Why can't I take pictures in 16:9 when I have the resolution set at 3264:2448?
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hmm...anyone?
The reason why you can't get 16:9 ratio is because 3264:2448 is 4:3 ratio.
(Try dividing by the GCM = 816 and you'll get 4:3)
Aspect ratio is the ratio of the horizontal pixels to the vertical pixels; this means the aspect ratio is directly related, and it's not possible to change the aspect ratio without changing the total horizontal to vertical pixel count.
kohiiou said:
The reason why you can't get 16:9 ratio is because 3264:2448 is 4:3 ratio.
(Try dividing by the GCM = 816 and you'll get 4:3)
Aspect ratio is the ratio of the horizontal pixels to the vertical pixels; this means the aspect ratio is directly related, and it's not possible to change the aspect ratio without changing the total horizontal to vertical pixel count.
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But I can change to 16:9 ratio with my brothers desire hd in 3264:2448 resolution.
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Maybe you should read these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)
And it is 5:3 (or 15:9) instead of 16:9 EDIT: 16:9 would be little wider. But becaus Samsung have 800x480 resolution, 5:3 will be max that you can go.
8M: 3264/2448=1.3333 = 4:3 (aspect ratio)
W6.5M: 3264/1968 = 1.65853659 ~1.66 (15:9 = 5:3)
And because samsung have 800x480 resolution wich means: 800/480 = 1.66666667 = 15:9 = 5:3
So W6.5M means that you now use full screen.
Yufina said:
Maybe you should read these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)
And it is 5:3 (or 15:9) instead of 16:9 EDIT: 16:9 would be little wider. But becaus Samsung have 800x480 resolution, 5:3 will be max that you can go.
8M: 3264/2448=1.3333 = 4:3 (aspect ratio)
W6.5M: 3264/1968 = 1.65853659 ~1.66 (15:9 = 5:3)
And because samsung have 800x480 resolution wich means: 800/480 = 1.66666667 = 15:9 = 5:3
So W6.5M means that you now use full screen.
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just to be clear, the W6.5M and 8M doesn't stand for megapixels, right?
Nope. Those are megapixels. As you can see:
3264*2448 = 7 990 272 ~8Megapixels
3264*1968 = 6 423 552 ~6.5Megapixel
Also more Megapixels dosen't always mean better camera or image
EDIT: Also I think that W means "Wide" so you can be sure that those will use 5:3 aspect ratio (or just full screen) instead of 4:3.
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Nope. Those are megapixels. As you can see:
3264*2448 = 7 990 272 ~8Megapixels
3264*1968 = 6 423 552 ~6.5Megapixel
Also more Megapixels dosen't always mean better camera or image
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ah ok, thanks I'm gonna use W6.5M as i cant stand 4:3, I just hope that there wont be much difference between the 6.5 and 8 megapixels.
I also hate 4:3, because it's sound as old-fashoned as it is . And today everything are so wide. But as for 6.5M, I think that max print size will be ~11 x 6.5″, so i think it will be enought (at least for me).
EDIT: if you want 300dpi print
Just divine by dpi:
3264/300= 10.88 inches
1968/300= 6.56 inches
Whenever I get photos off the internet with higher resolutions than 1080 x 960 and crop them to that resolution they come out a little blurry. I've seen other wallpapers that were very sharp so I know its not this display. Should I crop them to the correct aspect ratio then scale them to 1080 x 960 or what? A response would be much appreciated.
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Whenever I get photos off the internet with higher resolutions than 1080 x 960 and crop them to that resolution they come out a little blurry. I've seen other wallpapers that were very sharp so I know its not this display. Should I crop them to the correct aspect ratio then scale them to 1080 x 960 or what? A response would be much appreciated.
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You want to crop them, not scale them. Scaling them will distort and compress the pixels, making it lose quality. Your probably saving the jpg at a low quality, save it at 100%, it really won't hurt anything .
I just sold my transformer prime infinity...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
Well I was just looking around here and I don't have a Nexus 10. I got a Galaxy Note 10.1 and from my experience the picture matters a lot.
I mean there are a lot of wallpaper sites with ultra HD and optimized wallpapers for retina display, but the same resolution is not always the same sharpness. some are crappy cropped or zoomed.
Use quickpic to set your background picture. The stock gallery app sometimes crops the pictures false.
And pictures with a resolution below the maximum resolution will always look a bit crappy. that means that when you are using a fullHD picture, which was nice for transformer prime, it can look less sharp on a display with higher resolution like nexus 10
I too come from Prime and there is no contest, this screen is sharper than Prime by miles.
How stuff looks will depend on what you are seeing.
If you have set regular wallpaper, it will look all blurry thanks to resolution. Even so called HD wallpapers will look blurry on this. You need to go search for wallpapers for MacBook Pro retina and use those on this tablet using quickpic. None of the apps from Android market have good wallpapers that are having native resolution of this tablet.
Text is sharp and crisp on this.
Most arcade games are not optimised for this screen and look terrible or blurry. That is not screen's fault.
Desktop web pages look nice full and crisp. So only real issue of lack of sharpness comes into picture when the content is not ready for screen. That includes apps, images and games.
I also come from Prime.
I wouldn't say the Prime screen looks sharper than the Nexus 10. Reading text on the N10, for example, the resolution is really amazing, very nice on the Nexus 10.
The colors and brightness and blacks is a different story. The Prime had those 3 much nicer than the Nexus 10. I loved playing Marble Blast on the Prime, the graphics looked amazingly vivid. On the Nexus 10 they appear as meh.
Its the prime infinity. Drastic difference. What a shame. Gonna put the nex up 4sale.
suzook said:
I just sold my transformer prime...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
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It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
404 ERROR said:
It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
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I actually have to disagree with you a little bit here. 720p video should look just as good on the Nexus 10 as it does on the Note 10.1. 1280x800 times 2 is 2560x1600. Because of that each pixel of a 720p video will take up exactly 4 pixels on the Nexus 10; however those 4 pixels on the N10 are the same area that would be a single pixel on the Note 10.1. This is a clean ratio. On the TF700 you got to 1920x1200 which is 1.5 times 1280x800. This is not a whole ratio and means that pixels of a 720p video will take up between 1 and 4 pixels on the TF700 display (determined by a fancy algorithm for scaling images).
The Nexus 10 playing 1080p video should have about the same blurriness as the TF700 playing 720p video.
Nitemare3219 said:
Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
suzook said:
Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Lol as a former owner of both (returned Prime C1 for 700 a C6 then returned that, and I started the thread in Prime forums for users who Asus lost our first mailed GPS dongles)- your fooling yourself or you got a N10 with a bad screen
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suzook said:
Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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The problem with this screen is calibration and black levels.
Colors are extremely washed, red is a poor red, same with blue. This totally kills the screen. If you compare this with ipad screen, you will cry. Not because of viewing angles, not because of brightness, because of colours. Google was really smart when they decided not to calibrate their screens, same with nexus 4, while other OEMs take care of this thing deeply.
And black, despite numbers of the reviews, its quite poor, mostly because every single unit has light bleed (some with a hard mess, others this problem is smaller)
As a result, a top screen with such a poor implementation. This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one, with many pixels, but nothing else. And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
Straf said:
And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
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light bleed is not a software issue
Techie2012 said:
light bleed is not a software issue
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Yep, meant the calibration thing, it's about software. Black thing is because a bad manufacturing process, probably because of low price tag., or crappy manufacturers.
blackhand1001 said:
You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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Wow...that blows. Maybe we need a 4.1 ROM??
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
Yep, I completely agree with one of the previous posters, this is definetly a black level issue. I put the iPad with a Retina Display right against a Nexus 10 both playing the same 1080i MKV. The iPad clearly won.
I still like the Nexus 10 a lot and I find it very comfortable to use because of how thin it is and how light it is, but to improve the product I think Google missed it some here. They could lowered the resolution considerably (1920 x 1080 is more than fine), improved on black level, and used the same processor. The lower resolution would have allowed that processor to scream since it wouldn't have been as taxed to interpolate so many pixels.
I don't know if it is a software issue or not, but if it is I really hope Google releases a fix. If there was a way to adjust Gamma or Contrast it might help considerably.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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There's no way on earth text (or other computer generated content like the UI and icons) will look better on a 147PPI display (Prime) vs. 224PPI (TF700) or 300PPI (N10). The reason is as 404 Error did a great job of explaining is that text is a 1:1 match pixel wise; the more pixels the sharper the image. Photos and videos display even the clearest content over multiple pixels so the advantage of a higher PPI becomes less pronounced. And the human eye (even yours) can't resolve sharpness over 229PPI beyond 15". So, your 20/20 eyes are decieving you. The N10 has less contrast and isn't as bright as older displays so that might be what you're reacting to.
Straf said:
This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one,
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well lets hope this guy will change that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9H-TtObBY
tacitust said:
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
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Mine has this problem and so do at least a few others. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007676
I'm still debating if it annoys me enough to justify an exchange.
I am interested in this device, but I have a question about the camera.
Is it possible to change the picture resolution to a 16:9 aspect ratio (even though the screen is not 16:9)? And if so, at what megapixels count is it?
To compare: my compact camera has 16 megapixels and in the settings there is a 16:9 aspect ratio available, but at 12 megapixels which is fine.
ecb1 said:
I am interested in this device, but I have a question about the camera.
Is it possible to change the picture resolution to a 16:9 aspect ratio (even though the screen is not 16:9)? And if so, at what megapixels count is it?
To compare: my compact camera has 16 megapixels and in the settings there is a 16:9 aspect ratio available, but at 12 megapixels which is fine.
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Is 18:9 and 10 megapixels
Thanks. No P20 lite for me then, although I can crop the pictures to 16:9 myself.
I am not a fan of those new aspect ratio phones, I like 16:9 better.