are in the US. TomTom in the UK it is generally agreed that the Navteq maps used by CoPilot are far beter than the maps used by TomTom.
CoPilot 7 is a vast improvement over CP6 and works in all resolutions, finds GPS receievers (incl the Athena's internal one) with no problem and just works. Reading any forums and you will see people having problems with getting TomTom working - although a fair proportion of these are pirate copies of TomTom - or people who have just changed device - something that's easy with CP but not with TT!
CP7 will be well worth the wait and hopefully not top long now.
I have not seen iGo - but it does have it's fans, could be worth considering.
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For those who haven't seen it yet...http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
This is a link to a site selling CoPilot 7 due for release 1st week in October, I think I'll struggle on untill then. I have no local knowlege of the places I'm visiting for work so SatNav is a must, free trafic rerouting is also a definate plus as I already have a data plan. I just hope it's faster than people say 6 was...
On the question of car mount's I've seen the brodit, but do they do a windscreen mount as opposed to a vent mount? I prefere this position (near HUD) as opposed to the device calling your attention down into the car.
Thanks for all your comments.
Martyn
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Re Brodit - IMHO they are the best mounts. They mount in different places in different cars - see their website (Brodit.se). I'm not sure I'd mount an Ameo on the windscreen - I would be worried it wasn't secure enough on a suction mount.
I just looked at the screen shots of copilot 7. It is a lot more beautiful than the previous version, although still not as nice as iGO's. My initial impression, based on the website's description is that Copilot 7 still has a long long way to go before it can catch up with iGO. The key areas are as follows:
1) I don't see anything that says Copilot is able to warn user who exceeds the legal speed limit. If the feature is there, they're not doing a good job advertising it. (Or may be they refrain from mentioning it for legal reasons, as it is prohibited to have such a feature in some countries??)
2) When copilot sees says a red light camera, a warning screen pop up that replaces the map. During those few seconds, you might be at a point that you need the map most. In contrast, iGO has a semi transparent speed sign that lay on the map, so your ability to use the map is unhindered. I see that Copilot 7 has not changed this flawed approach.
3) iGO warns the speed camera and red light camera by beep sound rather than spoken word as in copilot. There is a lot of advantage in IGO's approach, because at that moment iGO might be simultaneously be giving turn instruction. In Copilot's approach, the verbal warning on red light camera may interfer with the turn instruction. That was the case with Copilot 5. Not sure if Copilot 7 has improved on this.
4) iGO would also have a different beep if you are exceeding the speed being monitored by the speed camera. This is regardless of whether or not it issues overspeeding (which is in the mercy of whether speed limit data has been kept for that stretch of road). Copilot 5 won't have this strength. What about Copilot 7??.
I can go on into many other details, but would do that only after trying it out first hand.
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I just looked at the screen shots of copilot 7. It is a lot more beautiful than the previous version, although still not as nice as iGO's. My initial impression, based on the website's description is that Copilot 7 still has a long long way to go before it can catch up with iGO. The key areas are as follows:
1) I don't see anything that says Copilot is able to warn user who exceeds the legal speed limit. If the feature is there, they're not doing a good job advertising it. (Or may be they refrain from mentioning it for legal reasons, as it is prohibited to have such a feature in some countries??)
2) When copilot sees says a red light camera, a warning screen pop up that replaces the map. During those few seconds, you might be at a point that you need the map most. In contrast, iGO has a semi transparent speed sign that lay on the map, so your ability to use the map is unhindered. I see that Copilot 7 has not changed this flawed approach.
3) iGO warns the speed camera and red light camera by beep sound rather than spoken word as in copilot. There is a lot of advantage in IGO's approach, because at that moment iGO might be simultaneously be giving turn instruction. In Copilot's approach, the verbal warning on red light camera may interfer with the turn instruction. That was the case with Copilot 5. Not sure if Copilot 7 has improved on this.
4) iGO would also have a different beep if you are exceeding the speed being monitored by the speed camera. This is regardless of whether or not it issues overspeeding (which is in the mercy of whether speed limit data has been kept for that stretch of road). Copilot 5 won't have this strength. What about Copilot 7??.
I can go on into many other details, but would do that only after trying it out first hand.
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Agreed on all fronts. If only Igo would do traffic, it would be close to perfect!
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Agreed on all fronts. If only Igo would do traffic, it would be close to perfect!
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
Hope this helps
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
Hope this helps
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I know about thge TMC functions but (a) they're not widely available (b) you would need an external TMC receiver (the Ameo can't deal with this) and (c) they're not as good as the trafficmaster (and similar) data systems we have here. TomTom's (data) traffic system was quite good. Shame!
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
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could you explain where read about Athena and FM built in?
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could you explain where read about Athena and FM built in?
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I have come across a few reports that say Athena has an inbuilt FM receiver and had always assumed that once the TMC service provider is ready I would start using the traffic management feature of my device. But now that you raised the question, I had became curious myself as to whether these reports were accurate. I wish I would locate those webpages, but I don't seem to be able to locate them now.
So, I went and read the service manual to see if anything is mentioned there. Unfortunately, I have to say that the answer is no. The service manual has made no mentioned of FM receiver at all.
With this, I now have to correct my earlier impression and would now assume that these reports were inaccurate. I'm not sure if the service manual is for 7500 only or for both 7500 and 7501. I'm also come across some debate on whether 7501 has an FM radio receiver. I'm pretty sure having come across some debate pointing both ways. However, since I do not have the 7501 manual, I would not raise my hope there.
It would be so nice, so necessary to have FM built in so that we could use the TMC functions. Oh well....
Maps for IGO / MIO
in case that you were not updated with the maps here are the maps for IGO 2006 and MIO
http://www.filefactory.com/f/9eeb0f75e820535d/
Hi from Italy. I received for Christmas a X7501 from USA, with WM6. After first installation, the GPS software is downloadable from TELENAV web site. From Europe, it seems to be impossible to download the software. Does anybody knows how to install in X7501 a GPS software, downloadable for free ? and what about maps to install ? thanks in advance for answer me
try this
I use this to watch US-restricted videos on NBC et al's Hulu site. It's much simpler than proxies etc.
http://anchorfree.com/downloads/hotspot-shield/
You can try google maps as a test.
I use co-pilot live and love it. No fees except for the one time purchase of the software. I am using version 6 but they just release version 7. You can view their site at http://www.alk.com. It is a great product and very easy to use.
There is a variety of software available not not much in the way of free. Certainly "GPS Testing" you could find but otherwise you're always going to be downloading maps.
It sometimes pays to actually buy the software, but it also helps if you know if you like it first. Personally I would reccomend Navigon Navigator as I've tried it, but YMMV on software.
Another thing you might want to do is peruse the rest of the website to see what other people have asked about in regards to SatNav and the answers given.
Cheers, Elwyn
You can download Garmin Mobile XT for Windows Mobile devices at the links below, directly from Garmin. With the included basemap, you can do basic routing and test the software to see if you like it. Mobile XT is very cool and only costs about $85 on the internet with all of the USA on a chip.
http://www8.garmin.com/support/agree.jsp?id=3389
You also need the basemap:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3645
and other utility files:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3493
z3bum said:
You can download Garmin Mobile XT for Windows Mobile devices at the links below, directly from Garmin. With the included basemap, you can do basic routing and test the software to see if you like it. Mobile XT is very cool and only costs about $85 on the internet with all of the USA on a chip.
http://www8.garmin.com/support/agree.jsp?id=3389
You also need the basemap:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3645
and other utility files:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3493
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Can you copy the maps to the MD or a larger chip? That has been the issue for me...
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Can you copy the maps to the MD or a larger chip? That has been the issue for me...
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Not officially but over at MoDaCo there are instructions.
In the UK there's nothing to beat CP7 though.
Just as a side note people who want to try some free and not so free
GPS apps may like to check here:
http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html
z3bum said:
You can download Garmin Mobile XT for Windows Mobile devices at the links below, directly from Garmin. With the included basemap, you can do basic routing and test the software to see if you like it. Mobile XT is very cool and only costs about $85 on the internet with all of the USA on a chip.
http://www8.garmin.com/support/agree.jsp?id=3389
You also need the basemap:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3645
and other utility files:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3493
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Also, this install seems to be limited to Garmin external GPS only, won't work with internal GPS... Is there a workaround?
more on Garmin Mobile XT
I have sucessfully copied Mobile XT off the included SD card, and made it work with a Nokia N95 internal GPS. Not sure yet if it is going to work with the internal GPS of the X7501, but I will be able to find out in the next couple of days, as mine will be here. More on that later.
As for the Modaco article... the link is below. The article is, shall we say... "Enlightening"
http://www.modaco.com/content/Samsu...ackjack-II-on-Your-Own-Storage-Card-Tutorial/
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Also, this install seems to be limited to Garmin external GPS only, won't work with internal GPS... Is there a workaround?
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noni gps and Igo 2006
iloveqtek said:
Hi from Italy. I received for Christmas a X7501 from USA, with WM6. After first installation, the GPS software is downloadable from TELENAV web site. From Europe, it seems to be impossible to download the software. Does anybody knows how to install in X7501 a GPS software, downloadable for free ? and what about maps to install ? thanks in advance for answer me
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bit late but I thought you might look at noni gps which is a track plotter and has an italian installation and is freeware.
If you want a driving application Igo 2006se can be found in a trial format on the net
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So my X7501 arrived on Friday. I have Garmin Mobile XT running on it... fantastic! It is like an internet-connected NUVI. The buttons on the user interface are finger touchable, and the screen is easy to use. It works with Garmin Mapsource maps like City Navigator and Bluecharts and topographic maps. Proclip makes a powered bracket for the car, which looks nice and seems to work nicely in my Z3 Coupe. Will test futher, but I highly recommend this...
I've got memory-map on mine and love it. Which is good, because I use it at work so much..
Full 1:50000 of the UK OS mapping on there and a few 1:25000 areas I frequent.
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I've got memory-map on mine and love it. Which is good, because I use it at work so much..
Full 1:50000 of the UK OS mapping on there and a few 1:25000 areas I frequent.
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Ahh yes, that's good that isn't it
1:50k, 1:25k, 1:10k (in places), 1:250k motoring maps and 1:1m and not forgetting satellite coverage
Hello everyone,
just got my brand new shiny Streak. And man its something. Basically, everything I ever wanted from and now looking back at all the phones I had and other phones on the market I can`t keep wondering why in gods name would someone buy something else other than a 5" phone. 4-4.3" is good but 5" is just perfect.
So I made this upgrade from an Xperia X1 and never do I want to see WinMo in my life. But right now I have an ... android rush lol. Lots of info, apps, games. Its like an overload to try and understand everything and get use to everything. In a good way.
My first issue was with the car charger. Dell charges a lot as you already know. But I found an universal car charger for 7 pounds, that outputs 5V and 1A and i`m using the data cable to charge the phone in my car. No need for a holder just yet.
The pouch is good, but definately needs a proper case as its getting annoying sometimes to take it out all the time.
Got a few questions, regarding apps and games and such, if anyone here has more experience with android than me...
1. I`m planning to buy this (http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php) . Will it affect the screen brightness in any way ?
2. Currently using GoNews as my newsreader but I`m looking for a good working one that also has to option to search a website for RSS feed. The one i`m using at the moment gives me the option to import from a file or input the whole adress manually.
3. Gaming wise, I dont mind paying for games. And the ones i`d pay for would be a good RPG and an RTS. Currently thinking about buying ZENONIA, but I can`t seem to find any RTS games out there (StarCraft, Age of Empires, Command and Conquer). Not those games, but they are examples of gameplay i`m looking for.
4. Also looking for a game that works on Streak similar to Worms world party. Could have tanks or other things, but should work lol. Tried something Armored Lite or whatevr the name was but the graphics war very buggy and made gaming pretty impossible.
5. Dialer. Can it be changed ?
6. Email client. BEfore getting the phone, i was reading reviews and stuff. People said the email client sucked. At first I thought it was ok but god I was wrong. Can`t do anything besides reading the email. Could anyone recommend a better email client ?
7. How do I make it stop turning the display on and off while on a phonecall ?
8. What benefits would I have if I root it ? Not an android expert and not sure if I should give it a try or not.
9. 3g or Wi-Fi videochat. Are there any apps that do this ?
10. Last but not least hehe Navigation. Basically I think its great and considering I spend A LOT of time in my car and using a TomTom, I was thinking of replacing my satnav with my Streak. BUT, is the navigation software dependent on internet connection and gps ? As far as I saw, if my internet connection drops the navigation looses the map or something. Is there any android navigation app that is GPS only. Giving the 16 GB memory, I don`t mind downloading maps and such.
Thanks
I may not be able to answer all your questions, but i will do my best
1) No, it shouldn't affect the brightness much (maybe slightly). I've never owned an invisible shield, but i've heard very good things about them. The 'feel' of the screen will change, however.
2) Not sure, sorry
3) There are not that many good android games out there at the moment (not that look good on the streak at least). I'm not a big gamer though, so i can't really answer this question well
4) as above
5) Of course! there are numerous 3rd party diallers out there. Or, you can pull the dialler application from your phone and change the images if you want (requires root)
6) There's a nice e-mail client in the market called K9. It works perfectly.
7) The display only turns itself off when the sensor is covered (when you hold the phone to your ear), i believe that otherwise the screen stays active. If it does not, you can always change the 'screen time-out' in settings to 'Never Timeout'.
8) Rooting allows you to modify the system files. This means, like mentioned above, you can pull applications from your phone and modify the images. This means you can create and apply themes. You can also overclock your phones processor (not been done yet on this phone i don't think). There are countless other things you can do. Here's a good list- http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root
9) There aren't many video call apps, but if you search 'Movicha' in the market place there is an app called 'Live Mobile Video Chat' which apparently does the job. (no idea if it works on the streak though)
10) Good question, never really thought about this before. I've found a good (and more importantly, free!) app though, called 'TrekBuddy'. You download the maps prior to your journey and then it allows offline navigation. Not sure how well it works, but it's the best i can do!
Hope this helps!
Thanks a lot. Still reading tons of android forums and websites.
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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Yes that is true and if you know where to look there is a not so legal one out there
I have the Invisible Shield and it works like a charm. No brightness effects at all. The only thing is that the shield for the back left and right is not cut very well, but the front ones and battery cover is great.
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If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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agreed. copilot is very good, it almost pains me to say that considering how god awful it preformed on my G1 but on the streak its fantastic. little extra power goes along way
So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS. And even if my tablet is tethered to my phone with the GPS off, it still gets it's location just fine. If I'm just an ignorant fool please feel free to let me know, just wondering what the benefit of it is.
Dan
I like maps and have very nice and detailed maps from memory map. It's very nice on a phone, but it would be so mutch better from a tablet.
Besides that, I can't stand it if something doesn't work (even if I never gone use it).
ddelong22 said:
So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS. And even if my tablet is tethered to my phone with the GPS off, it still gets it's location just fine. If I'm just an ignorant fool please feel free to let me know, just wondering what the benefit of it is.
Dan
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they make seat mounts where you could technically use it as a turn by turn navigation. someone mentioned he wanted to mount one in his RV. I personally wouldn't mind having mine be functional so when I am riding with my friends to a vacation spot or something I can backseat turn by turn us to a liquor store or something....... all in all shouldn't be a huge deal for most but the fact that Asus was dumb enough to put a aluminum plate to block signal is kind of alarming.
ddelong22 said:
So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS. And even if my tablet is tethered to my phone with the GPS off, it still gets it's location just fine. If I'm just an ignorant fool please feel free to let me know, just wondering what the benefit of it is.
Dan
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[A] I believe the point of GPS on this device (or any modern tablet / phone) is the utter ubiquity of GPS functions in apps, search, etc.... that coupled with gps hardware being so small, cheap, and power-conscious - it makes little sense to leave it out (even wih major usability issues)
I rarely use gps on my phone, let alone a tablet. Location based services are overrated
Maybe a gps to track a jog or hike? I'd love to see a jogger carrying a tablet
I'd also say that the people that post on these forums are generally not like the average user
It allows the FBI to find you when you view questionable material on the web.
Also, it allows Google to know where you are while collecting all of your habits, personal info and tastes.
Not everyone has a smart phone...not everyone can afford multiple gadget...
They buy the best gadget that meets their needs, the tp was originally advertised as the only device you need....
before ASUS dropped it from its specs, gps was part of the tp, so they expected the product to work...
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Well whats important with GPS?? Well, whether you use it or not. If the box says it has GPS, it better have a working GPS. If you buy a car and it says it has a rearview camera and you find out that rearview camera was not working. Would you just says its ok thats what turning your head and looking at the mirrors are for. You paid for the feature, you best bet it works correctly if you paid for it. But if you bought it after the fact that they struck the GPS out of the box specs, then you shouldnt complain about the GPS or the use of it on your tablet.
People are upset because the box says GPS, and you paid for GPS but your not getting GPS.
Not getting what you paid for = upsetting.
Its like buying a turbo charged MR2 then finding out that the turbo isn't actually hooked up because toyota says the MR2 isn't meant to be a high performance race car...
And to add to that note..
And you find out the guy in your neighborhood bought the same MR2 at the same dealer and his turbo actually works. Its like WTF??? The guy is ranting I love my MR2 and not all MR2's are the same. And another guy with a faulty MR2 is also saying "its ok I dont use the turbo that much anyways" ... hehehehe.. Sorry just had to add.
Here's another idiot question, is GPS a subscription service?
No. As long as the device you have has a GPS receiver all it needs is a navigation software. The prime has a built in GPS receiver and has a navigation app so in theory it should lock on to satellites without the help of a wifi connection. But due to whatever Asus did to the prime, whether the aluminum case or firmware. The prime is a hit, or somewhere in the middle, to a complete miss in getting a lock on a satellite. Thus making the prime's GPS way below other devices with a GPS receiver and made Asus remove it from their specs.
ddelong22 said:
So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS.
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Think a little, then you will know:
1. Not everyone has GPS in their phone. Buying phone with GPS = additional cost.
2. Dedicated GPS devices have often outdated maps because they lack internet connection and buing one = additional cost.
3. Tablet has enormous screen, great for using navigation while being a passenger (you hold the tablet in your hands, look at maps or use navigation) - the screen is much bigger and better than most phones (I for one have very basic phone because I have tablet for more advanced things).
4. Tablet has a great battery life - it's perfect for out-of-car navigation (trips on foot, on a bike) and for tracking GPS for your photo camera on any type of trips.
5. GPS is usefull not only for navigation. Simple thing like having Google Maps locate you is very useful, but also webpages and many fun application use it. Just search the market for GPS, you will find a lot of useful applications of your tablet with GPS.
6. For instanced where your tablet gets stolen GPS can help you locate it.
I think I missed some things, because I'm writing this list second time, from what I remember...