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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
This is saying it's all locked down and encrypted. I really hope HTC doesn't go down the Motorola way.
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PixoNova said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
This is saying it's all locked down and encrypted. I really hope HTC doesn't go down the Motorola way.
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Well they confirmed it if it wasn't true they wouldn't have said anything
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Thats ghey...oh well still buying one.
Yeah same here.
That's a shame though.
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Well they confirmed it if it wasn't true they wouldn't have said anything
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I always hope for someone to make a mistake when reporting these things.
This sucks!
so basically we have to use the stock version????
me sad
ok, dont bite my head off but............
what does this mean exactly?
cant root?
cant load apps?
sorry, i'll always be a noob at this stuff.
well, with my Atrix, until we get our bootloader bypass straightened out, we're just running Pseudo-ROMs right now (AOSP SMS, Gingerbread theme, etc.)
I'm not sure how this will affect your root though? I know that even my Inspire was a b**** to root, and all I had to do for my Atrix was SuperOneClick.
kinextions said:
ok, dont bite my head off but............
what does this mean exactly?
cant root?
cant load apps?
sorry, i'll always be a noob at this stuff.
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It'll be like the DX/D2. No custom kernels, no totally getting rid of Sense if you don't want it, etc. With root you can remove bloat from /system/app. But like I said, not sure if this will affect root or not.
kinextions said:
ok, dont bite my head off but............
what does this mean exactly?
cant root?
cant load apps?
sorry, i'll always be a noob at this stuff.
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in theory i guess...
devs have faced hurdles before...i'm sure they will figure out a way
Andy0682 said:
in theory i guess...
devs have faced hurdles before...i'm sure they will figure out a way
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Yes, but look at the all the development for the Motorola devices. The Atrix, it seems like, is the only device that seems like it has a chance to run custom kernels besides the OG Droid.
The Defy has 2nd init running, which allows for ROMs, but not kernels.
Evo 3D devs have a lot of work to do if they wanna crack this, I think.
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Yes, but look at the all the development for the Motorola devices. The Atrix, it seems like, is the only device that seems like it has a chance to run custom kernels besides the OG Droid.
The Defy has 2nd init running, which allows for ROMs, but not kernels.
Evo 3D devs have a lot of work to do if they wanna crack this, I think.
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agreed...this bites the big one for sure
Didnt a engineering BootLoader leak in that RUU yesterday?
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Didnt a engineering BootLoader leak in that RUU yesterday?
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I don't think so? I never heard anything about bootloader leak. I'm sure that would have been said in the article if it had.
kinextions said:
ok, dont bite my head off but............
what does this mean exactly?
cant root?
cant load apps?
sorry, i'll always be a noob at this stuff.
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We should be able to get partial root, similar to what was originally released from unrevoked. No custom kernals or ROMs, but you will be able to run any app that requires root as well as remove anything from the ROM that requires root access i.e. remove from system/app
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/24/evo-3d-features-same-locked-bootloader-as-htc-sensation/
I say we start a twitter campain to try and get the bootloader unlocked.
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Didnt a engineering BootLoader leak in that RUU yesterday?
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Could you find it and check it out? That could be vital to unlocking it. Do you have a link?
Twitter campaign now!!!
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Oh well. Waiting for the next good thing or will get the nexus.
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oh man this is depressing :|
Twitter campaign. Use #dontbuyhtc
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I plan on deving but am waiting for cm7 and some aosp kernels as I will build off of cm7 base
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I might be wrong but without an unlocked bootloader how do you plan on running anything but the moto kernel?
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I might be wrong but without an unlocked bootloader how do you plan on running anything but the moto kernel?
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I was wondering the same thing. If he has a way PLEASE share lol
that would be awesome if there was another way lol.
COME ON PUDDING!
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I might be wrong but without an unlocked bootloader how do you plan on running anything but the moto kernel?
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As unfortunate as that may be (and it is really unfortunate) my CM7 work is going to be based on Moto's kernel because I have no choice in the matter atm. That being said, it only takes a few tweaks to make a new boot.img that can be flashed to the phone if and when we get an unlocked bootloader.
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As unfortunate as that may be (and it is really unfortunate) my CM7 work is going to be based on Moto's kernel because I have no choice in the matter atm. That being said, it only takes a few tweaks to make a new boot.img that can be flashed to the phone if and when we get an unlocked bootloader.
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Wouldn't it work using 2nd init, similar to the OG X?
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Just out of curiosity, For unlocked phones, is the cm7 ROM use the same kernel for all phones? Or is it tailor made for a specific phone?
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Man, I can't wait to see this phone get opened wide! I am about to get the Bionic though...
AtLemacks said:
Man, I can't wait to see this phone get opened wide! I am about to get the Bionic though...
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Why would you get another moto phone with a locked bloader. This **** was a mistake.
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ilovesoad said:
Why would you get another moto phone with a locked bloader. This sh** was a mistake.
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Can we tone down with the foul language please.
Thanks,
Mr. Clown said:
Can we tone down with the foul language please.
Thanks,
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Thank you.
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ilovesoad said:
Why would you get another moto phone with a locked bloader. This **** was a mistake.
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Which phone do you think they will crack first? More then likely the Bionic, besides, its a much better device.
Don't forget there will be even better choices on VZW than Bionic b4 in a month or 2
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Which phone do you think they will crack first? More then likely the Bionic, besides, its a much better device.
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I'm betting that unless dev files are found, which is entirely random, it doesn't happen. But im willing to donate a lot for the person who gets it done =D
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Which phone do you think they will crack first? More then likely the Bionic, besides, its a much better device.
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Haven't you noticed that only tegra devices have been unlocked. The bionic might be in the same boat as the og dx
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I am glad actually that I have until the end of November for my contract to be up. There are a few devices I am waiting on and I am keeping my fingers crossed for a ICS Nexus device by XMAS.
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Hello, I've rooted my ota Gingerbread x2 with "Petes motorola rooting tools" but would l ike to overclock. The stock droid x2 kernal does not seem to allow overclocking. IS there a kernal available for this?
Steve
Because of the locked bootloader there are no 3rd party kernels available.
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As BrianKLV said, the bootloader is locked. Until that is unlocked we won't get any over-clocking done. The best thing you can do right now is run the SuperCharger scripts as far as helping performance.
How do we still get these kinds of questions? It's silly...
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ferg40 said:
How do we still get these kinds of questions? It's silly...
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It's actually not that silly. I was wondering the same thing because I had the Droid X and was able to overclock it and it had a locked bootloader. So one would think, that if it can be done with the Droid X then overclocking should be able to be done with the Droid X 2.
From what I've read, overclocking can be done with 2nd-init, But it took the DX almost a year to get there, so the DX2 might be a little faster but it's still too soon to expect any results.
It's all got to do with the most important resource any of these phones have : independent development by creative people.
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The EFF should push for a law were companies can not lock their products haha
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IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
The EFF should push for a law were companies can not lock their products haha
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Because we buy subsidized phones from carriers in the United States, the locks aren't something we could fight, really.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17318637&postcount=223
About d3 and dx2 vs dx
I had a droid x2 and it did not need 2nd-init for overclocking. i just used jrummys overclocking app.
gkitab said:
I had a droid x2 and it did not need 2nd-init for overclocking. i just used jrummys overclocking app.
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That will not over clock it.
gkitab said:
I had a droid x2 and it did not need 2nd-init for overclocking. i just used jrummys overclocking app.
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Dumb...
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gkitab said:
I had a droid x2 and it did not need 2nd-init for overclocking. i just used jrummys overclocking app.
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Yeah... No.
Ha! Whoops, I should have check my spelling. I really made myself look like a dumb ass.
I meant I had a Droid X and it did not need unlocked bootloader or 2nd init to overclock. I use to use jrummys overclocking app long before 2nd init even came out for the X.
So that being the case its possible that our X2s may be able to still be overclocked. It may just take some waiting. Hopefully its sooner than later.
gkitab said:
Ha! Whoops, I should have check my spelling. I really made myself look like a dumb ass.
I meant I had a Droid X and it did not need unlocked bootloader or 2nd init to overclock. I use to use jrummys overclocking app long before 2nd init even came out for the X.
So that being the case its possible that our X2s may be able to still be overclocked. It may just take some waiting. Hopefully its sooner than later.
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The X had a Dev phone version that was unlocked. Because of this the community had access to many files that otherwise would be unaccessible. With these they were able to create kernel modules that allowed overclocking even with a locked boot loader.
Unfortunately there are no X2 Dev phones in the wild. No Dev phone = no files, no files = no way to create a overclocking module, hence no way to currently overclock the X2.
Our only hope is a unlocked bootloader or a module based off the atrix kernel, unfortunately the people who are in the know don't really seem interested in trying. To busy with 4G phones lol.
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I see thanks for info. Its nice when people actually take time to explain things to people with lesser knowledge. Without that less experienced people would not learn things.
gkitab said:
I see thanks for info. Its nice when people actually take time to explain things to people with lesser knowledge. Without that less experienced people would not learn things.
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Cheers, I like explaining stuff lol.
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gkitab said:
Without that less experienced people would not learn things.
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Not true.
Not to be rude, but when I didn't have experience I read. It would have taken about 30 seconds of searching on google to find out that the X2 cannot be overclocked and why, probably less time than it took to create this thread.
Laziness, pure and simple.
When I have an issue I read. I was just putting out what I knew. Which wasn't the correct answer and Someone with more knowledge corrected me. Which taught me something new that I was unaware of and I appreciated.
So I hope you were talking about the person that created the original post, not me.
Speaking for the original poster. If you don't have anything constructive to add to the tread, you should avoid being an ass and shut your mouth. We have all been there in the beginning when experimenting and trying to find info. There is alot of info and reading to due, so it is also easy to miss something or not understand correctly.
So your post is a pointless waste of time and added absolutely nothing constructive.
Koush said via Twitter that he would make a bootstrap recovery for the X2/D3 if someone lent him a device. Well, lookie here:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/13/clockworkmod-recovery-booted-up-on-droid3/
Are we next? Would love recovery that didn't require a wall charger...
Somebody get that man an X2...
i tweeted @koush but got no reply
im new to android devices does this mean that the bootloader is unlocked if this is running on a device?
gnuworldorder said:
im new to android devices does this mean that the bootloader is unlocked if this is running on a device?
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No this is just a recovery its like our bootstrap apk but it has a newer recovery img on it
I have a spare x2. Bad esn(?) though. I lost it, got replacement, but didnt tell vzw. Would he still want it?
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This is for the ti Omap processor :/
ericerk said:
This is for the ti Omap processor :/
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Good observation. However, he mentioned a package deal on twitter, similar to the X/d2 bootstrap.
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mistawolfe said:
Good observation. However, he mentioned a package deal on twitter, similar to the X/d2 bootstrap.
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Again Sorry to be a debbie downer, but this isn't koush, this is HashCode, (Their Version of Tenfar) Except they're not tethered...Also Koush Would Probably do a bulk release
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Again Sorry to be a debbie downer, but this isn't koush, this is HashCode, (Their Version of Tenfar) Except they're not tethered...Also Koush Would Probably do a bulk release
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what do you mean by tethered? are you saying d3 doesn't have to be plugged into the wall?
Sandso9 said:
what do you mean by tethered? are you saying d3 doesn't have to be plugged into the wall?
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Yuppp Exactly what i'm saying!
ericerk said:
Yuppp Exactly what i'm saying!
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wow that makes me a little pissed i want that freedom
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wow that makes me a little pissed i want that freedom
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Lol yeah... That would be nice!!
Well bionic has it now to now how about the x2?
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Well bionic has it now to now how about the x2?
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bionic is alot closer to D3 and such than our X2, Tegra2 vs OMAP4. Sadly none of these really make a difference for our device due to different hardware/software yadda yadda
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bionic is alot closer to D3 and such than our X2, Tegra2 vs OMAP4. Sadly none of these really make a difference for our device due to different hardware/software yadda yadda
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Well to be redundant the atrix is similar!!
Again, Koush said D3/X2 bootstrap. We now have a D3 bootstrap. Just being optimistic.
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mistawolfe said:
Again, Koush said D3/X2 bootstrap. We now have a D3 bootstrap. Just being optimistic.
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this bootstrap isn't made by koush the d3/bionic is by Hashcode
Just to clarify, whats the difference between CWM and the bootstrap we have now?
IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
I have a spare x2. Bad esn(?) though. I lost it, got replacement, but didnt tell vzw. Would he still want it?
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As long as the phone functions fine this would work perfect. He would not have to activate it at all.
So my brother got a limited edition red and black RAZR maxx so it looks like I will be here as well as the Rezound forums . I have never had a motor phone before so I might ask some questions. Any major differences from HTC phones?
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Lots of differences, most of them for the worse. Welcome to the world of locked bootloaders, regional signatures, and easy bricking.
On the plus side, that kevlar back is still pretty *****in'.
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Yes I'm not planning on going with it much simpler because it's my brothers.
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onslaught86 said:
Lots of differences, most of them for the worse. Welcome to the world of locked bootloaders, regional signatures, and easy bricking.
On the plus side, that kevlar back is still pretty *****in'.
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So in your opinion it's fairly easy to brick a RAZR? I understand if you flash cdma rom but I have not seen anyone bricking it?
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Welcome to the forums!
eyriiii said:
So in your opinion it's fairly easy to brick a RAZR? I understand if you flash cdma rom but I have not seen anyone bricking it?
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I'm guessing he means soft-bricking? It's pretty darn easy to do that though. Hard brick, not so much. I once wiped /system and accidentally turned off my phone. Still managed to restore it.
Anyway, welcome to the Razr community. Look around, get your bearings, and start flashing random stuff. My advice? Not everything can be found on xda. So try looking around in other forums and stuff.
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I'm guessing he means soft-bricking? It's pretty darn easy to do that though. Hard brick, not so much. I once wiped /system and accidentally turned off my phone. Still managed to restore it.
Anyway, welcome to the Razr community. Look around, get your bearings, and start flashing random stuff. My advice? Not everything can be found on xda. So try looking around in other forums and stuff.
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I will thanks. Are there serious problems of you end up flashing a gsm rom to a cdma phone or if you flash back will they be fixed? I also thanks everyone for the awesome welcome to the forums
Also, I think phone manufacturer's have perpusly made it hard to brick phones. I know someone one the Rezound forums tried to before we had s-off and couldn't
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I will thanks. Are there serious problems of you end up flashing a gsm rom to a cdma phone or if you flash back will they be fixed? I also thanks everyone for the awesome welcome to the forums
Also, I think phone manufacturer's have perpusly made it hard to brick phones. I know someone one the Rezound forums tried to before we had s-off and couldn't
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Dont flash a gsm rom to cdma. Chances are you could recover but it wont work so its not worth trying
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flashman2002 said:
Dont flash a gsm rom to cdma. Chances are you could recover but it wont work so its not worth trying
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I ment accidentally. Mistakes happen sometimes
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werdna87 said:
I ment accidentally. Mistakes happen sometimes
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The only way that would happen is if you dont read the rom thread. These roms are split out between cdma and gsm. I havent seen one that didnt specify which phone it was for.
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The only way that would happen is if you dont read the rom thread. These roms are split out between cdma and gsm. I havent seen one that didnt specify which phone it was for.
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I know but I have never really had to look before
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Welcome to the best battery life you have ever had. That IS the party piece of the Razr Maxx!
Touch-ee said:
Welcome to the best battery life you have ever had. That IS the party piece of the Razr Maxx!
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Sadly it s not mine It's my brothers so I can't look forward to that Haha. I do love my Rezound though but the battery life is pretty crappy
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