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I am just taking a shot in the dark here but but couldn't it be possible to emulate the PS Vita on the prime since they both use the Quad-Core ARM Cortex A9. I don't remember how the gpu's stack up against each other but the specs are pretty close. Only thing would be that it is an emulation and that even though they share similar components it may still not be possible.
I highly doubt the vita would be possible as the devise emulating must have 4 times the processing power, but while we're on that note I would love to see a psp emulator or maybe even a GameCube emulator or a dream cast emulator. Anybody thinks this would be possible? These 3 systems are about a decade old now and should thearedicaly be possible. I know I would pay 20 bucks if my games were playable on my prime!
Could be possible because of the fact that the processors are similar it would be sweet if we could just dual boot with the PS Vita OS
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could be possible or porting the games over to us to make it easier. One thing though this NeoDeoid(NeoGeo Emulator) that I have one my prime is sick! I've been playing Metal Slug3, Last Blade2, Double Dragon Fighting Game, EightMan, and Fatal Fury1. They all look n play great on the Prime. Only thing is its a hit or miss finding the NeoGeo Roms that work. I've ran thru a bunch and found those ones I've listed to work so far. FPse(PlayStation) emulator works good also. The roms be huge though..lol. I have my X-Men Vs. Street Fighter, Marvel vs. Capcom, and Einhander on it. Its so crazy playing these fighting games on the Prime now.
A dreamcast and Gamecube one could easily be done if someone made am emulator for it. I'd want a 3DO or Sega Saturn Emulator Also. Good old SnesDroid and GeneDroid(Genesis and Sega Master System)plays whatever you through at it basically. its when you get to emulators requiring a BIOS that things get tricky and not every game wants to work. Or even better an Xbox emulator is possible also. Prime has more than enough muscle for it.
I remember reading something about their being some sort of sony SDK that allowed you to offer your games for the vita and Tegra 3 devices idk where but this would be exactly what we need!
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I remember reading something about their being some sort of sony SDK that allowed you to offer your games for the vita and Tegra 3 devices idk where but this would be exactly what we need!
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I was trying to post that link but sinds iam a new member here i was not permitted , so in google do a search for sony SDK tegra 3 and then click the first link.
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I was trying to post that link but sinds iam a new member here i was not permitted , so in google do a search for sony SDK tegra 3 and then click the first link.
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here you go. sounds great! Article says Tegra3 should easily be able to push n play PS vita games. Also that future PlayStation certified devices will include Tegra3 chipset. Sony and Nvdia have a good partnership going. Plus we can expect PlayStation classics and vita games to roll out very soon for Prime.
http://androidandme.com/2011/09/news/playstation-suite-sdk-should-bring-ps-vita-games-to-android/
yeah i was just emulating a ps1 game and without the filtering off it was able to almost get 100 FPS which is really good! we can almost push some PS3 games if we can push VITA games cuz the graphics are so close!
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There have been a few experiments with DS emulators in the past - but the verdict usually ended up with terrible framerates.
Now that we have a quadcore device that has a sizeable increase in performance over other devices - the question of true performance stands...
"...but can it play pokemon?"
This would be one of the easiest things to do. But its a matter of if anyone wants it. I had DS emulator for Ipad. It was OK. There are no great games really only it. Pokemon is for little kids..lol. by the way though, I think Digimon characters would destroy Pokemon ones..lmfao its really a matter of if someone wants to use their time tl make one. With all the other great emulators out there, no real demand for DS emulator. You the first I ever heard ask for one.
What I want to see is a Turbo Gratix 16 or PC engine emulator or a 3DO one.
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This would be one of the easiest things to do. But its a matter of if anyone wants it. I had DS emulator for Ipad. It was OK. There are no great games really only it. Pokemon is for little kids..lol. by the way though, I think Digimon characters would destroy Pokemon ones..lmfao its really a matter of if someone wants to use their time tl make one. With all the other great emulators out there, no real demand for DS emulator. You the first I ever heard ask for one.
What I want to see is a Turbo Gratix 16 or PC engine emulator or a 3DO one.
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Disagree, there's literally tons of great games on DS, it's been the best hand-held gaming platform I had so far, there's a huge variety of games, not only pokemon
Take a look at Advance Wars 1 and 2, The World Ends With You (this game is a Masterpiece), Dragon Quest IX, Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Scribblenauts, All the Castlevania-RPGs etc ... I'll stop here, but there's a lot more! All of these are no Casual games too!
Anyway concerning the emulator, I think Nintendo sold so many DS that people just play on DS instead of emulators for tablets, but it's just my opinion
I find it funny to hear someone say Pokemon is for kids, and then reference Digimon.
There are tons of great games on the DS system, especially JRPGs.
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Itaintrite said:
I find it funny to hear someone say Pokemon is for kids, and then reference Digimon.
There are tons of great games on the DS system, especially JRPGs.
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Lmfao. You got me. Both are. But if one were to be better than another in battle I'd go with the latter.
To op; those are some good games you mentioned. Advanced wars n dragon quest. Been so long since playing a DS. Or at least the original one. I moved on from Nintendo, as IMO, more kiddie oriented games. I had moved on to PSP. I even had an Atari Lynx back in the day and a TurboExpress still have my Sega master system from over 20yrs. Ago.
D.S was a major advancement in evolution of mobile gaming compared to gameboy. I still think gameboy holds all time best selling portable device.
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Lmfao. You got me. Both are. But if one were to be better than another in battle I'd go with the latter.
To op; those are some good games you mentioned. Advanced wars n dragon quest. Been so long since playing a DS. Or at least the original one. I moved on from Nintendo, as IMO, more kiddie oriented games. I had moved on to PSP. I even had an Atari Lynx back in the day and a TurboExpress still have my Sega master system from over 20yrs. Ago.
D.S was a major advancement in evolution of mobile gaming compared to gameboy. I still think gameboy holds all time best selling portable device.
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I have a PSP too, and there's some great games on it too ... just not as much as on DS IMO ...
You're right about Nintendo being more casual and kid oriented, the exception being the Nintendo DS, there's so much RPGs on this machine and original concepts ... sure there's tons of kid games, but there's just as much "real games" trust me
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I have a PSP too, and there's some great games on it too ... just not as much as on DS IMO ...
You're right about Nintendo being more casual and kid oriented, the exception being the Nintendo DS, there's so much RPGs on this machine and original concepts ... sure there's tons of kid games, but there's just as much "real games" trust me
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I believe it. I love RPG. Been playing since those Dragon warrior n Ultimate Quest of the Avatar on NES. Looking forward to trying out DS emulator once one is made for Prime.
I really want a Dreamcast and Saturn Emulator. Loved playing power stones n Phantasy Star. Those had alot of great RPG also. PC engine/Turbo gratis 16 had some great RPG also.
The problem right now is no so much the lack of hardware that could handle it, it's been the compatability of the emulator with the games. Some games will just never work properly on an emulator no matter what the processing power.
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Pokemon is for little kids..lol.
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I'm pretty sure it's only little kids who say Pokemon is only for little kids. All of my friends who are 20+ love Pokemon as it is a great game and is excellently made. All of Nintendo's games are made with the utmost quality and are jam packed full of fun.
That said, I would love to see a DS emulator for android. I've been hoping for one recently as I want to play Pokemon Black or White but I don't want to have to carry my DS around with me. Having only one thing to carry would be awesome.
If we were able to run a full fledged DS emulator on our Prime that would blow all the games iOS + Android combined.
i've had every model of the DS minus the latest 3-Disaster but i honestly wouldn't do much with a DS emulator. i'd probably have more fun with a GBA emulator.
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i've had every model of the DS minus the latest 3-Disaster but i honestly wouldn't do much with a DS emulator. i'd probably have more fun with a GBA emulator.
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Lol, it was a disaster for Nintendo maybe, but I was more than happy to trade in my old DSlite and get a brand new hand-held with tons of added features for $100 That being said, I use it the same amount which is not at all and I don't think I could put an emulator through any more use.
I do have GBC/GBA/NES/SNES/N64 emulators on my phone/Prime and love being able to break out the classics, but the newer Nintendo and its 1st party developers get the less they jive with me as a consumer and fan. A DS/3DS emulator would be for bragging rights more than anything.
What I do want to see is PS2 emulation though! I would kill for that.
There's an issue making emulators for current hardware though, and that's the fact that most dev's don't like entering legal battles with giant corporations. Emulating game ROMs for current hardware isn't looked at any different than pirated games on the original hardware I don't think.
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All of my friends who are 20+ love Pokemon as it is a great game and is excellently made. I want to play Pokemon Black or White
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Black and White FTMFW! #2 of each is supposed to hit japan this summer... STOKED.
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What I do want to see is PS2 emulation though! I would kill for that
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i HAVE killed for this. sadly, it was the guy who was making it and now development has stopped... lol seriously though, i want this so bad, it hurts sometimes.
Not going to happen, however you could check Paul's forums.
He claims that he will work on a NDS emulator next year.
And another 6 months for a 10 fps running stable release.
http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ac72dbe340394abe26ce2bd3919c6555&topic=217.msg3253#new
would love to see a good nds emulator for my prime
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All I really want to do is play Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 again, no matter what platform. I can't believe they haven't released it for PS3 like they did with the original God of War. Maybe OnLive will come through?
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Is there any development going on to see if the prime. An handle it
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Hey,
I recently saw somewhere (on XDA) post that PS Vita has similiar hardware as smartphones that are coming pretty much now (SGS III, powerd by Tegra3 etc.). So is there a possibility for making such emulator? I know that it won't provide similiar gameplay as with hardware buttons on PSV but some games propably would still be playable without them (or with less) like racing games etc.)
I'm just asking for technical side of this task and if there is someone who plans to try and make one?
impossible.
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Probably in 30 years or so, if you want my honest guess.
And not on a smartphone but on a home pc.
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Hey,
I recently saw somewhere (on XDA) post that PS Vita has similiar hardware as smartphones that are coming pretty much now (SGS III, powerd by Tegra3 etc.). So is there a possibility for making such emulator? I know that it won't provide similiar gameplay as with hardware buttons on PSV but some games propably would still be playable without them (or with less) like racing games etc.)
I'm just asking for technical side of this task and if there is someone who plans to try and make one?
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I guess for now still impossible to do. Even PS1 emulator on android is still not perfect enough to play all PS1 game.
So, still long way to make PS Vita emulator on android
Agreed.
I have a hard time getting my Atari ST emulator to run.
Cheers.!
Yep, i was more like porting Vita systems to android or something then emulator but if it's still impossible, thats ok
Would be pretty much impossible considering that the vita is almost as powerful as the ps3 - (already has more ram)
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Would be pretty much impossible considering that the vita is almost as powerful as the ps3 - (already has more ram)
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vita isnt even close to PS3
GS3 has pretty much same vital specs and has more ram than vita
No it isn't you have to understand that processors in a phone are not close to having the same power as a dedicated games device. The vita has a quad core processor and another quad core for the graphics
It has 512mb of ram and another 128mb vram this is much more than the ps3
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sorry i misread though it was a normal SGX543
And a psp emulator?
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And a psp emulator?
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Its the same situation. Because it uses dedicated hardware.
Even the Nintendo DS emulator lags on high end Smart phones
Cheers.
it generally takes YEARS for an emulator to be developed for a console and the first place it will appear is on a PC.
Besides, can you imagine trying to cram all the controls for a Vita onto one touchscreen? Yeesh....
I know this is an old thread but it has also copped a lot of wrong answers.
To all of those people saying that it's impossible and that PS1 emulators have barely been perfected and blah blah blah. I will say this now: The PS1 has a completely different architecture to any Android phone/tablet (apart from MIPS ones, which are very rare.) The Vita on the other hand has a CPU with an ARM architecture, which nearly all Android devices have, the Vita itself needs to be hacked for all of the API's and the OS to be emulated but that will probably be the hardest part (apart from emulating the Graphics chip and other complex hardware.) It should be a similar task to emulating Windows programs on Linux and Mac with Wine, or emulating different x86 OSes on x86 hardware, this is also the reason that I think iOS can be emulated but nobody wants to do it because Apple will find a reason to sue them (a reason why I have never bought an Apple product and hopefully never will.)
The message here is to be an optimist, never say impossible and good things will follow, possibly in the form of a Vita emulator on Android or an iOS emulator.
Yeah Seriously
hackf0rce said:
I know this is an old thread but it has also copped a lot of wrong answers.
To all of those people saying that it's impossible and that PS1 emulators have barely been perfected and blah blah blah. I will say this now: The PS1 has a completely different architecture to any Android phone/tablet (apart from MIPS ones, which are very rare.) The Vita on the other hand has a CPU with an ARM architecture, which nearly all Android devices have, the Vita itself needs to be hacked for all of the API's and the OS to be emulated but that will probably be the hardest part (apart from emulating the Graphics chip and other complex hardware.) It should be a similar task to emulating Windows programs on Linux and Mac with Wine, or emulating different x86 OSes on x86 hardware, this is also the reason that I think iOS can be emulated but nobody wants to do it because Apple will find a reason to sue them (a reason why I have never bought an Apple product and hopefully never will.)
The message here is to be an optimist, never say impossible and good things will follow, possibly in the form of a Vita emulator on Android or an iOS emulator.
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lol 30 years, honestly you can expect an emulator within 10 years of the system release date, if we had dedicated users, I'm sure it get could quicker but it's not "impossible" as PPSSPP, a PSP emulator was recently released on the google store, which runs games PERFECTLY on PC or Mac, it's pretty laggy on my S3-i747m but what games you would expect to run nicely do, of course.
I'm sure newer phones run it smoothly but PSVita games will probably be emulated when the "hype" dies out...
So basically if your asking, can i screw mobile gaming and just buy a phone and bootleg the systems and possibly even play with friends? No.
Can you expect to relive your classics games after you've played them on a legit PSVita in 5-10 years on your Samsung S9 with 16core graphics? Yeah most likely depending on how laws go with the GNU/OSI and how pissed off company's get that they're old ass systems get emulated.
At-least that has been the trend since Atari
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And a psp emulator?
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There's a PSP emulator that's called PPSSPP
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There's a PSP emulator that's called PPSSPP
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If I can run kingdom hearts birth by sleep flawlessly on my Nexus 4 then vita emulation sounds very probable in the next couple of years
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vita isnt even close to PS3
GS3 has pretty much same vital specs and has more ram than vita
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Actually Vita is 3 cores away from PS3 but similar ;D
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Actually Vita is 3 cores away from PS3 but similar ;D
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That dont mean anything a lot more involved than just core count
ps vita emulation is possible but i think it will only run on high end phones...also ps vita is already jailbreakable but not as perfect as psp....
It's like BETA build , Ugly Graphic , LAG
refund now :crying:
It is ugly
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I haven't tried it on my Prime yet, but it looks good on my Samsung Galaxy S3. They probably didn't increase the resolution for the Prime (or any android tablet) once again. We will always play second to Apple when it comes to Gameloft, until game pirating diminishes on Android's end, they are just not willing to put the extra manpower to optimized the game for different android devices.
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I haven't tried it on my Prime yet, but it looks good on my Samsung Galaxy S3. They probably didn't increase the resolution for the Prime (or any android tablet) once again. We will always play second to Apple when it comes to Gameloft, until game pirating diminishes on Android's end, they are just not willing to put the extra manpower to optimized the game for different android devices.
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I wouldnt feel so bad pirating gameloft games if they didnt screw devices over so much. Really, all it takes is a high end version for the big three (tegra, qualcom, and the other one forget the name) for HD devices, another set of reduced graphics for lower end devices, and thats it! Why make a seperate game optimized for each device? I KNOW the tablet version of a game will look good on my prime. Its got the horsepower to play anything you throw at it, even if i have to use chainfire, so why make it so damn difficult for me to play games i know i like? Gameloft is one of the only companies i know of that has problems making games for android, everyone else seems to deal with different devices just fine, making one game version (or sometimes a couple) that work for every device, or sometimes a HD version and a non HD version
No, i have no problem pirating Gameloft games, and if they DO come up with a game that i can buy ONCE and have it work across my multiple high end devices like anything else on the google market then maybe i will change my mind. Until then im not sending them one cent to their online store, especially if its not through google.
Never liked any of gameloft games. Most of their games are just bad clones of other games.
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Works great on my Prime but games is only "upgraded asphalt 6".
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I don't know, but It looks pretty damn good to me and plays great too!
Wtf is wrong with u guys this game is pretty awsome! my only issue is that all game developers aren't including controller compatibility for android which i believe should be a must, as connecting a controller to any android device is the simplest thing ever.
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I have no problem pirating Gameloft games, and if they DO come up with a game that i can buy ONCE and have it work across my multiple high end devices like anything else on the google market then maybe i will change my mind. Until then im not sending them one cent to their online store, especially if its not through google.
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I'm with you on this, and not only gameloft, other companies does that too, shadowgun, fruit ninja, samurai vengeance 2, guerrilla bob, cut the rope and so many other games have a thd version and a regular version, I really hate having to pay twice for the same game just to avoid it seeing awful, I dont really get how dificult could it be to make a game like dead trigger that gets better graphics depending on the hardware
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Wtf is wrong with u guys this game is pretty awsome! my only issue is that all game developers aren't including controller compatibility for android which i believe should be a must, as connecting a controller to any android device is the simplest thing ever.
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Gameloft even not optimized this game for Tegra 3. Like reflection effect , Motion Blur.
YOU CAN LOOK BETWEEN GALAXY S III (OR OTHER PHONES) AND PRIME , GRAPPHIC MUCH DIFFERENT. YOU CAN'T NOTICED THAT!?
I wait for this game about a month and they even not optimized for our Prime, Like other gameloft games.
If you make some games in Android , you must test your apps on every gpu chips. Why other DEVs can do? You release after iOS for month and you even not fix ANY issues. GAMELOFT sucks.
So, yeah, a blessing and a curse. Just spent $7 on wild blood and kinda regret it, lol. Cool game, just not really worth it. Also not optimized for tegra devices. Only uses one core...
At least they are "compatible" now. No having to edit build.prop and break google wallet anymore.
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So, yeah, a blessing and a curse. Just spent $7 on wild blood and kinda regret it, lol. Cool game, just not really worth it. Also not optimized for tegra devices. Only uses one core...
At least they are "compatible" now. No having to edit build.prop and break google wallet anymore.
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Omg finally ! Nice, thanks for the heads up. Finally can play my tablet games on ny phone
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Yet none of the apps I bought a few months ago are compatible..... Oh well
They added more titles today, oddly they don't all show up under their gameloft titles banner, you have to search for gameloft to pull more games
I really hate gameloft customer service and how badly the games run and are poorly optimized. What device are they programming for? The ruskie 1953?
Geez man, makes me so mad they have decent games but the company is so horrible.
I heard they prototype all games on Sun Solaris and then port to android
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I heard they prototype all games on Sun Solaris and then port to android
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I heard they shoot meth in their eyeballs and are holding punky Brewster for ransom. Screw them with the biggest wingdong font available in 1992 sun Solaris 1.0.