Because of the constant bugs and my general disapproval of the device, I have decided I don't want it anymore; so I put it on Craigslist. One of the offers I got was for a cr-48 chromebook laptop with windows 7 installed and an upgraded graphics chip. The laptop is a 13" that looks like a matte black MacBook pro. I'd be using it primarily for school. I'm definitely interested, but I'm not sure what I should do.
Should I trade or not? I will most likely receive cash with it as well.
The cpu in that CR-48 is not powerful. Don't compare it to a Macbook, or even an Air. Its on par with netbooks, and netbooks can't do much else beyond running word processing
I had a CR-48. I hated it. Its uses were very limited, and the thing was SLOW. I didn't have Windows 7 installed on it, but I can't imagine Windows 7 being any better considering the low-end hardware inside. I would absolutely not do this.
I see. I kept thinking the same thing because of the tablet's quad core and how I'd be taking a performance hit by trading. I guess I'll just return it or whatever, lol
Yea... totally not worth it. I'm using Debian on my CR-48 right now and its not really up to par for daily use.
Also, if he said the CR-58 had an "upgraded graphics chip" he's lying to you and I would get away from him ASAP.
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Yea... totally not worth it. I'm using Debian on my CR-48 right now and its not really up to par for daily use.
Also, if he said the CR-58 had an "upgraded graphics chip" he's lying to you and I would get away from him ASAP.
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He said he replaced the Verizon network chip with an upgraded chip or something.
You can get a cr-48 for around $250 on ebay. Dude is trying to rip u off. It looks nice but the hardware is weak.
ebay.com/itm/Google-CR-48-Laptop-Notebook-MINT-w-all-original-everything-/220953327770?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item3371d8389a
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The form factor is really the only thing the cr-48 has going for it. Don't do it.
My CR-48 hasn't been turned on in 4 months. It was fun in the beginning but it cant even play 720p YouTube videos.
This is exactly what he said in an email:
"Everything works 100%. It even has things like two finger scrolling, for the track pad, and the volume keys mapped to the correct function buttons. The only thing I can think of that doesn't work is the function button (f4 & f5) for brightness on the keyboard, and that's only because windows won't use the 'Function' buttons for brightness, where the chrome OS would have. Other than that, everything works very well, and quite quickly too. Because of the SSD, it runs surprisingly fast, even with the full OS loaded, and things like Aero on(the transparencies, and special effects in Windows 7). I can guarantee absolutely zero massive slowness, although I will safely say that it is no gaming PC, so don't expect it to play Crysis on it. Like I said before, I did upgrade the graphics card in it. That required that I remove the Globi 3000 chip, which was for the Verizon 3g data plan. That's because I had no use for the Verizon chip, and with the graphics card in, it does run much smoother than stock. The chip I used was the Broadcom BCM970012, if you wanted to look up more info on it. You can play 1080p YouTube or vimeo videos with no stutters, which is quite impressive for what is essentially a netbook. This netbook has been my main computer for the past six months, with no problems whatsoever."
Does that sound legit?
Well i'd wait for windows on ARM, if you have to have windows :/ I hate windows7 on a mobile device. Thats why i got the Prime. And i'm happy with it.
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Well i'd wait for windows on ARM, if you have to have windows :/ I hate windows7 on a mobile device. Thats why i got the Prime. And i'm happy with it.
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Yeah exactly, but this tablet can't do a lot of the things I do on Windows, and on top of that this tablet is buggy as hell right now. The 8MP camera is really the only thing keeping me from returning it, because I blog for youtube. I wanted to get a flip camera, but this seemed like a better investment.
Seems like the blogging went from you tube to XDA now smile
You would be out of your mind. They are not even in the same ball park.
not even close and i also bet he's lying to you on the graphics card thing as their really no way to upgrade that thing
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This is exactly what he said in an email:
"Everything works 100%. It even has things like two finger scrolling, for the track pad, and the volume keys mapped to the correct function buttons. The only thing I can think of that doesn't work is the function button (f4 & f5) for brightness on the keyboard, and that's only because windows won't use the 'Function' buttons for brightness, where the chrome OS would have. Other than that, everything works very well, and quite quickly too. Because of the SSD, it runs surprisingly fast, even with the full OS loaded, and things like Aero on(the transparencies, and special effects in Windows 7). I can guarantee absolutely zero massive slowness, although I will safely say that it is no gaming PC, so don't expect it to play Crysis on it. Like I said before, I did upgrade the graphics card in it. That required that I remove the Globi 3000 chip, which was for the Verizon 3g data plan. That's because I had no use for the Verizon chip, and with the graphics card in, it does run much smoother than stock. The chip I used was the Broadcom BCM970012, if you wanted to look up more info on it. You can play 1080p YouTube or vimeo videos with no stutters, which is quite impressive for what is essentially a netbook. This netbook has been my main computer for the past six months, with no problems whatsoever."
Does that sound legit?
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It is certainly possible:
http://www.chromeosforums.net/forum.../517-cr48-ssd-upgrade-broadcom-bcm970012.html
I can haz bedder raisins, plz?
Just saying... I don't see substantial reasoning that would even remotely justify such a trade.
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is this device worth <200$? opinions on your device please, and also thoughts on before/after android porting!
i have the option of getting a 16 or a 32 for <200$ and am wondering if this is a piece of junk or worth getting.
or if i should just get something like a kindle fire.
uses: entertainment, ereading, videos, games, actually wtf do people use touchpads for????
ICS source is out so HE** the F*** YES it's worth it!
it was worth it b4, now I'm going to be busy.
lol
I use my touchpad for everything I need to do. The webos side has good apps for work and the cm7 side gives me netflix, games, video, photos, skype, ect... the TP is a very usefull tablet. If you get one for 200 and find you don't like it, PM me and we might be able to work something out, especially if you get the 32GB unit.
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I just put CM7 Alpha 2.1 on it this weekend and it is amazing how well an Alpha is running on this thing. If you can get a 32 gig for less than $200 you aren't that far off from the fire sale price.
I have a Nook Color with CM7 as well. I think both size devices have their merits so it depends what you want to use them for.
seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
I actually like WebOS.
I'm in WebOS most of the time.
that might change once ICS comes over.
webOS, you will use most of the time because it's nice to be in and it's the most useful. You can get to where you need to be quick. Skype call? No problem. Email? Coming right up. And while I'm reading a Wikipedia page and Facebooking at the same time, I can buy a scooter from Amazon. Not to mention reading a magazine and downloading podcasts and listening to music. I can do every single one of those things, all at one time.
That's the point of getting a tablet, right?
That's just it. webOS puts you at the center of all the action. It's a tablet in the way it's supposed to be.
That's something no other tablet can do. Anywhere. It's unmatched. And on top of allllll that, you still have the latest version of Android. Useless?! It's the furthest thing from.
oh didnt know you can have BOTH android and webOS. weird.
why do people have gripes about webOS then?
i already have a samsung galaxy phone, so i dont want the same thing but bigger (unless i can read better on it)
Exactly.
In order to be a good operating system, everything has to come together. You cannot miss one thing. WebOS has an app store, but you won't see many big name companies (the ones that matter) developing apps for it.
The problem with A & I tabletwise is that it doesn't work that different from your phone.
Which means the productivity, is not there.
I'm in Android watching a YouTube video, but as soon as I open another webpage, the video stops.
I'm in iOS and I get an email, or I want to look up how to beat this level of Angry Birds, if I enter the Internet, bye-bye Angry Birds, I have to start all over.
Those are big problems. WebOS saved us from that.
While you can do more in webOS, the ironic thing is, there's less apps, so you can't use that fantastic multitasking on everything you would like to.
So webOS used to be on thin ice, but better apps are coming in.
Still, this is a big problem for any tablet maker. We need a system where you can just push apps to make them compatible with any tablet device, or we are going to be stuck with iOS and Android as the only operating systems there are.
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seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
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If you don't mod the TouchPad, it's not truly a POS. with the original firmware, yes, it's the most laggy experience ever. But ever since the latest official firmware update, it becomes infinitely more usable.
If you apply the relevant preware patches and overclock on top of that, it becomes pretty darn snappy.
So WebOS is definitely still alive and kicking.
The latest CM Alpha is indeed impressive. But I still have trouble using it as my daily OS primarily due to the faster battery drain. But I'm sure that's just a temporary issue.
At the firesale price of $99 for a 16GB, it's a steal. I would say that it would even be worth it at $200.
But keep in mind that you're within range of getting one of these:
Kindle Fire is $199
Nook Tablet is $249
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Same here, been my main computer for a week or two now. Except i exclusively use CM and haven't touched webos in a long time.
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Woth it? Well, if there will be a stable ICS port, and you understand what is a tablet and how you could use it, it's worth it, i guess. Personally, after i bought it i understood that there are quite few tasks that i could use a tablet for, so this thing just lies on my table, collecting dust.
Anyway, if you are going to buy TP NOW, better look in the Nook Tablet direction: for $250 you will have more compact tablet with better CPU/GPU and microsd slot.
I'm sitting at my laptop, but I'm using my TouchPad anyway because it's so fun to use.
I have to agree with Unrealwolf. If you have a purpose for a tablet, it is a good one for the price. It would be nice to have the SD Cord slot but the only reason I filled up my 16GB is because I put on 2GB of music and 20 full length MP4 movies.
At home I seldom use my laptop because I do all my email, social networking, and web browsing (ie. shopping, research, and forum updates) on a tablet (I have both a TP and a Nook Color). Very much worth it to me.
doh the deal got away
should i continue hunting or go for a fire/nook? not sure how well they compare but prices are close
Not too sure yet about the new nook tablet but the fire is getting some less than stellar reviews today. Seems to be a bit laggy. After using my touchpad for a while, I have a hard time going back to my nook color 7 inch screen. I am actually starting to develop apps in enyo for the touchpad. I really like webos as well as cm7. For me, the touchpad gives me the besr of both worlds.
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Im getting my touchpad on wednesday. 159 euros 32gb on Cyberport. Is it still worth it or shall i wait for kindle fire?
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My doubt is simple, i have a chance to aquire a 32gb black HP touchpad, 1 yo (still 1 year warranty) in perfect condition, for 200€.
Given the state of Android on this tab, would you advise me to buy it ?
For 200 eurodollars. Prob not. Wait and get the Asus/Google tablet for 199 new.
I also found a Viewsonic 10S for the same amount.
Highly confused... also, those 199$ will translate into 400€ back home
Trust me...
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I also found a Viewsonic 10S for the same amount.
Highly confused... also, those 199$ will translate into 400€ back home
Trust me...
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I got a 32gb for 195 USD shipped from someone on ebay
Everything gets a little more expensive after crossing european borders.
So i'm quite happy if i can get either of them from 200€...
Just need to ear reasonable people on the status of Android for the HP TP...
daedric said:
Everything gets a little more expensive after crossing european borders.
So i'm quite happy if i can get either of them from 200€...
Just need to ear reasonable people on the status of Android for the HP TP...
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all in all its the best tablet I have ever gotten. I have not even put android on it yet
I would recommend it at that price. Granted, the TP is EOL, but currently, in my opinion, it is one of the best tablets on the market for its price thanks to the great development community.
Just my .02
I had an Asus transformer I bought for my wife. I had to sell it after comparing it to my TouchPad. The Touchpad blew it out of the water speed wise. I was appalled. I am not a big supporter of Tegra chips and I know most Tablet manufactures used them because of their low price point where as the TI chip in the TP is a little speed demon. I am sure the GPU on the Tegra is better but I couldn't tell when comparing games except that the Touchpad ran them sooo much smoother with what looked like a higher FPS.
Also it was either one of the first or the first tablet to get ICS so you have amazing support on the device even though its as dead as a zombie
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I had an Asus transformer I bought for my wife. I had to sell it after comparing it to my TouchPad. The Touchpad blew it out of the water speed wise. I was appalled. I am not a big supporter of Tegra chips and I know most Tablet manufactures used them because of their low price point where as the TI chip in the TP is a little speed demon. I am sure the GPU on the Tegra is better but I couldn't tell when comparing games except that the Touchpad ran them sooo much smoother with what looked like a higher FPS.
Also it was either one of the first or the first tablet to get ICS so you have amazing support on the device even though its as dead as a zombie
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TouchPad has a Qualcomm (8060) chip, not TI.
But as for your question, the TouchPad is just OK in my opinion. I tend to use my computer and Galaxy Nexus over it for most activities. There is a very select few times that I prefer it over other devices.
That being said, and assuming you have a reason to use it more than me, it's a decent choice. Especially at it's price point. Android on it is astonishing, it's extremely quick in real world performance, and you have the option of using webOS. My biggest gripe by far is the screen. It's unbearably low-res in my opinion. It looks quiet pixelated.
Just my 2 cents.
I now stand on a dillema:
I can got either a Touchpad, or a Viewsonic 10S for the same price, same conditions.
Both have their pros and cons... And i can hardly get a good review on Touchpad's Android, or the Viewsonic's Android (ICS)...
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I now stand on a dillema:
I can got either a Touchpad, or a Viewsonic 10S for the same price, same conditions.
Both have their pros and cons... And i can hardly get a good review on Touchpad's Android, or the Viewsonic's Android (ICS)...
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i don't know the specs on the viewsonic but if same specs and price, i'd go for the viewsonic
In my honest opinion i absolutely love my touchpad. There is nothing that i can't do on it. I have it set up with both webos and cm9. Webos is slightly better in battery life, but i guess i never really notice it because i always boot into cm9. Everything i need as a daily driver words in cm9. I watch netflix on it daily and all other youtube videos. games are great as well. The only time i boot into webos is when i need to make a skype call, other than that im always on android. First of all, its really easy put ice cream sandwich on it, second...threres no need for a second. Its a great tablet no matter what os you run on it. And the best part is all of the developers that support and use our very loved tablet. Granted i only payed $220 for my touchpad, but knowing what i know now, i would have easily payed $400. You get the best of both worlds, webos is an AMAZING os(besides the limitation on apps), and android is decent(but has most the apps). So i say go for the touchpad and enjoy it!
my TouchPad has replaced every laptop I own for my go to choice for couch surfing etc. Running CM9 its by far the best Tablet I've played with - and since I was lucky enough to get my 32GB for $150 in the original fire sale - for me - the price can't be beat by anything out there these days. I just even installed TexTab so I can send and receive SMS messages from my TP (connected through bluetooth to my phone) saving me battery life on my phone as well.
I've been running Android on it since it was first made available - I've never gone back to WebOS at all.
I have used 3 different Android ICS Roms on my TP. Amazing. Fast, smooth, stable (even though ICS is still technically an Alpha release). The only things that WebOS has over Android at this point is functional camera and microphone (needed for Skype) and better battery life. When WebOS is put in sleep mode it uses virtually no battery that I can detect. Android in sleep mode still uses about 1% per hour.
I find myself using Android at least 90% of the time. And I disagree with the previous post about the screen resolution. I find it to be quite good actually.
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i don't know the specs on the viewsonic but if same specs and price, i'd go for the viewsonic
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This is pure specs, not benchmarks. Also, the touchpad is refered running WebOS, and not CM9. But you can still check the specs... the 3G is a bonus, guranteed.
But i belive the touchpad will be alot faster...
http://www.91mobiles.com/compare/ViewSonic/ViewPad+10s/vs/HP+Mobile/TouchPad.html
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This is pure specs, not benchmarks. Also, the touchpad is refered running WebOS, and not CM9. But you can still check the specs... the 3G is a bonus, guranteed.
But i belive the touchpad will be alot faster...
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If you're buying a tablet, I'm of the opinion that the quality of the screen should be the first concern, and the Viewsonic has a terrible screen in comparison to the Touchpad. The Touchpad should be the same speed or faster, and both have ICS. Just think, you're going to be staring at the screen the whole time and at different angles. The Viewsonic's screen will wash out if you hold it the wrong way, the Touchpad's won't.
I'm glad to see so much support of the Touchpad in this forum. I just got mine yesterday and sadly the audiojack is busted so off it goes again to HP. Someday soon I'll have it back and get to see what all this fuss is about!
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If you're buying a tablet, I'm of the opinion that the quality of the screen should be the first concern, and the Viewsonic has a terrible screen in comparison to the Touchpad. The Touchpad should be the same speed or faster, and both have ICS. Just think, you're going to be staring at the screen the whole time and at different angles. The Viewsonic's screen will wash out if you hold it the wrong way, the Touchpad's won't.
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True enough. The TP screen has to be better
But both have it's pros and cons, for example, the TouchPad does not have HDMI out.
I'll have to think about it...
I've had mine since Dec. (my first tablet and Android device) and I could not be happier.
Right now I cant see me not having one. I spend much less time in front of my pc now.
It takes care of most of my browsing, news and book reading, and a bit of arcade gaming.
As others said earlier, the only thing missing is the mic and camera (and wifi probs for some)... and if theyre really needed, you can simply boot into WebOS
while it is still in an early aplha phase, it's incredbily stable. More so than a beta release ics rom on my phone. Bar the mic and camera, everything is near on perfect. I picked up my touchpad for 150euro, so i can't really complain.
I am 12 days into my 14 day return window for my Sony Tablet S. I am dissapointed with the build quality of the Sony (kind of shocking for a Sony product) so I went to best buy today just to look around and saw the prime for the first time. I was blown away by how well constructed it felt and the ui seemed blazing fast. Screen looked great.
However, I have read about a lot of discontent with the device re wifi, gps, general availability, etc. It doesnt seem like a "no brainer". Some flaws are to be expected, but is this device plagued?
It is more than I want to spend, but I would also like to get into a device that I could grow into and I could convince myelf that spending $500 on a quad core device is a lot better investment than $400 on a dual core.
What do you all think? Would you jump again?
I would buy the Prime again.
Note that GPS will never be good enough for navigation use, which is why Asus removed it from the features list. So if you really wanted to use your WiFi tablet for navigation you might not like the Prime.
Other than GPS I have had no issues at all with my Prime. It works great and has replaced my laptop as my go-to device for browsing the web or playing games.
I've found that no manufacturer is immune from releasing crap from time to time. Even Apple made the Powermac G4 Cube, the Pippin, and the iPhone-4 antenna (you're holding it wrong). Sony made TERRIBLE hard disk drives back in the early 90s.
On my Prime, I'd buy it again with no reservation. IMHO, it's substantially more feature-rich than Apple's alternative. I can't figure out why the Apple faithful look down on having an SD card slot (or TWO, if you get the dock), and a USB. They say they prefer the smooth lines. I say they've had too much Kool-Aid.
Flash is on the decline, but it's STILL ominpresent. I sort of like actually HAVING flash compatability. The Apple fans say that they don't need Flash since it's dead... It'd be more accurate to say, "they don't HAVE Flash because of resource/security issues, it's on the decline, and it's the will of Landrew (too obscure?), but it's still all over the place."
I'm sure the screen on the new iPad will beat the snot out of the TP, but I would NOT make the tradeoff. For me, it's not worth it. For some, I understand that it is... I still look forward to real-world testing between
I guess it depends on the situation. As a tablet, it rocks and I love it. But now, my current gadget list is this:
Main Windows 7 PC (file/media server)
Dell Windows 7 Laptop with Dedicated Graphics (do most work on this, including gaming when I have time)
XBOX 360 (Mainly for media streaming and netflix)
Android Smartphone (Samsung Skyrocket)
ASUS Transformer Prime
Windows Phone 7 (work issued)
I feel totally over "gadgeted" and I am so looking for more of a united ecosystem. No, not so much like Apple (which is not as united as they like you to believe) but I get most of my work done on my laptop but I enjoy my tablet. Perhaps Windows 8 tablet with keyboard may be in my future. Just want to cut down on the number of gadgets I have.
id buy it again in a heartbeat. best tablet out in the market right now. even once new Ipad releases, it'll still be best in market, IMO. too many things the prime can do that the new Ipad doesn't. right out the box. I'd say buy a prime. very fast n no lag. plus we have great developer support so far.
I would buy it again, and in fact I am buying it again. My wife is dumping her ipad 1 since Apple F#^%$d it up with the ios 5 update and won't patch to fix it so I'm getting her one as well.
Oh and just an fyi:
It's a 5 core device not 4 core.
There is a "ninja" core as well that doesn't get a lot of press but from what I read is mostly i/o tasks to ensure no lag to screen / key inputs etc...
I know, the number of cores doesn't really matter if the software isn't written to support all of them anyway but it's still fun to pick on anything SONY and say mine is better.. stick that in your 40 page PS3 EULA, rootkit CDs... etc... lol
hint hint.. dump the SONY and get a TFP.
I think if there was other tegra 3 alternative out there right now I think some of the yes will be no lol.
I'd buy again anytime. One of the best purchases i made in the last years.
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I am 12 days into my 14 day return window for my Sony Tablet S. I am dissapointed with the build quality of the Sony (kind of shocking for a Sony product) so I went to best buy today just to look around and saw the prime for the first time. I was blown away by how well constructed it felt and the ui seemed blazing fast. Screen looked great.
However, I have read about a lot of discontent with the device re wifi, gps, general availability, etc. It doesnt seem like a "no brainer". Some flaws are to be expected, but is this device plagued?
It is more than I want to spend, but I would also like to get into a device that I could grow into and I could convince myelf that spending $500 on a quad core device is a lot better investment than $400 on a dual core.
What do you all think? Would you jump again?
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Go buy ipad, u hv same problem. And yes, i would buy the prime again.
Ask me 2 weeks ago I'd have said yes. Now I'd just tell you I'd wait for the Pad Infinity if I lose or have to return my Prime for any reason.
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This thing has been great for me. VERY versatile. Extremely happy with it.
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This thing has been great for me. VERY versatile. Extremely happy with it.
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Thanks. Love your username!
I would buy it again for sure. Great tablet and ics...just screams "buy me"
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I would buy it again as well. Has also replaced the need I had for a fully fledged laptop on the go. Between the weight, keyboard dock and battery life it is just perfect for my use case as a masters cs student, again on the go only, I still need a full computer of course but have multiple desktops for that.
Everything works fine for me on the tablet, tested gps once to see if it worked and it did at least standing still, haven't needed it since in three months almost now but won't count on it either as its proven flaky. Everything else is perfect even my wifi has connected everywhere I have needed it to so far.
I like mine. It does what I want to do very quickly and smoothly.
Bye.
Flash is on the decline, but it's STILL ominpresent. I sort of like actually HAVING flash compatability. The Apple fans say that they don't need Flash since it's dead... It'd be more accurate to say, "they don't HAVE Flash because of resource/security issues, it's on the decline, and it's the will of Landrew (too obscure?), but it's still all over the place."
STTOS
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STTOS
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Nice! (Wasn't that tough, really.)
Since it doesn't have any real droid competition there's going to be mostly yes's. The power, screen, and battery life rocks but the wifi is meh, GPS sucks, and bluetooth has issues. I'm a little pissed at asus for pushing a product on us that was known to have problems. My wife is the main user of it and is happy but I did what I could to fix the short-falls. I'd never jump on another asus product until it was out for a while.
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Absolutely love mine, I would for sure buy it again, I like it better than my original tf101
Yes I would buy again. My Prime with Dock was mainly purchased for my Wife to use at Nursing Conferences which requires WiFi for Webpage access and the ability to have USB access for File Transfer. The Prime has worked GREAT for this with No Problems at all, my GPS does even work some. I can get GPS lock Outside(no inside GPS at all) in about 15-20 seconds and I can drive in Car and get "some" GPS. GPS no big deal to me though since I have a Garmin for Travel.
I don't know about everyone else, but my note is nearly a PC replacement at this point for me. I don't find much use in my laptop or desktop for anything besides the occasional file management, & playing PC games (rarely even that anymore). The quality of games are starting to rival consoles as well, especially with me now playing most of my mobile games with console controllers.
For me, since I'm near sighted, having a high resolution screen that I can hold up close is for me a much better option then looking at a TV monitor or PC monitor across the room for media viewing.
PLUS having the option of being able to put the thing in my pocket just makes it much more practical then taking any other device with me, including a tablet.
If needed I even have a Bluetooth keyboard that works great with the note as well as a USB dongle to hookup a mouse or any external drives to my note. Office emulation on mobile is also good enough for my needs, and web browsing IMO is much easier and more fluid on my note then both PC's I own.
I personally have little to no use for any other devices besides my phone at this point, and there is certainly nothing that even comes close to being more practical for my lifestyle. I Currently don't subscribe to cable or landline internet services, so being able to wirelessly tether my data connection from my phone to my other devices adds a whole new layer of practicality to the equation.
So for me, my phone has almost replaced not only my PC , but my TV and internet services as well. Am I the only one with this opinion?
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My phone has replaced:
My previous phone haha
My diary
My day planner
My gps/ navigator
My tv (netflix ftw)
My wireless hotspot (wifi tethering)
My computer, I just use it to play Diablo 3 now
And my mom (lol jk )
I also bought a bluetooth keyboard but I bought the 5.3 inch one and it is honestly, the most awkward decision I have ever made because it's too small for regular typing, but kinda too big for thumb typing although that's how I use it. It just makes me look like I'm a crazy gamer without a console.
I am also near sighted and had the HTC Inspire. We're like twins!
But yeah, I completely agree.
I'm near sighted as hell also, but i have a 30 inch monitor, and these little new fangled inventions called "eyeglasses" they're pretty new, dunno if you've heard of them yet, but something tells me they are going to be a huge hit with us blind folks lolz
But in all seriousness, it has replaced my browsing habits, that i do all in phone, including posting this.
But as for completely replacing my desktop, that'll never happen for me, i spent a relative lot of money on my rig and i play games on it a lot. And while mobile games are getting better... there is no comparison to the power/speed/freedom to modify the game itself to a full desktop.
Plus I can't develop for the phone on the phone, need my pc for that
Hmmmmmmm, you win this round, studacris.
That made me LOL.
Mine never will, 27" monitor with lots of of gaming
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Never a replacement.
Do far too much development work on a PC.
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Not a replacement but certainly enables a lot less use of my laptop.
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Nope, browser is not good enough and screen is too small. I am mid 50's with presbyopia, (old eyes) and without readers, cannot see even this big screen. Lack of support from our IT guys keep me from network access, so it is mostly still laptop, tablet, note, in that order. Network support for VPN keeps me from using it more than I would like to do.
Ph0n3D0rk said:
I also bought a bluetooth keyboard but I bought the 5.3 inch one and it is honestly, the most awkward decision I have ever made because it's too small for regular typing, but kinda too big for thumb typing although that's how I use it. It just makes me look like I'm a crazy gamer without a console.
I am also near sighted and had the HTC Inspire. We're like twins!
But yeah, I completely agree.
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lol I almost made the same mistake when I was shopping for a keyboard but soon realized how in-between those things are and opted for a full sizer that's still pretty portable.
But yeah were definitely twins lol
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I'm near sighted as hell also, but i have a 30 inch monitor, and these little new fangled inventions called "eyeglasses" they're pretty new, dunno if you've heard of them yet, but something tells me they are going to be a huge hit with us blind folks lolz
But in all seriousness, it has replaced my browsing habits, that i do all in phone, including posting this.
But as for completely replacing my desktop, that'll never happen for me, i spent a relative lot of money on my rig and i play games on it a lot. And while mobile games are getting better... there is no comparison to the power/speed/freedom to modify the game itself to a full desktop.
Plus I can't develop for the phone on the phone, need my pc for that
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Ha. I actually have a pretty serious gaming PC as well, however as my life becomes more and more on-the-go, it just isn't something I can spend much time with unfortunately. But since I'm still a gamer at heart, Google play games are certainly good enough when I'm mobile. I guess I too would probably never truly untie myself from my desktop, but my laptop on the other hand is completely useless to me now. Im even Considering selling it. That said, since I'm not really a coder or developer I could still in theory rid myself of the PC life and move completely mobile if necessary.
Glad to hear everyone's input.
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Really nowhere close. My phone is used as a planner, gps and for browsing the interwebz on the couch or at work. My pc is used for far too much for my phone to be even remotely capable of replacing it. The phone lacks processing power and real world application support.....plus i can't game on this thing.
-no, that's not a note in my pocket, i am deff happy to see you.
Being a glasses dependant, young 40 something , I don't really see myself being able to narrow down my "computer" use solely to my phone (SGS2). The headaches would get to me. That being said it certainly has worked in a pinch & I'd feel lost without it. What has happened for me, though, in the last few months, is that we moved & I hurt my back. So, although I'm getting around o.k., the last thing I want to do during my down time is sit at a desk and this is where my Sam Tab 10.1 comes in! It has certainly replaced my computer, we didn't even set my PC back up after the move and it's a great computer my husband custom built for me (I have concerns about it seriptiously becoming an organ donor though!) One thing I've found that I do miss is having two+ windows open simultaneously, re-enter my SGS2! I've caught my husband rolling his eyes at times but with these 2 devices and my wireless printer, I'm set. Besides, I always have his PC to do any rooting, etc. And funny, It turns out his PC is always very well maintained, updated, latest everything, etc., go figure. AND I find free tech support is always close at hand whenever I use his PC, he's like a nervous new mom trying very hard to trust some loser babysitter with his child.
Hope that helps, ms.samsprung
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not even close to replacing my pc and home theater entertainment center....
I mean watching movies on a 5 inch screen??????
don't sell it short, I'll tell you like i told every girl I've been with:
IT'S 5.3 INCHES!!
Never a replacement but a great mobile extension. Dual 21" monitors with HDMI out to a 55" flatscreen, 3.2ghz quad core booting from a solid state drive and 16gigs of ram will never be replaced by a phone. It is my server, media center, communication hub, entertainment system and gaming rig all in one. I built it 6 years ago and it gets upgraded piece by piece. Only thing that's the same is the power supply, optical drives and motherboard which I will switch next year when more devices start using USB 3.0
Mac can go to hell
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Never a replacement but a great mobile extension. Dual 21" monitors with HDMI out to a 55" flatscreen, 3.2ghz quad core booting from a solid state drive and 16gigs of ram will never be replaced by a phone. It is my server, media center, communication hub, entertainment system and gaming rig all in one. I built it 6 years ago and it gets upgraded piece by piece. Only thing that's the same is the power supply, optical drives and motherboard which I will switch next year when more devices start using USB 3.0
Mac can go to hell
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I liked your post, until yo said Mac can go to hell.....I hate apple in general, but after 30+ years of computing, Mac has been the best thing to happen to my household, as far as computers go..
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I liked your post, until yo said Mac can go to hell.....I hate apple in general, but after 30+ years of computing, Mac has been the best thing to happen to my household, as far as computers go..
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Macs are enemies of your freedom.
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Macs are enemies of your freedom.
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seriously, you really think a computer has anything to do with your personal freedom?
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seriously, you really think a computer has anything to do with your personal freedom?
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Yes it does. Windows is just as bad. Android is too. That's why I'm waiting for B2G so that I could have some type of freedom in my OS. Android is just the lesser of the evils, for now. Macs are up there though. There's a reason why I own a Leemote laptop.
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. AND I find free tech support is always close at hand whenever I use his PC, he's like a nervous new mom trying very hard to trust some loser babysitter with his child.
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He's just worried you'll find his Pr0n, lol.
Seriously, though, my Note hasn't replaced anything yet, but it has made me less inclined to get a Nexus tablet, if that counts.
I have been looking for a tablet for myself. Mostly, for note/lectures taking and reading. And also for remote connections to Linux machines, when I'm at the beach for example.
When I first saw it, I immediately understood that I had to have it. I bought Android version through Lenovo website. Windows just doesn't make sense to me on this device, it is not powerful enough, and it is a tablet! It is not supposed to replace a laptop. I don't find Windows apps ecosystem as good for mobile devices, as Android.
Waited about a week. Was very excited, when I finally got a package (yeah, I know, I'm a grown-up baby ). And, unfortunately, was disappointed right out of the box. The screen was defective (I even posted it here, lol): uneven color temperature to such level, that I cannot stand. But, I decided to give it a try anyways.
1. Hardware is impressive. Tablet looks fantastic. Sound is very good for the device of this size. I'm still blown away by a case itself. I liked the hinge, and how you can easily transform the tablet.
2. Halo keyboard looks futuristic. And it is OK for typing. I saw many reviews heavily criticizing it, but it is fine. Yes, you cannot type as fast, as on the mechanical keyboard, but it is still much faster than on the on-screen keyboard. Well, touchpad is bad and doesn't support multi-touch (though manual suggests it does), but I actually don't think one needs a touchpad on Android, so I don't complain here.
3. Drawing and note-taking on the Wacom surface is reliable and was a good experience for me. It is a little bit awkward in the beginning to physically write not directly on top of the area where image appears, but it is very easy to get used to. No buttons on the pen though.
4. Atom CPU is more than enough, device felt very responsive overall. However, I did notice it stuttered while charging, probably due to thermal throttling. But on battery I didn't notice any performance issues with the apps I used.
5. Now comes a weak part. Software.
I liked the taskbar, it is nice and useful, but overall, stock software feels like it is a beta version, and it is very basic (to say the least). Especially Lenovo apps (including note-taking). Well, not a real minus, since there are good apps in Google Store. But Lenovo Android customizations definitely need polishing.
Multi-window is almost useless, you cannot resize apps, but only have a smartphone-like size. And in windowed mode apps very often crash (I actually don't remember, when was the last time anything crashed on my Nexus 5, but I root-customized it...).
Some settings simply don't work: no matter what you do, it resets itself back to the default value. For some reason, I couldn't select my Google account as a backup account... Encryption is enabled by default, and you cannot disable it (it actually resulted in a factory reset, see below). Transition animations constantly turned on/off by themselves. And manual is simply inconsistent with the actual software.
I didn't find an easy way to switch Halo keyboard languages.
No customization for note-taking app: every time you switch to Wacom input mode, annoying Lenovo note-taking small window appears, and you have to close it in order to continue drawing in your app.
I had a nasty experience with an update. While updating everything seemed normal, but on the final boot I got a message "Encryption failed. Your tablet will be factory reset". And, yep, I got a completely fresh system, but it was updated. :good: And since there was no option to use my Google account for backup, I had to reinstall and reconfigure everything again. :silly:
Taking all that into account with my initial hardware problem, I just decided to return my YogaBook. I should say, it does feel sad a little bit as it is a very unique device. Honestly, I really wanted to love this device. But it definitely needs polishing, and if you're not a gadget enthusiast, you probably should wait for the next version.
disagree in all points
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disagree in all points
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Sure. Do you disagree on all points or only on negative ones?
I really wanted to love this device. Well, I'm returning mine anyways because of the screen issue. I went with my YogaBook to BestBuy and compared it to other tablets, and yep, even Samsung Tab A 10.1'' has a better screen than my tablet. This is definitely unacceptable.
I'm not 100% sure though, if I should just return it or actually do an exchange. But I'm returning, because in this case, if I change my mind, I can purchase a new one (hopefully, without screen defects) (effectively do an "exchange").
If you could be so kind, and point out to me how to fix these software glitches, I would really appreciate it.
couldnt agree more. I personally contacted lenovo in order to return the yoga book too. so disappointed. I think they should have installed Chromebook OS
BTW, I also had the problem with the upgrade and I had to reset everything...
Just curious . . . .
Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
I just got mine in uae and despite its flaws i really love this device because of the battery life, sound, display and the wacom stylus. Sure the halo keyboard needs some more work but otherwise it works as intended. Just waiting for someone to make a remix os for this.
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
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I pulled the trigger and am going to give it a try. The biggest selling point for me is being able to take notes on paper and pen and then have handwriting recognition do its magic.
Also, there is "Any Pen" support for writing directly on the screen. Though it is not perfect, it should be enough for me.
Admittedly, I am still not 100% convinced and I will let you know how it goes when I get my hands on it.
i picked one up at last friday, i wanted a light decent 10 inch android tablet for mostly browsing, evernote and messing on, the keyboard is a compromise but suits my needs, if im going to do a large amount of typing ill do it on my desktop pc, I personally really like it overall but I just hope they bring Nougat to it so we can atleast have the 2 window option, other than that i lowered the dpi because it was far too high for me, and hopefully we get root soon so i can force chrome to always display desktop sites, as mobile sites on a 10 inch tablet is stupid.
oh i also wish you could scroll easily with the trackpad but i guess thats an Android limitation.
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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I ůove this device so much but i must totaly agree that Lenovo should agree with jide and Remix OS should be preinstalled as the lenovo modified android realy sucks and is inmature... BTW i am intersted in same Did anyone?
I love it, you have to get used to it
Got mine few days ago.
I love it.
It takes some adjusting of workflows, but it is new, it is different, it is astonishing! Those are the reasons I bought it!.
HINGE IS MIND BLOWING!!!
Coming from range of tablets (Samsung 7" once upon a time, 10.1 Samsung, Xperia tablet z...) and many phones from different manufacturers, keeping just glass/glass as lite motiv (iPhone 4,xperia z1, S6 edge, S7 edge) I confirm it is different!
Missing lot of Samsung staf, missing lot of IOS stuff, but who cares. Playstore can provide all needed apps for my life/work stile.
It is little bit havy, looking at you keybd, but it has a keybd. For others I had to buy separate one. Halo is not a PC (Mak) keybd, but tablet is not a PC nor Mak. This just works It would be nice to change halo keybd (what you can see) but I can live with German layout I've got, just installed swift and off we go!
The only thing that is a real problem is waterproofing! I was so happy reading in a hot bath! When Experia started leaking it really hurts!
If someone knows about waterproof light case for yoga, please, pretty please let me know!
Everything else will solve it self out, root, android 7.... Just have some patience. XDA always brought a solution. For doubtful - check HTC HD forums...I forgot about my 2 phones, but development is still kicking!
Just that waterproofing IP 68 anybody?
P.S. You can swipe with mousepad, in android, just not 2 finger like manual is promissing.
I got mine today and I love it, but there are things (mostly software) that are bafflingly annoying... I got this device with the idea I could utilize Netflix's offline downloading feature only to find out it's not compatible... wtf... fail...
I got mine about three weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. I "forgot" my work laptop in my office before Xmas and I was able to survive with my Yogabook (LTE version) so far. Android MS Office apps work sufficiently well for me. VPN and Citrix Terminal Client do their job. I only use my apps in full window mode because the task bar does the job for me. Yes, it's very basic but ok for me.
I had a lot of stability issues in the beginning. I figured out that most of the apps were installed on the 128 GB sd card by default. After moving all (no exceptions) apps to internal storage, there were no crashes anymore. I already used this solution for another Android device with lots of crashes.
It took a while to get used to the keyboard but it is possible to do 10 finger typing at medium speed after some training. I just had to switch off the word completion feature because it began to drive me crazy.
After watching some Youtube videos from an artist who uses his Yogabook as a professional drawing device, I even became motivated to try it out myself. Before I just used the pen to take some notes in Evernote. It's actually quite some fun to use it for drawing and I had to buy the add-on stuff of the ArtFlow app.
Yes, it's annoying that it is not possible to download stuff to the tablet via the Netflix app. Amazon, Spotify, and Maxdome download content works well, however, in offline mode. The HDMI output to an HD TV or a projector looks good, too. Both for video streaming and Powerpoint presentations.
In summary, I'm quite happy with it ... even as an unplanned replacement for my work laptop ...
the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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I used so far without issues: ArtFlow and ArtRage for Drawing, Evernote and Lenovo Note Taker for handwritten notes, Ez PDF for annotating pdf documents.
For my purposes, the pen is very accurate and responsive. In ArtFlow the pen pressure dependent line thickness and color intensity work very well.
Small addition. It survived nasti drop from table height in the office, rough terrain (PC, table legs, chair legs).
Ugly dent in metal and some scratches. That is a drawback of metal build! Glass glass will shater or survive without evidence.
BUT IT WORKS no problem at all!
Stupid question
How to @ on the Halo keyboard?
Shift + @