Beats is a great brand in my opinion, and its pretty cool for them to be involved with such a great company as HTC. So how does beats work
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Beats is a great brand in my opinion, and its pretty cool for them to be involved with such a great company as HTC. So how does beats work
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Are you completely sure it does work m8 ????
By beats a presume you mean Dreys Beats?? ....... *sigh*
No offence but they sell overpriced junk to clueless kids who want another 'cool' accessory to match their iphone
If you want good sound quality headphones go to a proper HiFi shop and try some Sennheisers and some other brands ......... you'll probably notice that most of the Sennheisers sound great compared to other manufacturers offerings at the same or often much higher price.
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Please don't get sucked in by the 'Big rap name brand BS' all they sell is overpriced junk. There are proper companies who develop and sell REAL HiFi headphones, Sennheiser, BeyerDynamic, Sony, etc.
Give them your cash and get genuinely awesome sound quality rather than something that just happens to come in pink camo.
Oh yeah almost forgot if Beats on HTC does anything at all it will be nothing but a slight EQ profile change, to accentuate the characteristics of the phones.
Probably just a big dumb low freq boost so you can 'Feel da bass'. Problem is as anyone whos HiFi knowledgable will tell you an EQ really needs setting for each piece of music or at least each style ......... once you understand that you start to realize how useless such gimmicks are and learn to not trust companies behind such junk.
Dunno what HTC are getting in bed with this, maybe their marketing people think they need kid street cred.
The Beats thing is not what you would want in Headphones. I will always want to listen to my music without adjusting the EQ. Personally never liked the over done BASS on the headphones myself, could always find something cheaper that did a better job.
I would always want to listen to music on a iPod so i don't drain the battery of my phone.
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Are you completely sure it does work m8 ????
By beats a presume you mean Dreys Beats?? ....... *sigh*
No offence but they sell overpriced junk to clueless kids who want another 'cool' accessory to match their iphone
If you want good sound quality headphones go to a proper HiFi shop and try some Sennheisers and some other brands ......... you'll probably notice that most of the Sennheisers sound great compared to other manufacturers offerings at the same or often much higher price.
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Please don't get sucked in by the 'Big rap name brand BS' all they sell is overpriced junk. There are proper companies who develop and sell REAL HiFi headphones, Sennheiser, BeyerDynamic, Sony, etc.
Give them your cash and get genuinely awesome sound quality rather than something that just happens to come in pink camo.
Oh yeah almost forgot if Beats on HTC does anything at all it will be nothing but a slight EQ profile change, to accentuate the characteristics of the phones.
Probably just a big dumb low freq boost so you can 'Feel da base'. Problem is as anyone whos HiFi knowledgable will tell you an EQ really needs setting for each piece of music or at least each style ......... once you understand that you start to realize how useless such gimmicks are and learn to not trust companies behind such junk.
Dunno what HTC are getting in bed with this, maybe their marketing people think they need kid street cred.
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Nice reply thanks, I was actually was thinking of buying a pair of beats but man have you convinced me lol. I've always thought that people like beats because its has so much marketing, then when a person uses them its like mental if you know what I mean
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Nice reply thanks, I was actually was thinking of buying a pair of beats but man have you convinced me lol. I've always thought that people like beats because its has so much marketing, then when a person uses them its like mental if you know what I mean
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Dood DO NOT Just take my word for it .... go to a decent HiFi shop with your phone or MP3 player ( i don't use my phone for mobile music never have ).
Use your own player with your own music and just listen to some different phones and see what you think. Do the same thing with some 'Cool boutique' phones and you'll see what a mean.
I can predict that Sennheisers will most likely be the best 'bang for buck' in full size cans anyways. Their in ears are good too but i don't use in ears myself as am one of those people whos ears get sore in 20mins using in ears.
Oh yeah forgot to say the best sound quality improvement on headphones for less than $20 is a of these
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FiiO E5, headphone amp it sits between your player and your phones and acts as a dedicated power Amp. Its about 45x45x8mm with an LED lit on/off button, a volume rocker, and an EQ button flat (FTW), or Bass boost (meh).
They are stupid cheap (thanks to our Chinese brothers )
Usb rechargeable, run for about 10 hours on one charge, improve the sound stage and the mid tones amazingly well.
Also they help reduce battery drain in your phone/MP3 player as you can turn the Amp upto 80%-90% and leave it there and run your player on much lower volume like 20%-40% this can make a huge difference to battery life if (Like me) you pretty much listen to mobile music constantly when your outta the house. Get them for peanuts on ebay they really are awesome. FiiO also make a bunch of others models waaay more sophisticated than the E5 i have, but it only cost me $15. Best mobile music accessory i have ever bought, and i've been a mobile audiophile since the 80's!!!!
I agree... Beatz by Dre are CRAP.... 20 Hertz are the lowest they go..
And for 300$ that whack bass lol
I bought pro American Audio DJ headphones that go all the way down to 5Hz for 100$ and the bass is ridiculous!!!
I'm a bass quality type of guy and if you hate bass like treble and are fine with OK audio... then these are for you....
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I was looking at some senheiesers for 100$ on musicians friend looked pretty good through they have a large selection
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What Guru Zeb said. It's all a load of gimmicky rubbish designed to part you from your cash.
If you want good audio fidelity it would be wise to invest in Headphones from a company that has been making them for over fifty years. You wouldn't buy a car made by Zanussi after all, although you might have a washing machine from them!
Stick to the known manufacturers like Sennheiser and you can't go wrong.
Beats is garbage. Htc use it to make their phones desirable to ignorant teens. That is all.
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Beats is garbage. Htc use it to make their phones desirable to ignorant teens. That is all.
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I agree... Beatz by Dre are CRAP.... 20 Hertz are the lowest they go..
And for 300$ that whack bass lol
I bought pro American Audio DJ headphones that go all the way down to 5Hz for 100$ and the bass is ridiculous!!!
I'm a bass quality type of guy and if you hate bass like treble and are fine with OK audio... then these are for you....
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Curious as to why you need bass down to such a low level, since that's pretty much just moving air at that kind of frequency... I don't really think you would hear any difference tbh, unless I'm missing something
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Curious as to why you need bass down to such a low level, since that's pretty much just moving air at that kind of frequency... I don't really think you would hear any difference tbh, unless I'm missing something
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In large speakers yes its just moving air... but have you felt 5Hz in headphones?? Not only does the bass sound richer and deeper but idk the rest of you but I like the feeling of the bass as well and with 5hz you CAN feel it lol
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Beats is garbage. Htc use it to make their phones desirable to ignorant teens. That is all.
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Excellent choice of Avatar image there m8
Check out Bhajis Loops
http://chocopoolp.com/
Its oooooold but utterly amazing still nothing that really comes near it for a mobile DAW ........ then maybe buy and old PALM to run it on ..... I did
You are right, humans cannot hear 5hz, but that is not the reason for wanting to have cans that can reproduce such low frequencies.
The real reason you want cans or speakers in general for that matter to be able to reproduce frequencies way out of our hearing range is to allow for the rollofs at the limitations of a driver. Every speaker has a limited range of frequencies that it can reproduce, usually some range between 20hz and 20,000hz, but there is a difference between what is "reproduceable" by a driver and what is "useful" in that range of frequencies. As you reach the upper and lower ends of that range you are actually reaching the physical limitations of the mechanical features of the speaker which means that there are variances in the frequency response that reault in what is called a "rolloff" or drop in the output of the speaker at specific frequencies. For example if you have a set of cans that respond fron 20 to 20k as previously described, when tested with measuring equipment you will find that when you reach up around 15k or 16k you will stat to get a drop off in response resulting in decreased volume from those frequencies due to losses within the mechanical reproduction of the audio, say for example a drop of 3db/octave beyond 15khz. While the speakers may still do something, "respond", when you supply them with a 20khz tone, the tone may be very much quieter than a useful volume for music reproduction purposes.
If the response range of the speakers advances a ways past the range of frequencies audible to humans you will find that the response within those audible frequencies will be stro.g at the far low and far high extremes of the range because the driver is not working at the edges of its mechanical limitations. Less energy is wasted as heat because the driver operates more efficiently within the useful range that it is intended for. So while you may not be ae to hear that extra 15 thousand hertz your speakers can produce above 20khz, its purpose is not to be audible, its purpose is to improve the linearity of the response of the audible frequency range.
Now, back to the topic, since im a sound engineer by profession and obviously audio actually matters as a feature to me, what does "with beats audio" actually entail in practice and can it be turned the **** off? I have a funny feeling i might buy the htc one x and i want to be sure that this "beays audio" nonsense isnt gonna actually ruin the audio playback for me as its basically mission critical. As long as it can be completely disabled so it has no effect on playback i will be satisfied.
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Now, back to the topic, since im a sound engineer by profession and obviously audio actually matters as a feature to me, what does "with beats audio" actually entail in practice and can it be turned the **** off? I have a funny feeling i might buy the htc one x and i want to be sure that this "beays audio" nonsense isnt gonna actually ruin the audio playback for me as its basically mission critical. As long as it can be completely disabled so it has no effect on playback i will be satisfied.
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NEEDZ MOAR BASSSSS!!!
To answer your question, it's nothing more than a branded EQ and I'd imagine it's just an apk that can be uninstalled or frozen with titanium backup or equivalent app....
The fact that it's nothing more than a gimmick which allows them to slap a sticker on the box and lure in teenagers who enjoying playing Rihanna songs at full volume on their phone in public, makes me think that it will not be so deeply integrated that it's difficult to remove.
Thats exactly what i was hoping.
I discovered after a little reading that the reason htc have gotten involved in the beats audio gimmick is that beats electronics inc. invested $300million in htc. Kinda hard not to slap the logo on for that much money in what is arguably hard times for htc.
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Thats exactly what i was hoping.
I discovered after a little reading that the reason htc have gotten involved in the beats audio gimmick is that beats electronics inc. invested $300million in htc. Kinda hard not to slap the logo on for that much money in what is arguably hard times for htc.
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Interesting....
Gotta pay the bills I guess...
Beats audio..
Beats audio.
what i think ( and tested ) not the headphones.
But beats audio on your phone has very little to do with the hardware. and no special hardware inside the phone is required.
(ie flashing sense 4 rom with beats support wil work on a desire HD)
Now let me be bold to say that the software "beats audio' is nothing more than a "soft" DSP.
Copanies like SonicFocus / DTS / and Dolby have ben in this for ages and doing asuperb job at it.
Call it EQ, call it an algorithm.
Beats is in fact an algorithm that boost the dynamics, dep bass, brilliance, and solo clarity of the sound.
Creative > crystaliser
SoundMax > Sonic Focus
And i do have to say that with the "beats audio" enabled it does sound bigger and more clear.
But is it still safe to say that with compression of mp3s or even streamed music the quality of the sound could get just a little dull.
( at least that is what I notice )
Not thats where the DSP comes in, may it be beats, sonic focus, or whatever. I think on a mobile device playing mp3/streamed audio it does enhance the sound.
conclusion.
its a soft DSP, with its own fancy name and logo. A DSP that should be in that device anyway.
A nice marketing gimmick.
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You are right, humans cannot hear 5hz, but that is not the reason for wanting to have cans that can reproduce such low frequencies.
The real reason you want cans or speakers in general for that matter to be able to reproduce frequencies way out of our hearing range is to allow for the rollofs at the limitations of a driver. Every speaker has a limited range of frequencies that it can reproduce, usually some range between 20hz and 20,000hz, but there is a difference between what is "reproduceable" by a driver and what is "useful" in that range of frequencies. As you reach the upper and lower ends of that range you are actually reaching the physical limitations of the mechanical features of the speaker which means that there are variances in the frequency response that reault in what is called a "rolloff" or drop in the output of the speaker at specific frequencies. For example if you have a set of cans that respond fron 20 to 20k as previously described, when tested with measuring equipment you will find that when you reach up around 15k or 16k you will stat to get a drop off in response resulting in decreased volume from those frequencies due to losses within the mechanical reproduction of the audio, say for example a drop of 3db/octave beyond 15khz. While the speakers may still do something, "respond", when you supply them with a 20khz tone, the tone may be very much quieter than a useful volume for music reproduction purposes.
If the response range of the speakers advances a ways past the range of frequencies audible to humans you will find that the response within those audible frequencies will be stro.g at the far low and far high extremes of the range because the driver is not working at the edges of its mechanical limitations. Less energy is wasted as heat because the driver operates more efficiently within the useful range that it is intended for. So while you may not be ae to hear that extra 15 thousand hertz your speakers can produce above 20khz, its purpose is not to be audible, its purpose is to improve the linearity of the response of the audible frequency range.
Now, back to the topic, since im a sound engineer by profession and obviously audio actually matters as a feature to me, what does "with beats audio" actually entail in practice and can it be turned the **** off? I have a funny feeling i might buy the htc one x and i want to be sure that this "beays audio" nonsense isnt gonna actually ruin the audio playback for me as its basically mission critical. As long as it can be completely disabled so it has no effect on playback i will be satisfied.
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This is exactly right.
The numbers relating to audio that are posted on headphone and speaker boxes are a mess, they all proudly proclaim 20-20k, but realistically they're defining an edge on a smooth curve. The point you made about linear amplification bears to be repeated: the phone is going to contain the driving amp, and the ideal amp would produce a square wave at your nominal impedance, where the amplifier will simply not push any frequency below the lower bound, then push exactly X dB at each frequency for the entire supported frequency range, sharply dropping off again to never push any signal above the upper frequency bound.
The actual bounding values that the amplifier covers are irrelevant because the physical limitations on what frequencies silicon can push are far outside of your audible hearing range (no you cant hear 20Hz, I know your science 8 teacher told you you could but he lied, you have superb hearing if you can hear 30Hz, furthermore none of my music produces sounds above 16KHz).
And that's only speaking to frequency response, which, while arguably the most important characteristic of an amplifier, is certainly not the only one.
Somebody before this post suggested getting a Fiio E5 headphone amp, I've used one of those and they really do help if your trying to drive 100 Ohm+ headphones, which almost no ear buds are. If your wandering around with Senny 600s or AT 900s you might need such an amp, but for the most part the amp built in to the phone should suffice.
I hope the thing that a "beats [certified amp]" means is that for some given load (read: headphones to drive) the amp must produce a reasonably constant dB / frequency curve. But looking at beatsbydre.com/beatsaudio/Beats%20Audio,default,sc.html, it really does just look like yo dawg, this stuffs dope, we promise.
as per Enonoid, I'm wondering if its just software and/or a DSP. I haven't used any beats audio stuff before so I cant speak to it, but the "Crystalizer" feature on modern X-Fi stuff is actually kind've nifty. Its claim is that intrinsically its very difficult to encode percussion, and so when decoding you should have filters that smartly look for percussion and attempt to create the true audio-spikes they entail, rather than the wash they frequently get encoded as. Its a novel concept, and I'd even be willing to argue it adds something to the sound, and if beats is just something similar, I guess I'm on board, as long as it isn't simply slanting an EQ to boost everything below 500Hz.
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How does everyone feel about the sound quality? BEATS rolleyes sounds ok, a bit "overblown."
The real issue, is that compared to my iPhone 4s; the rezound doesn't sound as good. It sounds better than my GS2, but I honestly feel like the 4s has better sound. Anyone else have any input?
I'm using Shure SE215s right now, they sound much better than the beats headphones or the Apple In-ear ones I have.
I think it may depend on the type of Music you listen to man. I listen to mostly rock/hard rock and both the Beats and SkullCandy buds I have sound awesome on the phone! If you install another EQ, I found using the HTC Music app it will screw with Beats. You can only use the alternate EQ outside of HTC Music, like in Google Music, etc. My phone sounded like absolute **** on HTC Music with both Beats and the other EQ on at the same time. Since most other EQ's run in the background, I didn't realize what was going on and almost got pissed off.
I listen to all sorts of stuff. I was lying in bed last night with three sets of headphones, and iPhone 4s, and my rezound. Comparing all sorts of stuff. The same parts of the same track, beats on/off, etc.
No extra equalizer on either.
I can only compare it to my iPod from 2005 and first gen zune but I think it sounds much better, honestly. I listen to rock only, though. I think the ear buds are pretty nice. I never really use earbuds because I use over the head cans for recording etc, but I think these sound pretty good on here!
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Thats kind of my point, I wouldn't say the rezound sounds "bad" by any means. It sounds quite good actually! It sounds better than my GS2.
I just think maybe the iPhone sounds better. I will do more "testing"
Why not just go get an I-Phone 4s ???????
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When you're stating your thoughts, you should state at the minimum:
App you were using to play music
Beats on or off or other EQ etc...
What you were listening on
I want to know how it sounds when connected to a car or home theater system. My thunderbolt sounds just fine with headphones but connect it to a car or HT system and there is quite a bit of hiss included with the audio. This has persisted over multiple roms, kernels, and apps. I imagine the hiss is still there with headphones as well but the volume is less when using headphones. When connected to an external amplifier, the volume is maxed just to get a reasonable signal to the other device.
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Why not just go get an I-Phone 4s ???????
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... I have one. Great post by the way.
When you're stating your thoughts, you should state at the minimum:
App you were using to play music
Beats on or off or other EQ etc...
What you were listening on
I want to know how it sounds when connected to a car or home theater system. My thunderbolt sounds just fine with headphones but connect it to a car or HT system and there is quite a bit of hiss included with the audio. This has persisted over multiple roms, kernels, and apps. I imagine the hiss is still there with headphones as well but the volume is less when using headphones. When connected to an external amplifier, the volume is maxed just to get a reasonable signal to the other device.
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I stated all that? I tried apple in ear, beats that came with the rezound, and my shure SE215s.
I tried beats On and Off, that was part of my first post.
Just using the standard HTC music app and the standard iphone music app.
I use my rezound to listen to audiobooks on my long commute hooked up to the car, i'm actually not into car audio at all, so I wont' be any help there. I don't notice any kind of hiss with the rezound, I definitely had it with the garbage Bionic. I usually keep the rezound a notch below max and compensate with the car volume.
My Rezound has weak audio threw the speaker... not sure if anyone else is experiencing this. Choppy, distorted and low, but it might be because of the type of music. Most of my music has a lot of bass.
The reason other EQs sound bad w/ BA enabled is because BA when on is a custom EQ setting. In other words you shouldn't mix 2 EQ settings together, BA(beats audio) is simply a EQ profile made by HTC or Beats.
what ace said. if someones using Eq with beats, then sigh lol...
but i don't have an iphone4s to try out, so i don't have a comparison..all i've got is a 6 year old ipod that isn't even a touch lol
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How does everyone feel about the sound quality? BEATS rolleyes sounds ok, a bit "overblown."
The real issue, is that compared to my iPhone 4s; the rezound doesn't sound as good. It sounds better than my GS2, but I honestly feel like the 4s has better sound. Anyone else have any input?
I'm using Shure SE215s right now, they sound much better than the beats headphones or the Apple In-ear ones I have.
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'call quality' is comparable to the Incredible 2(and definitely better then the Thunderbolt), especially when using Skype.
'sound quality', not really an improvement per se, just they add in a custom 'Beats' EQ to the stock player to try and awe people.
all beats is is a custom EQ setting with more emphasis on lows + you can't even adjust the EQ to your liking. the headphones are ok for being throw ins, but the Bose headphones for around the same price have a bit better clarity and the bass response is a bit better to(just that the dres hit a tad harder).
I'm not trying to put down the phone(heck I bought one) or anything... it does have a really nice screen and performs slightly better then an overclocked Thunderbolt(probably due to Google doing a poor job with the dual-core architecture).... but if you bought/want this phone just because of the whole "Beats By Dre" bit, then you've been had sucka!
p.s. btw, the one thing Apple has done with pure excellence is iphone/ipod EQ. probably the best out there period.
i believe i read somewhere the beats eq is an active eq that constantly adjusts to compensate for frequency loss etc. if so, that's a nice feature.
I don't care who invented beats anyways, I love Monster's products, and this is one of them, lol. People are under the perception this is a Dr. Dre owned and operated business, wrong. It's just the branding, and like the above said, to awe people.
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i believe i read somewhere the beats eq is an active eq that constantly adjusts to compensate for frequency loss etc. if so, that's a nice feature.
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Maybe, but check the engadget review of sensation xe, they show you the eq settings of beats audio.
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The external speaker on my Incredible sounded louder than the one on my Rezound, although through the beats headphones music sounds great. At times it's a little too bass heavy for me because I listen to a lot of Hard Rock/Heavy Metal and the bass drum and detuned bass guitar over power the guitars and vocals.
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When you're stating your thoughts, you should state at the minimum:
App you were using to play music
Beats on or off or other EQ etc...
What you were listening on
I want to know how it sounds when connected to a car or home theater system. My thunderbolt sounds just fine with headphones but connect it to a car or HT system and there is quite a bit of hiss included with the audio. This has persisted over multiple roms, kernels, and apps. I imagine the hiss is still there with headphones as well but the volume is less when using headphones. When connected to an external amplifier, the volume is maxed just to get a reasonable signal to the other device.
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I had a thunderbolt before this and I hook my phone up through AUX input in my truck EVERY time I drive it. The quality of sound that comes from the rezound is light years ahead of my thunderbolt. Like its a night and day difference, even in pandora the sound quality is WAYYYYYYYYYYY better. I never had the hiss you speak of but I the sound was just super low compared to this phone. Yesterday we had my phone and an iphone4 hooked up through the AUX port in 2 different cars and it didn't matter what we played it sounded better on mine. I will say that the other two guys with me preferred the Power amp app over the stock music player with beats.
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'call quality' is comparable to the Incredible 2(and definitely better then the Thunderbolt), especially when using Skype.
'sound quality', not really an improvement per se, just they add in a custom 'Beats' EQ to the stock player to try and awe people.
all beats is is a custom EQ setting with more emphasis on lows + you can't even adjust the EQ to your liking. the headphones are ok for being throw ins, but the Bose headphones for around the same price have a bit better clarity and the bass response is a bit better to(just that the dres hit a tad harder).
I'm not trying to put down the phone(heck I bought one) or anything... it does have a really nice screen and performs slightly better then an overclocked Thunderbolt(probably due to Google doing a poor job with the dual-core architecture).... but if you bought/want this phone just because of the whole "Beats By Dre" bit, then you've been had sucka!
p.s. btw, the one thing Apple has done with pure excellence is iphone/ipod EQ. probably the best out there period.
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To be honest I don't care much about call quality. I hate talking on the phone.
I just figured marketing this phone with beats and audio and packing in decent head phones they may have used some nice hardware as well. I'd love to see a total teardown and chip li st.
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Is there any way to get beats audio to work on our phones.
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No, next time search
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No, and there's no point to beatsoff audio. It's nothing but marketing hype with no real actual technical benefits. It's nothing but a stupid equalizer preset.
I now regard Beats as being even worse than Monster in terms of overhyping ripoff artists. Even Bose at least has SOME technical merit even though nearly all of their products are significantly overhyped and overpriced.
LOL this question always getting asked. I still love how just cause they got a artist to say that the headphones were good they are regarded for good sounding headphones. Beats headphones are poor quality overpriced headphones.
- From an owner of real headphones.
Lol.. they are def overpriced but do they sound like crap- no. Not at all. I haven't had a TON of headphones before but I've use Bose and skull candy and many cheap headphones, the Beats sound better than all of them. Of coarse that's my personal opinion.. but I consider myself someone that is a bit picky.. but non the less they sound good regardless of the what else is out there or the over marked price tag. And I thought monster cable was a quality stereo cable.. not cheap crap?!
Before everyone starts hating on my post I'm just making a point that the headphones are decent and they DO sound good- despite what all the haters say. After all, haters gonna hate that's the point
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That's because those aren't good headphones (Bose...). Get a $40 pair of Sennheisers, problem solved.
Beats is just oversaturated bass. Headphones selling for $300 when it should be at most half of that.
Same as Monster. It's a marketing ploy.
Yup... Senns, Shures - go with a proper regarded brand, you'll get FAR more for your money.
Beats may sound better than the cheaper Skullcandies - but NOT enough to justify the delta in price.
My personal opinions:
Budget with good "bang for your buck" - Skullcandy Titans (or others with 11mm drivers) combined with Comply foam eartips
Beyond that, I'd say: Sennheiser, Shure, or for those with money to blow, Etymotics. Audio-Technica has a few decent items, I've been tempted by their active noise cancelling circumaurals for a while. Their microphones are the best budget ones I've used. (They're probably not the best out there - but the best in the sub-$100 camcorder stereo mic range until you go into standalone units like the Zoom H1/H2/H4n)
However, under no circumstances are Beats worth the exorbitant price.
Totally agree with that. They are way over priced.. but they do sound better than some other ear buds I've bought and paid $40/$50 for..
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Senns seem the best for me but pricewise since I lose headphones ask the time skull candy are rather good for their price.
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Well, Bose is overpriced, but in terms of noise-cancellation, or at least as far as I've researched, they are on the most effective out there so they can price however they want. But yeah, Sennheiser and ATH dominates in terms of overall audio quality, build, comfort, etc. I guess excessive flight travellers might go with the Bose while others go with Sennheiser/ATH, and as for the Beats, you got to agree, some of them look really nice, so that can go to the richish flashy people, not necessarily looking to wear the ones with the best audio quality, but good nonetheless.
Me not wearing any underwear has better sound quality than BeatsAudio. Use voodoo plus.
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Me not wearing any underwear has better sound quality than BeatsAudio. Use voodoo plus.
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Lol. You crack me the eff up Task.
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I might be getting the htc one x, and if I do, I will try to find some way to turn it off. all I need are lossless audio files and my sennheiser ie8. dr dre can't improve that.
I use the skullcandy skull crushers and they have mini subs in them lol. I wouldn't wanna spend 300 bucks for worse bass.
I dont know what you guys are talking about....Beats audio headphones are great (way over priced) but great, i've produced music for over 6 years now so i can speak from experience.....as far as for the phone i wouldn't know, i'm sure it doesn't do **** to make the phone sound any better.
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I dont know what you guys are talking about....Beats audio headphones are great (way over priced) but great, i've produced music for over 6 years now so i can speak from experience.....as far as for the phone i wouldn't know, i'm sure it doesn't do **** to make the phone sound any better.
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The point is that they are overpriced and there are options which are FAR cheaper and match or exceed them in performance, such as units from Sennheiser or Shure.
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The point is that they are overpriced and there are options which are FAR cheaper and match or exceed them in performance, such as units from Sennheiser or Shure.
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Very true....
Brother had 2 different pairs, the solo and solo hd. Both sounded decent, but for what they cost they should sound a lot better than "decent". They mostly increased the low end of the spectrum muddling out any treble.
My skullcandy skullcrushers are pretty nice...
Every single pair of beats headphones I've ever seen on display have been broken. They feel like they're made of terrible plastic, and they don't sound nearly as good as other cans in their price range. I'll also take IEMs over cans any day, but that's just me. Etymotics ftw
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I have been testing a bunch of different headphones and earbuds lately and will answer in a completely unbiased way any questions posters may have about any of the setups.
I have been doing extensive listening with all these different setups lately.*
To tell what kind of listener I am, I was in the high end/audiophile *stereo business for over 10 years. I also sold/installed competition grade car audio.
I have a fairly musical ear from all that, but I am absolutely NOT an audiophile. *I am no different than a good majority of posters in that I like loud rock music with plenty of bass and a bright high end. *I am NOT looking for the most accurate sound (that is boring to me), I want my headphones to ROCK. *I used to sell $4000 electrostatic speakers and when I listened to them I always wanted to crank up the bass and treble, it drove the "true audiophiles" crazy LOL
I have tested and own:
Headphones:
1. V-Moda Crossfade
2. Bose QC 15
3. Beats Studio
4. Beats Solo
Earbuds:
5. *stock Rezound ibeats
6. Beats Tour
7. Ultimate Ears TripleFi
8. Kicker (don't know the model, they came free with some car speakers)
9. Senheiser CX300 ll
10. Etymotic ER-4 Micro-Pro
Right now, my daily driver at work are the Bose QCs but it's not because I am overly impressed with the sound (I'm not). *The battery powered sound isolation in the QCs is absolutely amazing and I work in a noisy environment. *This is great for me, but my son says the sound isolation feature makes him nauseous so they are not for everyone. They are also very light and comfortable (but the build quality sucks for the price, they remind me of the build of a galaxy nexus)so I can wear them all day.
My favorite headphone sound wise are the beats studio (which also use battery sound isolation but it is not even close to as effective as the QCs) although they are overpriced. *I got them from the monster outlet store for $199 and the site said they where "refurbs" but they sent me a brand new pair in a sealed box. *The studios have much stronger bass than the Bose and it doesn't break up when i push the volume like the Bose do. *I tried to wear the Studios for work, but they are a lot heavier than the Bose and gave me a headache after a few hours.
I like the beats tour a LOT, *they are much better than the ibeats and are also available in the monster refurb store.
The TripleFi's are awesome (as well they should be for the price), the senheiser sound absolutely amazing for the $30 price.
The Etymotics are much too accurate for me and I hate them and they are really expensive.
The V-Moda are a great deal for the $100 eBay price, sound really good and are very comfortable. They sound a little "hollow" at times, but I don't object to it.
The beats solo are $200 and they sound awful to me plus they hurt my ears after a while.
I recently sold a pair of Klipsch M40s also, I thought they where much too heavy and way overpriced.
Think you should check out nuforce. Their earbuds are 70 $ and destroy all of what you have listed.
I much rather listen to my B&W P5s but I didn't like B&W's earbuds so I got the nuforce.
Also...$4000 dollar electrostats are not audiophile grade. Not even close. I to work in high end audio, and you start hitting audiophile grade electrostatics at 13K or so.
Plus, your never going to get car fi bass outta a two channel stereo setup for what you said, it is accurate and real sound.
I am guessing you never go to concerts? You wouldn't like those either because they are to accurate lol.
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Think you should check out nuforce. Their earbuds are 70 $ and destroy all of what you have listed.
I much rather listen to my B&W P5s but I didn't like B&W's earbuds so I got the nuforce.
Also...$4000 dollar electrostats are not audiophile grade. Not even close. I to work in high end audio, and you start hitting audiophile grade electrostatics
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No argument from me about the nuforce, I have a set of NE-700x sitting right here but haven't really had a chance to check them out yet.
I agree that $4000 is certainly at the low end for electrostatics, but we didn't stock the higher priced models -those where just a demo set.
I am not in the business anymore, but I was the top B & W dealer in our area for a few years.
Where is your business??
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No argument from me about the nuforce, I have a set of NE-700x sitting right here but haven't really had a chance to check them out yet.
I agree that $4000 is certainly at the low end for electrostatics, but we didn't stock the higher priced models -those where just a demo set.
I am not in the business anymore, but I was the top B & W dealer in our area for a few years.
Where is your business??
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I actually work for a Magnolia Home Theater right now in cincinnati. One of the few salesmen who hasn't been corrupted by best buy yet. Trying to leave for that reason. Best buy has been ruining everything they touch.
We are the only B&W dealer in like 100 miles. The other company that was, started discounting B&W to steal our sales and B&W found out and pulled all their products from them.
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I don't have enough experience with headphones as I used Skull Candy buds in the past which sounded ok to me and were cheap (which is why they don't last long) so these headphones are my first set of quality buds.
I would like something with a bit better sound, however, I would like to also maintain the buttons which are useful on my long commute to/from work. Do any of the buds you have used maintain the use of the buttons?
Rezound ibeats plugged into an Beats Audio HP laptop with tweaked settings. Beyond amazing! If only I could get the same beats quality sound from my laptop on my Rezound. Beats on Rezound arent as good.
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The beats tour do, but like most buds they are set up for an iPod/iPhone. (same with all the headphones Listed)
I use an app called "headset button controller" to make the control compatible with Android.
as far as just listening to music(no mic) goes, i have these Sony sport earbuds i got from Best Buy for like $45 - $50... model #: MDRAS40EX.
they have about as much bass as the beats + sound cleaner. i got them because the beats kept falling out of my ears when i was working out. i don't have that problem anymore.
LOL, that's quite a sig you got there bro.........
I use a $20 set of Skullcandy buds.
The Beats headphones that come with the phone sound pretty good, but ergonomically they are complete crap. Too long and too heavy, they simply will not stay put in your ear, and as soon as they shift out of position even slightly, the bass and sound quality go to ****.
Because of the weight and length, they get a ton of leverage and unless you are sitting perfectly still, they work their way loose no matter what cushions I use. And they are too long to fit inside a helmet, so I got a set of Skullcandy buds and they sound almost as good, and they stay put and work really well inside a motorcycle helmet.
Yea, inside a motorcycle helmet presents a whole new set of problems.
I have ridden a motorcycle for years (& I owned a biker bar for 20 years) so I know all about that.
The Senheiser & the Kicker buds I have work fine under a helmet, others like the Ultimate Ears or the Beats Tour definitely do not.
EDIT: if you think the ibeats are too long, you sure don't want to try the Beats Tour -those are like twice as long...LOL
I just recently have been trying to use the stock ibeats for when at the gym and I can tell you that they just don't work for me. I can't seem to find the right fitment so they are always falling out.
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I know a lot of audiophiles absolutely hate Bose, but I've got a pair of IE2s, and I personally think they're the best headphones I've ever used. The ear pieces do not come out, and they're comfortable, so that's a plus.
They're extremely clear and they handle the bass really well. (although probably not as well as a pair of Beats.)
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Right, they all hate Beats/Monster stuff too.
It is the hip/sophisticated snob attitute to say that kind of stuff.
The fact is Bose & Beats stuff put out exactly the kind of sound a lot of normal guys (not audiophiles) really like. I love the sound of my Beats Studio headphones. Are they accurate?? Absolutely not, they have too much bass & the high end is too bright but that is exactly what I like about them.
The high end Klipsch cans I had ($350 a pair) where more accurate for sure, but I sold them because I like the Beats better.
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I just recently have been trying to use the stock ibeats for when at the gym and I can tell you that they just don't work for me. I can't seem to find the right fitment so they are always falling out.
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That is a problem with a lot of earbuds.
My UltimateEars TripleFi solve that problem although they are expensive. The UEs have a stiff bendable wire section of the cord right after the ear part. That wire can be bent to wrap around the back of your ear & hold the buds so there is NO WAY they can fall out.
One thing I have found out lately is what a HUGE difference in the sound a different set of ear tips can make. I must have gone thru 12 different sets of tips on the UEs thinking the whole time that "these things don't really sound all that great especially for the price".
Then, I tried a set of Moster gel tips that just happen to also fit the UEs & all of a sudden it was "WOW, these things sound absolutely awesome"
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Right, they all hate Beats/Monster stuff too.
It is the hip/sophisticated snob attitute to say that kind of stuff.
The fact is Bose & Beats stuff put out exactly the kind of sound a lot of normal guys (not audiophiles) really like. I love the sound of my Beats Studio headphones. Are they accurate?? Absolutely not, they have too much bass & the high end is too bright but that is exactly what I like about them.
The high end Klipsch cans I had ($350 a pair) where more accurate for sure, but I sold them because I like the Beats better.
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I completely agree. Most people fail to realize that audio is subjective, and "if you don't like what I like, you're wrong."
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I completely agree. Most people fail to realize that audio is subjective, and "if you don't like what I like, you're wrong."
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It's a lot more objective than you claim. It's more like "The further you get away from the sound coming from the monitors when the final mix was made, the more you're wrong."
Just sayin' - I know some people simply don't care about what the artist intended to be heard. But then again, there are the Enid Lumley's, who say they can hear a difference in the sound when they point a flashlight at the speaker.
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It's a lot more objective than you claim. It's more like "The further you get away from the sound coming from the monitors when the final mix was made, the more you're wrong."
Just sayin' - I know some people simply don't care about what the artist intended to be heard. But then again, there are the Enid Lumley's, who say they can hear a difference in the sound when they point a flashlight at the speaker.
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My point was that what headphones sound good to one person don't sound good to another. Whether the artist intended for you to max out the bass when you listen to their music doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. It's the same reason why people like band A but dislike band B.
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Whether the artist intended for you to max out the bass when you listen to their music doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong..
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Whoosh.
If the artist wanted more bass, they'd put it on the recording, not expect it to be added in playback.
Seriously...I want USB audio support for my damn phone already... Do I really have to sell my galaxy note, and get a damn iphone for this feature that should've been here YEARS AGO?
Our phones have the worst DSP/DAC ever...
Every post I have seen of yours has just been *****ing and moaning about this phone... not once have I seen a productive/informative/helpful post from you.
why don't you just sell it already and go back to drinking apple koolaid then?
LOL
Why not just use a 3.5 mm aux wire for music and leave the usb for charging in the car? Problem solved. Although, you would have to change tracks on the phone instead of the car's head unit. There are requests to google since a year ago, we might see it in Jellybean.
I agree, *****ing and moaning wont do much. If you cant stand having this device, sell it and get something else.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
go bluetooth bro. it works awesomely
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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To answer the subject line, it hasn't been coded yet.
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I have the same issues with the phone as you. There are things I love about the iPhone and there are things I love about the Note. The Note wins for now.
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Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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Since Google wont code it, Your only option now is to get an iPhone. Best of Luck to ya.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/droid/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
Besides a DIY project, may try the MHL-microHDMI link to and audio input. Most manufacturers don't seem interested in making anything but apple's 30pin audio components. My Pioneer Dual Din Bluetooth Car Stereo has a USB out the works with Note. Have to use the phone to control it though.
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Sell it and shut the effin up already and quit wasting space on this forum
I love my Note, but I keep an old ipod permanently connected in my car just for music. And I have my old iphone 3G, which is only worth $50 at best, is attached to my hi-fi system at home.
Who says you have to do everything with one device? If the Note doesn't do what you want, keep your note and buy something else to do the other job. Just my $0.02.
i'm no genius - but doesn't the MHL adapter provide HDMI audio out?
wouldn't that imply that you CAN get HiFi audio out to your AVR or amp ?
then again, what do i know
If you are this anal about high end sound use store bought CDs. That or a record player and you won't need a DAC.
I love audio way more than anyone I know and I stream blue tooth audio from my phone.. Is it the best sound? No but it gets the job done. If you want high end you need to right equipment. Sadly the Galaxy note doesn't currently have the ability to do this.
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What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
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What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
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How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out.
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Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem.
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TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
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It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
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I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different shaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
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I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
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Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
c0reyl said:
It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different chaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
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Your e-penis is mighty!
So they came today!
I literally went to the registration site at 12:03 (17/10) and put in my phone and supplier details. Got confirmation of the freebies and they have arrived.
Not bad for a 14 day cooling off period.
Ok time for some hard truth.
I'll tell you why they are giving these things away.. It's because they don't really give you higher than 44khz well at least that's what I'm getting from the Dev BT debug info. which keeps reverting to 44khz 16bit.
They DO sit very snug though almost feel like you're wearing nothing. If they could shrink these down to just sit in your ear canal without the extra hardware then that would be something.
AAC @ 44100 which I'm guessing the AAC makes up for in the highs and lows.
I can't force the audio quality to go any better than this. I've tried just setting up to only 2 Bluetooth audio devices but doesn't seem to make this any better.
That being said the quality of the audio is a factor. Find some HQ dolby atmos audio demos and you might be able to apreciate these. You need HQ audio files and not MP3
The Audio is very good don't get me wrong but if you are expecting to get 96Khz at 32bits out of these then forget it.
So Dolby Atmos it is then.
DSEE HX is only for Wired Headphones.
Stick with Wired Headphones if you want true high fidelity. I'll keep you posted once I start walking around with these outside (praying not to get mugged for wearing these) to see just how good the noise cancellation is. Seems to overcompensate in a quiet room so you just need to turn this off or down otherwise you'll hear noise.
and the most no go at this set is u can't change the volume at the speakers....u always have to take out your cell phone and change volume with the phone only
I don't use nc on mine. Or ambient. I crank em up anyway.
I use mine everyday for walking the dog, had em some time. I will say, for my small ears, I surely feel wearing them when walking. And need from time to time to resnug em in, not that I'm afraid I'll loose one, I just loose snugness. This I'll compensate by wearing a beanie. No issues then.
I'll guess, this would eliminate the chances of being muged. Even though, not even worth stealing imo. Way to expensive, to what it is. So being a thief for this, is stupid. ????? So the question is, who would mug you?? Lol whoever must be stupid. ?
What did you pay for the bundle?
In Denmark it was 3336,- Dkk / 495,- US / 445,- EUR with carrier deal ofc. Phone Xperia now alone is stunning 830,- US in Denmark, with a following 300,- us wf 1000 mx3 that's 1100,-+ us. Wtf. Pretty glad got it all for under 500
One of few. Comes from Japan.
DanielMode said:
and the most no go at this set is u can't change the volume at the speakers....u always have to take out your cell phone and change volume with the phone only
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Well u don't have to take it out, as button layout is pretty easy,even in case and through pocket. This is one of my least concerns. Why on Earth no LDAC codec for bt. As is Sony's own standard. Hi-res? They got the apple part. And released a Android. Makes sense. On the other hand. The mh version, as this is supposed to mimic, is oem but is far superior, and nothing alike to this iem. With a similar pricetag. I'll even go to my 950n'1s if it came to features. And real life buttons, no touch. Volume controll is the least missing. ? And I'll actually prefer em to my mh, I'd admit, imma basehead, the 950's for oem
Wired I'd use my ah-d7100 but then I gotta carry a dual set fiio combo besides. They are mostly just for looks at the desk. Lol
And I can only use the left one alone. Unless I start paring both. Besides. If I leave on the table, yes I'm like that, don't really care, then the left one will shut off, in 5 min, as supposed if not wearing. The right one will stay alive till draind. Is this just here?
They a supposed to connect to the box, and to what ever. Problem is, I think, they do not. As I can easily leave my case behind.
Sony broke their own codec this time around. ? It was a bundle. ??
No LDAC/ no hi-res
No auto shutoff
No individual listening.
To heavy if not dumbo the elephant
To expensive
Not even starting on the phone it self, ****less fpc. No impressive sound. Dolby atmos. Right. No dark mode on pie??? Like Huawei???? So it continues. Unfortunately.
You can get around. Sure. But it's surely not otb
Still might overall be the best iem nc bt. Or they are. So much room for improvement.
But all this before Volume controll. Hi-res listner has an amp. You'll never controll unless its by hand. ??
But all together, top tier for what's possible, and do count on like 100hours Play in.
Why hate. Sony is true underdog, but not for any fun.
These headphones are some of the best i've ever used. The noise cancelling works great. They don't seem to be suited for heavy music, like Metal, but i haven't played with the EQ yet. But listening to something like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan they sound amazing. They play every detail.
I highly recommend these, good for office use if you want to disconnect from your surroundings for a while.
pookiethebear said:
These headphones are some of the best i've ever used. The noise cancelling works great. They don't seem to be suited for heavy music, like Metal, but i haven't played with the EQ yet. But listening to something like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan they sound amazing. They play every detail.
I highly recommend these, good for office use if you want to disconnect from your surroundings for a while.
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Surprised to hear that. I find the sound quality underwhelming. Even my old HTC wired earphone sounds better.
I bought it for the noise cancelling though.
maybe not the best but I'm pretty satisfied with this headset,especially the durability of the battery
davidletterboyz said:
Surprised to hear that. I find the sound quality underwhelming. Even my old HTC wired earphone sounds better.
I bought it for the noise cancelling though.
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Sound reproduction is a personal thing however I sincerley fail to see how you find these "Underwelming" I have been buying high end hifi for nearly 50 years and can safely write the Sony's are outstanding and only 'bettered' by the much more expensive Sennheisers. Wired headphones are in a different catagory all together from wirelss. unwise to compare apples with oranges.