http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-earliest-if-at-all.ars?clicked=related_right
yep, no love...
galaxy nexus, here I come.
Did I miss something? I didn't see a reference to the x2 at all..
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The official Motorola list has the DX2 as under evaluation for ICS which may be the same as never. My hope is that ICS is more profitable to Google for some reason so they would push Moto to update more phones. Even if it only makes it to a QA server and gets leaked out I would be happy.
Cheapxj said:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-earliest-if-at-all.ars?clicked=related_right
yep, no love...
galaxy nexus, here I come.
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X2 is not listed as NOT getting ICS. The article states:
The Droid 2, Defy, and Droid X don't appear to have made it to evaluation and planning considerations, but instead are listed alongside the most recent upgrade currently available (2.2 or 2.3).
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If you look at the actual Motorola page, the X2 is listed as in the evaluation and planning stage whereas before it was shown as having received the 2.3.4 upgrade. This doesn't guarantee an ICS upgrade, but it also doesn't rule it out of consideration like the Droid 2, Defy and Droid X appear to have been.
Just wanted to clear that up. I'm still waiting to hear back from Motorola and/or see what actions they take, but HTC is definitely the way I'm going. They just announced MORE phones that they are adding to their bootloader unlocking program.
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Some of the company's phones from summer 2010 seem like they will not make the cut.
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The Droid X2 came out in May of 2011
Nuf' Said
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The Droid X2 came out in May of 2011
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+1 on that.
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The official Motorola list has the DX2 as under evaluation for ICS which may be the same as never.
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I've been a user of many motorola products for YEARS.
this statement means "we have abandoned this device, but the first ones are still under warranty so we have to say this"
their software engineers need to all die in a fire, they've let me down in this regard numerous times over the years
however, I have NEVER had ANYTHING motorola fail on me hardware wise, well aside from the touchscreen on my MW-520 mobile computer, but it got hit by some untethered cargo during a 45mph side-impact collision, and it still fn worked, it was just cracked.
that's the ONLY reason I won't go HTC, never had ANYTHING HTC last longer than 90 days without having some kind of hardware problem, and I've had half a dozen different ones (probably 2 dozen if you count all the warranty replacements)
Today I had my very first service/call quality issue ever, I ended up reporting an outage/interference in downtown Denver cause it was only in a 2 block area. Strange thing was my co-worker who is a sprint customer had the exact same issues on a completely different phone, and they both worked fine there yesterday.
My wife got the Droid Razr on launch day in November and she has gotten 3 updates since then. I have had my X2 since July and have only gotten 2 updates. This is ridiculous. Even Apple put out updates for my 2nd Gen Ipod touch for 2 years after I bought it. This will not make me leave Android though. But I will leave Motorola. HTC is doing a great job unlocking there phones for power users if they are unsatisfied with the way their phones currently run. And that's where I'm headed. The HTC Rezound has several ICS roms already and that impresses me because that's the phone that I'm probably going to get. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to say something about this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that when a company(Moto, Htc, ect..) use "Google's" Android os they are required to keep it updated to the latest version for 18 months after its original release . If this is the case then you people are making a big deal out of nothing . The X2 will get ICS . Maybe we wont be first but we'll get it .
"Patience young grasshopper"
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that when a company(Moto, Htc, ect..) use "Google's" Android os they are required to keep it updated to the latest version for 18 months after its original release . If this is the case then you people are making a big deal out of nothing . The X2 will get ICS . Maybe we wont be first but we'll get it .
"Patience young grasshopper"
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OG Droid never got gingerbread.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that when a company(Moto, Htc, ect..) use "Google's" Android os they are required to keep it updated to the latest version for 18 months after its original release . If this is the case then you people are making a big deal out of nothing . The X2 will get ICS . Maybe we wont be first but we'll get it .
"Patience young grasshopper"
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For me it's not about getting ICS, it's about updates that fix the problems with this phone. Sure, I want ICS but I would be satisfied with regular GB updates. I understand that it will take awhile for us to get ICS since they have so many phones out there. Not knowing whether or not they have ended support for the X2 is what's frustrating.
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Im just happy that we have devs like dragon willing to bring us things like CM7, and a 2nd init. This, plus speedyscript and mashupV1 have made my dx2 a beast. dropping a 2933 in quadrant, and doing everything you ask of it and more as fast as any of the phones out there currently, makes me happy. Im sure with him and the others chugging away, we will have ICS whether moto wanted us to have it or not.
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OG Droid never got gingerbread.
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Ahh wouldn't that be because the 18 months had passed(nov09-jun11). That and maybe because it (og droid )couldn't run it with all the bloatware . I think hardware exceptions can and will be made . If you want ICS so bad then go buy a nexus or wait paiteintly for it to come out .We will have it one way or another. Moaning and growning about it here is absolutley useless!
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Ahh wouldn't that be because the 18 months had passed(nov09-jun11). That and maybe because it (og droid )couldn't run it with all the bloatware . I think hardware exceptions can and will be made . If you want ICS so bad then go buy a nexus or wait paiteintly for it to come out .We will have it one way or another. Moaning and growning about it here is absolutley useless!
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As I recall, gingerbread came out late 2010. And what bloatware?
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I just got the X2 and it's been running fine for me. It seems with the Tegra 2, this phone would possibly be able to handle Android 4.0 whenever it comes out. With the lack of development, what are the chances that the X2 will just ride with GB until its death? I like so far how the phone is working well out of the box, but in 1-1.75 years when the phone shows its age, I would like to mod it here and there to get some more life out of it.
No phone is future proof. The Tegra3 is around the croner for tablets, and phones wont be that far behind. I would bet 4g phones get the Tegra3, so if 4g is a negative for a select crowd, the DX2 may be the last great 3g phone. It will be interesting to see if they continue supporting a high-end 3g line.
I would imagine ICS would run fine on OG DX much less DX2. I would say there is a small, but possible chance a stock DX2 would die on GB. But the dev will bring it regardless.
Edit: And at this point I am 100% satisfied with everything I have flashed on DX2. What did DX have? Liberty and Apex. And yes a good bit of themes. But the devs here have a ton of scripts I never saw on DX and the themes have been coming fast, and are of good quality. The eclipse ROM has branched to AOSP, so both crowds should be happy. I personally stuck with 2.2 and couldnt be happier.
Jrummy can choke on his Charge
That's good to hear. ICS seems like it's going to be a new experience and I would hate to miss out on it. I'm a "noob" and so I can't demand things and my understanding is limited, but the bootlock seems to be restricting development
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That's good to hear. ICS seems like it's going to be a new experience and I would hate to miss out on it. I'm a "noob" and so I can't demand things and my understanding is limited, but the bootlock seems to be restricting development
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I seriously doubt that we get an official update to ics.
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I seriously doubt that we get an official update to ics.
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Lol so negative. What makes you think we wont? Motorola is actually decent with updates. Hell the og dx got gingerbread before we did so I doubt they will just totally forget about us.
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Kanibull said:
Lol so negative. What makes you think we wont? Motorola is actually decent with updates. Hell the og dx got gingerbread before we did so I doubt they will just totally forget about us.
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Not to mention that Google bought Moto recently. I think we will indeed get ICS.
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Not to mention that Google bought Moto recently. I think we will indeed get ICS.
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Let's hope so! There is a game called "We Rule" that doesn't work on the X2 yet but on the X1! BOOO
I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
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The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
Per Droid Life, and Twitter, Verizon tweeted that they are in the midst of updating their Software Upgrade Timeline. Droid Life is stating they feel the X2 is a yes in getting it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
We can only hope! I saw, tweet the snot out of Verzion and DEMAND ICS for the X2 (and adding an unlocked boot loader would be icing on the cake, er sandwich)
I have to agree with this list. Although I don't think the x1 down will receive ICS to push users to get newer devices.
It better also come with an unlocked bootloader IF we get ICS!
Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry though since I have CM7 now.
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Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry though since I have CM7 now.
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True, very true. But, to have an official ICS means possibly that Dragonzkiller and company can REALLY go to town on CM9 for the X2!
Motorola better not stiff us on ICS like they did the boot loaders.
But, the X2 will still be my final Moto device since they lied to us about the boot loaders and have not returned a single email I've sent. And I've been cordial and tactful. No hate, no cussing, no name-calling; very business-like but frank and to the point.
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Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry
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They gave us updates for bug fixes with more bugs in them.
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Per Droid Life, and Twitter, Verizon tweeted that they are in the midst of updating their Software Upgrade Timeline. Droid Life is stating they feel the X2 is a yes in getting it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
We can only hope! I saw, tweet the snot out of Verzion and DEMAND ICS for the X2 (and adding an unlocked boot loader would be icing on the cake, er sandwich)
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Lol at OG Droid "not likely ". Did it even get ota gingerbread?
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This could be why 2.3.5 still hasn't been released for this phone after tht leak.... Still on 2.3.4 eclipse and running great.
I was under the impression Moto said that every dual-core device would get ICS eventually.
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Lol at OG Droid "not likely ". Did it even get ota gingerbread?
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It didn't, only way to get GB on the OG was through custom ROMs such as CM7.
ICS maybe is better then no ICS at all... err. Think we all need patience, I am sure Moto will be pushing ICS to their 4G devices first, but who knows.
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True, very true. But, to have an official ICS means possibly that Dragonzkiller and company can REALLY go to town on CM9 for the X2!
Motorola better not stiff us on ICS like they did the boot loaders.
But, the X2 will still be my final Moto device since they lied to us about the boot loaders and have not returned a single email I've sent. And I've been cordial and tactful. No hate, no cussing, no name-calling; very business-like but frank and to the point.
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If Moto gives us four (?) crappy updates and drops support, it will be a cold day when I buy moto again.
Give me CM9 and Ill be happy!!! Good job Dragon and company!
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Give me CM9 and Ill be happy!!! Good job Dragon and company!
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Is somebody working on CM9 or ICS for X2 or are we going to need a pushed ICS update for the kernel before a ROM is attempted?
I doubt we will get it but if we do? A 4.0 superbloated blur infested phone is what we will have. My question would be...will 2nd init likely have to be started from scratch?
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I'm waiting until either the bionic or razor to get it and watch their forums to see what moto has screwed up or even make it possible to root my theory is that we might have to create a new 2int which would suck
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It better also come with an unlocked bootloader IF we get ICS!
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Lol one step at a time
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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It is almost 100% working HDMI is not supported by cm so that'll be a while it may never get outta the beta name
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Meticode said:
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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I would like to believe that but the Droid X had way better reception inside buildings then the Droid X2 I currently have. I have tried everything currently running eclipse 2.0.3 with mash up mod. I been thinking about trying CM7 but not if its really better then eclipse.
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I would like to believe that but the Droid X had way better reception inside buildings then the Droid X2 I currently have. I have tried everything currently running eclipse 2.0.3 with mash up mod. I been thinking about trying CM7 but not if its really better then eclipse.
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Thanks for that...
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Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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We may never know. Maybe Moto could push the upgrade to 2013 so we will never get it because 2012-the end of the world is coming! Lol.
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New updated phone about to drop,probably be next year
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I think Moto will stick to the timeline they have posted. ICS has been in development for the Photon for a while now and from all I have read with the re-structuring of Moto Mobility it seems they are pushing to get devices on the latest Android releases. Sounds to me like Google wants Moto to get on an update schedule similar to what the Nexus devices are on. This should not be a problem with Moto not having to support so many devices in the future.
I do hope that if/when ICS does come to the Photon it is a better release than what other manufacturers have pushed out. Everyone I have heard from that has gotten ICS hates it and wants GB back. Of course the best bet is to wait until our developers get the proper drivers and incorporate the missing pieces into custom roms and run those.
Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Well....I think it is a good sign that the Photon Q is coming with an unlocked bootloader option right out of the box. At least that is what the Sprint guy in here posted.
Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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I would PM Joker or Th3Bill with that link, just in case they missed it.
i don't care whether we get the official ICS, or even the drivers from another phone as long as the drivers are taken, and can be used towards all of the problems with the custom ICS and JB roms i will be happy. Hopefully if we cant get drivers from another phone the official ICS will get rolled out soon.
This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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thanks for answering the post, along with a little extra info
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i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
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thanks for just answering my post
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thanks for answering the post, but being an a** at the same time -_-
thanks for just answering my post
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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Well sir, I retract my statement, and issue an apology
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shabbypenguin said:
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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actually i read a discussion somewhere, they are not the same, cos tablets are based on Harmony board (tegra 250 T20), and mobiles on Ventana (tegra 250 AP20H) and some crappy little difference between them didnt let the devs do that.
shabbypenguin said:
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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Those tablets use a different type of Tegra 2, that's why. Photon/ Atrix= AP20H, Xoom/ Galaxy Tabs= T20. The captivate uses the same chip set as these Moto Tegra devices. People from the Atrix forums have started looking into the captivate leaks for anything, just be patient and wait for the news
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understandable that its the same tegra chipset but that doesnt mean its the same camera module. this is a different manufacturer we are talking about (samsung at that so it actually has a decent camera unlike moto)
Unless you're stuck with a locked bootloader or fortunate enough to be in a WiMax market, head over to the developer's forum and load one of the many ICS or JB based ROMs. Joker's CM10 based ROM is as stable or better of an experience than I ever had with factory.
Well Google buying Moto may have been a good thing, today Dennis Woodside announced that we will be upgrading all Motorola Devices we can to Jelly Bean and those that can't we will give you a $100 credit towards a new device.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
Motorola is actually doing something for their customers? I'm shocked. Depending on what kind of phones they announce, this may be cool. A lot of people will probably not want to stick with Motorola though.
EDIT: The Droid Razr M actually doesnt look that bad.
i want to see this happen, but i'm sure there is a way to screw over x2 users...maybe if they did though the wife would get the razr m
we'll see though
I just saw this and almost cheered during class lol.
I'm excited now, can't wait to see what will come in the next couple weeks/months.
It's for phones released in 2011 and later only. When was X2 released?
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Drunkula said:
It's for phones released in 2011 and later only. When was X2 released?
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Droid X2 was released May of 2011.
It would be amazing if we got Jelly Bean. That could open a lot of doors for us. (CM10 and all JB Roms due to an updated Kernel).
The $100 is kind of a lame incentive if we don't get the JB update. Who's really going to get another Moto phone? Show of hands please?
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It's for phones released in 2011 and later only. When was X2 released?
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Where did you see the year it just states "All of its new and existing". I didn't see the keynote speech unless it was Apple style and was blog only on the day of event.
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Droid X2 was released May of 2011.
It would be amazing if we got Jelly Bean. That could open a lot of doors for us. (CM10 and all JB Roms due to an updated Kernel).
The $100 is kind of a lame incentive if we don't get the JB update. Who's really going to get another Moto phone? Show of hands please?
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Well they already said that the Droid X2 was to remain on Gingerbread. So if we get anything, it will be the 100 bucks towards a new phone.
I doubt we will get anything....
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i will raise hell for you guys to get the $100. they said it so its now in stone. since we arent getting ICS let alone JB, we MUST get it or im going back to BBB complaints. sure im not using this phone as my daily, but, hell, you guys deserve it and ill switch back for $100 lmao
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Broskis! that didnt take long! heres the link to register. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/2/motorola-jelly-bean-rebate_en-US just enter you info, pick the droid x2 and you golden. Congratz
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Where did you see the year it just states "All of its new and existing".
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I saw/heard it on the presentation, live. Hadn't seen it in print yet.
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Broskis! that didnt take long! heres the link to register. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/2/motorola-jelly-bean-rebate_en-US just enter you info, pick the droid x2 and you golden. Congratz
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I wonder what the "select smart phones" are.....
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I wonder what the "select smart phones" are.....
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Probably the two newest announced phones....
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Wow . That's amazing
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I wonder if moto is tracking me. I got three "random" reboots while trying to fill this out on my phone (cm9). Hahaha.
It will be interesting to see if this only applied to phones bought from the carrier. I have 0 interest in buying a carrier subsidized phone again.
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I'll take the jelly bean, they can keep the money if it means another moto phone.
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I'll take the jelly bean, they can keep the money if it means another moto phone.
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Your not getting jellybean or ics moto hates the dx2.
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morphius2036 said:
Well Google buying Moto may have been a good thing, today Dennis Woodside announced that we will be upgrading all Motorola Devices we can to Jelly Bean and those that can't we will give you a $100 credit towards a new device.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
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A 100.00 credit is what u will get the x2 was lucky to get official 2.3.5...if you have unlimited 3g and want to keep it you can't upgrade to a 4g phone so the 100.00 credit is useless. If you wanna loose the unlimited 3g then its a 100.00 credit and a switch to a laughable shared data plan...so either way your screwed...vzw and moto likely planned it out together
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morphius2036 said:
Well Google buying Moto may have been a good thing, today Dennis Woodside announced that we will be upgrading all Motorola Devices we can to Jelly Bean and those that can't we will give you a $100 credit towards a new device.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
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Let's see the details. I don't trust them at all. WE will see if it makes any impact. Motorola is still cow-towing to Verizon on locked boot loaders and installing root detectors. So I'm betting its nothing but a PR gimick.
Oh ,gee thanks MOTO> I got a X2 in OCt.. 2011 and you dropped support for it 6 months later, so now I can buy another Moto from Verizon for $650 and you will give me $100 . Big woop. you screwed me once, never again..........
Just my $0.02 US - I think if Google were to publicly acknowledge the work done by the various rom devs here at XDA and elsewhere, and especially, the cyanogen Mod Team, in advancing the capabilites of the Android OS, it would put a big crinkle in Verizon/Sprint/AT&T's propaganda about not wanting to unlock bootloaders and the bloatware the carriers put on the phones.
As another poster upthread put it, why put it on the phones if nobody is gonna use it and not contribute to the carrier's coffers? Give us a OEM interface but leave the crapware off and unlock the bootloaders if you want to sell more phones!
One thing Steve Jobs hated about Android is the ability to customize the OS. I say we stick it to Apple and continue to customize our phones to OUR liking!