software update question (pre root )/hboot 1.5 - HTC EVO 3D

I'm currently stock (hboot 1.5,, software# 2.08.651.2,,prl version 21083). I am about to root as soon as I'm 100% sure of the procedure from start to finish. My question is, should i take any OTA updates before I root?,,,,,,,I'm fully aware of the risk in doing this, coming from the evo4g( really don't want to be stuck stock for months, while everyone else is flashing away),,,,I'm a firm believer of searching, before asking, but if there's a better software version to gain root from, I want to be running it.

I do realize that starting out with this version of software means I'm stuck with hboot 1.5,,just couldn't find any posts referencing later OTA software versions possibly being better or worse to root from

pappy76 said:
I do realize that starting out with this version of software means I'm stuck with hboot 1.5,,just couldn't find any posts referencing later OTA software versions possibly being better or worse to root from
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Nope, it matters not what software version you're on. Only hboot, and in you're case, like me, you're screwed either way :'(

I guess I figured as much, thanks,,,I'm a little confused about current root methods for hboot 1.5,,,I see there's fastboot/copynpaste/htc unlock(not too scary),,,install SU,,,something, something can't unlock boot partition(no kernals),,,possibly fastboot install recovery in order to be able to do so. I also read in another thread, there are two ways. The HTC way and a better XDA way, of rooting,,,I'm sold on a better XDA way,,,any suggestions?

The only way to root hboot 1.5 is to use the htcdev unlock.

pappy76 said:
I'm currently stock (hboot 1.5,, software# 2.08.651.2,,prl version 21083). I am about to root as soon as I'm 100% sure of the procedure from start to finish. My question is, should i take any OTA updates before I root?,,,,,,,I'm fully aware of the risk in doing this, coming from the evo4g( really don't want to be stuck stock for months, while everyone else is flashing away),,,,I'm a firm believer of searching, before asking, but if there's a better software version to gain root from, I want to be running it.
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Take the OTA (2.17.651.5) then unlock with htc method.
If you unlock now and use cstom recovery, you will have to flash stock recovery in order to update to (2.17.651.5) latest OTA.
And it will also break root i think. so better update first then unlock then root.

I have some updated info put together from several posts that may help you on your tour if hboot 1.50
[Guide] My Hboot 1.50 HTC Unlock/recovery/rom/kernel flashing notes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495358
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mpgrimm2 said:
I have some updated info put together from several posts that may help you on your tour if hboot 1.50
[Guide] My Hboot 1.50 HTC Unlock/recovery/rom/kernel flashing notes http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1495358
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i think you have copied that link from another post of yours so it will not work as XDA automatically shortens the link with "...." so please replace the "show....php" with "showthread.php" or use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495358

Thanks man. I've been trying to figure it out for a while.
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mnomaanw said:
Take the OTA (2.17.651.5) then unlock with htc method.
If you unlock now and use cstom recovery, you will have to flash stock recovery in order to update to (2.17.651.5) latest OTA.
And it will also break root i think. so better update first then unlock then root.
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i tryed that and that didnt work for me. i saw in the command line that it was unlock but the phone never when to the unlock screen. what should i do

Thanks for the info, I read another member saying he had to relock to update then unlock again,,,I took the 2.17.651.5 OTA today and plan to root tonite,,,also thanks for the links!!

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Ok guys, I know it been posted numerous times but I'm so confused as to what to do. Reguading the new update what are the right steps, do I need to flash the firmware, Hboot etc?....do I relock ota then unlock and reroot? What is the proper method of updating? Again sorry and thanks so much I've always gotten great help here....
Hboot 1.5 s-on dev unlocked
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It seems you have to have the newest hboot to be able to run the new rom. However, I would wait a few days, maybe some of the devs can get around that.
Otherwise, it all depends on if you want to stay rooted or not. If you don't, then relock and go back to stock recovery, and take the OTA. If you do want to stay rooted, flash the new firmware and hboot, then flash the rooted stock rom.
sitlet said:
If you do want to stay rooted, flash the new firmware and hboot, then flash the rooted stock rom.
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I thought that s-on cannot just flash the new firmware without relocking first. I think you should get s-off first as it wool make things a lot easier for you.
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How Can I Flash New Radios with S-On?

I have Hboot 1.15, Fresh EVO OS. And used the Regaw Autoroot following the OTA Update. I heard you can do this using fastboot or HTCdev, but I'm not sure how to do this... And could not find any answers (My concern is that the new FRESH updates use the new radios, and I updated to it, but can't flash the new radios)
If this has already been answered I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
Thank you for the help!
Dude there's threads all over the forum about this issue. Just spend 2minutes looking and you'll be all set
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You can't update radios if you are s-on hboot 1.15. Your only option to update the radios is to relock and take the ota or install the new ruu. Then unlock again, install twrp, and then install your favorite rom. As many will state, never take the ota because you may loose ability to get s-off in the future. This may be true, but there is no s-off solution for your hboot anyway so you might as well bite the bullet now and live in the present instead of waiting for something that may never happen in the future.
Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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eddy0090 said:
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Rxpert said:
I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Then how do i proceed to relock my bootloader if I am 1.5 so i can receive the OTA?
Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
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Yup. Sorry about my response. I reread it and it does sound a harsh to me now. Anyways you got the info you need so good luck with your phone and sorry again
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om4 said:
Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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LOL - I've never seen you guide before, I will definetly open it print it/ and read it. It is appreciated.:highfive::good:
I'd also suggest against taking the ota, but that's just me.
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S-on hboot 1.12
Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
hppowers said:
Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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I'm a little bit hesitant to do that since I've read it can go crazy wrong and I'm not as savvy with the phones as the folks on the forums. Do I have to though in order to update my PRI?
I'm not sure, I've been s-off since I got the phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
I am S-ON HBoot 1.15. Is it possible to flash HTC Stock recovery, go to stock rooted rom, use OTA root Keeper and take the new OTA?
You don't need OTA root keeper because your going to have to do HTC dev to unlock the device again.
With that being said I wouldnt recommend taking the OTA or running the ruu to update because you'll be on the new hboot
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Not to mention the new base for stock has introduced a few of its own issues that the new firmware/hboot can not fix. Several people have attempted to downgrade thinking its the best alternative and brick their phones in doing so. The new firmware doesn't change much anyway

[Q] jelly bean/root question

Hi guys
I am unrooted and I want to root s-off before I do the jb ota update. Let me know if I am in the right direction, in order to do this, I need to unlock/root s-off with dirty racun as my h-boot is 1.19. (dont necessarily want to flash a rom just yet). then I relock (still being s-off) do the ota, and then unlock again, and root? This is just what I have learned from reading info in the forums. thanks
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Hi guys
I am unrooted and I want to root s-off before I do the jb ota update. Let me know if I am in the right direction, in order to do this, I need to unlock/root s-off with dirty racun as my h-boot is 1.19. (dont necessarily want to flash a rom just yet). then I relock (still being s-off) do the ota, and then unlock again, and root? This is just what I have learned from reading info in the forums. thanks
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Do not do it this way. You do not want the 2.09 h boot whether your are soff our not. Once you obtain soff ONLY FLASH RADIO FIRMWARE. I believe it's the first zip in captain throwback thread for the new firmware. Read before you do anything. There it's no need to ever change h boot. 2.09 gives problems even if u are soff.
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nikiva101 said:
Hi guys
I am unrooted and I want to root s-off before I do the jb ota update. Let me know if I am in the right direction, in order to do this, I need to unlock/root s-off with dirty racun as my h-boot is 1.19. (dont necessarily want to flash a rom just yet). then I relock (still being s-off) do the ota, and then unlock again, and root? This is just what I have learned from reading info in the forums. thanks
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Once you are S-OFF you don't have to take the OTA and the firmware you want is the file that does NOT include hboot,kernel,and stock recovery
On XHausX firmware thread it is the first file under firmware downloads and Capt_Throwback it's listed as Full firmware
Any questions shoot me a PM
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Once you are S-OFF you don't have to take the OTA and the firmware you want is the file that does NOT include hboot,kernel,and stock recovery
On XHausX firmware thread it is the first file under firmware downloads and Capt_Throwback it's listed as Full firmware
Any questions shoot me a PM
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^^^This.
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thanks everyone, my other evo was perfectly rooted but the touchscreen stopped working, so when I got this replacement one, the root method was different. Ive been reading up for about a month, so I tried to condense my question as much as possible. thanks for the help

Still a bit confused with the new OTA and what I should do.

I'm just learning that there is a new OTA. Whatever the case, I have not received it yet but am curious as to how I should handle it. This phone still confuses me a bit when it comes to unlocking etc.
Currently I am S-On, Rooted and running Shrike's PAC-Man rom. I kinda been lazy about staying up to date with everything and just got in my routine of flashing new releases.
Now i'm reading about this update and new hboot versions and wondering what I should be doing now. Should I accept the update in my current status or should I be doing something else to update? What about my hboot version, i'm still at 2.25. Should I be updating that myself or just take the OTA to handle it. My apologies if this is a redundant question.
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I'm just learning that there is a new OTA. Whatever the case, I have not received it yet but am curious as to how I should handle it. This phone still confuses me a bit when it comes to unlocking etc.
Currently I am S-On, Rooted and running Shrike's PAC-Man rom. I kinda been lazy about staying up to date with everything and just got in my routine of flashing new releases.
Now i'm reading about this update and new hboot versions and wondering what I should be doing now. Should I accept the update in my current status or should I be doing something else to update? What about my hboot version, i'm still at 2.25. Should I be updating that myself or just take the OTA to handle it. My apologies if this is a redundant question.
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First, the updated wont be pushed to you because you aren't on a sense rom, and i think the AOSP has the OTAkill.apk but i would need to look for it.
Second, the update is a good thing. not only does it have a new hboot but it has new radios, firmware and other goodies for the phone.
if you were to do the update, i wouldnt wait for VZW to push it. there is a zip that is in the development forum that you may flash to get the benefits of the update.
if you go down this route it will make the phone 100% stock. You would have to do the dev unlock with token and flash a recovery to get back to root status.
if you were to do this you also need to back up internal sd card just in case.
EDIT: Here are the steps you would take if you wanted to update the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40831457&postcount=59
credit goes to brenuga give him all the thanks you can.
synisterwolf said:
First, the updated wont be pushed to you because you aren't on a sense rom, and i think the AOSP has the OTAkill.apk but i would need to look for it.
Second, the update is a good thing. not only does it have a new hboot but it has new radios, firmware and other goodies for the phone.
if you were to do the update, i wouldnt wait for VZW to push it. there is a zip that is in the development forum that you may flash to get the benefits of the update.
if you go down this route it will make the phone 100% stock. You would have to do the dev unlock with token and flash a recovery to get back to root status.
if you were to do this you also need to back up internal sd card just in case.
EDIT: Here are the steps you would take if you wanted to update the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40831457&postcount=59
credit goes to brenuga give him all the thanks you can.
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Thanks and thank you brenuga. That clears things up for me.
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
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sk8bert12 said:
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
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Flash this in HBOOT. Only will work for s-off people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40767819&postcount=33
sk8bert12 said:
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
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You can be S-OFF and still get the OTA, you just have to be pure stock, or you can flash the files in the thread which Flyhalf posted below.
On my last Rezound, I flashed the updated hboot and radios while already S-OFF, rooted and running Nils' ROM. On my current ROM, I got the OTA downloaded while still pure stock, then unlocked bootloader, flashed Amon Ra, rooted, then got S-OFF. Obviously, if there are any subsequent OTA's, I'll have to wait for a flashable.
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Flash this in HBOOT. Only will work for s-off people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40767819&postcount=33
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Thanks for the link/post. But what does this exactly do to an S-Off Rezound? Will this update/install just the HBOOT/Radios?
I'm on Ineffabilis Deus v1.2 ICS 4.0.3. I believe this might have been from the leaked global ruu.
DigiDave said:
Thanks for the link/post. But what does this exactly do to an S-Off Rezound? Will this update/install just the HBOOT/Radios?
I'm on Ineffabilis Deus v1.2 ICS 4.0.3. I believe this might have been from the leaked global ruu.
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That was from the Global Leak. But the zip will just update firmware such as hboot and radio and few other stuff
I'm s-off. If I flash the latest RUU (whatever it is), then get the new global OTA update, I will retain my s-off-ness, correct? I'll just have to re-root and flash a recovery?
rsage said:
I'm s-off. If I flash the latest RUU (whatever it is), then get the new global OTA update, I will retain my s-off-ness, correct? I'll just have to re-root and flash a recovery?
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No zip file of any kind will get you back to s-on. you must use fastboot to write to the secure flag. FYI

Just got a new HTC one was told soff is patched with 1.27.531.11

Just wanted some Insight
I got a new but preowned one from a guy he mentioned that it got s update ..some update recently for the software that patches the ability to soff .
What did this update supposedly fix or add?
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lojak29 said:
Just wanted some Insight
I got a new but preowned one from a guy he mentioned that it got s update ..some update recently for the software that patches the ability to soff .
What did this update supposedly fix or add?
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I am guessing it is for Tmobile?
I have that same version.
It disables revone or moonshine for working so essentially s-off.
I was able to still unlock the bootloader via HTCDev and root using TWRP and SuperSU.
Not really sure what s-off does, since I am able to load custom roms and etc. with current setup anyways....
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S-off lets us convert to the full GPE version and get ota. I hope devs find a way of getting s-off on 531.11
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Htein said:
I am guessing it is for Tmobile?
I have that same version.
It disables revone or moonshine for working so essentially s-off.
I was able to still unlock the bootloader via HTCDev and root using TWRP and SuperSU.
Not really sure what s-off does, since I am able to load custom roms and etc. with current setup anyways....
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s-off is security check off. it stops the bootloader from checking for signatures pretty much letting you flash Whatever aslong as the recovery accepts it. can also turn off the recoveries signature check but thats alot easier to do as the recovery alows you to do so freely.
And anyone wouldnt happen to know more info on this would they. as ive noticed sense i did the manual OTA update via HTC's site, regaining s-off is proving to be imensley didficult. "i s-on'd whiel debugging things and regret it lol"
From what I have been able to gather the updated 1.44 or 1.54 cannot be s-offed using revone or moonshine currently.
I'm pretty happy right now, all I care about is GPe 4.3 anyways. Running of 4.3 ROM, firmware, and radio with just unlocked boot loader
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