Why do people say that it is bad to charge your phone overnight? Should I do that for E3D?
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Batteries will diminish no matter what you do. Some say by doing that you'll increase the longevity of the battery. But really, it doesn't matter anymore.
So plug away brother. I leave mine plugged when I'm asleep.
prashy said:
Why do people say that it is bad to charge your phone overnight? Should I do that for E3D?
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When your battery is full, it should optimally be taken off of the charger.
It's not the overnight part that matters, it's the fact that it probably sits on the charger for hours after it's been fully charged.
Try google. Enter 'tips for cellphone battery health' or something to that effect. Did this really need to be a post?
prashy said:
Why do people say that it is bad to charge your phone overnight? Should I do that for E3D?
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Don't pay anyone's charging tips any attention.
I have been charging my phones overnight for years and if anything, my battery health has remained roughly the same. I have never had to replace a battery for diminished health and/or inability to hold a charge.
I keep mine charged or charging whenever possible. This has always been my method and it has worked out great.
freeza said:
Don't pay anyone's charging tips any attention.
I have been charging my phones overnight for years and if anything, my battery health has remained roughly the same. I have never had to replace a battery for diminished health and/or inability to hold a charge.
I keep mine charged or charging whenever possible. This has always been my method and it has worked out great.
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Same here, as do all other members of my household.
KB112 said:
Same here, as do all other members of my household.
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Lol I let mine die dead and give it a full charge from time to time... Just like my laptop I don't like to leave it on the charger all day and all night
Never hurts anything...
Never hurts to do in a bluemoon .....
Sean is here. Yes this is a Q&A section. I had a question. So obviously this needed a post. So please don't undermine my post with a crude comment.
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Sean is here. Yes this is a Q&A section. I had a question. So obviously this needed a post. So please don't undermine my post with a crude comment.
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I was saying I do let mine die all the way it is healthy on the battery to do so lol.. I never have battery life issues....
But I do believe in letting your phone die and charge over night if your not using it from time to time ...
i also charge overnight, and have never seen a problem.
but charging overnight with sbc.... i wouldn't reccommend that (not that we have it on the 3d). when i got my 3d, i charged my og evo for like 3 days straight before taking it off the charger. a month later i take it out of a drawer to find the back cover off and a battery that is so swolen it'll no longer fit.
so yeah be careful those stories of explosions and stuff r probs true
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i also charge overnight, and have never seen a problem.
but charging overnight with sbc.... i wouldn't reccommend that (not that we have it on the 3d). when i got my 3d, i charged my og evo for like 3 days straight before taking it off the charger. a month later i take it out of a drawer to find the back cover off and a battery that is so swolen it'll no longer fit.
so yeah be careful those stories of explosions and stuff r probs true
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Lol I agree SBC was a no no for a all nighter
But I do charge over night if it is dead dead
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Anyone know if the charging on the 3D will be like the 4G where when you take it off the charger it drops immediately? Would be nice to see if HTC fixes this to where it's something like a trickle charge.
I also wonder if the chargers (car and wall) from the orginal evo 4g will work with the evo 3d.
There will be no trickle charge because it wears down a battery faster. what they need is two charging circuits. On for charging, and one to run the phone on after the battery is charged
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aimbdd said:
There will be no trickle charge because it wears down a battery faster. what they need is two charging circuits. On for charging, and one to run the phone on after the battery is charged
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I agree. There has been some reports on here by people running the trickle charge kernel that have seen their battery burn up or explode. I am sure people will still develop this kernel for the 3D though.
fmedina2 said:
I agree. There has been some reports on here by people running the trickle charge kernel that have seen their battery burn up or explode. I am sure people will still develop this kernel for the 3D though.
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6 reports out of thousands of people using SBC kernels. And the problem was pretty definitively traced down to cheap Chinese knock off batteries. I never saw a report, or even heard of a report, where someone using a decent battery ever had any kind of problem.
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dmaul3300 said:
I also wonder if the chargers (car and wall) from the orginal evo 4g will work with the evo 3d.
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I would assume any USB charger would work. They're not even really "chargers", they're just power sources. The phone has it's own internal charging circuitry.
There will be no need for SBC kernels for the 3d. The reason they were created was to fix a charging problem that was in the n1, incredible and Evo only. HTC has fixed the bug in the most recent phone lineup. Don't worry SBC haters and lovers, it wont be needed
dmaul3300 said:
I also wonder if the chargers (car and wall) from the orginal evo 4g will work with the evo 3d.
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If it uses micro-USB (like it should) then of course they would.
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NewZJ said:
There will be no need for SBC kernels for the 3d. The reason they were created was to fix a charging problem that was in the n1, incredible and Evo only. HTC has fixed the bug in the most recent phone lineup. Don't worry SBC haters and lovers, it wont be needed
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If this is true, then that is great news!
Charging Problems
Hey guys, pretty new to this but here's the story;
My Evo 3D has been rooted and now has the latest version of leedroid (all done by my cousin) but now I'm having issues with the Charging.
I leave the phone to charge overnight but when i wake up, the light is green but the battery is only around 70-80%, I then have to leave it to charge until 100% and then unplug.. is this a software or hardware issue? it seems it stops charging when reached 100% but then doesnt remain active.
I've had a look around the forums but can't find any fixes.. please help!
try a different kernal or flash another rom
Will Do, Thanks
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Hey guys, pretty new to this but here's the story;
My Evo 3D has been rooted and now has the latest version of leedroid (all done by my cousin) but now I'm having issues with the Charging.
I leave the phone to charge overnight but when i wake up, the light is green but the battery is only around 70-80%, I then have to leave it to charge until 100% and then unplug.. is this a software or hardware issue? it seems it stops charging when reached 100% but then doesnt remain active.
I've had a look around the forums but can't find any fixes.. please help!
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Isn't that a little bit sad?
Since the support for this phone is realy crap.
I have the issue where the bat does not charge to 100%.
I have to remove the cable when it hits the green LED (99% full) and reconnect it again (LED turns red) to get to 100% finally.
When I contact HTC they tell me to send it for repair.
Buit this is obviously a software issue, not a hardfware issue.
An update would fix it easily.
My GF has same issue, and I swapped tyhe phone at the store in the first week because of this. New phjone exactly same problem.
Help?
You need to see a number to know your
phone is charged 100% overnight?
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Get an iphone and GTFO!
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Cool story
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Sover3igN said:
Isn't that a little bit sad?
Since the support for this phone is realy crap.
I have the issue where the bat does not charge to 100%.
I have to remove the cable when it hits the green LED (99% full) and reconnect it again (LED turns red) to get to 100% finally.
When I contact HTC they tell me to send it for repair.
Buit this is obviously a software issue, not a hardfware issue.
An update would fix it easily.
My GF has same issue, and I swapped tyhe phone at the store in the first week because of this. New phjone exactly same problem.
Help?
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Normal behavior. And if this is the only issue you are having (not really an issue) you are doing pretty well. The phone has a built in overcharge protection (as all phones do) that will charge the phone to 100% or just under then let it discharge to 90-95% and then charge again to 100%. There are SBC kernels for other phones that will change this effect by charging to 100% and then trickle charge it to keep it at 100%, but none made for the EVO3D because it really doesn't seem like a huge deal. And if you are really sending phones back over 1%, you are one picky dude.
I think your thread title is wrong. There are some great fully functional ROMs out there.
The battery will fluctuate from 95%-100% while on the charger. Think it's an HTC issue, or maybe Android. This isn't something to get all pissed off about IMO, maybe I am missing something though.
yep.. is 100% normal.
i'm running on a shawn3d 1.4 rom, with a akernel v10.07, have a battery life of over 2 days, with bluetooth and wifi on, medium use..
everything but I mean everything works..
so euhm... whats the problem again???
OP,
Why you butt hurt?
Just kidding. These issues are all normal for android phones. I have seen these issues on the Heroc, OG Evo, Samsung Epic and now Evo 3D.
It is not that I am picky.
You must agree that it is quite anoying if you sleep for 8 hours while charging, and you then see a green LED, but then to see 99%.
When you for instance have the alarmclock ringning, you drain 2 or 3%.
It is not normal behaviour I think. PLus bat-life was 2 days in the first 2 weeks, now I barely last a day.
Any thoughts?
Edit...: 3 HTC phones before NO problem at all
Sover3igN said:
Isn't that a little bit sad?
Since the support for this phone is realy crap.
I have the issue where the bat does not charge to 100%.
I have to remove the cable when it hits the green LED (99% full) and reconnect it again (LED turns red) to get to 100% finally.
When I contact HTC they tell me to send it for repair.
Buit this is obviously a software issue, not a hardfware issue.
An update would fix it easily.
My GF has same issue, and I swapped tyhe phone at the store in the first week because of this. New phjone exactly same problem.
Help?
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There is no such type of issue on my evo 3d. I've tried around 15 different ROMs and all were functioning as they should.
The issue you have posted is not an issue. If you see green LED and numbers below 100% then your phone went to 100% before but you havent noticed that. I advise you to keep your eyes on the battery icon when the LED is red and % are near 98-99. You will notice it goes to 100% and red LED turns green. Then the numbers will go down as your battery discharges.
It is an overcharge protection made by the manufacturer.
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It is not that I am picky.
You must agree that it is quite anoying if you sleep for 8 hours while charging, and you then see a green LED, but then to see 99%.
When you for instance have the alarmclock ringning, you drain 2 or 3%.
It is not normal behaviour I think. PLus bat-life was 2 days in the first 2 weeks, now I barely last a day.
Any thoughts?
Edit...: 3 HTC phones before NO problem at all
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What ROM are you on? Try a custom ROM for better battery life. I'm using ViperROM and plenty of people provide screen shots in that thread of their own findings (e.g. ridiculously long battery life).
Sover3igN said:
Isn't that a little bit sad?
Since the support for this phone is realy crap.
I have the issue where the bat does not charge to 100%.
I have to remove the cable when it hits the green LED (99% full) and reconnect it again (LED turns red) to get to 100% finally.
When I contact HTC they tell me to send it for repair.
Buit this is obviously a software issue, not a hardfware issue.
An update would fix it easily.
My GF has same issue, and I swapped tyhe phone at the store in the first week because of this. New phjone exactly same problem.
Help?
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You want your battery percentage to stay at 100 when you charge it? Get rid of your 3d, get an evo 4g, put a froyo ROM on it and use a sbc kernel. Other than that, quit *****ing. Like others have said its a built in over charge protection from HTC. Some may argue if its actually needed because i used an sbc kernel on my old evo ever since it was available and never had a problem with my battery. But is like 3-4% really that big of a deal?
Saying that there are no fully functioning roms is a bit rude imo, there are tons. I use warm 2.3 and it has zero problems.
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I have no problem or whatsoever
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Seriously.. some of you gents are out of line.
He's asked a question, he thinks it's wrong, you don't because you think you know better. No need to go ASBO on him, you could have been polite about it.
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Sover3igN said:
Isn't that a little bit sad?
Since the support for this phone is realy crap.
I have the issue where the bat does not charge to 100%.
I have to remove the cable when it hits the green LED (99% full) and reconnect it again (LED turns red) to get to 100% finally.
When I contact HTC they tell me to send it for repair.
Buit this is obviously a software issue, not a hardfware issue.
An update would fix it easily.
My GF has same issue, and I swapped tyhe phone at the store in the first week because of this. New phjone exactly same problem.
Help?
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It's not a issue, it's supposed to be that way. It has a "maintain" function once it reaches 100, it will let itself drain back to 95, the charge back to 100, then back down, etc.. It's to maintain the battery correctly .
Dumbass with a smartphone.
It's not an issue you idiot. It's so your battery doesn't die for good after a short amount if time. They're not supposed to be fully charged like that. Educate yourself instead of looking like a fool.
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If a lithium battery were brought to 100% and the charger kept charging it to keep it at 100%, you would have far worse issues than a 5% fluctuation, you would likely have a house that has burned down. Lithium batteries are very picky about their voltage, too much and they go into a runaway exothermic condition and become fireballs, too little and they go into a runaway exothermic condition and become fireballs.
Check out youtube videos about damaged or overcharged lithium batteries.
Honestly, this is a problem with all Android phones, I've gone from the EVO 4g to the E3D and I've had the same issue, though I wouldn't exactly call it a "problem"...
What I do when I wake is unplug my phone, check my email/social networks on it for a few minutes, let the battery drain a few % points, then plug it back up while I shower. It sounds weird, but unplugging and re-plugging really helps, as my battery then stays at 100/99% for at least an hour after I leave my house before beginning to drain.
I've noticed that if I don't do this, the battery drains a lot faster than it would if I had...
Hope this helps
yea it is eternity 130
I normally turn it completely off at night to charge it. Is this good practice or should it be left on while charging? I believe turning it off will extended the battery life do you believe this? Also I have noticed when I got to battery it says the phone has been on and off the charger for 2 days which it hasn't and I believe its doing this because I turn it off while charging is this correct?
SENT FROM MY EVO 4G LTE!!!
Do you have fastboot on ?
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I never turn my phone off unless I know it's going to be off for extended periods (more than 24 hours). I plug it in every night or when it gets low. This was for my OG Evo, mind you, but same difference.
That said, here's some reading on the subject.
That said, I've gone against that article by keeping my phone on charger all night just about every night, and by discharging it below 20% about half the time. Still, my Evo battery still lasts me all day with my personal usage, I have never noticed a decline in the two years I've been using it. I'm a light-to-moderate user, and it's worked for me.
I never power my phone off. It's on 24/7 other than rebooting for installing roms
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I see no point at all to turn off any phone at night. God forbid there's a family emergency or something, I need to be reachable.
what is this "off" you speak of?
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Do you have fastboot on ?
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Yes fasrboot is one. Is this affecting my battery stats?
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I leave mine on 24/7... Especially since I use it a lot for reminders and alarms.
I leave mine on 24/7, but I make sure to not sleep in the same room as it.
xbmoyx said:
Yes fasrboot is one. Is this affecting my battery stats?
SENT FROM MY EVO 4G LTE!!!
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I believe if your fastboot is on, then you're not really shutting off your phone. Since it's always in the "ready to go" mode.
Btw, I keep mine on 24 hrs. I charge with when I need to (usually towards the evening of the day). But I restart whenever I flash a new rom.
mine is on 24/7
I use my Nexus S as my alarm clock so I leave it on. I left my EVO Shift on all night but didn't use that as an alarm. I never have had battery issues but don't really keep my phones long enough to know for sure. I really kind of think they were designed to be left on all the time.
I leave mine on 24/7. I do not have a land line and only have the cell phone, so my wife and I just leave ours on just incase there is an emergency people can get a hold of us. Which has happened several times.....people with DUI's, getting picked up by the fuzz. Can't get a ride from the bar, births.........
xbmoyx said:
I normally turn it completely off at night to charge it. Is this good practice or should it be left on while charging? I believe turning it off will extended the battery life do you believe this? Also I have noticed when I got to battery it says the phone has been on and off the charger for 2 days which it hasn't and I believe its doing this because I turn it off while charging is this correct?
SENT FROM MY EVO 4G LTE!!!
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Yeah I see no point in turning it off really. Like others have said I dont like the idea of not being reachable in case of an emergency....
arozer said:
I believe if your fastboot is on, then you're not really shutting off your phone. Since it's always in the "ready to go" mode.
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That might explain why some of us have been unboxing phones with zero battery charge. Mine had to be charged to even power on when I bought it and tried to activate it. If they're packaged in "sleep" mode at the factory, they'll run down over time. Or am I wrong? Is it more of a battery-less "hibernate" mode?
I usually leave mine on 24/7, letting it charge overnight. I keep it charged at work too so don't really need any extra batteries or such. If I need it to last awhile I just turn off data or turn it off completely.
Granted, every couples weeks I do usually re-boot just to clear everything.
On all the time. Check out audio guru in the play store, has a volume schedule for all the different sounds, ringtones, sms notification, alerts, phone volume, media etc.
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aliwho said:
I leave mine on 24/7, but I make sure to not sleep in the same room as it.
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Weird. I sleep with my phone in bed with me, seriously.
Mine is on 24/7
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emac11 said:
Weird. I sleep with my phone in bed with me, seriously.
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Same here, my phone is my alarm clock. I only left my evo dead when I was on vacation and didn't want anyone disturbing me.
Hey guys, if you haven't guessed, I have an Evo 3D (Evo V 4G, details, details) and I've always used the extended battery from Zlaza. That worked wonderfully. Now the case for it broke and I have to get a new case or fix it. So I'm stuck on stock battery.
EDIT: For the record, I did use the regular battery for roughly two and a half weeks before jumping onboard the extended battery ship.
The Problem:
Stock battery (when I used it) never drained this rapidly. 30 Percent in two hours. I'm not streaming audio, listening to videos checking email or even browsing the web, I'm just listening to music on Poweramp. Occasionally I checked into XDA with it.
I'm on Harmonia (the, what stock should've been ROM for Virgin Mobile) using Buttered Toast Kernel clocked at stock using conservative governor. Any ideas why this might be happening? Is this normal? Have I been sucked out of the realm of normal due to having an ultra large 3460mAh battery? Keep in mind I have wiped battery stats and let it die (really easy now) then charged it up again before using it.
Any explanation would be great.
More in depth stats.
https://www.box.com/s/uz9j4brraeep88mxth9m
And this one was while I was flashing a ROM and jumping in and out of recovery earlier today...
https://www.box.com/s/xbv5cmil152gm78o57d1
A few thoughts:
1. Maybe the battery has gone bad (or a little bad) since you had it unused in the drawer for so long.
2. I lose quite a bit of battery every reboot.
3. I only get about 3 or so hours of screen on time when using stock battery
That's absolutely mind blowing. Nonetheless, thank you.
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thebeastglasser said:
That's absolutely mind blowing. Nonetheless, thank you.
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Try going into recovery and wiping battery stats.
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30% drain while listening to music is not out of the ordinary.
You could try changing your kernel and undervolting. Might help out but be sure to know what you are doing.
Also battery may be bad.
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Try going into recovery and wiping battery stats.
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Damn it, I meant to put that into my OP, yeah I did that.
malvarez92 said:
You could try changing your kernel and undervolting. Might help out but be sure to know what you are doing.
Also battery may be bad.
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And undervolting is always an option, I figured using stock clock and conservative governor (along with set CPU profiles) would be enough. I may consider doing that, thanks.
Im assuming its your battery. On my evo battery life fluctuates alot. If i use it alot, i tend to get about 6-7 hours daily. If i hardly use it, it can go above 1 day. Right now im at a day and 12 hours. lol but have hardly used it
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I also think maybe you need to charge and let it discharge a couple of times since you havnt used it in a while. This should cycle it and should help the battery retain some more charge.
Hmm, that's something else that I didn't consider. I figured it would be fine because I'd used it in the past... Recalibration it is then.
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EDIT: By the way, what ROM?
Viper 3D r192 but the newest r202 has gps issues. i have also changed my kernel to (Bacillus anthracis) i dont think im allowed to say the actual name
Hahaha, thanks. I'll have to try it out.
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Just an observation, I bought 3 extra batteries with a wall charger, my original HTC battery is now a year old and there's a noticeable difference in battery longevity, my after market batteries last 30-50 % longer, so after 1 year it's time for a new battery
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
That's always a possibility... I'm on Virgin Mobile and I got one of the Sprint Evo 3D instead of the Virgin Mobile ones... There's always the possibility that it had been lying around in a box for a year or so. Something else to consider I suppose.
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Batteries normally will lose the ability of retaining a full charge after many discharge and charge cycles, lithium ion batteries are prone to this as any rechargeable battery
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
flashallthetime said:
Batteries normally will lose the ability of retaining a full charge after many discharge and charge cycles, lithium ion batteries are prone to this as any rechargeable battery
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
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This is probably your problem.
Lithium Ion batteries die slowly on the shelf too. They recommend you store them at 40% if they won't be in use, but there's no perfect way of storing a battery to prevent it from going bad.
However, charging it to 100% and leaving it is apparently really bad.
Maybe you did that before switching to the bigger battery?
Ahhh yeah... that's kind of exactly what I did.
Like the title days, is it just me or is the HTC one slow to charge? I cane home from work last night at 8:30 with 15% battery and by time I went to bed at 12:30 my battery was only charged to about 65%. I'm rooted running the cm10.1 ROM if it matters. Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242015
One theory is HTC set the charging rate lower than it could have, since the battery isn't replaceable. A lower charge rate might equate to longer overall battery life (in terms of how many charges it will take and the battery weardown during its lifetime).
That being said, there are custom kernels that allow a higher charging rate. You have to use a higher amp charger than came with the phone however.
Ah okay. I just wasn't sure. I just jumped ship to android from the iPhone 5 and I was able to get a complete charge in that 3 hour time with iPhone. Just curious if it was normal.
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zombiegrrl86 said:
Ah okay. I just wasn't sure. I just jumped ship to android from the iPhone 5 and I was able to get a complete charge in that 3 hour time with iPhone. Just curious if it was normal.
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Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but has anyone found a solution to the slow charging problem? I, too, just migrated from iPhone 5 to HTC One, and my only gripe is with the charging time. Would love to get a fix.
TomDaBomb2u said:
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but has anyone found a solution to the slow charging problem? I, too, just migrated from iPhone 5 to HTC One, and my only gripe is with the charging time. Would love to get a fix.
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There isn't one
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Slow charging is on purpose... when batteries charge fast they wear out fast... htc one has a non user replaceable battery...even ifixit finds it near impossible to pop it open and swap parts rating it 1/10...apple can fast charge as they expect you as iphone 5 is far easier to swap parts for and frankly dont want it to last, just buy our new model its 3% more applicious