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There are a fair few good deals on the S2 now that the Nexus is out with Android ICS, but how good is the ICS port over to the S2? Any bugs or flaws?
I am contemplating getting this phone for my girlfriend who isn't very tech savvy hence ICS would need to work flawlessly on the device .
Ics is not ready yet for this device there only at the alpha stage try again in 4months for a stable one or use the ics theme from the market
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Samsung has said "official" ICS firmware for SGS2 will be released "some time in Q1 2012". So far as other roms go, you should start seeing ICS ports over the next few weeks.
So far as functionality goes, I'd be surprised if these don't go thru the normal "teething problems" roms & kernels tend to go thru, and given your girlfriend isn't "tech savvy" and the device would need to work "flawlessly", I'd recommend you wait until Samsung releases official firmware rather than use a custom ICS port.
Unless you want to spend a lot of time playing tech support ?
EViS said:
There are a fair few good deals on the S2 now that the Nexus is out with Android ICS, but how good is the ICS port over to the S2? Any bugs or flaws?
I am contemplating getting this phone for my girlfriend who isn't very tech savvy hence ICS would need to work flawlessly on the device .
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EViS said:
There are a fair few good deals on the S2 now that the Nexus is out with Android ICS, but how good is the ICS port over to the S2? Any bugs or flaws?
I am contemplating getting this phone for my girlfriend who isn't very tech savvy hence ICS would need to work flawlessly on the device .
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If it's a phone for your non-tech girl I would not worry about Gingerbread or ICS, I would worry about Touchwiz, Sense or whatever skin is out there and select your phone accordingly.
Getting into buggy beta ICS or non compatible apps or widgets that act weird is the killer, it just has to work and look nice. Gingerbread is good for that.
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Samsung has said "official" ICS firmware for SGS2 will be released "some time in Q1 2012". So far as other roms go, you should start seeing ICS ports over the next few weeks.
So far as functionality goes, I'd be surprised if these don't go thru the normal "teething problems" roms & kernels tend to go thru, and given your girlfriend isn't "tech savvy" and the device would need to work "flawlessly", I'd recommend you wait until Samsung releases official firmware rather than use a custom ICS port.
Unless you want to spend a lot of time playing tech support ?
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Oh well this would be good. Where have they stated this? I can't see it happening personally, what's the benefit to them?
All over the world's tech media recently. Been living under a rock have we ?
EViS said:
Oh well this would be good. Where have they stated this? I can't see it happening personally, what's the benefit to them?
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READ THE FORUMS CAUSE THATS WHY THEY ARE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
/cruise control
EViS said:
Oh well this would be good. Where have they stated this? I can't see it happening personally, what's the benefit to them?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401673
I guess the Galaxy S2 isn't getting an official ICS afterall. News here.
EViS said:
I guess the Galaxy S2 isn't getting an official ICS afterall. News here.
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dude ... u got the ability to read right?? read the article:
So far, Samsung only guarantees Ice Cream Sandwich for its Galaxy S II phones.
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Samsung is working on it, thus there have been a couple leaks. They are still marketing the galaxy s2 so the benefit to a quick update being available would be that they can continue to sell their flagship phone.
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i am resurecting this thread as i literally just ordered the S2 for my wife(i have the S3 for me), so im wondering if the phones are actually coming now with the ICS already preinstalled, or will i have to connect it to kies to do it once we get it for the first time?
thanks
vasp3690 said:
i am resurecting this thread as i literally just ordered the S2 for my wife(i have the S3 for me), so im wondering if the phones are actually coming now with the ICS already preinstalled, or will i have to connect it to kies to do it once we get it for the first time?
thanks
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No one will be able to answer this with any certainty, as it depends on what lot the phone was manufactured in and gotten ready for sale. If it came to the retailer with GB preinstalled, it will get sold with GB installed. If it came with ICS preinstalled, it will get sold with ICS installed.
It's not like retailers open up boxes they already have and upgrade the handset to ICS.
Are there any phones being sold at the moment with anything less than ics?
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I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
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I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
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Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
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Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
koe1974 said:
Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
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Agree. There's already a thousand threads about what's new with ICS (and OPs that didn't do their own research).
So here's my addition:
ICS will not get you laid.
ICS will not cool you off on a hot day.
I'm waiting ICS beacause it will bring native support to VPN connections with Group Authentication, that now is impossible to use with Honeycomb..
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Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
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Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
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ICS Will not convince your mother in law that S-Voice is NOT siri on android
ICS is never;
- gonna give you up
- gonna let you down
- gonna turn around and hurt you
ICS will never say "die"
ICS will never get you brownie points
I love this thread.
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
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don't get me wrong. I brought a galaxy tab 10.1 on the day it was released in nyc, and am presently a happy owner of a tab 8.9
Just HC had a lot of bugs and fcs in its initial release, though the most current Touchwiz based on HC 3.2 is definately more stable. But of course, by now, I've blissfully moved on to aokp ICS custom rom, and naturally feel no urge to return to HC. I m sure when you upgrade to ICS after sammy releases the official version this month, you'll not want to return either.
ICS can never match Klondike Bars
ICS Will never get rid of chart stains in your undies
Ditto
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Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
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Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
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Also? Did you read the thread?
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
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Only cuz its a way better OS.. Best Google's work so far and it's really awesome.. Now if you want to stay with hc no1 is forcing you to do so..
It's just a dumb question IMHO.. If you have a 4 cylinders engine Chevy and out of nowhere Chevy calls you and tells to you that they want to replace your old engine for a brand new 8 cylinders engine FOR FREE, will you stay with the old 4 cylinders (that works ok but some times need oil) or will you be HAPPY and go get your new engine??
Again it's up to you to stay with your old engine or go get the new 1.. But consider yourself a dork If you don't change because you are okay with the old.
Nexus Cm9 + Franco
ICS will not be televised.
I was wondering if our beloved Galaxy S2 will receive Android 4.1 Jellybean officially? I'm pretty sure it will be available through Cyanogenmod or whoever, but will it also be a Kies update, and if so, is it gonna take all the carriers ages to implement it? Personally I'm always on one of the neweste CM Nightly builds and I've no complaints, it just works, which is kindof what I want the phone to do. I saw a youtube video of ICS vs Jellybean in terms of laggines, "Project Butter" aims to make the whole Android experience smoother and faster. What I'd like to know is if our now aging Exynos SOC supports all the things their putting into the OS, for example their doing Vsync and tripple buffering. All I know about those is that I enable them in games, no real idea what they actually do. Is it as simple as a software upgrade or must the hardware first support is?
Ask Samsung.
Yes it might come next year! But frankly I think 4.04 will be last.
No, no 4.0.4 neither
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731836&highlight=4+0+4
sikuland said:
No, no 4.0.4 neither
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731836&highlight=4+0+4
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You believe that?.... The source is not reliable at all.
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Can't we get Jellybean for our Galaxy S2 this year?
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Dhanaiah
I don't see a point in Vsync. I've yet to see a game uncorrectly display an image.
Since triple-buffering is new, I guess our phone has double. I would like triple, and have it as smooth and as fast as the iPhone, but I don't want to lower my battery life on it. Plus I'd expect overheating since it takes two pieces of hardware to process am image.
"When it launches in mid-July, Jelly Bean will be available for the Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Samsung Galaxy S2. "
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/06/28/android-jelly-bean-to-streamline-updates-for-all/
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"When it launches in mid-July, Jelly Bean will be available for the Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Samsung Galaxy S2. "
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/06/28/android-jelly-bean-to-streamline-updates-for-all/
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Wow i hope it will be true..can't wait for jelly bean..
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"When it launches in mid-July, Jelly Bean will be available for the Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Samsung Galaxy S2. "
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Random blog no-one's heard of makes a claim without mention of source? Excellent. Sounds like all the evidence needed.
if we get jellybean, i just hope they fix most of the bugs and atleast optimize the battery :\
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Random blog no-one's heard of makes a claim without mention of source? Excellent. Sounds like all the evidence needed.
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Don't lose hope my friend
More detailed information from GSM Arena:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_announces_android_41_jelly_bean-news-4451.php
I saw this as well:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/357404/20120628/android-jelly-bean-galaxy-s3-htc-one.htm
Soon
Just wait for the next CM-rom, then we will get the great taste of jellybean!
FYI, there is a discussion thread about JB that has been open in the General section since yesterday here. (making this thread superfluous)
I'm pretty sure we will get 4.1 because if Galaxy Nexus S will get this.. Why shouldn't we get this? :victory:
i think we may get 4.0.4 but i verry much doubt that we will get jb
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FYI, there is a discussion thread about JB that has been open in the General section since yesterday here. (making this thread superfluous)
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I wouldn't say this thread is entirely superfluous; here the discussion is focused solely on whether or not the Galaxy S2 will get JB, while the other thread also includes comments on the features of it.
If you came looking to find out if/when we were getting it, where do you think you would find the answer more quickly?
TWeaKoR said:
I wouldn't say this thread is entirely superfluous; here the discussion is focused solely on whether or not the Galaxy S2 will get JB, while the other thread also includes comments on the features of it.
If you came looking to find out if/when we were getting it, where do you think you would find the answer more quickly?
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From Samsung, actually.
It look like we might get 4.2.1 for the note. i know it not the I717 but if they get the update to it i think we will too.
"Just because use the Samsung GALAXY Note II just about out specs the original in every way doesn't mean that no one loves the poor Samsung GALAXY Note. In fact, Android 4.2.1 has leaked for the 5 incher and software version N7000XXLSA happens to be the first Jelly Bean update ever leaked for the device. So far, Samsung hasn't included much S-Pen functionality with the Jelly Bean source code, something that is sure to be addressed before the software update becomes official.
It should be noted that unlike the N7000XXLSA leak revealed by Xda, which came from a dump of a person's device, a source for SamMobile says that the version of the update that we are discussing came right from Samsung's servers. All you need to do is flash the update with Odin and you're updated. Again, the issue with the S-Pen would concern us a little and you might want to wait for the official OTA update which is supposed to arrive late this year or early next year.
Among the cool changes included with the update are Project Butter (or is it "I can't believe it's not Project Butter?"), Multiwindows, customized notification panel, Pop-up Play, Smart Rotation and Google Now."
killer5000 said:
It look like we might get 4.2.1 for the note. i know it not the I717 but if they get the update to it i think we will too.
"Just because use the Samsung GALAXY Note II just about out specs the original in every way doesn't mean that no one loves the poor Samsung GALAXY Note. In fact, Android 4.2.1 has leaked for the 5 incher and software version N7000XXLSA happens to be the first Jelly Bean update ever leaked for the device. So far, Samsung hasn't included much S-Pen functionality with the Jelly Bean source code, something that is sure to be addressed before the software update becomes official.
It should be noted that unlike the N7000XXLSA leak revealed by Xda, which came from a dump of a person's device, a source for SamMobile says that the version of the update that we are discussing came right from Samsung's servers. All you need to do is flash the update with Odin and you're updated. Again, the issue with the S-Pen would concern us a little and you might want to wait for the official OTA update which is supposed to arrive late this year or early next year.
Among the cool changes included with the update are Project Butter (or is it "I can't believe it's not Project Butter?"), Multiwindows, customized notification panel, Pop-up Play, Smart Rotation and Google Now."
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1000 post on same topic of" we could get it cuz international did"
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kornklown69 said:
1000 post on same topic of" we could get it cuz international did"
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That was a TypeO they meant 4.1.2 and also only for N7000 not I717
So this is one of the very first results that comes up when you search verizon galaxy note 2 on google.
I am considering getting the note 2 on verizon soon and I was wondering how the experience differs from the other carriers.. I heard the multi window supports fewer apps on verizon, and MANY other important features are said to be missing in the comments.
Does the development community have any solutions or ROMs that puts VZW on equal footing with the other carriers? The coverage and speed are obviously better on vzw, but just trying to be thorough and it's hard to tell without having the phone in hand.
Yes. With root and unlock it's on pretty much equal footing with everyone on software. Equal with Sprint on hardware as there's no wireless charging - unless you cut holes for the contacts in the plastic backing on top of the mobo.
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So this is one of the very first results that comes up when you search verizon galaxy note 2 on google.
I am considering getting the note 2 on verizon soon and I was wondering how the experience differs from the other carriers.. I heard the multi window supports fewer apps on verizon, and MANY other important features are said to be missing in the comments.
Does the development community have any solutions or ROMs that puts VZW on equal footing with the other carriers? The coverage and speed are obviously better on vzw, but just trying to be thorough and it's hard to tell without having the phone in hand.
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Welp, that's Verizon for ya. And I like how the thread was locked down. Smh Verizon.
Anyways, if you are planning on rooting your Note, there's a mod to have any app added to the Multi Window feature.
Here's a solid solution: Flash CleanROM 3.5, which is based on the International Android 4.1.2 base, which has a ton of features added that weren't originally on any Android 4.1.1 base from any carrier. On top of that, you get the Multi Window feature mod.
This is why we have a development community - so evil carriers like this don't completely shut us down and treat us like peasants.
I'd say the developers here have been GREAT! I haven't dabbled in other note 2 forums or the like but I'm using Clean Rom VZW 1.0 and just love it.
I don't see anything that i would want missing.
DroidOnRoids said:
Welp, that's Verizon for ya. And I like how the thread was locked down. Smh Verizon.
Anyways, if you are planning on rooting your Note, there's a mod to have any app added to the Multi Window feature.
Here's a solid solution: Flash CleanROM 3.5, which is based on the International Android 4.1.2 base, which has a ton of features added that weren't originally on any Android 4.1.1 base from any carrier. On top of that, you get the Multi Window feature mod.
This is why we have a development community - so evil carriers like this don't completely shut us down and treat us like peasants.
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Truth. Who knows how long it'll be before Verizon gets off their asses and sends out the 4.1.2 update to us.
Hell, I will bet money that things they took out of our phones that should have been stock, will be touted as being new features provided to us the peasants all thanks to Verizon Wireless. Ha... ha... ha..... Verizon you make me sad.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Truth. Who knows how long it'll be before Verizon gets off their asses and sends out the 4.1.2 update to us.
Hell, I will bet money that things they took out of our phones that should have been stock, will be touted as being new features provided to us the peasants all thanks to Verizon Wireless. Ha... ha... ha..... Verizon you make me sad.
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Wanna know why I haven't bothered with 4.1.2?
Because the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are stupidly minor.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 deep down brings nothing to the table for us. It might for touchwiz, but the actual base Android OS sees little improvement overall. As for Touchwiz, we already have some of the updates in 4.1.1 on our variant.
http://www.androidcentral.com/inter...-get-android-412-update-new-touchwiz-features
From the article:
The biggest changes seem to be focused around the top of the screen. The notification shade is now customizable, so if you're not a fan of extraneous toggles and brightness dials, you can turn them off. If you keep your notification shade quick-controls, you'll notice new additions such as the ability to toggle the multi-window feature on and off. The notification bar itself has also changed slightly, going from grey back to black. And the lock screen's been changed up a little, with a new, optional ink effect in the on-screen "pool" when unlocking the device.
Web browser performance improvements are also noted, although we've always found Samsung's stock browser to be pretty fast. And finally, there's also a new Group Cast app for sharing music and photos with other Samsung device owners.
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As you can see, we already have most of that (I highlighted it).
Back to 4.1.2:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...4-1-2-at-the-low-level-developer-commit-logs/
The only reason 4.1.2 was released is because it contained a mandatory software update for new Nexus 7 hardware revisions (dealing with power management hardware) and the new N7's releasing wouldn't run on 4.1.1. Otherwise, Google could have easily just waited until 4.2 with the changes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/
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So this is one of the very first results that comes up when you search verizon galaxy note 2 on google.
I am considering getting the note 2 on verizon soon and I was wondering how the experience differs from the other carriers.. I heard the multi window supports fewer apps on verizon, and MANY other important features are said to be missing in the comments.
Does the development community have any solutions or ROMs that puts VZW on equal footing with the other carriers? The coverage and speed are obviously better on vzw, but just trying to be thorough and it's hard to tell without having the phone in hand.
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I wouldn't say MANY. You have to look at other US Note 2 variants too. Tmobile and ATT didn't even ship with mulitwindow and are just now getting it. Welcome to the world of US carrier control.
Another placebo effect with 4.1.2.
As for the note 2 on verizon, once rooted/unlocked, its great.
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Another placebo effect with 4.1.2.
As for the note 2 on verizon, once rooted/unlocked, its great.
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Working with AOSP for a year, you get a really good feeling for just how much placebo is out there, when you get to see the nitty gritty in actual changes.
I miss my gnex. I don't miss its poor signal and battery life though.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 is crazy minor and has no noticeable effect to most people.
4.2 to 4.2.1 is another one, and pointless if you are CDMA and already fixed the contacts bug yourself.
Yet, on both of those updates, people saw miraculous changes in performance and stability
adrynalyne said:
Wanna know why I haven't bothered with 4.1.2?
Because the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are stupidly minor.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 deep down brings nothing to the table for us. It might for touchwiz, but the actual base Android OS sees little improvement overall .
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...4-1-2-at-the-low-level-developer-commit-logs/
The only reason 4.1.2 was released is because it contained a mandatory software update for new Nexus 7 hardware revisions (dealing with power management hardware) and the new N7's releasing wouldn't run on 4.1.1. Otherwise, Google could have easily just waited until 4.2 with the changes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/
I wouldn't say MANY. You have to look at other US Note 2 variants too. Tmobile and ATT didn't even ship with mulitwindow and are just now getting it. Welcome to the world of US carrier control.
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I guess you didn't read about how the update to AT&T/US Cellular Note 2s which included 4.1.2 also happened to fix the missing auto-correction in the Samsung keyboard, and 240p/480p flash videos display corruption.
Both are huge to me, and probably many other people (the keyboard one especially.)
Just because the update includes a bump in Android firmware doesn't mean that's what I'm looking forward to. So yes, it does matter and the sooner we get it the better. And my point about Verizon failing hard at updating devices (not just to change their build number) still stands.
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I guess you didn't read about how the update to AT&T/US Cellular Note 2s which included 4.1.2 also happened to fix the missing auto-correction in the Samsung keyboard, and 240p/480p flash videos display corruption.
Both are huge to me, and probably many other people (the keyboard one especially.)
Just because the update includes a bump in Android firmware doesn't mean that's what I'm looking forward to. So yes, it does matter and the sooner we get it the better. And my point about Verizon failing hard at updating devices (not just to change their build number) still stands.
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Flash isn't supported in Jellybean, so that is not something I am concerned with. As for the Samsung keyboard autocorrect, that again is pretty minor when you can sideload a superior-in-every-way keyboard.
Both of those are third party issues, and not worthy of an OS bump. That is my point. Its a minor (in every way) update. Yeah, Verizon sucks on updates, but people will whine about anything. You knew that going in, and hey, at least we saw multiwindow before ATT or Tmobile. Some of the touchwiz features we even saw before the International version.
Someone wake me when Samsung releases 4.2. Then I will be interested.
adrynalyne said:
Wanna know why I haven't bothered with 4.1.2?
Because the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are stupidly minor.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 deep down brings nothing to the table for us. It might for touchwiz, but the actual base Android OS sees little improvement overall. As for Touchwiz, we already have some of the updates in 4.1.1 on our variant.
http://www.androidcentral.com/inter...-get-android-412-update-new-touchwiz-features
From the article:
As you can see, we already have most of that (I highlighted it).
Back to 4.1.2:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...4-1-2-at-the-low-level-developer-commit-logs/
The only reason 4.1.2 was released is because it contained a mandatory software update for new Nexus 7 hardware revisions (dealing with power management hardware) and the new N7's releasing wouldn't run on 4.1.1. Otherwise, Google could have easily just waited until 4.2 with the changes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/
I wouldn't say MANY. You have to look at other US Note 2 variants too. Tmobile and ATT didn't even ship with mulitwindow and are just now getting it. Welcome to the world of US carrier control.
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are you able to multi-window any app in 4.1.2 on the note 2? On the 10.1 we have to be running 4.1.2 for the multi-window because of something that changed. On 4.1.1 you have to edit each app.
I don't know a lot about coding, but that is big for me. I know on the note 2, most custom ROMs have this ability already, but the dev section of the 10.1 is pretty lean at the moment. Guess all the devs got nexus 7's and 10's.
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are you able to multi-window any app in 4.1.2 on the note 2? On the 10.1 we have to be running 4.1.2 for the multi-window because of something that changed. On 4.1.1 you have to edit each app.
I don't know a lot about coding, but that is big for me. I know on the note 2, most custom ROMs have this ability already, but the dev section of the 10.1 is pretty lean at the moment. Guess all the devs got nexus 7's and 10's.
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Not even the international version can multiwindow any app without outside modification.
adrynalyne said:
Flash isn't supported in Jellybean, so that is not something I am concerned with. As for the Samsung keyboard autocorrect, that again is pretty minor when you can sideload a superior-in-every-way keyboard.
Both of those are third party issues, and not worthy of an OS bump. That is my point. Its a minor (in every way) update. Yeah, Verizon sucks on updates, but people will whine about anything. You knew that going in, and hey, at least we saw multiwindow before ATT or Tmobile. Some of the touchwiz features we even saw before the International version.
Someone wake me when Samsung releases 4.2. Then I will be interested.
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Damn man so pessimistic lol
I love that flash still works. And the fact that Samsung actually took the time to fix it in their update means they care too.
As for the keyboard, I enjoy my extra row of numbers and see nothing wrong with it. The only reason I use the stock AOSP 4.2 keyboard right now is because it has auto-correct working. Otherwise, yeah I'd be using that Touchwiz goodness.
I'm not interested in the bump to 4.1.2. **** I wish they would just hotfix these two minor things without lumping it into a firmware update so I could enjoy these fixes without waiting months for Verizon. Unfortunately it is what it is and there's no reason for you to be defending them. I mean really, what point are you trying to make? We know 4.1.2 doesn't do much of anything for us, it's just a lot easier for us to say "we're waiting for 4.1.2 update" rather than "we're waiting for the update that fixes x y and z"
Cool story bro?
adrynalyne said:
Not even the international version can multiwindow any app without outside modification.
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I know, but someone developed an app that allows you to choose which apps you want to multi-window, save, reboot and done. Most apps work.
nrfitchett4 said:
I know, but someone developed an app that allows you to choose which apps you want to multi-window, save, reboot and done. Most apps work.
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Right. But that is not due to 4.1.2.
That same app is in the development forum here.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Damn man so pessimistic lol
I love that flash still works. And the fact that Samsung actually took the time to fix it in their update means they care too.
As for the keyboard, I enjoy my extra row of numbers and see nothing wrong with it. The only reason I use the stock AOSP 4.2 keyboard right now is because it has auto-correct working. Otherwise, yeah I'd be using that Touchwiz goodness.
I'm not interested in the bump to 4.1.2. **** I wish they would just hotfix these two minor things without lumping it into a firmware update so I could enjoy these fixes without waiting months for Verizon. Unfortunately it is what it is and there's no reason for you to be defending them. I mean really, what point are you trying to make? We know 4.1.2 doesn't do much of anything for us, it's just a lot easier for us to say "we're waiting for 4.1.2 update" rather than "we're waiting for the update that fixes x y and z"
Cool story bro?
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Not so much as pessimistic, but a hardened Verizon veteran that has seen too many wars with them.
That and a year on the Galaxy Nexus has shown me that newer isn't always better, 4.2 is a train wreck. By the time we see it, I hope the issues are worked out.
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Right. But that is not due to 4.1.2.
That same app is in the development forum here.
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That app only works on 4.1.2, not 4.0.4 or 4.1.1. You can't even install the app on those firmwares. He says either google or Samsung added something to make adding multiwindow easier for devs.
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079807
Like I said, I don't understand the functions of it, just know that it works on 4.1.2 and nothing else.
adrynalyne said:
Not so much as pessimistic, but a hardened Verizon veteran that has seen too many wars with them.
That and a year on the Galaxy Nexus has shown me that newer isn't always better, 4.2 is a train wreck. By the time we see it, I hope the issues are worked out.
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Wait, you mean the 4.2 update to the Nexus phone that Verizon has yet to even put out? lawl gotta laugh. I've seen plenty of wars with Verizon myself but I see no reason to argue with users about why they should not look forward to fixes reaching their device, and the greedy ****s who slow that process down for them.
nrfitchett4 said:
That app only works on 4.1.2, not 4.0.4 or 4.1.1. You can't even install the app on those firmwares. He says either google or Samsung added something to make adding multiwindow easier for devs.
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079807
Like I said, I don't understand the functions of it, just know that it works on 4.1.2 and nothing else.
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Are we talking about the same thing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045974
Right at the top, it shows our 4.1.1 release as the supported version.
This guy was able to get it done. Not sure why the other guy couldn't.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Wait, you mean the 4.2 update to the Nexus phone that Verizon has yet to even put out? lawl gotta laugh. I've seen plenty of wars with Verizon myself but I see no reason to argue with users about why they should not look forward to fixes reaching their device, and the greedy ****s who slow that process down for them.
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Is there something wrong with 4.1.1. that you NEED an update once google updates? 4.2.1 is still broken. Why do you think sometimes there is a delay from when google pushes an update to when you see it. Its more then just Verizon. If verizon put out the 4.2.1. update now for the nexus people would be calling left and right saying that their phone is rebooting when updating apps from the market, especially when you modify the lock screen widgets. No way verizon would approve something still broken.