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http://phandroid.com/2011/07/11/app...t-mix-in-hopes-to-ban-sale-of-their-products/
Go figure....
LOL!!!
Apple is trying to strong arm everyone these days. Their law firm is making some serious dough off of them.
Kind of like all the App Store BS that is going on. One of the latest, LINK.
Apple is getting a bad Rep, people are leaving apple and going to android in droves. It seems like all their resources are going into suing the competition and anything remotely "app" or "apple" instead of providing better products to satisfy their customer base.
Pretty soon having a device with the shiny apple logo on the back will no longer be cool and trendy.
It's kind of funny seeing them trying to sue HTC right after that fail attempt to make the iGay have 3D capability with that ****ty screen protector.
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Oh I fully expect to see a iphone/iPod. 3D by late next year, same screen and specs at out EVOs. Engadget will give it a 10/10. Its marketed as revolutionary or even evolutionary (haha) and apple will get sue happy on LG and HTC over 3d tech on portable devices.
In my Rush Limbaugh voice....DON'T DOUBT ME.
The way they go about it they look like an angry child who wants all the attention and doesn't want to share.
Someone needs to shoot Jobs an email about this place too, obviously playing off the Apple brand and possibly taking their business
http://www.applevacations.com/
Apple?
Crap, I just ate an apple for breakfast!!!! does that mean I will be sued too?
this is a sign showing that Apple is finally scared of losing ground to other manufacturers. Guess what HTC and Samsung, two of the hottest selling smartphone makers are being targeted by apple, I mean they are just trying to target their strongest competition. If motoroal was breaking records they would be sued as well. Apple is starting a sound like a cry baby these days.
Xda needs to become a patent holder of some sort. Leeches like apple steal ideas that developers at Xda have had for years. They actually get patents to this stuff and credit for it.
Then after they have the nerve to sue. Not just Xda I know of several other tech and independent sites where these devs are getting ripped off.
Now that's the American dream.
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Lol. Apple has always been a joke for me.
This video made me laugh that much harder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY
I talk bad about Apple and their products all the time towards my friends, who I try to convince to get an Android. It's upsetting that Apple is going through such desperate measures to keep up with the competition. They can find loopholes in every company in existance and sue them, I'm not going to purchase an iPhone.
Of course they are suing everyone. They have almost nowhere to go with the way they developed their stuff and the changes between their phones are minimal at best. A little faster, etc...but nothing major.
Couple that with the fact that Android is starting to mature as a platform and other companies are starting to really take a bite out of the fruit.
Have to agree with mr orange. Most people dont like to believe a lot of apples ideas are rebranding of other people's ideas but its true. What can developers do but try get a patent for themselves.
Also, mymac ad on this page is pretty ironic
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My 7 year old wants an iPod touch. Is there something comparable that runs android? Not a phone. I was thinking a cheap used ipod off ebay for 100 but I don't think I can stomach an apple product in my house. Maybe a small tablet but needs to perform without locking up and running at least froyo.
We have a small convenience store called Apple. Hope they dont get sued. LOL
is apple still ahead of android in the market share of smartphones?
Seems like a good time to re-post this pic.....Credit goes to Felacio for the original posting of it.
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My 7 year old wants an iPod touch. Is there something comparable that runs android? Not a phone. I was thinking a cheap used ipod off ebay for 100 but I don't think I can stomach an apple product in my house. Maybe a small tablet but needs to perform without locking up and running at least froyo.
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Get an archos.
amazon sells them.
archos.com
phatmanxxl said:
My 7 year old wants an iPod touch. Is there something comparable that runs android? Not a phone. I was thinking a cheap used ipod off ebay for 100 but I don't think I can stomach an apple product in my house. Maybe a small tablet but needs to perform without locking up and running at least froyo.
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http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_43it/index.html?country=us&lang=en
Walt Mossberg tests the Samsung Galaxy Note. says it's like talking into toast.
youtu.be/EJjJWQH61sY
Those two people sitting next to each other are VERY annoying.
A lifelong apple fanboy who worships Steve Jobs doesn't like an android phone, shocker!
Seriously, normal people buy a phone for its features. If you care what you look like holding the phone then you have larger psychological issues you need to work on.
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A lifelong apple fanboy who worships Steve Jobs doesn't like an android phone, shocker!
Seriously, normal people buy a phone for its features. If you care what you look like holding the phone then you have larger psychological issues you need to work on.
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Hahaha I think the exact same thing when people complain about how they look with it by their head. I can't believe someone would care about that I personally don't think I'd honestly take that into consideration when making a purchase for a phone especially when the size gives it so many advantages.
Walt also smashed the Dell Streak in the same manner. Just remember he is from a time when microwaves and televisions were not a standard home accessory. Really an iPhone would seem great to someone who is just getting acclimated to technology.
Honestly, I don't think it's totally ridiculous to be concerned about how one looks talking on a phone. It's no different from caring how you dress or what accessories you wear--and make no mistake, a phone is an accessory just as much as a bracelet or necklace. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I do think I'd be a bit self-conscious if I were walking down the street and talking on my Note.
From my perspective, people on both sides are blowing the thing out of proportion. Like so many other things, it's just a matter of personal preference.
versus a deck of cards like iphone? I'll take the toast!
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Honestly, I don't think it's totally ridiculous to be concerned about how one looks talking on a phone. It's no different from caring how you dress or what accessories you wear--and make no mistake, a phone is an accessory just as much as a bracelet or necklace. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I do think I'd be a bit self-conscious if I were walking down the street and talking on my Note.
From my perspective, people on both sides are blowing the thing out of proportion. Like so many other things, it's just a matter of personal preference.
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And I completely understand your point and respect it I agree it comes down to the person but as for myself I really don't care what other people think. People where I live have to "have" the iPhone because it the "cool" phone to have and I expect to catch crap because of the notes size but personally I know that the phone will be very productive for myself as I have large hands making it very frustrating to use an iphone. But again back to personal preference all to their own I just personally will not conform to society and do as I please and what makes me happy and not care what some random person thinks. Personally I find things much easier that way.
teiglin said:
Honestly, I don't think it's totally ridiculous to be concerned about how one looks talking on a phone. It's no different from caring how you dress or what accessories you wear--and make no mistake, a phone is an accessory just as much as a bracelet or necklace. It's not a big deal to me personally, but I do think I'd be a bit self-conscious if I were walking down the street and talking on my Note.
From my perspective, people on both sides are blowing the thing out of proportion. Like so many other things, it's just a matter of personal preference.
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A phone is not a fashion accessory. If you think it is, you're doing it wrong.
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A phone is not a fashion accessory. If you think it is, you're doing it wrong.
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And enjoy your iphone! Lol
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And I completely understand your point and respect it I agree it comes down to the person but as for myself I really don't care what other people think. People where I live have to "have" the iPhone because it the "cool" phone to have and I expect to catch crap because of the notes size but personally I know that the phone will be very productive for myself as I have large hands making it very frustrating to use an iphone. But again back to personal preference all to their own I just personally will not conform to society and do as I please and what makes me happy and not care what some random person thinks. Personally I find things much easier that way.
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Yup, it's great for productivity and makes good use of large hands. Totally agree, it's not good to mind what other people think too much.
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A phone is not a fashion accessory. If you think it is, you're doing it wrong.
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Who ever said thoughtful discourse was dead?
You're kidding yourself if you think that people around you won't see you using your phone and make judgments based on it and its appearance. You don't have to care about those judgments, but they're happening either way, just as people form opinions based on what you're wearing. If nobody cared about how phones look, there wouldn't be a white Note or a purple RAZR, and I'm willing to bet there would also be fewer iPhones than there are now.
I'm not advocating choosing a phone based on its appearance alone, and I'm here because I preordered a Note for myself. Obviously a phone does a lot more than a jacket or a necklace and should be given commensurately more consideration. That doesn't mean everyone needs to shut their eyes, plug their ears, and shriek when presented with opinions that don't coincide with their own.
Yeah I'm going to feel self conscious when using it too, but really, who talks on their phone anymore anyway? If in my car, BT, if on my desk, spkr.
I don't get that many calls anyway.
I can't wait to gaze into that huge screen!
I didn't see this posted yet and I searched - if it has been posted I apologize and I'll remove this. I know these are a bit tiresome but I have to admit sometimes they are kind of funny to read.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/galaxy-note-lame-tablet-lousy-smartphone-186387
Even though I don't have my Note yet, the real user reviews I've read so far, unless they've all been shills by Samsung employees, would seem to contradict the notion of the Note as a "pathetic failure". I guess I'll know later today...
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I didn't see this posted yet and I searched - if it has been posted I apologize and I'll remove this. I know these are a bit tiresome but I have to admit sometimes they are kind of funny to read.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/galaxy-note-lame-tablet-lousy-smartphone-186387
Even though I don't have my Note yet, the real user reviews I've read so far, unless they've all been shills by Samsung employees, would seem to contradict the notion of the Note as a "pathetic failure". I guess I'll know later today...
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That's because they're clueless. They're reviewing it as a Tablet, which it is not. All of the respectable reviewers (Engadget, CNET, etc.) are treating it like a phone with some tablet features. It is not supposed to be competing with tablets.
I didn't get through the whole thing, but he complained that there was no split keyboard option "like the iPad" for landscape mode, and that the stock browser reports the device as a phone, so mobile websites load by default.
30 seconds in the Market should solve both concerns. So I figured there was no reason to read the rest of it.
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That's because they're clueless. They're reviewing it as a Tablet, which it is not. All of the respectable reviewers (Engadget, CNET, etc.) are treating it like a phone with some tablet features. It is not supposed to be competing with tablets.
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Minus BGR who had a rather disturbing review on it.
yeah that "reviewer" writes books on apple products and that article he wrote is so biased I don't think he even tried to make it sound fair.
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That is by far the worst review I've ever read. I've read reviews from Engaget & CNET and it's more reliable.
Im pretty much tired of these close minded, closed source, apple fanboys reviewing android products.
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Im pretty much tired of these close minded, closed source, apple fanboys reviewing android products.
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Any Apple fanboys reviewing an Android phone will always give it a low rating. Apple logo is imprinted on their brain to think it's the best phone there is and no one can beat. Have a friend that tried to talk me out of getting the Note and get iPhone instead. Never.
Lately I have seen quite a few negative (or negative leaning) reviews (Walt Mossberg etc..) of the Note. This has surprised me.
The common theme in these reviews revolves around the fact that the GNote is large - too large to hold to the side of one's head and too large to control with one hand.
It strikes me that instead of viewing it as a new type of phone they are down on it because it isn't a small phone (like the iPhone) - and therefore deficient in some way.
They just seem to miss the point, completely.
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Any Apple fanboys reviewing an Android phone will always give it a low rating. Apple logo is imprinted on their brain to think it's the best phone there is and no one can beat. Have a friend that tried to talk me out of getting the Note and get iPhone instead. Never.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
They are just jealous they all have small hands.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
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I agree. I've seen friends willing to die for the 4s when it came out, knowing that iPhone 5 is coming up few months after it. I think it's a waste. I bought an iPad and then the iPad2 came out, that was it for me. I feel cheated, buying Apple products.
People are so whiney, you either like it or not. I hate reviews like that. Actually I hate subjective reviews. Just tell us what the phone has and does.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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And most of them don't seem to care about the enslavement and dependence on iTunes. I have seen numerous times where someone plugged their iDevice into another person's PC to charge...then the contacts and other stuff gets over-written or vice versa. And they freak out about it....even though Apple made this info rather clear....Perfect example of them not even knowing the basics of being dependent on Apple.
Whereas for Android, you save everything to a google account and then instantly sync contacts or whatever through mobile data/ wi-fi....no cables or hassle required. And there's even some apps that let you wirelessly sync files between phone and PC...but that of course requires a wi-fi connection.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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It definitely is the point hence why a 2yr old can use an ipad with no problem
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And most of them don't seem to care about the enslavement and dependence on iTunes. I have seen numerous times where someone plugged their iDevice into another person's PC to charge...then the contacts and other stuff gets over-written or vice versa. And they freak out about it....even though Apple made this info rather clear....Perfect example of them not even knowing the basics of being dependent on Apple.
Whereas for Android, you save everything to a google account and then instantly sync contacts or whatever through mobile data/ wi-fi....no cables or hassle required. And there's even some apps that let you wirelessly sync files between phone and PC...but that of course requires a wi-fi connection.
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Let's face it, they're paying for the logo for the most part. I can understand their computers, their iMac brands are good, but as far as the phone is concern, there's nothing really much anyone can do with it.
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Let's face it, they're paying for the logo for the most part. I can understand their computers, their iMac brands are good, but as far as the phone is concern, there's nothing really much anyone can do with it.
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
I feel both the iPhone and iPad are very limiting when compared to their counter parts. Every iPhone has basically been the same...sure, there are some actual upgrades to make the icon scrolling and other basic functions move faster.
And more often than not,, the alternatives are superior and sell for cheaper too. So why pay more for outdated stuff...
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
I feel both the iPhone and iPad are very limiting when compared to their counter parts. Every iPhone has basically been the same...sure, there are some actual upgrades to make the icon scrolling and other basic functions move faster.
And more often than not,, the alternatives are superior and sell for cheaper too. So why pay more for outdated stuff...
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Regardless how much you tell and explain this to an Apple iPhone user, they will NEVER believe you. I wish our Android phones has better resale value like their iPhone, though.
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Or you could build a Hackintosh
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A friend offered to make me a Hackintosh. I'm ehh about it.
I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
travlincablguy said:
I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
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The American Way....
personally.. this isn't worth the $5.05 ill get in the mail from apple.. You'll never get as much as you hope and dream for..
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU
Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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op, no real offense intended!
robber said:
op, no real offense intended!
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Ok lol no offense intended here either btw
emac11 said:
HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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This is why corporate crime should be policed just as heavily as personal. There was clearly a crime committed here, and the U.S. Government was their weapon. How malice and messed up is that? News of this comes to a company on the day it's launch phones are in the mail? Apples pockets are deep, I guarantee they knew what they were doing. If it looks like s.... smells like s.... and tastes like s.... it probably is s....
And here sprint fronts the bill, when they shouldn't have to and buys everyone who waited a case.
Again - I don't think your seeing the legitimacy of Apple's claim. I'm not saying it was right, or that they are right. In the eyes of the law, they do have the right to make that claim and enforce it through legal action. Now the real issue comes down to whether or not Apple is hindering HTC's business purely to mess with them. I don't think that is the case - it would cost millions of dollars to enforce such a claim with absolutely no guarantee of success. Yes that is a drop in the bucket, but justifying that kind of legal expense has to occur on someone's budget.
It would be up to HTC's counter-claim (if successful) to prove more likely than not - whether Apple's action was purely obstructive. The law will always look at the evidence in the light most favorable to the person being sued (similar to the concept of jurisprudence), and in the case of a counter-claim that would be Apple.
HTC's claim of obstruction would have to be clearly egregious in order for it to be sustained in court (likewise, Apple's claim of infringement). For those of you who have a problem with this - pray that you never become a defendant in any court matter.
Guys, lets think clearly for a minute- please.
Apple believes that they have a patent that HTC has infringed upon. They take proper action and bring their claim in font of the International Trade Commission. The ITC then sides with them! How Apple can somehow be responsible for intentionally causing damage to a potential "class" for the above actions is beyond me.
Anyway, lets continue for the purpose of illustrating the absurdity of Apple being sued.
The ITC judge tells HTC that they need to remove the features from the phone that Apple holds patents for. HTC agrees. Then, subsequently HTC comes back and states that they don't feel they need to remove the core functionality, as they have found a way to code around the patent. Whether or not this had any impact on the delay itself, I don't know but it could have.
Even if somehow, the ultimate conspiracy theorist was able to prove Apple somehow had done all of this purposefully, Apples claims are still 100% valid.
I do believe that the guys in Cupertino got a huge rise out of this, I am sure they were laughing their asses off. However, from their perspective this is just a fortunate side effect of a completely legitimate claim that was being enforced by an International body and not Apple themselves.
All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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ElephantKiller said:
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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i sorry but i agree with ElephantKiller, Not to mention that they have already been given the (unjust) right to claim an absurd patent. All your doing is wasting time. apple doesn't care. They believe they are right to protect their product.
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All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Tried this on my Evo 3D (because the ICS ROM also ships with this) and unfortunately it doesn't work =( once I clear defaults and I try to tap on a YouTube link, nothing happens.
I suggest people try it on the Evo LTE, maybe it works there because I have Sense 3.6, perhaps and hopefully it works different on 4.0.
Haha, I share your pain, I too feel slighted by this recent fiasco. However, as stated already, there is no "class action" suit to be had. So what are we left to do, what can we the mere lowely consumers do? Don't buy Apple. Simple.
Maybe after you and I recieve our phones, we "show off" our phones to those we know that own an iPhone. Perhaps we do our best to promote the Android platform. Explain the inherent superiority of open source. Demonstrate the overwhelming edge we have in capabilities, & customization abilities.
The sad fact is, Apple has the lions share of the market, extremely deep pockets, and apparently the ear of some influential higher-ups. Not to mention the mindless fan boy, status symbol toting majority of iPhone users that will buy an iPhone regardless of what may come along, just because it's an iPhone.
But take heart my Android loving friends. How long has it been since Apple has had a revolutionary idea they brought to the table? When did their business strategy go from marketing to desperate/frivolous patent infringement claims? How far behind the curve are they?
Go take your shiny new phone and compare it to a new IP4S, what do you notice? Sad isn't it? It's a matter of time. Open source platform IS the future. Apples closed source, "we own that idea" mentality WILL be it's downfall. Might take five years, could be twenty, mark my words, Apple is headed for decline, and they know it.
Hahaha, well I feel better now. Back to my beer and the off topic lounge. -jamie
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It appears Apple has won the case. The jury has said Samsung has infringed on the patents.
I put this here because I believe that it does relate to us as a community and the galaxy s2 but mods if you feel it isn't related to then close it.
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Yeah Sammy just got raped. There's a long appeal process ahead. But those fruit people potentially killed twiz
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joshyy_rey said:
Yeah Sammy just got raped. There's a long appeal process ahead. But those fruit people potentially killed twiz
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And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
If any of you guys follow Robert Scoble on G+, he just posted an interesting take on the outcome...
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If any of you guys follow Robert Scoble on G+, he just posted an interesting take on the outcome...
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And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
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Yeah We on XDA love that, but in reality it hurts Android in the long run with the "main stream" customer. I know like 6 girls who fit the apple mold and were iphone users, that switched to SGS3 recently because of it's features it offered over apple. Let's face it ASOP is for hardcore android people. Stock android isnt pretty enough and offer enoigh features for the average person. Look at what a lot of people on here complain about, wishing they could bring twiz camera to cm10 etc, in reality Android has a few more steps to go to get where it needs to be to compete in the general consumer arena, it needs skins, imo.
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And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
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Nexus S got dinged for 2 million. So they won't go pure android. Windows phone 8 maybe if MS stop being dicks to one of their best OEMs.
Meh, Samsung deserved it. Pretty damning internal memos basically saying "copy Apple".
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Meh, Samsung deserved it. Pretty damning internal memos basically saying "copy Apple".
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I get that but I mean what else can they do?
So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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Color a dodge challenger or a mustang yellow with black stripes. Most of the tools in the world will think its bumblebee.
People are stupid and our patent system is ****ed.
Yes Sammy did "copy" apple, but thats what must be done to be in the mainstream. and has ALWAYS been done.
Our patent system caused this, samsung didnt do anything wrong. IMO
Also, other than the square icons, and the chrome bezel, I see nothing that resembles an iphone. If it was a blatant copy, people would have a hard time identifying it.
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So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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It is different because of the way it works. It is just that small section of screen not the whole screen like android which makes it different enough.
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Color a dodge challenger or a mustang yellow with black stripes. Most of the tools in the world will think its bumblebee.
People are stupid and our patent system is ****ed.
Yes Sammy did "copy" apple, but thats what must be done to be in the mainstream. and has ALWAYS been done.
Our patent system caused this, samsung didnt do anything wrong. IMO
Also, other than the square icons, and the chrome bezel, I see nothing that resembles an iphone. If it was a blatant copy, people would have a hard time identifying it.
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+1 to this. If the idiot judge hadn't granted Apple those patent rights (on stuff they didn't develop, and which should have never been patentable in the first place) this case would have never happened to begin with.
Thinking about this, maybe I could file for patent on any display device that is rectangle and has a bezel with square corners and sue all monitor/televison manufacturers? hmmm
Phalanx7621 said:
So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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Yes. But that's an issue that Android has to deal with, not Samsung (which they are) The OS infringing done by Samsung had to do with Touchwiz, not Android directly (even though the features are found in stock android). And then there's the 'edge to edge glass with a button' and 'rectangle with rounded corners' patents. Yes, Apple was actually allowed to patent a form factor and a shape..
Regardless, every single Apple patent that the jury claimed was valid was ridiculous.
Motorola (Google) has already started filing suit against Apple not too long before this decision.
just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
jin5 said:
just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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Theres gonna be a huge market for banned black market devices. I can see the ebayers wheels turning already
In the case of other manufacturers infringing, Apple only needs to win one case like this for other manufacturers to line up to pay for Apples bogus IP and all the rest will just be short court battles that Apple can win just by referencing this case. I do however definitely seeing this as being appealed and Samsung will most likely not end up with this bad of a final verdict. Its just too ridiculous to stand. I mean, SKorea and UK threw the Apple patents out, deemed them invalid! Only here in the US could Apple pull this off..
jin5 said:
just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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Precisely. There isn't much wiggle room with which an all touch device can be designed lol.
CallMeAria said:
SKorea and UK threw the Apple patents out, deemed them invalid! Only here in the US could Apple pull this off..
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The us had been behind in mobile technology for a long time. Now, if this verdict holds, the rest of the world will get the latest devices while we will all be stuck with either iPhones, phones that to avoid Apple's lawyers have to use technology that is five years old, or phones that cost much more than they do elsewhere because companies are paying to use Apple's "innovations".
The only thing this lawsuit does is to either take away excellent products away from US consumers or make them more expensive for us, while the rest of the world continues to enjoy superior product choices with better technology. The judge that granted these patents to Apple was incompetent.
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The us had been behind in mobile technology for a long time. Now, if this verdict holds, the rest of the world will get the latest devices while we will all be stuck with either iPhones, phones that to avoid Apple's lawyers have to use technology that is five years old, or phones that cost much more than they do elsewhere because companies are paying to use Apple's "innovations".
The only thing this lawsuit does is to either take away excellent products away from US consumers or make them more expensive for us, while the rest of the world continues to enjoy superior product choices with better technology. The judge that granted these patents to Apple was incompetent.
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Agreed but Apple just has to have their way. Reminds me of a spoiled brat tbh although I am not that educated on the issue
122ninjas said:
I get that but I mean what else can they do?
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Develop an entirely new UI for their products, like HTC did with Sense even though I know that some or even many people dislike it for various reasons. But hey, let's face it: those Taiwainian guys brought something really new and pretty for Android users, even with all its minuses.