TetherGPS - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

So am I the only one that thought of using TetherGPS to use a phone to get gps info from?
But the one bad thing is when the ATP seems to connect to a phone (lg-vm670 in my case) it just crashes the app on the ATP.
Anyone with the same issues?
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Nope, you,re not the first.
Try Bluetooth GPS and GPS over BT. I had good luck with these.
For even better results buy a cheap BT GPS receiver.

BLUETOOTH GPS works very well. Simple setup also. Its a proven app. I have it and worked great linked to my prime.

Thank you both. I'll try it.
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It says connection refused no matter how many times I try it.
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JustinFields95 said:
It says connection refused no matter how many times I try it.
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Did you do these steps?
1. On the prime Settings -> Developer options -> check mock locations
2. use either the phone or the tablet and pair the two units together
Settings -> wireless and networks -> bluetooth settings -> search for devices
Connect to device and accept connection on device discovered.
3. On the phone start GPS over Bluetooth or Bluetooth GPS Output
4. On the Prime start Bluetooth GPS -> select your phone from the pul down and connect.
If you get connection refused try rebooting your phone.
review the end of this video around 4:11 mark good example of using phone GPS with a tablet (touchpad running android).
http://youtu.be/d43uq-gzI_I
Good luck

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Wifi dropping when Prime sleeps

Has anyone experienced the prime loosing wifi connection when the screen goes to sleep. It is not right away but left alone for more than 5 minutes will cause to loose wifi connection. When I wake it, it says it is still connected with a good connection but no internet connection. I have changed the setting to keep wifi on during sleep but it is not.
Suggestions?
lol have you gone into your wifi settings and checked your wifi sleep policy? check settings --> wireless --> wifi and poke around tehre
Yea i did that. I did notice though that when i come out of sleep that my wifi signal in the notification bar is greyed out but still shows that i am connected. Only when it is blue does the internet work. Anyone have an idea.
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Thought maybe it was my router. I experience this as well. What is odd is that its a 50/50 shot for if it drops internet or not. It will seem to work fine a couple days, then do exactly as you describe. Figure its software related, joys of being on the bleeding edge
Factory reset yet? That seemed to clear our most minor issues for people...
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Factory reset yet? That seemed to clear our most minor issues for people...
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Yup, right after the ICS update, which did its job in clearing out all other minor issues I had. My dell streak had this same exact behavior, which leads me to believe its a router config issue, not the prime. Planned on messing around with that to see if I could pin down the issue.
Try going into setting- wifi - advanced settings..... you will find your solution there
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My solution is not in the wifi settings. Keep wifi connected on during sleep is checked. I am thinking it was something within ics.
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Mines done the same thing before ICS and after. My husband's does too and so does my son's OG Transformer. I think it is a router issue though as it never does this at work when I'm connected to wifi there.

Wpa2 problem?

I was wondering if anyone else has had problems with this encryption type? I usually run with no encryption and don't broadcast my ssid but since my Fios router went out the new one requires it. It seems to stay connected for about 5 to 10 minutes then pages stop loading.. I don't seem to have this issue on wep .... my laptop and Droid razr don't seem to have this problem. I am using the actiontec rev I which is the newest router Verizon offers.
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I am using WPA2 on my TFP no issues. I came from WEP to WPA2 after reading some info about how WEP can stunk speed.
Really weird....ill try wep at my house... maybe ill call Verizon to see if I can disable encryption all together. Wep at work runs pretty well.
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benefit14snake said:
ill try wep at my house
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I strongly advise against it. It's also pretty shocking it's still being used at a place of business.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/356572/the-ease-of-hacking-a-wep-network
I had the same problem, what fixed it for me was using WPA 2 AES only no TRIP. Hope that helps.
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bobd2754 said:
I had the same problem, what fixed it for me was using WPA 2 AES only no TRIP. Hope that helps.
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Ill try this but I think that's how it already is.
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Ugh... if I take off wpa2 I can't get wireless n speeds so my speed test goes down to 23mbs which is a waste of my service (35/35) so I'm not sure what to do. I can't even stream video to my TV which is one of the biggest things we do with the tablet.
I found out that you can disable encryption but its ass backwards. I have to switch to wep then turn off wep. Seems like its made so its really hard to turn off lol.
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Typo?
bobd2754 said:
I had the same problem, what fixed it for me was using WPA 2 AES only no TRIP. Hope that helps.
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Don't you mean TKIP?
had the same problem connecting to a dlink router but then i changed it to...
Security Mode : wpa2
Cipher Type : aes
PSK / EAP : psk
everything running perfect
try wpa2 cypher type auto
Firstly, hiding your SSID does not add much security. It will stop any opportunistic neighbours from connecting, but any IT brain can find your SSID in a flash (and intercept all your non-encrypted traffic). WEP is also useless, it takes 2 minutes for someone with a Linux laptop to work out your passphrase with the right tools.
WPA2 should not slow speeds significantly. You should always use WPA2/PSK for personal use. You can always try WPA too as that is just as secure as WPA2. If the speed is not adequate, check that no neighbours are on the same or adjacent channels (using android WiFi analyzer). If you have the router option try 40MHz channels for higher speeds. My Prime works fine on WPA2/PSK.
Lastly, try setting a static IP address. Honeycomb 3.2 had issues with picking up DHCP addresses in some cases (that caused frequent connection drops). I thought it had been fixed in ICS but worth a try.
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Well I now know that it is not the security as the same thing happens when I use wep or unsecured. It happens on two different access points. Weird thing is when it works it just a tad bit slower than my laptop (not a bad thing) but it can not hold a stable connection. I will try a new one on Monday. Decided just to order a brand new one and take this one back.
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Unless anyone has other suggestions.
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While we're on the subject , anyone with a wireless router should be checking that Wifi Protected Setup is disabled. Google WPS vulnerability and read how it affects your router. Some routers will report it off while leaving the interface enabled, leaving you vulnerable to a relatively easy brute force attack. On most wireless routers made after 06, this "feature " is enabled by default.
Oh, and to the guy running with security disabled, where do you live? I wanna download some child pornography and score a few account passwords...just looking for a friendly, open wifi connection, just like yours.
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I live in a neighborhood that has all old people in it lol. I have wpa2 enabled but I tried open as a troubleshooting method. Previously I hid my ssid.
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My Internet Connection is Dynamic Ip DHCP
I go to Network Settings and uncheck DNS Relay and my prime wifi connects without a problem ( wpa2+aes )
This sounds familiar. As I mentioned earlier, Honeycomb 3.2 had an issue where it frequently dropped the connection if the dhcp lease was indefinite. I experienced it with the HTC Flyer when it received honeycomb. It mainly affected use with Belkin routers. Did you upgrade to ICS or are you still on honeycomb? Please try a static ip configuration:
- You will need to set a free ip address in your range (likely something like 192.168.1.123),
-set your default gateway as your router's ip address,
- set your dns gateway 1 to whatever your isp dictates (or you can point to your router as a relay or use 8.8.8.8 for google dns),
- set the network prefix (subnet mask)to 24 (bit)
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Thanks for the help. I did a factory reset and it is working better so far. Its just weird i didnt have this problem with the other primes i had. If dhcp doesnt work after more testing today i will go to static ip.
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Oddly enough been running 24 hours straight and streamed several episodes of. 30 rock to my ps3. Not sure why but a factory reset seems to have fixed my dropout issues (knock on wood).
Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. I now know a little bit more about wireless networking in the process!
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Just received C3 serial Prime

Just received a new Prime today, serial is C3, I have not had time to do any extensive testing but I am pissed off to find dead pixels and white pixels so I guess ill be returning the unit until I get one with no damn spot on it, the lightbleeding the GPS doesnt bother me but dammit the dots are irritating!
I do not know if anyone else has a C3 model yet so before I return it in a few days please feel free to ask me any questions to compare it with the other models.
I had a C1 before.
Cheers!
How's the wifi?
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How's the wifi?
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Well in never had any real problems with it with my last unit but its fine right now no dropping or whatever.
Am gonna try go outside and see how far the signal can go and the strength and so on.
+1 on wifi check.
Depending on what type of internet connection you have but still, does it sseem to be better than your previous Prime ?
can you check wifi with streaming bluetooth?
I did not know there were different models. I got mine few days ago and it's C3.
I see that most people complain about wifi - it works fine for me, it has better range than my Galaxy S.
It has newest firmware in - dated 20-Feb I think. It rebooted itself twice for no reason, but apart from that everything works smoothly.
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I'm on my 3rd first had dead pixels and white spot (LCD mura) and 2nd had mura too. This or is fiber. All C2 serial..
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That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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Now now.. Change that to "some of the primes"!
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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I'm happy with my prime purely for the fact that i got sick and tired of waiting for a decently powered android tablet, and the prime fits the bill in practically all areas apart from the for mentioned problems already discussed i.e. gps, wifi, wifi + bluetooth etc etc.........
usb to ethernet
-This was always a preference for me as i don't like leaving on my wifi for extended periods of time, just gotta wait till someone figures out how to hook the adapter to the tablet directly.
Saying that i like the fact that when i need wifi, i can log onto my router using the prime and turn it on and then remove the tablet from the dock, then, when im finished with the wifi, i turn it off, dock the tablet, and let it connect over ethernet automatically.....very nice
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
Saying that, i feel the same disgust as you my friend, were not apple fanbois fellas, stop acting like em.......if there are issues with the prime, ignoring them wont fix em, and what message will that send to asus..........."its alright guys, your next product is allowed to have defects"..............i don't thinks so
I got my C3 a couple of days ago. Other than the GPS that I knew was not going to work very well inside, if at all, its been working fine. It does work good outside though. Wifi is as good as any other devices I have on my network and range is the same as other devices. I haven't however tested it while using Bluetooth at the same time since I don't really use it that way.
As far as the screen I have no dead pixels and only the slightest light bleed at the top just below the camera. I didn't even notice it until I used the app for checking the screen for dead pixels. It is so small that I not sure I want to return it for another because like I said I don't even see under normal use.
I must say I was a little apprehensive about buying it because of all the threads here with some of the problems some of these have. Add in the fact there were none anywhere near me that I could play with first hand to see if I even would like the little thing it was a big leap of blind faith for me. But it was also the threads with the many happy would buy it again owners that conived me to go ahead buy it and I'm glad I did.
In short I'm happy with it. A buddy and I compared his new iPad(3) with my TP and the first words out of his mouth was WOW that is nice. There was also another iPad2 owner next to me and he was impressed with it too. This was in a place that has always had crappy wifi and I still managed to latch on to it.
I even applied my first hack to it yesterday the black hack for Notifications which really looks nice I think.
fasthair
banderos101 said:
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
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Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
This was not meant to be nor is it a 'trash the Prime thread' this was meant to be informative.
This has been working great for me so far... TF201+SGS
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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How is WiFi+Bluetooth working together, headset, speakers, streaming..?
C3 should have all the updates for hw that solve the isse, I hope.
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
banderos101 said:
Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
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Mine works fine, yes. Perhaps you need to disable gps on the Prime. Maybe it's getting confused?
I've also used "bluetooth gps mouse" (do a market search, there's a free version to see if it works for you) on the prime and an app called Bluetooth GPS Output on the phone. Maybe just need a different combination of software to get it working?
Oh, also, you need to enable the "Enable Mock GPS Provider" setting in Bluetooth GPS on the Prime. Otherwise it won't work at all.
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mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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I bought mine from cdon.no, I'm in Norway
mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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Just to add... I ordered mine online from Staples. Had it the next day with free shipping
fasthair

USB Wifi dongle/stick to extend range

He prime users,
I have one of the primes with a bad connection to Wifi.
I love to use my prime for all other futures but it would be nice if i can also use it in the rooms further from my wifi signal.
Therefore i would like to insert a wifi usb stick/dongle into my prime keyboard.
Does anyone have experience with this? Or are there other people that have a wifi usb stick and want to check if it works?
My wifi signal is secured so how can you insert a password?
I really hope that this idea will solve my wifi problems for good.
Kind regards,
Germer
Did you registered you Transformer Prime on the (vip . asus . com) asus member webpage?
Once you have your product registered you will see an option on the left that let's you "ask" them to give the "solution" they found for those who have wifi problems with their Tranformer Prime.
Better worry, because it ends arround July I think.
Thanks for your reply.
I don't have the option on my asus vip page, i sended them an email now.
I bought the prime in the USA and i live in Europe so i can not return the prime.
I still hope i can solve the issue with a wifi stick? Anybody knows about the compatibility of a wifi stick?
On the VIP website, once inside, look for a botton called "TF201 GPS Extension Kit Apply&Inquire". After the click you will see something like this:
"Thank you for purchasing the ASUS Eee Transformer Prime TF201, and helping to make it the most popular Android based tablet since its launch in December 2011. We greatly appreciate feedback from our valued customers about our products, and take it very seriously. The response to the TF201 generally has been overwhelmingly positive, but we understand that, in certain regions, the GPS functionality has not met some user’s expectations.
Free Dongle! At ASUS, we are committed to delivering innovative, high-quality products and services, and our customers’ experience is important to us. Although the TF201 is not a professional GPS device, as part of our unwavering commitment to our customers we are offering all customers who purchased a TF201 system a free external GPS extension kit, called a dongle, which may help improve signal reception and optimize the user experience. We are pleased to announce this offer as part of our commitment to customer service, but it does not replace, alter or amend any existing warranties you may have.We also encourage you to contact ASUS customer support in your local region directly if you are experiencing GPS related problems.
ASUS prides itself on delivering an unrivalled user experience, and we offer our sincere apologies for any inconvenience that our customers may have encountered.
The offer will expire on 31th of July, 2012 (PST)."
It doesn't matter if you bought it in the USA and you live in Europe, just drop your adress and they will send you the hardware free of charge.
He again,
I do have the GPS extension kit, but does this kit also improve my wifi signal? I actually only care about the wifi signal. In the description of the gps extension kit it doesn't say anything about improving wifi.
germer
No, the dongle, according to reports, doesn't do anything to improve wifi.
Not sure why people in this thread are giving you advise on how to improve your GPS, when you asked about wifi?!?
Sorry I don't have any info on the issue you did ask about.
Sorry, my bad. I tought The dongle would help WIFI reception too.
Try searching on youtube for "asus transformer prime wifi fix" this might help. After you tested it, post here your results please.
I first brought up that idea about the wifi dongle. Demandarin said that if there is enough popularity on this subject Gary Keys might actually impliment it. So please keep seeing if more people would like this. This should be able to fix all wifi problems completely!!!
I used that video before, and it does work and improves my reception. But i can not sit at the couch and push on my tablet all the time. It is only temporarily and does not give me a good solution. I really hope that more people are interested in a wifistick solution so that someone can test it. More ideas?
Does anyone think this would work on the prime? It's a usb WIFI adapter for Apple products and some more.
meritline dot com/wlan-wireless-wifi-express-adapter-for-iphone-ipad-ipod---p-79501.aspx?hq_e=el&hq_m=2447492&hq_l=125&hq_v=84917200d8
Im not sure dude, but I would try giving it a go. I have messaged Gary Keys in hopes for him to allow usb wifi adapters to work on the prime to fix the wifi problem but I havent gotten an answer back yet. I assume if we all bring it up enough on these forums, he will actually impliment it in future updates. So, If you can, try spreading this idea around so more people will fight for this to happen.
I got this little wifi range extender that I carry around and use with my prime if needed.
http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?categoryid=241&model=TL-WR702N#over
It works pretty well. You can quickly change which wifi network you want to extend with this by connecting to it and using the web browser to log into the quick setup.
You can also use it as an external wifi card via ethernet if you have the dock and a usb to ethernet adapter.
tonysunshine said:
I got this little wifi range extender that I carry around and use with my prime if needed.
http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?categoryid=241&model=TL-WR702N#over
It works pretty well. You can quickly change which wifi network you want to extend with this by connecting to it and using the web browser to log into the quick setup.
You can also use it as an external wifi card via ethernet if you have the dock and a usb to ethernet adapter.
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looks nice Is the device charging through the TFP's USB port on the dock?
i don't have one
That seems quite good. Might give it go. Found this aswell http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/WL330N3G/
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That seems quite good. Might give it go. Found this aswell http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/WL330N3G/
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I've read in some other threads that it works quite good indeed. However it's almost twice the price of the TP-link router. And in both cases, the question still remains if the device can be powered by the prime or not (for WL330N3G can't help but notice that the explanatory picture shows 2 usb cables connected to one laptop :s)
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I've read in some other threads that it works quite good indeed. However it's almost twice the price of the TP-link router. And in both cases, the question still remains if the device can be powered by the prime or not (for WL330N3G can't help but notice that the explanatory picture shows 2 usb cables connected to one laptop :s)
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it's not 2 USB cables, it's a network cable and a USB cable
Just wanted to share my experience with the tplink nano router earlier mentioned with the tfp. So my main questions was if the device could be powered with the dock of my prime: it does not other than that, the repeater function works perfectly. The router is about 25 feet from the main router. The tfp right next to it, i managed to get 4 mbps of download out of a possible 12. From the same spot, the tfp gets between -80 to -70 dbm but the dm speed barely gets to 700 bps. So for the size and the price paid for, it's quite a nice performance imho. Besides, it is possible to configure it directly with the prime (with the help of'the dock and a nintendo wii ethernet to usb adapter). Like seen in most reviews the default settings come with dhcp server options disabled but it's quite easy to manage through the admin panel. I'll try to test it throughly with different scenarios (wifi hotspot and such...) and post results. It is quite sad that it can't be powered with the dock. Other than that, i hope it will be sufficient until the time i'll find a prpper replacement for the prime.
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otispowell said:
That seems quite good. Might give it go. Found this as well ..............WL330N3G/
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It might be nice if ASUS cared enough to make the WL330N3G available cheaply to TF201 owners ...come to think of it free would be even better.
I got my GPS dongle but to be honest I would rather have better Wifi. I am confused as to whether the TF201 actually supports a normal Wifi Dongle - my reading seems to indicate that it requires a software update with appropriate drivers. If that's the case then maybe that's a good reason to root the Prime with a ROM that supports a Wifi Dongle!
Is there one out there?
GerryAttrick said:
It might be nice if ASUS cared enough to make the WL330N3G available cheaply to TF201 owners ...come to think of it free would be even better.
I got my GPS dongle but to be honest I would rather have better Wifi. I am confused as to whether the TF201 actually supports a normal Wifi Dongle - my reading seems to indicate that it requires a software update with appropriate drivers. If that's the case then maybe that's a good reason to root the Prime with a ROM that supports a Wifi Dongle!
Is there one out there?
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there is a thread in here somewhere about a wifi dongle. You might as well rma to get wifi fixed if you are stock (as long as you want to risk losing ability to unlock).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484339&highlight=dongle

Where can I buy a GPS Dongle?

I got a used TF201 on 4.1.1 a few days back, I've already unlocked and rooted it following the great guides here,
but now I need a dongle for it, does anyone know where I could get one?
Thanks in advance.
PS. Sorry for the double post, I thought, I'd ask here after seeing some other posts like this..
Update ****
I got one from dpwhitty11, thanks for all the responses
I would also like to know where I could get one at as well. Thank you
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Hi,
I have got a Asus TF 201 GPS dongle.
But even with Asus stock rom I prefered a GPS-Mouse (Nokia Bluetooth) because it worked much better.
Using a BT-GPS-Mouse:
Install e.g. "bluetooth gps provider" from play store and check your setting for wrong position in developer settings.
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I just got mine from the class action law suit against them for the GPS issues. Got the dongle and the $17 (even though my TF201 came from Ebay)

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