Walt Mossberg tests the Samsung Galaxy Note. says it's like talking into toast.
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Those two people sitting next to each other are VERY annoying.
A lifelong apple fanboy who worships Steve Jobs doesn't like an android phone, shocker!
Seriously, normal people buy a phone for its features. If you care what you look like holding the phone then you have larger psychological issues you need to work on.
EvoXOhio said:
A lifelong apple fanboy who worships Steve Jobs doesn't like an android phone, shocker!
Seriously, normal people buy a phone for its features. If you care what you look like holding the phone then you have larger psychological issues you need to work on.
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Hahaha I think the exact same thing when people complain about how they look with it by their head. I can't believe someone would care about that I personally don't think I'd honestly take that into consideration when making a purchase for a phone especially when the size gives it so many advantages.
Walt also smashed the Dell Streak in the same manner. Just remember he is from a time when microwaves and televisions were not a standard home accessory. Really an iPhone would seem great to someone who is just getting acclimated to technology.
Honestly, I don't think it's totally ridiculous to be concerned about how one looks talking on a phone. It's no different from caring how you dress or what accessories you wear--and make no mistake, a phone is an accessory just as much as a bracelet or necklace. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I do think I'd be a bit self-conscious if I were walking down the street and talking on my Note.
From my perspective, people on both sides are blowing the thing out of proportion. Like so many other things, it's just a matter of personal preference.
versus a deck of cards like iphone? I'll take the toast!
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Honestly, I don't think it's totally ridiculous to be concerned about how one looks talking on a phone. It's no different from caring how you dress or what accessories you wear--and make no mistake, a phone is an accessory just as much as a bracelet or necklace. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I do think I'd be a bit self-conscious if I were walking down the street and talking on my Note.
From my perspective, people on both sides are blowing the thing out of proportion. Like so many other things, it's just a matter of personal preference.
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And I completely understand your point and respect it I agree it comes down to the person but as for myself I really don't care what other people think. People where I live have to "have" the iPhone because it the "cool" phone to have and I expect to catch crap because of the notes size but personally I know that the phone will be very productive for myself as I have large hands making it very frustrating to use an iphone. But again back to personal preference all to their own I just personally will not conform to society and do as I please and what makes me happy and not care what some random person thinks. Personally I find things much easier that way.
teiglin said:
Honestly, I don't think it's totally ridiculous to be concerned about how one looks talking on a phone. It's no different from caring how you dress or what accessories you wear--and make no mistake, a phone is an accessory just as much as a bracelet or necklace. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I do think I'd be a bit self-conscious if I were walking down the street and talking on my Note.
From my perspective, people on both sides are blowing the thing out of proportion. Like so many other things, it's just a matter of personal preference.
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A phone is not a fashion accessory. If you think it is, you're doing it wrong.
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A phone is not a fashion accessory. If you think it is, you're doing it wrong.
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And enjoy your iphone! Lol
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And I completely understand your point and respect it I agree it comes down to the person but as for myself I really don't care what other people think. People where I live have to "have" the iPhone because it the "cool" phone to have and I expect to catch crap because of the notes size but personally I know that the phone will be very productive for myself as I have large hands making it very frustrating to use an iphone. But again back to personal preference all to their own I just personally will not conform to society and do as I please and what makes me happy and not care what some random person thinks. Personally I find things much easier that way.
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Yup, it's great for productivity and makes good use of large hands. Totally agree, it's not good to mind what other people think too much.
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A phone is not a fashion accessory. If you think it is, you're doing it wrong.
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Who ever said thoughtful discourse was dead?
You're kidding yourself if you think that people around you won't see you using your phone and make judgments based on it and its appearance. You don't have to care about those judgments, but they're happening either way, just as people form opinions based on what you're wearing. If nobody cared about how phones look, there wouldn't be a white Note or a purple RAZR, and I'm willing to bet there would also be fewer iPhones than there are now.
I'm not advocating choosing a phone based on its appearance alone, and I'm here because I preordered a Note for myself. Obviously a phone does a lot more than a jacket or a necklace and should be given commensurately more consideration. That doesn't mean everyone needs to shut their eyes, plug their ears, and shriek when presented with opinions that don't coincide with their own.
Yeah I'm going to feel self conscious when using it too, but really, who talks on their phone anymore anyway? If in my car, BT, if on my desk, spkr.
I don't get that many calls anyway.
I can't wait to gaze into that huge screen!
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Yayz, a new innovative super fail with the same crappy operating system. Apple, take your sorry excuse for a phone and shove it.
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
Blehh, iP5 will the the same old **** like iP4 and only thing is it'll be behind our 3vo as always. I'm so sick of iOS because it's fcking boring as hell that you can't do sh1t with it. I figured everything out in 5 minutes and that's all there is.
Droid, on the other hand...DAMN! is all I can say.
I'm sure that's just a sexy concept.
I will always admit that iPhone. Hardware is sexy. Well made and great feeling.
I hate the software. Its made too easy and in that loses way too much functionality. Closed system, and controlled by a fearful tyrant who is noe all about suing the competition rather than just making his **** better.
Source of photos?
Are We Not Phones?
We Are D3VO!
Are we not phones?!
3.DeE.V.O.!!
APPY Geek: http://goo.gl/5OXhI
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Looks like a door stop... And why in the 3d section
felacio said:
I'm sure that's just a sexy concept.
I will always admit that iPhone. Hardware is sexy. Well made and great feeling.
I hate the software. Its made too easy and in that loses way too much functionality. Closed system, and controlled by a fearful tyrant who is noe all about suing the competition rather than just making his **** better.
Source of photos?
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We Are D3VO!
Are we not phones?!
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If they are so well made then why do I see SO MANY OF THEM with broken screens... And Let me just say I worked for AT&T at one point. 90% of the people who bought the last iPhone were pissing and moaning about not getting signal. That's a piss poor design.
On a separate note... What's with their obsession with making such thin bezels? That will make putting a case on it somewhat of a challenge at some point... They already break easily enough as it is.
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If they are so well made then why do I see SO MANY OF THEM with broken screens... And Let me just say I worked for AT&T at one point. 90% of the people who bought the last iPhone were pissing and moaning about not getting signal. That's a piss poor design.
On a separate note... What's with their obsession with making such thin bezels? That will make putting a case on it somewhat of a challenge at some point... They already break easily enough as it is.
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Probably because SO MANY OF THEM are sold ...
But..yeah, you got me on the signal thing. Lol.
Verizon version doesn't really have that issue though.
Are We Not Phones?
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Are we not phones?!
3.DeE.V.O.!!
Introducing the Iphone AIR , Filled with Steve Jobs own a$$ gas . Order yours today and stand in lines for hours to get yours !
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Blehh, iP5 will the the same old **** like iP4 and only thing is it'll be behind our 3vo as always. I'm so sick of iOS because it's fcking boring as hell that you can't do sh1t with it. I figured everything out in 5 minutes and that's all there is.
Droid, on the other hand...DAMN! is all I can say.
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And that's why it wins most of the time, believe or not a lot people like easy things, that's why iPhone is famous, but we all diferent
To the Op the thing doesn't look appealing, i'm a iPhone user and like the iPhone 4 look way more, I don't believe it till apple announces the next iPhone
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
LOL Clark W. Griswold...
First off that's just a fake mockup.
Second off, why the **** does everybody have an issue with the iPhone? Them ****s are excellent phones and have great developer support and app quality is definitely better than any Market app out there when you compare equivalent apps. Especially when it comes to games(or the Android's lack of). Plus JBing solves a ****load of the "omg i can't customize so I'm gonna die" BS.
True Android can do a bunch of **** iOS can't, but you guys act like Jobs came over and personally did something wrong to you.
Grow up already.
1. thats ugly
2. that double-screened phone should have used those screen edges
and 3, the most, most, most important for my clumsy behind: a good, rugged, drop-me-in-water, drop-me-on-concrete, throw-me-through-the-wall-and-i-still-work phone case
lol
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First off that's just a fake mockup.
Second off, why the **** does everybody have an issue with the iPhone? Them ****s are excellent phones and have great developer support and app quality is definitely better than any Market app out there when you compare equivalent apps. Especially when it comes to games(or the Android's lack of). Plus JBing solves a ****load of the "omg i can't customize so I'm gonna die" BS.
True Android can do a bunch of **** iOS can't, but you guys act like Jobs came over and personally did something wrong to you.
Grow up already.
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You obviously don't know that Apple is suing the largest phone manufacturers.
He's trying to stop high-end Android phones from being imported into the US.
That's our beef with Steve Jobs.
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You obviously don't know that Apple is suing the largest phone manufacturers.
He's trying to stop high-end Android phones from being imported into the US.
That's our beef with Steve Jobs.
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Yeah I know about them, these types of disputes and lawsuits between big giants happen every day, it's a part of business. If Apple wins, then those manufacturers were at fault, if they don't win, then we see Apple was at fault.
If these imports are stopped, well sucks for those companies, I'm sorry to say that, even if I do love and enjoy their products. There's a reason they would have lost and the courts decide the outcome.
Plus this Apple hate has been going on way before that. No need to lash out hate every time someone mentions a damn iPhone. Apple started this ****, and others followed. Be thankful we have such awesome phones today, and it's because of Apple, whether people like to admit it or not.
wow, how the hell are cases going to fit on that?
Kiss Q & P goodbye.
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Jobs came over and personally did something wrong to you.
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He's trying to ban (not simply sue) every competing device on the market.
I respect how for its got us competitively, but as of today = screw him & his product.
I don't like my options being stepped on or tested against over a broken patent system. Hell even Apple is getting done in by it.
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He's trying to ban (not simply sue) every competing device on the market.
I respect how for its got us competitively, but as of today = screw him & his product.
I don't like my options being stepped on or tested against over a broken patent system. Hell even Apple is getting done in by it.
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Business as usual. This is what corporations do. Samsung is also trying to do the reverse.
At the end of the day, it will all be settled out of court and most probably won't affect us much, if at all. And I agree, its the broken patent system, which every damn company out there tries to take advantage of.
Apple also gets sued a lot as well. It's all about greed. Why let competitors infringe on your patents to make money off your stuff? That's their thinking.
As usual fake android fanboys hating on apple; when do you EVER hear people complain of hardware issues with iphones? Almost ****ing never, any iphone hardware issue is user error because they're probably a dumb ass. Software, who gives a **** about open or closed. That argument is stupid and you sound dumb for saying it. How is android so called open source but HTC never (or takes ages) to release source code or unlock their own bootloaders. Why does iphone have to be "open" for it to be great? Why be mad because apple rules with an iron fist and actually knows how to make a decent product? Im no where near an apple fan boy just technology lover who went through 4 evo 3D's due to hardware issues/defects. Not to mention i owned 3 evo 4G's because of light leakage; HTC got popluar made their money now their hardware is dog ****. The end
Oh yeah nice concept pics!
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As usual fake android fanboys hating on apple; when do you EVER hear people complain of hardware issues with iphones? Almost ****ing never, any iphone hardware issue is user error because they're probably a dumb ass. Software, who gives a **** about open or closed. That argument is stupid and you sound dumb for saying it. How is android so called open source but HTC never (or takes ages) to release source code or unlock their own bootloaders. Why does iphone have to be "open" for it to be great? Why be mad because apple rules with an iron fist and actually knows how to make a decent product? Im no where near an apple fan boy just technology lover who went through 4 evo 3D's due to hardware issues/defects. Not to mention i owned 3 evo 4G's because of light leakage; HTC got popluar made their money now their hardware is dog ****. The end
Oh yeah nice concept pics!
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I don't pull the "you mad bro" card too often...but geezus, you mad bro?
Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone feels sort of the same way as me.
I spent around $650 USD and waited 3 months (from when the official international UK version was released) to purchase the S2 from overseas. Now the phone is going to become released in the U.S.
A part of me feels sort of disappointed and excited, yet I should be very happy now that it is available here (finally!!!). I guess I just wanted a phone where it wasn't too popular in the states. A part of spending a large amount of money (with no binding contract to a carrier) gave me a sense of uniqueness in that I was "one of few" to actually have this phone. Also, the forums here are quite valuable with so many users that I feel like I am part of a special S2 community...but with the announcement of this phone in the U.S., it seems like everyone "else" (yes, all the "other" people... you name it, they've got it) would eventually have it. I guess you can't help but wonder how special your phone is, heh.
I suppose I like to have electronic devices that is rare. Thus, when someone sees you off the street holding a S2, their impression would be like "Woah. That is cool. What is that?" But I guess in a few months, people would be more like "Is that the S2? Here's mine, too. And all my friends have it!"
Anyone feel the same way, heh?
Cool story bro.
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Not much in a way, people still keep thinking it's an iPhone which makes me giggle lol. You still have the uniqueness factor since the phone looks physically different from the variants.
I'm pretty much like that too, I usually had the odd phone that nobody even knew the name. I always tell my friends about how iPhone is like a DVD player, everyone has one and knows how to operate it and I was thinking in the same line about the SGS2 since you can buy it off the cell company. This wasn't like that last year, you couldn't even find any android phones, we have a huge blackberry market and quickly diving. But the SGS2 is an android phone, that means you can have any UI, on iPhone you have iOS and works the way apple wants it to work and that's it, with the SGS2 it'll be different, you have TouchWiz as a default interface, and you can also have ADW, LauncherPro etc, you can even have MIUI on it, then it comes the millions of roms that we have and will have more coming as soon as SGS2 starts selling in the US. Now think about the people that are square headed that don't even know what ROOT is and don't even care about it, if they try to use your phone and you don't have TouchWiz it will be like a windows fan using linux, he/she will know is the same phone but won't be able to use it as easy as theirs. And you have widgets and all the customization on the different launchers.
I know what you're going tru lol
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
I spent 750 with first original stock and it was worth every penny. The only thing that got my attention is the Samsung Note.
This device will easily last 2 years for the casual person and another 6-12 months with the tech geek.
Last I read over 3 million GS2 had been sold in Europe alone so I can imagine at least a couple hundred thousand were sold in USA despite not being on general sale there that's not to say people didn't buy them online and not taking into account the many more sold throughout the rest of the world so hardly a unique phone for the privileged few this phone has been Samsung's biggest selling handset to date and with good reason!
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Of course the phone will become more popular as it gets released in more places. That's progress. Accept it.
Samsung have a winning phone on their hands; they'd be utterly stupid to not try selling it in every country in the world.
If you want something new, go and buy the Samsung Galaxy S 3 whenever it's released. (but accept that other people are going to buy it too)
SII already achieved a great level of admiration as after 3 months of release it's still the most wanted and popular phone people wanna hold. I believe it will have a record sales figure worldwide.
But OP- Poor thinking, shame on you.
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The only thing that got my attention is the 7.7.
This device will easily last 2 years for the casual person and another 6-12 months with the tech geek.
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B3311 said:
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
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Took the words out of my mouth.
But hey, it's suckers like OP that I find easy to make money from.
I know how you feel. Its just a nice experience when you own a device that others have never even seen. I owned a Microsoft zune a few years back which wasn't released here in the uk. When I showed it to iPod user's they just said "wow is that a new iPod?" Although the galaxy s2 is wildly available in the UK there are still alot of people that don't know what they are, especially iPhone users. I've already been asked if it was an iphone5. I replied no its much better than one of those old iPhones. I'm then quickly followed by a confused look and a sharp reply of "iPhones are the best though aren't they?" So funny.
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Took the words out of my mouth.
But hey, it's suckers like OP that I find easy to make money from.
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(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
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There is nothing wrong with a bit if pride and the desire to be unique.
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(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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Totally agree
Alazarin said:
(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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I thought that individualism was one of the central tenets of American culture.
I don't see how it's a bad thing if the SGSII (or any other Android phone for that matter) becomes more popular. A larger install base means the platform is more attractive for app developers, and it's the quality and quantity of these quality apps that make or break a platform. This is just my opinion, but I feel that in this area, Android still has to catch up with iOS. I can't help but feel that I had access to a greater variety of good apps when I was on my iPhone 3GS.
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There is nothing wrong with a bit if pride and the desire to be unique.
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Being anti-conformist for the sake of being anti-conformist is a form of conformity in itself.
Alazarin said:
(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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I think there is only one option left for you and it ain't a good one.
To be unique, buy a phone that doesn't sell well, meaning an ugly underpowered , crashing and medicore phone. Thats how you will be unique.
Thats the price you pay for wanting a top selling and great phone. In the end everybody wants a phone that is on top of the line.
Learn to live with it that you are not alone when you buy these phones.
When i see around me people with GS II then i know i probably made a good decision.
If i bought a phone that nobody has then its rubbish or insane expensive.
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I thought that individualism was one of the central tenets of American culture.
I don't see how it's a bad thing if the SGSII (or any other Android phone for that matter) becomes more popular. A larger install base means the platform is more attractive for app developers, and it's the quality and quantity of these quality apps that make or break a platform. This is just my opinion, but I feel that in this area, Android still has to catch up with iOS. I can't help but feel that I had access to a greater variety of good apps when I was on my iPhone 3GS.
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True. Good point.
Hopefully, Samsung continues to make great quality products. IMHO, I'll take quality over quantity (or massive production of inferior products in order to just reach a certain quota) any day of the week.
You could look at it a different way...
Think about this, for a start not everyone will get or be in the position to get an S2. Instead of 'oh that's cool what is it' you might get people saying hey an S2 they are great aren't they? I have one and just put the latest xxx rom on it, have you tried it, take a look A full on conversation going about how good the phone is, while others around wonder why they don't have one of these phones.
I already have (here in Belfast Northern Ireland) been talking to a complete stranger and quickly set his phone up a bit better for him on the spot! He thanked me and said he is very new to android. I showed him my setup and he was impressed so I pointed him in the direction of xda.
So if you like it might not be such a unique club soon, but it will still be a chosen few only with a few more friendly members, don't you think?
MJ-12
I didn't see this posted yet and I searched - if it has been posted I apologize and I'll remove this. I know these are a bit tiresome but I have to admit sometimes they are kind of funny to read.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/galaxy-note-lame-tablet-lousy-smartphone-186387
Even though I don't have my Note yet, the real user reviews I've read so far, unless they've all been shills by Samsung employees, would seem to contradict the notion of the Note as a "pathetic failure". I guess I'll know later today...
hausman said:
I didn't see this posted yet and I searched - if it has been posted I apologize and I'll remove this. I know these are a bit tiresome but I have to admit sometimes they are kind of funny to read.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/galaxy-note-lame-tablet-lousy-smartphone-186387
Even though I don't have my Note yet, the real user reviews I've read so far, unless they've all been shills by Samsung employees, would seem to contradict the notion of the Note as a "pathetic failure". I guess I'll know later today...
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That's because they're clueless. They're reviewing it as a Tablet, which it is not. All of the respectable reviewers (Engadget, CNET, etc.) are treating it like a phone with some tablet features. It is not supposed to be competing with tablets.
I didn't get through the whole thing, but he complained that there was no split keyboard option "like the iPad" for landscape mode, and that the stock browser reports the device as a phone, so mobile websites load by default.
30 seconds in the Market should solve both concerns. So I figured there was no reason to read the rest of it.
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That's because they're clueless. They're reviewing it as a Tablet, which it is not. All of the respectable reviewers (Engadget, CNET, etc.) are treating it like a phone with some tablet features. It is not supposed to be competing with tablets.
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Minus BGR who had a rather disturbing review on it.
yeah that "reviewer" writes books on apple products and that article he wrote is so biased I don't think he even tried to make it sound fair.
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That is by far the worst review I've ever read. I've read reviews from Engaget & CNET and it's more reliable.
Im pretty much tired of these close minded, closed source, apple fanboys reviewing android products.
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Im pretty much tired of these close minded, closed source, apple fanboys reviewing android products.
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Any Apple fanboys reviewing an Android phone will always give it a low rating. Apple logo is imprinted on their brain to think it's the best phone there is and no one can beat. Have a friend that tried to talk me out of getting the Note and get iPhone instead. Never.
Lately I have seen quite a few negative (or negative leaning) reviews (Walt Mossberg etc..) of the Note. This has surprised me.
The common theme in these reviews revolves around the fact that the GNote is large - too large to hold to the side of one's head and too large to control with one hand.
It strikes me that instead of viewing it as a new type of phone they are down on it because it isn't a small phone (like the iPhone) - and therefore deficient in some way.
They just seem to miss the point, completely.
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Any Apple fanboys reviewing an Android phone will always give it a low rating. Apple logo is imprinted on their brain to think it's the best phone there is and no one can beat. Have a friend that tried to talk me out of getting the Note and get iPhone instead. Never.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
They are just jealous they all have small hands.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
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I agree. I've seen friends willing to die for the 4s when it came out, knowing that iPhone 5 is coming up few months after it. I think it's a waste. I bought an iPad and then the iPad2 came out, that was it for me. I feel cheated, buying Apple products.
People are so whiney, you either like it or not. I hate reviews like that. Actually I hate subjective reviews. Just tell us what the phone has and does.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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And most of them don't seem to care about the enslavement and dependence on iTunes. I have seen numerous times where someone plugged their iDevice into another person's PC to charge...then the contacts and other stuff gets over-written or vice versa. And they freak out about it....even though Apple made this info rather clear....Perfect example of them not even knowing the basics of being dependent on Apple.
Whereas for Android, you save everything to a google account and then instantly sync contacts or whatever through mobile data/ wi-fi....no cables or hassle required. And there's even some apps that let you wirelessly sync files between phone and PC...but that of course requires a wi-fi connection.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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It definitely is the point hence why a 2yr old can use an ipad with no problem
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And most of them don't seem to care about the enslavement and dependence on iTunes. I have seen numerous times where someone plugged their iDevice into another person's PC to charge...then the contacts and other stuff gets over-written or vice versa. And they freak out about it....even though Apple made this info rather clear....Perfect example of them not even knowing the basics of being dependent on Apple.
Whereas for Android, you save everything to a google account and then instantly sync contacts or whatever through mobile data/ wi-fi....no cables or hassle required. And there's even some apps that let you wirelessly sync files between phone and PC...but that of course requires a wi-fi connection.
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Let's face it, they're paying for the logo for the most part. I can understand their computers, their iMac brands are good, but as far as the phone is concern, there's nothing really much anyone can do with it.
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Let's face it, they're paying for the logo for the most part. I can understand their computers, their iMac brands are good, but as far as the phone is concern, there's nothing really much anyone can do with it.
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
I feel both the iPhone and iPad are very limiting when compared to their counter parts. Every iPhone has basically been the same...sure, there are some actual upgrades to make the icon scrolling and other basic functions move faster.
And more often than not,, the alternatives are superior and sell for cheaper too. So why pay more for outdated stuff...
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
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Or you could build a Hackintosh
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
I feel both the iPhone and iPad are very limiting when compared to their counter parts. Every iPhone has basically been the same...sure, there are some actual upgrades to make the icon scrolling and other basic functions move faster.
And more often than not,, the alternatives are superior and sell for cheaper too. So why pay more for outdated stuff...
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Regardless how much you tell and explain this to an Apple iPhone user, they will NEVER believe you. I wish our Android phones has better resale value like their iPhone, though.
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A friend offered to make me a Hackintosh. I'm ehh about it.
This is seriously the most bias review I have ever seen. He basically hates the phone because of the size and claims that it's not for anyone except Basketball players. Really?
Two local AT&T stores are currently sold out on this device. It's clearly selling. Zach should probably give up writing reviews and stick to opinion pieces.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/22/samsung-galaxy-note-review-the-smartphone-that-samsunged-samsung/
I've seen worse,
Is this the same review we discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495972
Edit: I see it has today's date. Guess he decided trashing it twice was better than once.
Yeah the initial review they did was pretty garbage, par for their site I guess, that's why I don't waste my time with them.
yeah the initial review was the "I've seen worse" lol
this is the same as seen in another thread. bgr are iphone fanboys anyhow.
unless you own an iphone there is no sense in even visiting that site..besides i think all the reviewwers there have freakishly small hands like the BK commercial..
Short man syndrome.
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unless you own an iphone there is no sense in even visiting that site..besides i think all the reviewwers there have freakishly small hands like the BK commercial..
Short man syndrome.
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Careful with the short man syndrome stuff... I got some small hands, am a short man, and would not give up the Note for anything! Why would I? I can use a tablet with any problems, I should definitely be able to use the Galaxy Note...
you know i honestly wonder if apple pays for sites like that.
Oh I dunno...he did stick with that stupid "they'll laugh at you". And if you're a fanatic of wanting to easily do things with just one hand, maybe the Note isn't for you. But almost the entire review was him praising the Note. I think the only other thing he was critical of was he wished they'd made the screen more smudge proof like on the S2.
But he did say if you wanted a large phone that would attract attention or a small tab, then this was def the phone for you. So I'm not exactly how biased against the phone he's being like Geller or whatever his name is.
I will say that this phone does indeed attract attention. My high school and middle school students were freaked out when they saw it on Mon and Tues. And the fellow teachers all wanted to play with it. I had it at the gym and a lot of people that saw it came up and asked what it was. A large percentage of them really liked it and were thinking about getting one because of the large screen to browse the web, play games, and work with files, etc.
I think not being able to text neatly with one hand is well worth all the benefits of this phone.
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you know i honestly wonder if apple pays for sites like that.
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I have seen strange things when it comes to competition in the market place.
That is all I am going to say....
codeworks said:
Careful with the short man syndrome stuff... I got some small hands, am a short man, and would not give up the Note for anything! Why would I? I can use a tablet with any problems, I should definitely be able to use the Galaxy Note...
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I meant no offense..
I'm believe the fact that I can't do a lot of things one handed easily as a bonus now. More times then not it simply stops me from using my phone when I really shouldn't.
Unfortunately, we are still living in an Apple world. It seems like more and more people are switching, and realizing that they've been duped into having a company tell them what's best for them. BGR is still under that company's spell.
This review wasn't nearly as bad as Johnathon's, but complaining about the size of smart phones nowadays is getting ridiculous. I could understand if it was an enormous brick, but it's more thin than the iP4.
Basically at this point, it does help to make a list of websites that are Apple-infested...and to avoid them completely. Obviously each click to their sites benefits them..so yeah.
I didn't bother opening the article...but seems like this other BGR guy also said no ones gonna buy the Note.
Based on 3 nearby at&t stores that I stopped by, they're currently sold out. When I asked them what kinds of people bought it, they said surprisingly iPhone people made the switch cuz they wanted the extra screen estate that's offered.
It really was a pretty fair review all the way up to the "size" paragraph. It will be hilarious looking back at the biased "journalism" of BGR and other iphanboi sites when the Note is finally recognized as a truly trendsetting device in about a year.
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this is exactly like the evo was a few years back. everyone thought it was massive. now its the standard
techntrek said:
Is this the same review we discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495972
Edit: I see it has today's date. Guess he decided trashing it twice was better than once.
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Exactly! I thought that his first post about the Note was ridiculous! He must have baby hands! That site is an iMachine anyway!
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But he did say if you wanted a large phone that would attract attention or a small tab, then this was def the phone for you. So I'm not exactly how biased against the phone he's being like Geller or whatever his name is.
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He's still making fun of the phone/people that buy it with that statement. It's not even remotely a positive comment.
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He's still making fun of the phone/people that buy it with that statement. It's not even remotely a positive comment.
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Then I guess you missed his comments on how he got a fulls day use out of one battery charge and how gorgeous the screen was and how fast it was and how nice the hardware looked? He actually listed a lot of good things about the Note.
And I don't see where he actually made fun of a person using the phone. He said it would attract attention and that it was a phone made for a basketball player but he never insulted anyone that would buy the phone. I think he even said if you shrunk it down about 20%, so that would drop it back down to around the 4.3/4.5" mark. So he's not exactly against phones larger than the iPhone.
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Then I guess you missed his comments on how he got a fulls day use out of one battery charge and how gorgeous the screen was and how fast it was and how nice the hardware looked? He actually listed a lot of good things about the Note.
And I don't see where he actually made fun of a person using the phone. He said it would attract attention and that it was a phone made for a basketball player but he never insulted anyone that would buy the phone. I think he even said if you shrunk it down about 20%, so that would drop it back down to around the 4.3/4.5" mark. So he's not exactly against phones larger than the iPhone.
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From his original "review" and his dumb comments on his twitter account, I honestly think he just threw in a couple of positives after taking so much heat for his original assessment so that he could look less biased. Just my opinion/theory.
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ya, its meant to make the "FRUIT COMPANY" to moan in pain!!!
In a way I think the article makes sense because remember when the S2 came out Apple was trying to block its sales world wide because it had a "rectangular shape", which I don't know wth they want phones to be then. So in order for the S3 not go through that they probably went with this shape for the phone (like Galaxy Nexus). Anyways in my eyes it has a nice shape.
If this is correct, and customers are receiving a poorer product because of Apple's insanity, I personally think this authorizes physical violence towards apple customers (including iTMS customers) for funding a cartel.
This company needs to be stopped, and the only way this is happening is by choking off their income.
I don't understand how the "fruit company" can get away with blocking a phone because it has a rectangular shape, especially as there had been rectangular shaped phones before. Its like one car manufacturer blocking another car manufacturers vehicle because it has 4 wheels.
It seems to be that the "fruit company" can't face competition from anyone else. Perhaps this is because they are aware of the fact that their market share is decreasing?
Reading the article - it kinda make sense what the author says about the S3 design having to change in order to keep Apple happy based on the fact that Apple wanted to sue them no so long ago. I do wonder how long it will be before they find some fault with the S3 and try to block the sales of it.
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If this is correct, and customers are receiving a poorer product because of Apple's insanity, I personally think this authorizes physical violence towards apple customers (including iTMS customers) for funding a cartel.
This company needs to be stopped, and the only way this is happening is by choking off their income.
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No need to get violent with Apple users (I'm one of them ).
If Samsung really want to hurt Apple, all they have to do is stop supplying Apple with components for their IOS and mac computers. Apple will never be able to keep up with demand without Samsung parts in their iphone and ipad. But it's not likely to happen as both Samsung and Apple make billions off each other.
Bigmille said:
No need to get violent with Apple users (I'm one of them ).
If Samsung really want to hurt Apple, all they have to do is stop supplying Apple with components for their IOS and mac computers. Apple will never be able to keep up with demand without Samsung parts in their iphone and ipad. But it's not likely to happen as both Samsung and Apple make billions off each other.
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As you correctly surmise, there's no reason Samsung would want to hurt Apple - they sell their components for billions. But there is a reason the consumer would want to do so (though it'd likely be just out of futile vengeance). After all, it's the consumer who's hurt by Apple's anti-competitive strategies: they get less choice, they have to fund the lawsuits, and (depending on whom you ask) they get ugly phones due to their sheer ridiculousness.
This is even true of Apple consumers like yourself: your money is effectively funding Apple's crusade to force everyone else out of the market. Forcing competitors off the market does not help you; it only helps Apple. (Indeed, as competition is the driving force behind lower prices and increased innovation, it, in the long run, hurts you as well.)
The design is not bad I think its quite good however the material used is unforgivable.
riz157 said:
The design is not bad I think its quite good however the material used is unforgivable.
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The Material is good. I want a phone that can drop without being shattered and that doesn't change the colour when I carry it in my Jeans.
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The Material is good. I want a phone that can drop without being shattered and that doesn't change the colour when I carry it in my Jeans.
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Colour can be removed by simply wiping but you can't do anything about the cheap plastic look.
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