Guys there a deal for today at ebay.com for Nook Tablet from B&N that gives it for only 199$
yep.. couldnt refuse at that price point.. they got rid of the coupon.. so just $199 outright.. so saves on taxes if your state requires collecting it.. debated.. but i just cant say no to a deal like that.. loved the original NC.. was a solid piece of kit.. so i know i'll love the tablet..
I would get it as well but I live outside USA so.... :/
I jumped on this too. I've been following various websites for a better price and this is by far the best I've found (without having to do any pricematch/coupon shenanegans).
And the offer runs to Feb 23, apparently. Hope this establishes the new price point !
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it.
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Thanks, talked me out of it in the nick of time!
moukazwina said:
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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damnnn uhh now I don't want the nook tablet anymore
edit: there doesn't seem to be much development for Asus tabs?? ? why is there no cm9 alpha or anything I know these usually have honeycomb stock...
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Well I for one am still very happy with mine. The wifi bug isn't that bad, and I have confidence the devs will get it under control. I have no problem accessing ask the space I need, and the battery life is incredible.
Having great dev support is not something to take lightly. The guys working on the NT are doing a great job. My Samsung Fascinate didn't have a usable CM7 until it had been out for almost a year. I wouldn't put it past them to get better multi-touch support for this device as well.
All in all, it's a great device, and the great dev support makes it even better.
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B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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I thought the Kindle Fire only recognized 2 points on the touch screen as well. At least thats what many review for the game Nova (kindle fire edition) on the Amazon app store say. http://www.amazon.com/Near-Orbit-Va...1?s=mobile-apps&ie=UTF8&qid=1329581136&sr=1-1
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
I ordered it two days ago, can't wait to get it in the mail now.
The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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Well said i think exactly as you do and not because the a new tablet with more specifications with same or better price is round the corner means the quality will be good and the development for it will be fast, so far with the nook tablet devs have done an amazing job far before than what i ever expected. There is always people that do not appreciate the work that is being done and on top of that they ask for more, unfortunately XDA has got many of those, its a shame.
I think the nook tablet is an investment and i feel very happy with it, i will for sure enjoy it for a while and once another good deal like the NT comes out with decent hardware (not Chinese junk as @fjhuerta say) and green lights for development maybe then i would think in upgrade.
~ Veronica
openallnight said:
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
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1) yes
2) very easy...check put the development forum and you'll see the one click root. In a few days CM7 will be released in greater fashion than previously. In a month or so the nook tablet and its downfalls will be completely absent. The devs have been incredible with this device and it's only getting better and better. I purchased mine on release day and my love for it grows by the day. I've owned the kindle fire as well...but I did return it because it lacked the ram power of the nook tablet, and I could certainly tell(yes I was rooted on it as well).
Trust your gut. In the long run, I think if you choose the nook tablet, you'll be extremely happy.
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Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
alaw said:
Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440438
Got mine too
though as ever as soon as I buy something they announce the next version
I wonder if this deal involves the new model of NT with only 8G of internal memory (instead of 16G)? This model can also be purchased from the BN website:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-tablet-barnes-noble/1104687969?ean=9781400501779
take note of the 512mb ram as well so not only is the 8 gig model less storage space...but also down to 512mb system ram. I was hoping they'd keep the 1 gig ram but just lower the 'hdd' shame not :/
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Hi everyone!
I'm reading lots of good things about the HP Touchpad, and I'm planning to take a tablet just these days.
I was comparing the new Amazon Kindle Fire and the new Nook Tablet (aka. Nook Color 2) which are about to come out this month.
Unfortunately I'm from Italy so Amazon will not be a good option for me at last...
Suddenly I stumbled upon this HP Touchpad: lots of good reviews, lots of happy feedbacks, 9.7'' (which would be awesome for me as I'm gonna study on it lots of university pdf lessons too), good development community (Dual Boot WebOS and Android? Awesome!), CM support, all made me think it should be my best choice, but...
I'm just recently aware of the fact that HP Touchpad production is discontinued now, and so I'm really worried about HP's warranty/support of the product if I'd buy it now.
Also I'm worried about future updates (from development community mainly), I'd really like to develop for Android OS on this tablet if I'm gonna buy it.
I'm not a big fun of cameras and gps (I have another smartphone and real camera for those), so the lack of those is not a problem for me.
Also, my budget is ONLY around 200-230 bucks, not even near 300 bucks.
Finally, would you suggest this HP Touchpad to someone that's gonna buy a tablet NOW, is it still a good choice?
If the answer is yes, could you please explain why and suggest where to buy for worldwide delivery?
If not, could you please explain why in details and what would you suggest instead?
Thanks in advance!
It's funny how nobody actually answered this topic
At last, I managed to get a Touchpad for myself, spent around € 170 (yeah I'm talking in my own currency), which is totally worth it!
First day I updated WebOS to version 3.0.4, installed Preware with new kernel and governor at 1,5 Ghz.
Later on the same day, I installed the last CyanogenMod alpha release with SOD fix.
Guys, what can I say...this device is totally awesome!
I've tried lots of times the iPad 2, and also the new Galaxy Tab 10.1, and this Touchpad really is on the SAME level of experience (especially once you "unlock" the 1,5 processors).
I must say, WebOS for multi tasking and productivity, is far more professional and has really better performance than Android (and potentially could have been on same level of iOS if other nice updates would have come along), it's a real pleasure to use it.
Not to mention that the CyanogenMod is actually feeling as a real Beta, and Android on this Tablet is awesome too.
For ~ $200 this is a real bargain.
I don't even worry about WebOS future nor HP future anymore, as ICS has come out now and CyanogenMod's team will surely surprise us with a cool Alpha release the next 1-2 months or so (hoping).
And if anything goes wrong, the WebOS Doctor is the key for not breaking your warranty almost 99% of the times.
It's really difficult to break this Tablet from what I've seen.
I just hope, if anything really goes wrong on hardware side, that HP support for warranty will be good enough, hoping it will be available here in EU aswell.
If any of you knows anything about it, please share!
Final words: if you don't have it, take it!
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I must say, WebOS for multi tasking and productivity, is far more professional and has really better performance than Android (and potentially could have been on same level of iOS if other nice updates would have come along), it's a real pleasure to use it.
Not to mention that the CyanogenMod is actually feeling as a real Beta, and Android on this Tablet is awesome too.
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Current WebOS works well in multitasking, but the original one was really slow. Few cards opened and you literrally had issues with typing on virtual keyboard, really annoying stuff, even on overclocked (1.5GHz) version. Android was working way better then, felt perfectly smooth and so on, but for now, since it drains battery more and has some WiFi connectivity issues WebOS is just fine ;-)
Looking forward to ICS to get it's full potential.
I'm very pleased with the support of HP for TouchPad. I live in France and I'm a very lucky man because I could buy 4 TP in fire sale: 1 16GB, 1 32GB and 2 64GB. I have 1 64GB sent to repair center in Hungary because of the cracks, after 1,5 month I haven't yet seen any cracks, 1 16GB sent 2 times to repair center because of the touch screen (after the first repair, the problem couldn't be solved). Normally the tablet returns back in 10 days (by UPS), and totally free
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Heck Yes! It's a blessing!
for the price, it's the best
if you can get it under 200 its a good choice
The Asus Transformer will go on sale for 249.99
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I'm very pleased with the support of HP for TouchPad. I live in France and I'm a very lucky man because I could buy 4 TP in fire sale: 1 16GB, 1 32GB and 2 64GB. I have 1 64GB sent to repair center in Hungary because of the cracks, after 1,5 month I haven't yet seen any cracks, 1 16GB sent 2 times to repair center because of the touch screen (after the first repair, the problem couldn't be solved). Normally the tablet returns back in 10 days (by UPS), and totally free
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Thanks a lot man!
This is the answer I was looking for since I bought the TP
If I wasn't before, now I'm totally convinced I've done the best choice
I've just bought a Belkin case for iPad, and not so surprisingly it fits perfectly for Touchpad!
Even the holes for ports/buttons are at same positions
Sooooo happy with my touchpad. I was going to buy a Kindle fire, but when I saw the touchpads going for the same price on Ebay, I knew this would be the better deal.
Plus,I really like webOS. It works flawlessly on my work's wifi. Android devices trend to drop connection fairly often.
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the touchpads in raw bang per buck is better than the fire and nook combined. you're looking at a 1.5ghz dual core processor that was underclocked to 1.2ghz for marketting purposes.
the IPS screen alone is worth 100 bucks in supply costs
and 32gb of space? for 150bucks? done deal imo.
as it is so cheap now nothing will stop me to buy it！
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I am running dual boot webos and cm7. I will never be more happy. My sister has nook color, and I have used it. My tp beats it to dust becoz of the speed and screen to name a few things. I have heard good reviews about kindle fire but still its e reader with customized and limited version of android which again will have to cracked to get full android experience. Nook tablet seems to be good but its still 7 inch screen.
I know u can run Ubuntu and android on tp right now. It looks like tp hardware is like hd2, means we will b able to run many different OS on it.
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Listen, I understand how people are looking at KF and thinking - man, it's already rooted, has CWM and ROMS are but a minute away. Our NT is still locked down, and we're being told it may stay this way.
So naturally, being in your return period, you're thinking about switching boats to KF.
I have one word explaining why that's a real bad idea: SPECS.
Ok, say you have a KF running CM on it.
RAM - you have 512MB RAM. That's low, not enough for GB or ICS. No need arguing that GB will run on it - yes it will, but it'll never be as smooth as a 1GB RAM device. Android will keep closing apps to free up mem, that creates response lag.
Anybody who had an original SGS with GB on it knows - you just can't make an SGSII out of it, it will always lag here and there. Read engadget review - they are complaining about how laggy it is.
Memory - You've got 6GB memory. That's it. You'll never have any more. That means you'll constantly feel deprived of space - you can't load full HD movies to watch, you can't load your music collection on it. You'll constantly be sacrificing something.
Books/Media store - you only have access to Amazon media store, since B&N doesn't have a store you can install and use. On a NT, though, without any root we already can stream Amazon content, read Kindle books, and that's all with native support of everything B&N has to offer.
No MIC - forget about using your Fire with Google Voice. There's no mic. Also forget about recording yourself reading books to your kids, to use in case you're on vacation or something.
Amazon Cloud you say? Yes, but only where you have a good WiFi connection. As soon as you're out of range - the fun stops. Phone tethering you say? Those 2GB will disappear MEGA FAST if you stream to your KF.
Amazon videos you say? Sure, but remember - that ain't free. Pay Amazon Prime membership fee, then also pay for movies themselves. And again, only when on WiFi and you don't get to keep it.
On the other hand, consider this:
With NT, even without root, we already have a device that's:
Very snappy
Able to sideload apps
Able to run a different launcher
Able to run Opera browser - nice n fast
Able to run 720p videos in browser, full screen
Able to play almost any video up to full-HD 1080p BlueRay
Able to play AVI files with free third-party players (no need for conversion)
Has 33GB+ of memory with an added SD card. I've just loaded tons of movies, books, magazines and music on it, and still have space remaining
Will be able to be used as a phone with Google Voice
Run Amazon Market (some have reported that even older Android Market APK works)
Run both Amazon's and B&N's premium content.
Think about it. Yes, KF was hacked faster than our NT was, but in the end, we already have almost everything we need, AND we have a much more powerful device.
KF was quicker at the start, but it has almost depleted its potential as a modern Android tablet, considering what future versions of Android need. Our device still has tons of untapped potential.
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Engadget released a comparison between the two HERE.
Here are some interesting parts for the lazy:
Both tablets are a good size for one-handed reading, though the Nook edges out the Kindle here a bit, with its slightly lighter weight (14.1 ounces to the Fire's 14.6). The Nook's subtly convex back and plastic bezel make a bit easier to hold.
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Both devices rock 1GHz dual-core processors, but the Nook has an edge here, with its 1GB of RAM to the Fire's 512MB -- and certainly the difference is noticeable, even when booting up something as simple as a game like Angry Birds. Things are even more pronounced during video playback. We took Shutter Island for a spin via Netflix streaming on both devices, and it was really like night and day. Motion is far less choppy on the Barnes & Noble device. The HD playback on the Nook also picked up subtle imagery like patterns on ties, which were largely lost on the Fire.
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tl;dr version: PATIENCE!
+1 to NT and I repped you too!
oh wait..not SD. LOL
That is why everyone needs to pull their pants back up and wait.
It will be rooted.
I also voted this thread up!
How hard would it be for them to close the sideload loophole? The thing updates automatically, right? Obviously they are not going to be excited hearing about everyone using the Amazon store.
I agree the Fire is not a good alternative for exactly your reasons, but that doesn't necessarily mean that this is worth keeping if it turns out to be locked down tight.
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How hard would it be for them to close the sideload loophole? The thing updates automatically, right? Obviously they are not going to be excited hearing about everyone using the Amazon store.
I agree the Fire is not a good alternative for exactly your reasons, but that doesn't necessarily mean that this is worth keeping if it turns out to be locked down tight.
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In my opinion, a locked NT as it is right now is still much better than a KF running CM.
But given that they locked it down, don't you think it was a mistake/accident that they allowed apk installs through the browser? When they push the first update will that ability still be there?
DarkDvr, normally i would agree with you if the market only have two 7inch tablet to choose from (KF and NT). However this is not the case, we have tons of options in 7inch tablet market, and if B&N really is being an ass to lock down the NT, then people can choose other tablets that might fit their need better.
Last year when NC came out there was only two 7inch tablet (NC, and Samsung Tab), so we get a lot more developer support, and people are willing to be more patient, but this is no longer the case.
7inch tablets:
Nook Tablet
Kindle Fire
Samsung Tab (~$250 refurbished for 3g version, cheaper for wifi version)
Nook Color ($199)
Lenovo Idea Pad A1 (Cortext A8, 512mb ram, bluetooth, GPS, f/b camera, microsd slot, $199)
Acer Iconia Tab A100 (tegra 2, 1gb ram, Honeycomb, bluetooth, f/b camera, <$200 on BF)
Kobo Vox (Cortex A8, 512 ram, Gingerbread, MicroSd, $199)
Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus (Exynos dual core, 1gb ram, honeycomb, GPS, BT, F/B camera, $399)
Samsung Tab 7.7 (Exynos, 1gb ram, Honeycomb, GPS, BT, F/B camera, 1280x800, price?)
HTC Flyer (1.5ghz, pen input, $299)
Dell Streak 7 Tablet (Tegra 2, 800x480, Honeycomb, f/b camera)
And those are only the major brands, there are other off brands like Archos, Velocity Micro, Coby, that i didn't include.
So to me, if B&N really want to piss off the community that help make their NC a success to began with, then I will vote with my wallet and let them know that it is not a good idea to piss off the people your loyal customer, and your first adopter for the NT.
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Don't get me wrong, I still have high hope for the NT, and i really like the NC/NT simple but elegant design. However if B&N really choose to lookdown the NT's bootloader (which the dev community haven't conclusively proven yet), then i really don't want to buy a product from a company that chooses to piss off it's loyal customers.
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7inch tablets:
Nook Tablet
Kindle Fire
Samsung Tab (~$250 refurbished for 3g version, cheaper for wifi version)
Nook Color ($199)
Lenovo Idea Pad A1 (Cortext A8, 512mb ram, bluetooth, GPS, f/b camera, microsd slot, $199)
Acer Iconia Tab A100 (tegra 2, 1gb ram, Honeycomb, bluetooth, f/b camera, <$200 on BF)
Kobo Vox (Cortex A8, 512 ram, Gingerbread, MicroSd, $199)
Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus (Exynos dual core, 1gb ram, honeycomb, GPS, BT, F/B camera, $399)
Samsung Tab 7.7 (Exynos, 1gb ram, Honeycomb, GPS, BT, F/B camera, 1280x800, price?)
HTC Flyer (1.5ghz, pen input, $299)
Dell Streak 7 Tablet (Tegra 2, 800x480, Honeycomb, f/b camera)
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True, I definitely think that locking NT was a huge mistake that B&N will pay for, but for some of us NT IS the best option.
Samsung Tab - 10 inch heavy shovel - screw that
NC - too weak and laggy, even after mods
Lenovo - 512 RAM, weak
Acer Iconia - I see $330+ price even for 8GB version
Kobo Vox - 512 RAM and don't trust that brand
Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus - 400+tax for a tablet is overpriced
Samsung Tab 7.7 - even more expensive?
HTC Flyer - slow and laggy, overpriced since day 1
Dell Streak - slow and laggy, low res screen
What I'm saying is that when you, like me, are in the market for a cheap tablet, there's only 2 good options - NT and KF. Rest of them are either overpriced as a device (going into netbook or UP category, where they just can't compete) or some shady brands.
At least that's my thinking.
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Don't get me wrong, I still have high hope for the NT, and i really like the NC/NT simple but elegant design. However if B&N really choose to lookdown the NT's bootloader (which the dev community haven't conclusively proven yet), then i really don't want to buy a product from a company that chooses to piss off it's loyal customers.
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Agreed, and given a choice, I'd always go for a company that doesn't insult my intelligence and doesn't treat its customers as morons. However, I have full faith in XDA community and still believe this will get hacked. And when it does, I'll be pointing finger at KF and laughing maniacally.
Depending on the weather here on the forum in the next 12 days, B&N may be losing my $260 to a Samsung G 7+ (maybe even a KF if I'm feeling crazy). Or just wait a few months see what turns up after Christmas.
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So to me, if B&N really want to piss off the community that help make their NC a success to began with, then I will vote with my wallet and let them know that it is not a good idea to piss off the people your loyal customer, and your first adopter for the NT.
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I saw a quote linked somewhere here recently from someone from B&N and they said something about 3% of NC coming from modders. I don't know how accurate or guesstimated that number was, but we shouldn't forget that they sell millions of these devices to normal consumers and there are only thousands of us. I'd like to think they keep people like us in mind, but we certainly aren't they primary market by a long shot.
I agree that there are lots of other options, but it's disheartening when none seem to have the build quality and specs in the same price range as the Nook models, excluding BF sales that might be hard to get. The IdeaPad looks intriguing at first glance but is the same basic hardware as the year-old NC and with a worse screen (and eww: the $200 version has 2GB storage that probably won't ever fit ICS). Acer A100 looks nice but also has a cheaper screen and a small battery.
DarkDvr while i am like you, think that the NT might be the best fit for my use case also. But with so many choices out there, i think our dev and support community won't be anywhere near the same as it was with NC. Plus with the bone headed move on B&N part, i don't see many true devotee sticking to the NT like yourself. And that is the ultimate problem, without a strong dev community, the NT most likely won't get all the goodies like CM7/CM9, which is what made the NC awesome.
By the way the Samsung Tab i was referring to earlier is the 7inch model, the same one that came out right before NC. Both are rocking Cortex-A8 processor.
I am honestly VERY happy with the status of my KT right now. As it stands, with a launcher, widgetlocker app and all the other sideloaded apps I wanted I have everything i wanted.
I dont care if I lose amazon marketplace support, because honestly I can find any apk I want all amazon does is give me a way to read reviews (which i can through the browser + android market)
the only thing, and trust me it is a HUGE thing, i am terrified of is that come day 15 or 16 or even 30, B&N releases a firmware update i cannot click 'no' to and it updates my nook and closes the hole we've been using. I dont know if its possible, but I reckon it is and that would make me a very sad camper since stock, this thing is a total piece of **** software wise (nook market is worthless), i bought a tablet, not an ereader.
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I saw a quote linked somewhere here recently from someone from B&N and they said something about 3% of NC coming from modders. I don't know how accurate or guesstimated that number was, but we shouldn't forget that they sell millions of these devices to normal consumers and there are only thousands of us. I'd like to think they keep people like us in mind, but we certainly aren't they primary market by a long shot.
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Boomn i think you underestimate the word of mouth, and unofficial advertisement B&N get from the modder community. Every few weeks there is a story on Engadget, Liliputing or Gizmodo about how great the NC community is, and the release of the a popular Rom for the NC. Or how most of the highly rated reviews on B&N, Amazon, BB are from modder who brought the NC to use as a tablet. So while we as a community might be small, but our influences on "Normal" people's purchase decision are much higher than B&N thinks.
And if B&N think that they can piss off the dev community, while taking on Amazon, and all the other 7inch tablet maker out there, and still make the NT a commercial success, they might be in for huge disappointment. Just look at how many of the NT and KF review out there mention rooting or app side-loading as part of the official review, and how much negative PR B&N got from the 1GB storage limitation on the review sites.
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Because I live in Italy I'll receive my NT only on 26Nov. (if I will lucky), so no give back option for me
So.. I really, really hope that a hack will be found. Just the root will be enough for me
With the root we'll be able to run custom recovery, trow away what we don't need and add what is missing (settings, etc).
BTW for me realease the source and lock the bootloader is a nonsense!
First post.
I'm a full-time iOS developer with about 6 iOS devices on my desk right now. I really like iOS and love developing for it. Having said that....
I picked up a Kindle (e-ink) about a year ago and then switched to a Nook Simple Touch the day they were released. I've been watching the KF/NT release with great interest.
I eventually decided on the Nook Tablet and stumbled across this site the day I got it (the 16th). I have been blown away by the things you people have accomplished in just a couple of days and I've had a blast watching the hour-by-hour discoveries.
My main reason for getting the NT was as a reader and everything you folks are doing is icing on the cake. Very nice icing!
I'm also very optimistic that breakthroughs will continue even if the pace slows a bit. For me the KF is just too restricted in capability--even it if can be rooted.
As an aside, I also have access to a handful of Android devices including a 10.1 Galaxy Tab, and a Lenovo Ideapad K1 (it helps when the company is buying), but I prefer the Nook Tablet to either.
As long as I can keep side-loading apps I'll be happy. I certainly understand the sentiments of those not wanting to reward B&N for what appears to be a snub. At the same time as long as they continue to allow me some method to get a few more apps on the device I'm good with it.
It's been my experience that once I get a device setup--either iOS or Android--I really only end up using a handful of apps (after trying dozens)--but I want them to be very good apps that *I* get to choose.
Thank you to you all!
This thread should not exist, has nothing to do with android development and sounds more like a sales pitch than anything.
I get it you prefer the NT, me too but this thread is pointless and should be deleted...
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Boomn i think you underestimate the word of mouth, and unofficial advertisement B&N get from the modder community. Every few weeks there is a story on Engadget, Liliputing or Gizmodo about how great the NC community is, and the release of the a popular Rom for the NC. Or how most of the highly rated reviews on B&N, Amazon, BB are from modder who brought the NC to use as a tablet. So while we as a community might be small, but our influences on "Normal" people's purchase decision are much higher than B&N thinks.
And if B&N think that they can piss off the dev community, while taking on Amazon, and all the other 7inch tablet maker out there, and still make the NT a commercial success, they might be in for huge disappointment. Just look at how many of the NT and KF review out there mention rooting or app side-loading as part of the official review, and how much negative PR B&N got from the 1GB storage limitation on the review sites.
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Good point, we are certainly a vocal and influential bunch. However lots of those "normal" consumers would never check any place like Engadget for any review and have probably never heard of it. Mentions of modding/hacking/flashing in online store reviews go right over lots of people's heads too. Amazon and B&N are going to sell a ton of their tablets through physical stores like Walmart, Target, BestBuy, etc where most people still shop too. I agree that we probably do have more influence than just 3%... and now I'm not even sure where I was going with this point, lol
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This thread should not exist, has nothing to do with android development and sounds more like a sales pitch than anything.
I get it you prefer the NT, me too but this thread is pointless and should be deleted...
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This is the general forum for the NT not the development forum. Calm down.
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This is the general forum for the NT not the development forum. Calm down.
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My mistake, was on the wrong tab.
Still though, pointless thread is pointless. We all know the better device.
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My mistake, was on the wrong tab.
Still though, pointless thread is pointless. We all know the better device.
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I completely agree with that, but this thread serves as a reminder why it is still better than the Fire, to those that might not know.
notinterested said:
This thread should not exist, has nothing to do with android development and sounds more like a sales pitch than anything.
I get it you prefer the NT, me too but this thread is pointless and should be deleted...
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...Excuse me?
Forgive me for not appreciating your "experience" on XDA since, omg, feb 2010, but this is a General NT forum, and this thread is very much important to people who are right now at a tipping point between NT and KF, considering the latest root news for both devices.
So drink some coolaid and move along, kid.
Here is a good deal on a new HTC view for 229.99. No contract required.
http://1saleaday.com/
Nice to see that it's back at this price point for the people who missed out last month.
I purchased mine from this site when they offered it back in December. It arrived in less than a week and in brand new condition. I had no complaints whatsoever.
I placed an order this morning...Back in the box Kindle Fire, time to go back!
I'm thinking about picking it up. I have a Streak 7, which despite all the complaints, I don't think is that bad. The only thing holding me from buying this is going from a dual core down to a single core. Has anyone had both of these devices? How quick is the Evo? Thanks in advance.
I got one on the previous deal, thinking about getting another lol
I purchased one from this site again and I am purchasing a second one now so I can play with rooting and using other ROMs. The extra set of cables and charges are a benefit to me a well. I am sure I will be turning to you all at some point for what do do with the second system and how best to customize it. I hope that at some point ICS will be available too through customization.
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I purchased one from this site again and I am purchasing a second one now so I can play with rooting and using other ROMs. The extra set of cables and charges are a benefit to me a well. I am sure I will be turning to you all at some point for what do do with the second system and how best to customize it. I hope that at some point ICS will be available too through customization.
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Makes two of us.
Bought the second View yesterday - this time for myself
I just bought a Kindle Fire and put CM7 on it. So far I love it but this deal has me seriously considering selling the KF and picking up the Evo View.
What kind of differences will I notice in processing power, if any?
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I just bought a Kindle Fire and put CM7 on it. So far I love it but this deal has me seriously considering selling the KF and picking up the Evo View.
What kind of differences will I notice in processing power, if any?
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I am running CM7 on the Kindle Fire as well. I don't think it is that snappy at all. I am actually thinking the single core 1.5ghz processor will seem faster plus the 1gig of ram should help as well.
This device offers so much more then the KF at this price it cannot be passed up. With the addition of a front and back camera, bluetooth, 32 gigs of memory, official honeycomb update, that is enought to satisfy me. Plus nothing will seem as snappy as my Epic 4G touch anyway, even the KF with it's dual core isn't even in the same league as E4GT.
I'm wondering if I should pick one up or wait for the new Asus tablet, the 370T
I jumped on this deal this morning, as well. I look forward to putting my Nook Color on eBay or CraigsList in a week or two and joining you guys here in these forums. I just wish the deal had been through Amazon so I could have it on Monday - this week is going to kill me!
I'm no dev or anything, usually just a lurker with a couple posts here and there. But this place seems much more civil than a lot of the other XDA forums I've been in, so maybe that will change.
Now I'm off to shop for some accessories while I'm in limbo. Woohoo!
Screen?
Really considering this deal. I have a Nook Tablet and I really wish it had a front camera, working bluetooth, and to some extent, GPS. I do however really like the screen on the NT. How's the screen on the View? Can you move off center in all directions and it still looks great? Poor performance in the screen is the kind of fundamental niggle I just can't live with. How about responsiveness? Is the GUI relatively fluid?
wow I was wondering if that deal would ever come again. great tablet. I had a nook tablet before the view, but I just couldn't stand not having the real android market and I envied the stylus input. I'd say the screen is exceptionally responsive and fluid when compared to the nt. It really feels like a $500-$700 tablet slashed down to $230. its a steal. I almost want to buy a backup tablet in case anything happens to this one.
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I'm wondering if I should pick one up or wait for the new Asus tablet, the 370T
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You could buy this now, use it until that one comes out, and still get $200-250 for the View on Craigslist.
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You could buy this now, use it until that one comes out, and still get $200-250 for the View on Craigslist.
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If it does everything I need, I will go with the View. How thick/heavy is it compared to Fire? I wasn't impressed with how heavy the Fire was.
t-r-i-c-k said:
Really considering this deal. I have a Nook Tablet and I really wish it had a front camera, working bluetooth, and to some extent, GPS. I do however really like the screen on the NT. How's the screen on the View? Can you move off center in all directions and it still looks great? Poor performance in the screen is the kind of fundamental niggle I just can't live with. How about responsiveness? Is the GUI relatively fluid?
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I had the NT, even rooted it with your MAC script. I liked it a lot but could not live with the fussing around regarding the OTA update. B&N's stance on hacking their device has really soured my taste toward them so I returned it. I picked up a WiFi Flyer and haven't looked back. The screen is basically the same as the NT, just as good, if not better viewing angles. However, the NT has slightly less glare. The responsiveness is at least as good as the NT if not better. I even like the overall feel of the Flyer over the NT. It isn't as thin, but it feels stronger and better made. Anyways, I can pretty much guarantee you won't miss the NT at all.
What are the chances this thing will get ICS? Rather official, or CM9 support?
The price for this tablet is great, but if this tablet won't have ICS I'm going to wait awhile for the new tablets to come out.
View eats all other 7-8" tablets for breakfast.
Been there, done this.
Ordered my second View.
Returned my Vizio 8" to the store.
Life is good
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I am running CM7 on the Kindle Fire as well. I don't think it is that snappy at all. I am actually thinking the single core 1.5ghz processor will seem faster plus the 1gig of ram should help as well.
This device offers so much more then the KF at this price it cannot be passed up. With the addition of a front and back camera, bluetooth, 32 gigs of memory, official honeycomb update, that is enought to satisfy me. Plus nothing will seem as snappy as my Epic 4G touch anyway, even the KF with it's dual core isn't even in the same league as E4GT.
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I concur. I have Both the KF & HTC EVO View 4g and the View is Much, Much faster and snappier than the KF. I LOVE it since HC was put on and the Stylus works soooooo much better since HC. I use the View all the time AND I have a Xoom WiFi WITH ICS and still use the View more because I can Write to the SD Card whenever I want. Whereas my Xoom is a GED Device and even thou it has ICS there still is NO Write ability to the SD Card Internally, which to me gimps the device. I put a PNY 32GB Class 10 in my View for Extra Storage and have a Otterbox Defender on it. Awesome Device.
DON'T get caught up in the Dual Core vs Single Core issue with this device. HTC Optimized the View Magnificently with Sense and HC that it's really FAST and Buttery Smooth.
I just ordered mine. I was sorta reluctant, because I am not a fan of Sense. I currently have an Acer Iconia A100 that I got from Best Buy for $180. I will give the View 4G a shot (fingers crossed that CM will hit this thing). I just know that one tablet will be on the Craigslist soon. Also, I read this review after making the purchase:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-view-4g-review/
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I'm looking for a cheap Android Tablet and I know there are mods for both the Nook Color and Tablet, however the Tablet specifications are higher based on my searches.
My question is twofold: Is there *that* much of a performance difference between the Tablet/Color and: Which one is more customizeable (In the form of Root/Recovery/ROM development, etc.) and (ok twofold and a half!): Which would you recommend on a budget?
Thanks!
I apologize in advance if this question has been asked-I did not see it during my searches through the forums.
Performance on the 16GB Nook tablet is noticeably better than the Nook Color. I'm not sure about the 8GB, 512mb ram Nook tablet, but I'd imagine it has better performance, but a bit more limitation. With that said, development on the Nook Color far exceeds that of the Nook Tablet; its been out longer and wasn't anywhere near as heavily locked down as the Nook Tablet, which has hindered a lot of development of the Nook Tablet.
Nevertheless, despite limited developers on the Nook Tablet, the development is solid. CM7 is very stable. CM9 is also very stable, with the exception of hardware acceleration (no Netflix, not sure about HD youtube).
I'd say if you go Nook Tablet, go the full distance and get the 16GB. Or if you can wait, wait for the rumored Google Nexus Tablet that is supposed to be 7" and around $200.
it really depends on your expectations.. on a tight budget a refurb nook color for 99 is your best bet.. but i think youll have regrets so i really suggest saving up 300 get the 16gb at best buy with the geek squad warranty.
If I were to buy a tablet today..not back in nov. when I bought my NT, I would probably go with this..
http://www.frys.com/product/7019281?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Galaxy tab 2 7" running ICS. It has everything we are trying to get, plus it already running 4.0.3. at the $249 price point with expandable memory it is a
pretty nice device. I thought it was very smooth and responsive and I wouldn't have to hack it to get what I wanted. It has been fun to learn the rooting process and messing around, but in the end I wish that I would have waited if I knew this was going to be on the market so soon. I am sure it is lacking some things, but it was hard to see just by the few minutes I messed with it. Good luck deciding. One other thing for me is that I don't use BN content so the Galaxy tab at the same price is very interesting.
I worked at B&N and I can tell you by experience I would not recommend the Nook Color to anyone, and I told this to my managers- I despised it.
When Nook Tablet came out, I changed my opinion on it.
Moral of the story is, stock wise- nook tablet performs substantially better than the Nook color.
However, I cannot tell you how CM7 works on the NC.
I had a Samsung Tab 2 7.0 and I took it back. Most everything about it was fine except this: There was no option to move apps to the sd card. I tried two transfer apps from Google Play and neither of them worked. The tablet is supposed to have 8GB of storage, but after you subtract the OS and Samsung's additions, there is only a little over 4GB left.
A comment on the internet said that this transfer problem was a "feature" of ICS. If anyone knows if this is true, or if there is a way around it, I would certainly like to know.
Cubanluke88 said:
I'd say if you go Nook Tablet, go the full distance and get the 16GB. Or if you can wait, wait for the rumored Google Nexus Tablet that is supposed to be 7" and around $200.
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...Interesting-I hadn't heard about the Google Nexus Tablet. I'm ultimately trying to find a tablet to play with that has decent performance under $200....(Ideally under $150, but that may not be realistic)....
...Maybe that'll make B & N push down the price of the Nook Tablet
Overstock. Com has the Nook Colors (refirbished) for $135, and the Tablet 16 Gb (also refurb) for $199. I'll got a refurb Tablet from them and it looks and works fine.
And yes, the Tablet 16 Gb is noticeably faster than the Color; both running CM7.
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Overstock. Com has the Nook Colors (refirbished) for $135, and the Tablet 16 Gb (also refurb) for $199. I'll got a refurb Tablet from them and it looks and works fine.
And yes, the Tablet 16 Gb is noticeably faster than the Color; both running CM7.
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Yikes... NC for $135 is absolutely not worth it.
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Yikes... NC for $135 is absolutely not worth it.
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ya, I thought I saw some NC on Ebay for less than that (Like $99, and I thought that was high, but I don't admittedly know the value in relation to this price)
Go with the NT. There's one being sent to an Elite Recognized Developer who works on the binary level as we speak, so it's only a matter of time before everything gets unlocked.
Hello folks,
I have a question regarding the Nook tablet. I was making a delivery to a customer this morning and he has a Nook 16GBTablet. We got to talking and he indicated that he was going to sell it since his wife didn't use it. It looks like new physically and I am considering obtaining it for one of my grandsons, basically so I can get my Nook Color with CM7.2 on it back from him. Is the Nook Tablet a worthwhile barter or would something else be better? I bought a Samsung Tab2 7" tablet for a younger grandson a couple of weeks ago and he really likes it, But I don't think I can get a deal like I got for the Samsung. I only gave $169 for it new, still sealed in the box and I doubt I will find another deal like that as I'm pretty sure the fella sold it to me for less than he paid for it. I'm getting off track here, what I need to know is if the Nook Tablet is even a worthwhile Andriod tablet or would I be better off waiting a bit for the new, different brand tablets to come out?
Check swappa.com and see the prices for the tablets. Maybe you get to catch a good deal, I bought my Samsung captivate there and loving it. The nook is worth it in my opinion and the deal breaker is the sdcard slot . Nexus 7 temps me but no sdcard slot no way I buy it, anyways for what I do the nook tablet is enough. Tho I know kids love games and probably that is what they do in their tablets more than anything and the nook does a decent job with kids games, heavy games not that good.
Tablets with Tegra 2 chip is gamers glory and with dual/quad cores is a dream but your budget is not enough.
Good luck!
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The nexus 7 is ( in my humble opinion ) the product of the year. The other major producers were surprised and knocked back on their butt. Now they have to answer back with something equal or better. Then there is the argument that it is 'not' just the product but the 'exosphere' along with the product. Lastly, the Nook is a fine performing tablet.
The Nook Tablet, was made to be a reader, but the xda community saw it to having more potential then BN wanted it to. The Nook Tablet has gone far from becoming a full-fledged reader into a usable, 7-inch Android tablet wonder. The Nook was at the bottom along with it's brother in technology, the Kindle Fire, as it was a reader, but it has pushed to the top, and now is one of the most popular tablets out there. I have a Nexus 7 myself, and it is amazing, but was at the top from when it was born. The Nook, and the great devs of this forum, had to work it up there, while BN did not help even once, except for the kernel. We even have our own nearly working kernel, thanks to Rebellos, Chris, and Kuzma. We have succeeded in reaching the latest Google experience, Jelly Bean AKA Android 4.1, and the devs hope to keep working and catching up with Google. As the problems slide off the radar, more devs have appeared. The Nook may not be a Nexus 7, but it sure damn does the job like it.
From what I've heard/read/seen I could make such list of tablets in this class, from best to slighty worse
1) Nexus7
2) Nook Tablet
3) Kindle Fire (note this has got better Android support than NookTab for now <points at Hashcode>)
4) Nook Color
There are for sure others, but I don't know others.
Also, if you want to use it as overpowered Android device someday - get 16GB version, it has got 1GB of RAM, while 8GB ver got 512MB of RAM and it might be not enough for some games, more browser tabs, etc.
Thanks for the opinions.
If I and the owner decide to work out a barter I may do the deal. Cash purchases are not many, but I do quite a bit of bartering and it is a 16GB Tablet. Have a 14 almost 15 year old grandson that could make good use of it I believe. Don't know how savvy he would be to rooting the Nook though he is really good with computers, he fixes all my messups.
When the reboot bug gets squashed expect lovely things coming along.
I get 1.9Mpixel/sec on this test on default clocks.
http://www.ziilabs.com/products/software/mandelmark.php
0.1Mpixel/sec more than Galaxy nexus o.o
Imagine 2x1.2ghz and gpu from 308mhz to 384mhz that can be easily be achieved without any problems as our platform 2.3ES defaults to 1.2ghz.
Is not implemented yet because of the 1st priority is to fix that reboot bug!
Also new drivers for graphic card are release from ti DDK1.9 i guess more speed will be possible also with them implemented
http://www.omapzoom.org/?p=device/t...it;h=ad17249821001789f159a5d5c542302e5f38cd2e
When our developers finish with this board you will have nothing to be jealous from Nexus7.
You would be able to play anything you throw at it
Edit: 2.2 Mpixels/sec on DDK1.9