I'm not new to android but I am new to developing. I have no experience at all. I have been reading different websites on a good way to start and each are very different. My goal is to be able to develop aosp roms. Apps is my secondary goal. I want to be able to develop/code from the source. Kitchens are not my preference. I'm hoping on a long shot for a Rom developer to teach me the ropes. From beginning to end sort of thing. We are a community here, so I'm hoping we can pass on knowledge to others who are willing (like me). Anybody willing to take me under their wings?
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Forgot to mention that I have an EVO 4G.
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I know little to nothing about compiling AOSP, but I do know you need Linux (Ubuntu) and the Android source code. However, rather than branching out yet again, why don't you consider contributing to the cyanogen mod project instead? It's already rather refined but always accepts creative new ideas.
If you need help with app development, give me a pm. I do some myself at www.gundersoft.com
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I know little to nothing about compiling AOSP, but I do know you need Linux (Ubuntu) and the Android source code. However, rather than branching out yet again, why don't you consider contributing to the cyanogen mod project instead? It's already rather refined but always accepts creative new ideas.
If you need help with app development, give me a pm. I do some myself at www.gundersoft.com
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Yeah I don't have a Linux OS yet. I'll take your offer on app development.
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Yeah I don't have a Linux OS yet. I'll take your offer on app development.
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Linux is free, you can either set up a VM or dual boot w/ windows. Linux is the key that will open the door for ya.
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Linux is free, you can either set up a VM or dual boot w/ windows. Linux is the key that will open the door for ya.
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I have an idea on doing it in vm but how do you dual boot it?
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Download wubi .. .sets up everything automatically for you http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
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Download wubi .. .sets up everything automatically for you http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
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Awesome thanks for the help.
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This is probably old news but I just recently saw this on the Ubuntu website. Looks pretty freaking sweet! Still in development tho.
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There's actually a phone made by Fujitsu that's similar in that it can be booted into the full desktop windows 7 32 bit by the switch of a button. The downside I see to it is that when you are running it the phones radio is turned off so you can't receive calls or texts also the phone UI is some proprietary Fujitsu software. Needless to say it looks pretty lame compared to Android but nevertheless it's still pretty awesome looking. Here's a few links if you guy's wanna check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XckwJJPTyo&feature=related
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOCOMO-FUJI...ultDomain_0&hash=item35bc0e465e#ht_3766wt_948
Yes, saw that too! Would be a great experience!
Can you share link to where you read it, I want to check it out..
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Can you share link to where you read it, I want to check it out..
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Sure!
http://igify.com/?q=ubuntu+android
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Would like to point out while Ubuntu are working on it, there are already a range of projects to get it running on your device (see my sig) my project is on of the more active projects, really the only big thing missing that they have working is native graphics (right now my project uses a vnc server within ubuntu to view gui within android).
Mine works on a whole host of devices (not just dual core like ubuntu project) and you can also install debian or backtrack if you wish.
We are in the process of adding more options to the app and making it far more user friendly (Although it is already pretty fool proof)
I love ubuntu on my pc. I would love it on my phone.
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Sure!
http://igify.com/?q=ubuntu+android
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Funny..
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looks sweet,waiting to be deployed
Im excited for the fact you can take you computer with you. simply dock it them WALLA you get a working desktop environment. i have reservations on it using Google docs though, i tried, but never can really use Google docs the way i use my other office programs, just doesn't have the flexibility.
But im excited! I've alread click their link on their page.
Also, with the advent of ICS tgeb JB they need to kick it into gear or how else they going to keep up with the upgrades?
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If you can virtualize another distribution within it, you basically have Linux within Linux within Linux.
Linception.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices
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http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
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Ya, Ubuntu is awesome. It is really good if you want to make a music/movie server for you HTPC
Saw this a few days ago and I'm astonished. Hope someone will get closer look at this. Then I'll change my Vision to something with 2cores immediately
Yeah, but i think it for high-end device..
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i been using ubuntu on my laptop.. great OS must say but coming to a phone? wow
ItS been on the android market. As you probably already know have like 6free gigs.
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i would like to start developing apps for android in the near future but im not sure what software i need and what language i have to learn to get started if anyone can help me with my inquiry it would be awesome im going to be working on Windows 7 any insight and information will be greatly appreciated
thanks
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I'm on a phone now but you can get find the "How to build an android app" 4 part series on XDA. Do a search and it should turn up.
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much appreciated kind sir, i have a really cool idea not totally original but i'll see where it goes
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Are you familiar with Java programming? You'll need Java development kit installed on your PC. I'm not sure if Eclipse IDE runs well on a window machine, but if you're familiar with Linux you can run Eclipse IDE on Ubuntu. You also will need Android SDK. This lets you write raw code and helps you get it working in the Android environment. There's more stuff, but that can be found at the thread referenced above or by Google'ing!
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I am only familiar with some of the things mentioned from researching but I wasn't sure what was going to lead me to the right avenue, steady now I know what to download and focus more attention on now it's time to stick my head in a book as well as this forum any other information would be awesome thanks
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Google, along with XDA will be your best resources. XDA probably more so, because you ask for help and members will do their best to answer you, as opposed to just reading links online that may be written in "Greek" as far as being understandable and easy to digest, with no real availability to get quick, useful, insightful info with.
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thanks man your awesome much appreciated!
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Also, I was at Barnes & Noble (not sure where you're from) bookstore and there's a section just for Android software development there. Also wouldn't hurt to look into the "Android Cookbook" as a resource literature. If you don't have access to a large bookstore such as B&N, the Android Cookbook website is here:
http://androidcookbook.com/home.seam
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Roger that, there is a b&n right next to my school so inbetween classes I'll be there, also is it possible to run Linux on my PC while I still have windows 7?
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Roger that, there is a b&n right next to my school so inbetween classes I'll be there, also is it possible to run Linux on my PC while I still have windows 7?
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Absolutely! I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 as well as Win7 on my laptop. Ubuntu is free to download:
http://www.ubuntu.com/download
Also download the Wubi package installer:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...p528Bg&usg=AFQjCNFFmxvY4HkumfqYoA0Nv24RfRPrrA
After downloading both, run the Wubi installer and it will load Ubuntu on your PC. You'll get the option upon restart as to which OS to boot -either Ubuntu or Windows.
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Oh that is just amazing! Once I get my replacement A/C adapter for my g73 laptop ima get cracking, in your opinion what do you think is easier to work on, custom roms/kernels or apps?
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Depends on the experience with the programs needed to do each, I suppose. For starting out you might stick with building .apks or work some theming on an existing rom build, just to get familiar with things.
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That sounds like a plan I'm a student at an art institute so this can be alot of fun now I have some resources to help me out
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Good deal, good luck, and have fun!
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With the open source webOS now out, is it.possible to get it in our phones?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...n-an-evo-3d-open-sourcing-effort-may-pay-off/
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I know there is a guy thats been working on it. I think the way he did it was to run a webos version of ubuntu. its in the webos community boards
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I know there is a guy thats been working on it. I think the way he did it was to run a webos version of ubuntu. its in the webos community boards
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on this site?
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...-openwebos-linuxonandroid-htc-evo-4g-lte.html
This would be so dope. I've been a long time webOS fan and it'd be sick to be able to run it on a phone that actually works. Would love to see some developers working on this
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I know it's early and hard to get too much accomplished with the uniqueness of our device not to mention the s-on issue.
But I'm just curious if anyone has heard any rumor or knows anything about anyone working on a MIUI port.. I'm not expecting much yet as we don't even have any aosp goodness yet. But I thought I'd get the conversation started.
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I think we need aosp before we can even think about miui.
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I think we need aosp before we can even think about miui.
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I agree, you are right. Just wondering if any MIUI dev's have the device or are thinking about working on it.
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I think we need aosp before we can even think about miui.
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miui can be sense based (though until theres an official jellybean sense build, its tough to make your own patch rom)
i took a swing at getting miui launcher working on our stock build but kinda gave up when something that should have worked right...didnt
i may revisit it after christmas, idk
working on a sense base but theres alot of issues lol
also working on a asop base but i have talked to a few who claim the kernel will never let it boot so im still optimistic about it working but full functional no tell at this point
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sorry for bringing up a old thread figured i keep posted
I tried to port it off of the cm10 base but I just got a error 7 in recovery before it would even begin to flash the Rom... Granted my porting was just copying most of the stuff off of a one xl and I just followed a basic tutorialon how to port so it really did not surprise me when it did not boot... Curse my noob knowledge of deving
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I can help u on that if u wanna band together your probe starts with updater script that's error 7 I'll upload mine to morrow and can work off that
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Once we gett s full or mostly working cm10/10.1 I will attempt to port.
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I can help u on that if u wanna band together your probe starts with updater script that's error 7 I'll upload mine to morrow and can work off that
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I would love to but I probably won't be able to mess with it for another week or so... I will see if I still have that build on my computer somewhere.
And thanks Mustafa. I guess we will see where this goes! Miui is going to look beautiful on this phone
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Seems it will be mostly smali mods getting everything sized for 1080 I got a lot already port having boot issues now in thinking my updater needs rewriting I have a few posts I'm studying but I got something going and it's based on cm10 and I have a sense version but havnt don't much with it
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I have some Photoshop experience and am definitely willing to help you out whether it be resizing things and what not and I'm definitely willing to learn
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most of the imaging will be done in framework-res.apk i believe as im teaching myself how to port to non supported devices so its and awesome adventure
also did you set all of your permissions correct? move all correct files over?and as far as updater-script i will try and put my build on github tonight but as im also thinking of changing to arch linux over ubuntu as im done with the non updating they issue so late lol.
and when ubuntu os is ready you willing to help?
Lol I think I did I really am a noob at linux and developing. I can follow a tutorial real well (which I did with the first attempt at porting but you saw how far I got) I just want to be fully clear with you my experiencecause I don't want you to expect you have a professional working with you. But anyway I think I did. I copied over the permissions from the port rom folder to the base roms folder but I might have missed a few...
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most of the imaging will be done in framework-res.apk i believe as im teaching myself how to port to non supported devices so its and awesome adventure
also did you set all of your permissions correct? move all correct files over?and as far as updater-script i will try and put my build on github tonight but as im also thinking of changing to arch linux over ubuntu as im done with the non updating they issue so late lol.
and when ubuntu os is ready you willing to help?
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arch can be a bit of a task... you gotta set up everything in CLI... i managed to get a GUI up and working... but im stuck at installing the correct video drivers... lol i got vesa working but i need amd/ati drivers also arch uses pacman not apt-get... idk how well arch is with cooking roms and whatnot... idk anybody who uses it to cook
Ok I am about 75 percent done with re building a port I can work with. It should be done tonight... We will see if it boots... I was trying to find a device that had miui that was more similar (nexus 4) but even they do not have a port on it yet... Is miui losing its luster?
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Ok I am about 75 percent done with re building a port I can work with. It should be done tonight... We will see if it boots... I was trying to find a device that had miui that was more similar (nexus 4) but even they do not have a port on it yet... Is miui losing its luster?
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it seems to have a bit from what ive seen
miui.us is really slowed down since many device maintainers (i was one on the inc2) have moved on to other stuff and the main site guys are working on chameleon os
i cant speak for miui android and other sites, but i dont see as much press or activity going on for miui in general as in prior years / versions
Im Porting it form the One X version... If anyone thinks there will be any problems with that please tell me now lol before i put more time into it
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Im Porting it form the One X version... If anyone thinks there will be any problems with that please tell me now lol before i put more time into it
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Would be a lot of graphical differences, as well as hardware changes. Looking at the same problem cm is facing.
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Would be a lot of graphical differences, as well as hardware changes. Looking at the same problem cm is facing.
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I am using CM as the base so until the audio gets fixed that will automatically be broken out of the box... im hoping i dont run into more problems then just that though... I am using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008 (or the newer version of it) so we will see if it even works tonight.
Well negative on getting it to boot... It does not even flash... Shoot man this updater.script is complicated stuff
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Can our photon handle ubuntu touch
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Should be able
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I wish that our great dev will someday port it
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I do remember seeing that you can download it off Google play
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I do remember seeing that you can download it off Google play
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That is a whole nother ballgame, ubuntu touch is a pain. Lol
I've given up on working on it for now, as i really need my phone to be working 110% all the time, so im back to stock....with a handful of modifications ofc.
Using th3bills cm10.1 i was trying to just port it over without having to.build like they say in the porting guide, and no luck outside of a loop. User error really. Its best left to the trusted devs, etc round here.
Our phones can handle it great, and then some, BUT, as with anything over the stock gb, without drivers things dont work as they should. Ubuntu touch is really frikkin awesome to look st, but even if someone ports it, it is only a preview an 90% of the features wont work or are just placeholders. Id let it sit a while, not worth a damn atm. But it does give you a taste of the ui. Which, is tough getting used to as it is very gesture oriented as apposed to click here scroll here that we do on android.
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Thanks for share sir .. i though anyone haven't try it yet .. i follow the ubuntu touch forum every day hope that some of our great dev will port it. But i still wait it until happen.. i hope
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If I can find some free time in my super-busy college schedule, I'd like to try my hand at porting it for us. Not just because it would be awesome to have it, but because I'd like to eventually do some app development for it (and it looks like a badass OS for a phone).
Can I put Ubuntu on my Photon even with 2.3.5?
I think you have to unlock the bootloader first.
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Can I put Ubuntu on my Photon even with 2.3.5?
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Unfortunately not. Ubuntu requires it to be unlocked. (ubuntu ATM is highly reliant on cm10 still, so if you can't run cm10,which 2.3.5 can't)
Your stuck between a rock and a hard place
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What is the point? We need a decent kernel that can actually support our phone. Atrix 4G succeeded, and all development has halted here. This phone seems pretty much done. Very disappointing.