I have a kindle fire and am considering a nook tablet, but I'm wondering does the speaker in the NT really sound as bad as people are saying? How is it compared to an iPod touch?
I don't have an iPod, but I have no complaints about it.
I've got all three of these in my home. Fire best, iPOD next, Tablet sucks
Thanks, i'm prob going to wait for the Asus mimo then. Although the Asus transformer speakers really sucked too.
No, I don't think the speaker is that bad. I think the internal settings/controls on the stock tablet are what disappoint a lot of people. I wasn't happy either until I installed the Volume+ app. I don't have any complaints since.
rwischer said:
No, I don't think the speaker is that bad. I think the internal settings/controls on the stock tablet are what disappoint a lot of people. I wasn't happy either until I installed the Volume+ app. I don't have any complaints since.
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Ditto. The volume is just way to low on the nt.
That being said, I tried the volume + app and didn't see a difference. Maybe I just don't know how to use the app though. What settings are you using on this app to get more volume? All it seemed to let me do is control the volume for alarm, ringer, notification, etc.
I really find that to be an interesting position to take on whether or not you will buy the Nook tablet - not that I really care either way if you buy one or not as I am certainly not B&N employee or anything.
I own an iPad, a NT, and have owned an iTouch in the past. Frankly, I wouldn't want to listen to any of these devices through their internal speaker. They are all very small and can only provide a miniature tin can version of sound.
However, I will say that any of these sound great with headphones and can easily be improved with decent set of portable speakers plugged in.
Just my two cents on the subject...
Well, i was going to let my dad watch movies on it, he's 84 years old, he won't use headphones.
I got the kindle fire, and really liked it but the space is so too limited so i'm returning it.
I was going to get the NT, but the speaker sucks, and personally i don't like the larger form factor for a 7" tablet.
I would get the galaxy 7" but it's too expensive.
Guess i'll have to wait. Thanks for the input everyone.
all you guys have to remember that this was meant for
READING (but who wants to do that)
not modding the crap out of it.
424aca said:
all you guys have to remember that this was meant for
READING (but who wants to do that)
not modding the crap out of it.
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Lol, wrong place to tell people not to mod it buddy, were in the android development forum
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The on-board speaker for every device I've ever tried out is crap for watching anything. I suspect my father (65) would just toss it in a drawer and it wouldn't be heard from again until one of my nieces steals it.
That complaint aside, have you considered getting whichever tablet you think will actually be the easiest for him to operate and just getting him a set of those plug-in speakers which just mount on top (or the side depending on how you're holding it)?
Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Porta...96/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1330738941&sr=8-66
If he's going to be seated in the same place while watching a regular set of computer speaker may be preferable.
CRE said:
The on-board speaker for every device I've ever tried out is crap for watching anything. I suspect my father (65) would just toss it in a drawer and it wouldn't be heard from again until one of my nieces steals it.
That complaint aside, have you considered getting whichever tablet you think will actually be the easiest for him to operate and just getting him a set of those plug-in speakers which just mount on top (or the side depending on how you're holding it)?
Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Porta...96/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1330738941&sr=8-66
If he's going to be seated in the same place while watching a regular set of computer speaker may be preferable.
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Hmm interesting find, has anyone used it?. Another alternative is to get yourself an Aux cable so you can plug your NT to most of all music player, i have that setup in my car .
~ Veronica
They're pretty easy to find in my area. They're not great, I'm sure, but at least they point in the right direction!
Get the volume + app if you're running cm7 or rooted. Its really great. Can't believe I lived without it for so long.
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Get the volume + app if you're running cm7 or rooted. Its really great. Can't believe I lived without it for so long.
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I have CM7 and tried Volume+ but didn't notice any difference. Not sure it installed right though because it kept asking me to "agree" to the license agreement every time I started the app. Are there any tricks to the install?
The speaker (one) in the nook tablet is very poor, low in level, and monaural. A cable into a stereo aux-in for car or whatever is a big, loud, stereo solution for almost no money. Streaming output audio over wifi to clients on the net will keep you wireless, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23135348 post is looking to port MPD (music player daemon) to android, and there are no doubt others.
SpeakerBoost
I happened upon an app in the Amazon market called SpeakerBoost. I also found it on Google Play. This app actually works, and it is FREE.
It allows you to adjust the maximum volume output for any android device. I loaded it on both my Nook Tablet, and my OneV. The difference is like night and day. I was able to watch a movie on my Nook without having any external speaker plugged in. IMHO, that is one big plus. I don't have to carry around an extra speaker when I travel anymore. :victory: And if I choose to attach the external speaker, it is Much Louder than before.
I'd say that this app is a real find.
Since they don't have this app in the Nook app store, you will have to root your device in order to even get this app.
Related
I know someone was going to beat me putting the nookcolor as a car stereo if I didn't hurry to do it but much respect for the guy that did this first . I worked on my Nookcolor, installing it as a car stereo this weekend on my 2004 Gmc envoy and still modifying my dash to make it blend in. Running Nookie Froyo.Now to work on developing a car stereo app will be great with build in FM radio and visualizer and equalizer. I'm barely learning how to develop apps reading some books on android app development and Java to make my app come to life but I do not have a lot of time, with school and work one tends to get a bit frustrated and tired. I'm hoping some one can help me out with my idea of an app if its not yet on the works. I was inspired byAndroid and everyone here in the XDA community to try and make some great ideas come to life. Android 100% right here
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First video preview of set up running Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 sorry i recorded this at night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHQphUtmYs
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Until an actual interface adapter is made to bypass sound and volume control from the vehicle wiring to just a plain rca cable with 3.5mm Jack, I intend to use my tab as is. I will come up with new ideas tho.
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NOOKCOLOR Indash Stereo
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Test in dash v2.2
Rom: NookieFroyo 0.6.8(reverted to NookieFroyo for livewallpaper and video support since PhiremodCM7 does not have it yet)
Apps:
Pandora Radio
mVideoPlayer(im having issues with this app, sometimes video shows normally then next time video gets slow)
Button Savior(I replaced Softkeys with ButtonSavior)
Media Volume Bar Widget
WidgetLocker Lockscreen
ADWLauncher EX
Beautiful Widgets
Gauge Battery Widget
MortPlayer
PowerAMP
museek
StayAwake
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Test in dash v2.1(overclocked)
Still same as v2 just added a couple more apps to make feel a bit more like indash stereo.
Apps Added:
Stayawake(this works great so far on phiremodCM7 plug in USB cable and screen stays on, very stereo like feeling, better yet it dims out to save battery but still stays awake)
Last FM(working so far)
ADW Ex launcher
Miren browser(Browser of Choice)
Apps removed:
TuneIn radio(The app started giving me trouble and forcing close, worked for a while tho.)
Apps not working so far:
YouTube or flash( Flash and video playback does not work as stated before but I'm pretty sure it will soon. I tried watching transformers 2 to see how it looked and did not work on phiremod CM7 yet.)
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Test in dash v2
Changed Nook Rom to:
Phiremod CM7 (looks great very responsive, hotspot data connectivity way faster with my HTC EVO on 3g not on 4g. Will test on 4g to see how much faster it connects but no youtube)
Apps Using and still testing:
TuneIn Radio for local stations(since no bluetooth)
PowerAmp (using this app because has build in EQ and song can be change with finger swipe)
Pandora(running 100%)
MortPlayer (still sounds good but prefer PowerAmp because of the look and EQ ) "DSP Manger still doesnt work"
I still need to add volume and mute widgets.
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Test in dash v1
Nookie Froyo 6.7 (Did not test 6.8 yet)
Using PowerAmp app as main choice for stereo. It includes EQ settings.
MortPlayer Installed
Pandora Installed, works great if connected to phone hotspot.
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Apps that I'm trying to develop.
IndashStereo App.
With Navigation compatibility.
YouTube video compatibility.
Bluetooth compatibility if tab comes with it. Probably all tabs will for now on.
Facebook and tweeter song share buttons.
Meaby traffic updates.
IndashStereo Remote
This is another app I want to develop which I will need Bluetooth.
Should have Bluetooth compatibility to connect your Android Phone to connect to Indash Stereo app on the tab so you can share music and use the phone as remote control for app.
Suggestions and opinions are welcome.
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I tend to like doubletwist. May want to give that a try. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for.
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FM radio might be a dead end for you, I'm pretty sure hardware investigations revealed that the FM chip isn't equipped with a antenna or wired to the headphones for use as an antenna. Perhaps once bluetooth is working you could pair it with some sort of bluetooth radio?
Looks nice though, have you thought of applying a black theme to make look even more smooth with your car?
It sucks no FM. I'm hoping someone does get Bluetooth working FM and navigation would work with that, it would be great. A black theme would look nice, I'm still exploring a lot of things with the nook like cm7 and honeycomb see how everything would work with that. I did this as a prototype I say. Later on I might change the nookcolor for something else but same size. I still want to develop an app for car stereo and such for any tab. I know it wount be easy but nothing is impossible specially here in XDA
SuperHTCEvo
Syco54645 said:
I tend to like doubletwist. May want to give that a try. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for.
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Its not that hard to do you just need time. Took me a whole Saturday to do this and I'm not done yet. Lol but seems to work and sounds great. I'm always open to suggestions and better ideas.
SuperHTCEvo
Apps that I'm trying to develop.
IndashStereo App.
With Navigation compability.
YouTube video compability.
Bluetooth compability if tab comes with it. Probably all tabs will for now on.
Facebook and tweeter song share buttons.
Meaby traffic updates.
IndashStereo Remote
This is another app I want to develop which I will need Bluetooth.
Should have Bluetooth compability to connect your Android Phone to connect to Indash Stereo app on the tab so you can share music and use the phone as remote control for app.
Suggestions and opinions are welcome.
SuperHTCEvo
I'm happy to see this thread, thanks for taking the time to share your work, JCAndroid.
I had a carpc for a few years; after getting fed up with FluxMedia's treatment of the hobbyist community as well as some issues due to outdated hardware, I returned to the stock radio when I got my Droid. The Droid provided most of the functionality of the carpc, however, I do occasionally miss having a carpc though, and I have thought about using the NC in the same manner.
The main drawback for me at this time is lack of navigation. If Bluetooth was usable, then this would obviously be a moot point as the navigation could be achieved using BT GPS.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing your progress and thanks again the thread.
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I'm happy to see this thread, thanks for taking the time to share your work, JCAndroid.
I had a carpc for a few years; after getting fed up with FluxMedia's treatment of the hobbyist community as well as some issues due to outdated hardware, I returned to the stock radio when I got my Droid. The Droid provided most of the functionality of the carpc, however, I do occasionally miss having a carpc though, and I have thought about using the NC in the same manner.
The main drawback for me at this time is lack of navigation. If Bluetooth was usable, then this would obviously be a moot point as the navigation could be achieved using BT GPS.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing your progress and thanks again the thread.
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I was looking at carpc's also but found it to complecated to do at least for me but it works. When I saw Android tabs were available I saw the chance to do this. I had wanted to this with a galaxy tab but to pricey, but I found my self with the NookColor and once there was a way to rooted I came up with something ofcourse I know other people have put tabs as indash stereos its much easier to use than carpc but would be better with an actual car stereo app. If Bluetooth would work on the Nook we would have more useable stuff I hope someone gets it to work. I'm just trying to come up with something new. Right now I use my Evo 4G as my navigation device. But thanks for the support motivation helps a lot.
SuperHTCEvo
looks cool, might be funny to watch my subs shake the nook to death lol
any update on this?
as of right now, w/out using phone wifi hotspot - i don't see any purpose to this.
it has no line-in for using a media player with more storage.
once it's installed better, you won't have much access to swap out the microsd for updating your music.
there are no applications that compare to anything that a carpc can do.
i would much rather a standard in dash cd player then leave my nook in the car.
i'm having a hard time understanding the point of this... if you have a phone that can do wifi hotspot, then your phone can run pandora and plug into the line in of a standard stereo... and probably sound a whole lot better...
xtravbx said:
i'm having a hard time understanding the point of this... if you have a phone that can do wifi hotspot, then your phone can run pandora and plug into the line in of a standard stereo... and probably sound a whole lot better...
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Don't over think it, it's just cool. A lot of cars nowadays come with a similar sized touch screen that runs the stereo. This is a great idea to do just because we can. Thumbs up to you sir.
rudygetz said:
Don't over think it, it's just cool. A lot of cars nowadays come with a similar sized touch screen that runs the stereo. This is a great idea to do just because we can. Thumbs up to you sir.
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sorry didn't mean to be a downer. Just a crappy day at work and my bad mood is coming up, instead of being supportive.
Let's see what you can make happen with this!
Update Peeps!
Yea you can use a carpc and it can be better but it is just something new to try. You can use your phone but sound has no difference believe me I did a number of test and if your worried about leaving it in the car at night there is no problem it gets pitch dark you can even see it but the point is that you want something portable and cool, that is why i did this mod.
I updated to to Phiremod CM7 and let me tell you hotspot connectivity is way faster but youtube doesnt work. So far so good. Still testing it.
Since. No! Bluetooth im using TuneIn Radio App and works nice on Phiremod CM7 with my HTC Evo hotspot on 3G Not on 4G so it can be much faster but will try.
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looks cool, might be funny to watch my subs shake the nook to death lol
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Lol my does not shake. I have two 12" Kickers with a 700w pioneer amp. It pounds but the Nook stays intact. Well at least with my dock.
Do you have any power management going on? I couldn't tell but I would imagine if you did some sort of modification to the power cord so it would be as flush as possible to the dash and ran it to a USB car charger, you could theoretically make it so all you had to do was slide the Nook in from right to left, thereby connecting it to the charger as it is secured.
I personally have begun to explore the possibilities of using it as a carpc myself. I'm planning a drive down to Florida from New York in April and I'm hoping to use it as a the Nav/Media hub (I have a GPS, Pioneer BT sound system with an amp, and there will be two Dincs in the car but still, you can't beat a 7" version of any of those). I''l either be mounting it in my Civic or my Altima, depending on which we decide to use. The Civic as much better DIY mounting possibilities, and I've already drawn up some ideas. The only thing I'm waiting for is the BT
EDIT: For comparision, here is the link that shows the inside of my Civic, and if you Google the interior to a 2007 Altima, you'll see how theres little to no possibilities for mounting without cutting into anything.
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Do you have any power management going on? I couldn't tell but I would imagine if you did some sort of modification to the power cord so it would be as flush as possible to the dash and ran it to a USB car charger, you could theoretically make it so all you had to do was slide the Nook in from right to left, thereby connecting it to the charger as it is secured.
I personally have begun to explore the possibilities of using it as a carpc myself. I'm planning a drive down to Florida from New York in April and I'm hoping to use it as a the Nav/Media hub (I have a GPS, Pioneer BT sound system with an amp, and there will be two Dincs in the car but still, you can't beat a 7" version of any of those). I''l either be mounting it in my Civic or my Altima, depending on which we decide to use. The Civic as much better DIY mounting possibilities, and I've already drawn up some ideas. The only thing I'm waiting for is the BT
EDIT: For comparision, here is the link that shows the inside of my Civic, and if you Google the interior to a 2007 Altima, you'll see how theres little to no possibilities for mounting without cutting into anything.
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O that's right I never mentioned what I did for power management. I use to have a Kenwood double din stereo with 6.5" screen but took that off. I had to cut and trim in order to put my dock were the stereo was. I used the nookcolor leather case and cur it, I was going to make a dock myself like the way the HTC Evo car dock is but I just wanted to try this like this first. Then I went and bought me a cheaper stereo. The stereo I put it in the passenger compartment box that's y you don't see it on the pics, it is hidden. I modified my compartment box also, I had to cut and trim the back of it to run cables out and to make space for a small computer fan for the the heat of the stereo to be exhausted out. When I dock my Nook I just plug my 3.5mm headphone Jack and USB charger. I'm still trying to modify the connector of the USB charger, I don't like the cable just hanging there. But works great so far.
SuperHTCEvo
Since DSP manegers EQ does not work I'm going to try and see if the new LifeVibes app works later on.
SuperHTCEvo
what are you using to hold the nook in place around the edges?
i'm thinking of making my own 'case' and just contemplating different types of ways to hold my nook in place.
btw: from one fellow hardware modder to another - very awesome work.
pointless or not somethings are just to cool to not try.
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what are you using to hold the nook in place around the edges?
i'm thinking of making my own 'case' and just contemplating different types of ways to hold my nook in place.
btw: from one fellow hardware modder to another - very awesome work.
pointless or not somethings are just to cool to not try.
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Thanks for the complement.
Before I did the mod I went looking on eBay for case holders but none of them looked as durable as the original NookColor leather case holder, so I bought the the leather case holder for the NookColor it was pricey but I took a chance and used it to incorporate it to my dash. What I did was cut the holder and just use that as the mount dock. So far it has been working really good throughout bumbs and speedhumps it stays intact in its mount holder. I'm still thinking of changing it tho to a better looking angle or adding angle adjustments.
SuperHTCEvo
I imagine if done well such a mod would be an excellent complement to any dash while garnering many compliments from passengers (even would be thieves).
Hi there,
I'm looking for a line-level output for my Galaxy 7.7.
I can't seem to find anything that specifically mentions the 7.7 but have read that the 30 pin Samsung connector is compatible across all devices.
There are line level outputs on eBay (sorry, can't post links yet) that say they work with the galaxy tab P1000 and other galaxy tabs... Will these work with the 7.7?
What I would ideally like is something that will allow me to attach a USB DAC to the device to bypass the Galaxy DAC... but until we get ICS that's not going to happen (and I have my fingers crossed that ICS will actually allow for it)
Thanks,
Paul
NikonUser said:
Hi there,
I'm looking for a line-level output for my Galaxy 7.7.
I can't seem to find anything that specifically mentions the 7.7 but have read that the 30 pin Samsung connector is compatible across all devices.
There are line level outputs on eBay (sorry, can't post links yet) that say they work with the galaxy tab P1000 and other galaxy tabs... Will these work with the 7.7?
What I would ideally like is something that will allow me to attach a USB DAC to the device to bypass the Galaxy DAC... but until we get ICS that's not going to happen (and I have my fingers crossed that ICS will actually allow for it)
Thanks,
Paul
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as of ics 4.0.3 on sgs2 there is still no support for usb dac looking forward to seeing a usb dac working on adroid phones also
I bought something from amazon and got audio out. The video out does not work however. I will send it to you in a PM since this site won't let me post the link due to me having less than 8 posts.
I would absolutely LOVE a feature that bypasses the internal DAC. Is that kind of thing really available via ICS? If so ... I might have just made a mess in my pants
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I bought something from amazon and got audio out. The video out does not work however. I will send it to you in a PM since this site won't let me post the link due to me having less than 8 posts.
I would absolutely LOVE a feature that bypasses the internal DAC. Is that kind of thing really available via ICS? If so ... I might have just made a mess in my pants
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Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
You can keep your pants mess free for now. After doing a bit of reading it appears that ICS didn't enable USB host mode for audio like everyone thought it would. It is very high on the list of official feature requests/bug reports on the google code site. If you can find it then go and vote for it. Maybe Google will listen and offer an update soon.
Fingers crossed.
Paul
Ok... you want to output sound from your tablet to other equipment, right? Start by turning the volume down in the tablet, connect the headphones output of the tablet to the input of the device you want, start raising the volume to a little bit under clipping level of your other device, or before you hear distorted sound. When you're done, just start recording or whatever you are trying to do.
Anyway, there's no point to have a digital or high quality audio output in a tablet because they're not designed for that, even if you do it before DAC, your files are compresed (MP3, etc) right? . Do you have an extremely high quality song in your device?, if you do, you're probably a sound engineer, a professional musician or an audiophile and if that's the case you'll transfer the media to a more professional device or a dedicated media player.
For example, those cellphones that have hdmi output, yes is a good idea to connect it to your TV right? now, do you think the video you are playing through it has a great sound quality? NO, specially if it's some internet video... Putting things more simple: the audio quality of the actual media that's coming out your tablet 98% of the time does not have the quality to merit a digital/high end connection.
Now, there's a brand called COWON that has the best sound quality in media players, (Yes, best sound quality by far over Aple, Samsung, Sony, you name it, this is not because I say so, do some research and you'll be surprised) they don't make Tabs sorry. So if you really are concerned about audio quality, you should convert your music to Flac instead of MP3 and go for a device like that, otherwise you are wasting your money in technology when your source doesn't have the quality to match it.
You see what I mean? a Tablet is a portable all in one device, for high end video and sound you need a more dedicated device
Do they have a cellphone or tablet with a hdmi output? what do they have in there? a Bluray movie? it would be soooo compressed that it loses the point of having a HDMI output.... why? because compression equals lower quality. So it's like having a Ferrari with bicycle wheels... Doesn't matter what the vendors tell you, to have a HDMI output in a cellphone it's just ridiculous, and whoever has it they probably use it a couple of times and they forgot about it because there's really no point on that. The only thing I can think of having a HDMI output in a tablet is maybe someone that needs to make a video presentation, maybe through a projector, something like that, and you don't need high end audio for that. The Tablet makers don't care if 1 person out of a million needs it, would you? And... Actually do they really need that? or it's more to impress their girlfriend or a neighbour? F*** That!! Right?
I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I'm just trying to help you understand that it really is pointless....
The technology will evolve eventually and we will have better audio hardware in our tablets.... and a lot more memory to have those HD files that we really can't right now...But by then,,,, are you going to enjoy that quality in a $14.99 headphones?
With all this I'm not saying be happy with the crappy sound your device could have. I actually returned a few days ago a Galaxy Player 4.0 because I didn't like it's sound quality, I'm buying (when it comes out) a Cowon Z2..... can't wait. (if I have the money by then)
Take care guys, I hope I helped a least a little...
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Ok... you want to output sound from your tablet to other equipment, right?
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Right.
Dusko75 said:
Start by turning the volume down in the tablet, connect the headphones output of the tablet to the input of the device you want, start raising the volume to a little bit under clipping level of your other device, or before you hear distorted sound. When you're done, just start recording or whatever you are trying to do.
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The whole idea of getting a line-level output would be to bypass the internal (low quality) amp of the tablet and NOT have to play around with the volume trying to avoid clipping etc
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Anyway, there's no point to have a digital or high quality audio output in a tablet because they're not designed for that, even if you do it before DAC, your files are compresed (MP3, etc) right? .
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Eer, no. They are uncompressed FLAC files.
Maybe there is no point in YOUR tablet having a digital or high quality output... but that is NOT the case for me. Ideally I would like to hook the tablet up to an external DAC and/or Headphone amp (ideally a DAC and amp) and using it as a highly mobile, high quality source to listen to some high-end headphones for when I am away from home for a while.
Dusko75 said:
Do you have an extremely high quality song in your device?, if you do, you're probably a sound engineer, a professional musician or an audiophile and if that's the case you'll transfer the media to a more professional device or a dedicated media player.
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Yes I do, and no I am not a sound engineer or a pro musician. I wouldn't consider myself an audiophile either, but I do enjoy audio and would like to do so when I am away from my home setup.
Dusko75 said:
For example, those cellphones that have hdmi output, yes is a good idea to connect it to your TV right? now, do you think the video you are playing through it has a great sound quality? NO, specially if it's some internet video... Putting things more simple: the audio quality of the actual media that's coming out your tablet 98% of the time does not have the quality to merit a digital/high end connection.
Now, there's a brand called COWON that has the best sound quality in media players, (Yes, best sound quality by far over Aple, Samsung, Sony, you name it, this is not because I say so, do some research and you'll be surprised) they don't make Tabs sorry. So if you really are concerned about audio quality, you should convert your music to Flac instead of MP3 and go for a device like that, otherwise you are wasting your money in technology when your source doesn't have the quality to match it.
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OK... I used to have a COWON D2. It was great. I now have a tablet and don't want to carry around heaps of devices and associated chargers if possible.
Dusko75 said:
You see what I mean? a Tablet is a portable all in one device, for high end
video and sound you need a more dedicated device
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No you don't. If Google would enable us to attach a USB DAC via a software update then you wouldn't need anything more than a tablet and good quality files. Failing that a line-out that bypasses the internal amp would suffice for most.
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Do they have a cellphone or tablet with a hdmi output? what do they have in there? a Bluray movie? it would be soooo compressed that it loses the point of having a HDMI output.... why? because compression equals lower quality. So it's like having a Ferrari with bicycle wheels... Doesn't matter what the vendors tell you, to have a HDMI output in a cellphone it's just ridiculous, and whoever has it they probably use it a couple of times and they forgot about it because there's really no point on that. The only thing I can think of having a HDMI output in a tablet is maybe someone that needs to make a video presentation, maybe through a projector, something like that, and you don't need high end audio for that. The Tablet makers don't care if 1 person out of a million needs it, would you? And... Actually do they really need that? or it's more to impress their girlfriend or a neighbour? F*** That!! Right?
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With high capacity storage cards it is very possible to fit a couple of uncompressed bluray movies on your phone... or even more if you compress them. You can get VERY high quality movies to fit in 5-10GB of space these days. Although I don't have a use for it, I can certainly see how people might want to hook up a phone to a big TV and watch a movie via HDMI in GREAT quality.
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I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I'm just trying to help you understand that it really is pointless....
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Certainly no offence taken here, although I think you haven't really thought about all the possibilities that all the users of tablets and phones around the world might need.
Dusko75 said:
The technology will evolve eventually and we will have better audio hardware in our tablets.... and a lot more memory to have those HD files that we really can't right now...But by then,,,, are you going to enjoy that quality in a $14.99 headphones?
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With a digital output or bypassing the little internal amplifier the quality right now is just fine. You can fit plenty on a 64GB storage card.
My headphones cost more than 30x the price you quoted.
Dusko75 said:
With all this I'm not saying be happy with the crappy sound your device could have. I actually returned a few days ago a Galaxy Player 4.0 because I didn't like it's sound quality, I'm buying (when it comes out) a Cowon Z2..... can't wait. (if I have the money by then)
Take care guys, I hope I helped a least a little...
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Not really, but thanks for taking the time to reply.
Paul
Eer, I did mention about FLAC files (yes uncompressed). mmmm.. If I'm going to to attach some other devices to extract and process the digital audio from my tab I rather use a good media player for that and wait till the audio Hardware of the (future) tabs gets to a decent level. (And yes, I know what you mean with extracting the digital signal before DAC).
I like to have different specific devices for different things. I hope that tomorrow they really get into making great sound quality hardware for this android devices (that goes to I-pod-pad too) like Cowon does, in the meantime I'm happy with other devices to get the job done. Probably that's why what you are trying to do doesn't make sense to me having so many other and better options. But as you said, that's ME.
Ironically Cowon already got into Android, but there has to be something in its hardware that makes it the best. (I don't know if its JetEffects is hardware/software or only software).
I think the big difference here is that I don't see myself doing that kind of thing with a tablet, I rather use something else. That doesn't mean I can't change my mind in the future with the (almost) everyday newer and newer technology....
Am I right and you are wrong? NO, we're both right with the way we want to do our stuff, as long as we are happy with our results.
Nice talking/discussing with you.
Someone posted this in another forum, that'll work for you if your other device supports HDMI.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TLKR1C/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
Ok, so I have the Samsung Galaxy SIII. The US variant may not have the Wolfson DAC, but I don't care. As much as people deify Wolfson, this thing sounds absolutely amazing all the same and I love it. In fact, I love its sound more than that of any player I've had, soundcard/DAC + amp, and so on. Not all will agree I'm sure, but to me it's just that good. The really neat thing is, it sounds amazing just on its own driving my HD555s directly (well, they are pretty sensitive.) It doesn't seem like anything is lacking in any frequency range, the soundstage is great, and so on. There's just one problem: that god-awful volume control! It only has seven or so positions so I frequently find that it's just plain wrong. It's either just quiet enough to be annoying with the balance a bit off or it's just loud enough to be physically painful to my ears. There's no in between.
I keep playing around with various solutions, but still haven't found anything that could be called 100%. Firstly, I've been using MP3Gain to change the volume level of my MP3s in a basically lossless manner (it just changes the frame volume setting without reencoding) but this is kind of a pain because I have a few other formats in my library still. Well, I primarily use PowerAmp and it recently added ReplayGain support, but... Something is just plain wrong with its ReplayGain support I think. It seems to be lowering even things that are already set to 89dB thanks to MP3Gain for starters (and the ReplayGain tag basically says +/- 0dB or at least it's no more than 1.5dB when it says to change it -- yes I remembered to remove the ReplayGain tags and rescan all of my collection after changing the volume via MP3Gain and it's worth noting that Foobar2000 on my PC has absolutely no trouble whatsoever.) Worse, the whole point of using it was to try to get it just right, so I add just a bit of gain (initially +3dB, but I think I've tried other values trying to get things just right) and it just seems to be way off. Regardless, I just haven't been able to find a value that's quite right for dealing with the issue either positive or negative. (And negative has its own troubles since it means I have the volume maxed or close to it and then something else blasts my ears at full volume...)
So more recently I got the idea to try one of those in-line volume controls. It's nothing more than an audio tapering volume pot and two 3.5mm connectors (one female with at least the decency to be gold plated but as it was soldered into the board and there was very little room to work with I left alone, the other I replaced from the original low quality connector and cable to a very short bit of Canare L-4E6S + Rean 3.5mm male connector.) The problem is, I ended up with roughly 200 ohms being the "just right" volume setting and that wasn't even far down on the pot. Unfortunately, the end result is a sound where the bass is bloated and just plain bad, the mids are recessed thanks in part to the bass, the highs are pitiful, and the soundstage is basically gone. Well, it's not meant to drive these headphones through what ends up being an impedance adapter. Regardless the result was horrible.
I've also tried third party apps that try to take over the volume control and give you a finer control including the demo version of a commercial one that I've seen suggested elsewhere in these forums. Nope. The result there was actually kind of interesting. It not only didn't work, but it seemed to actually be rounding to the OS's nearest value and pretending to give me a fine control instead... Frankly I'm just not sure that there is any way such an app can actually give one such control as it gave me the impression that basically the OS was overriding it in the end and that while it surely thought it was doing something it wasn't really.
I just can't seem to get through to any of the people on the software side of things. I've suggested to the author of PowerAmp that the program should have its own volume control to compensate for the crappy OS volume control, but no response. I've suggested in the CyanogenMod forums (I'm not sure where else) but only one person responded and that just to agree. No one seems to even be really looking at the suggestion, but then it's forums, not any proper suggestion form. Which is just pitiful because CM has generally always been good for compensating for these types of things that Google misses. Really I don't know what else to do though.
The whole situation is pitiful. How in the world have they managed to go through so many years and so many versions of Android with this horrible volume control? I know it at least dates back to Android 2.2 because I used to have an Archos 43 with the same issue. Ok, I understand that in the past people weren't really using them for music a lot, but these days a lot of people do and it can be a pain to carry an amp with you all the time. (Besides, why in the heck should I have to use an amp when it can drive my headphones directly perfectly fine AND I like the sound? It's just wasteful...)
Anyway, is there any solution left to try that I haven't thought of? My SGS3 is running CyanogenMod, so suffice it to say that it is definitely fully rooted to the point that I can even remount the root and system partitions as writable if I want to, so I can do just about anything in that respect, but at this point I can't find any other options to try.
You can skip to the TLDR section if you dont want background and "my story".
BACKGROUND INFO:
As many of you faithful note users know, as of right now there is a HUGE bug with CM, the OEM cardock and the Galaxy Note (and iirc the S2/S3 as well). The USB audio redirection just flat out doesnt work with CM. Yes, I do know that the headphone jack works. However, in my case that simply doesnt work for a couple reasons: 1) The factory dock 3.5mm audio plug is a 90 degree angle plug head. When plugging in the back it makes the appearance smooth, however this angle causes a problem with the headphone jack placement. If you reroute this plug to your headphone hole it will bind on the actual OEM dock. If you have a dock, you know what I am talking about. You end up with shotty sound quality, possibly mono output, and its just overall sketchy. Not to mention a PITA to do in the dark. 2) My dock is routed all through my dash so for me to get enough slack, I have to basically rip my dash apart. With me taking a 300 mile road trip this week, wanting to use CM10.1 was pretty much out of the question as this issue is pretty much a deal breaker....or WAS!
My Story:
I personally drive an Infinity G35, 2006 model. This car is equipped with "hands free Bluetooth" but not the streaming radio Bluetooth. Basically it's a glorified ear bud that redirects calls only, through my speakers in my car over BT. I thought to myself, "hey lets find an app that would trick my car in to thinking Media output is a phone call". So I searched, and found a few apps that did this. Overall impressions were pretty much sketchy in functionality on the first few I tried. Also, the sound quality at best is comparable to a tin can speaker as alot of these types of apps do MONO redirected output only. After trying a few apps I said eff it and was about to give up. I decided to give it one more market search and give one more of these "Bluetooth apps" a shot. By chance, I found one called SoundAbout. That is the link to the free version on the market. I noticed it had a bluetooth out feature and purchased the paid version to check it out. After jacking with the settings I eventually got frustrated again with the bluetooth out and was close to saying eff it again. Before quitting I realized that from "stock" settings of the app, it would decide on how to redirect the audio all by itself. I said, "ahh why not?" and gave the default config settings a spin. I loaded pandora, slapped the phone in the dock, not really expecting anything "new" or any changes but OMFG IT WORKED! I thought to myself, "Are my ears deceiving me? Do I hear HIGH quality audio through my speakers using my car dock and CM10.1!?" Yes, yes I did.
TLDR:
1) Download this app: SoundAbout
2) Launch app, take default settings to "let app decide" how to route audio for media.
3) Launch Pandora/PlayMusic/Apollo/wtfever poison you got to listen to musics.
4) Profit and possibly dance a jig in your car while sporting CM10.1 and the OEM dock
5) This is optional of course, but I thought it was much necessary as this a life saver for me: Donate to the author of the app- buy his "full version" here, it's a $2.99 well spent(or was for me).
Now the next question is how in the hell do we get this guy in touch with a CM dev to see what the hell he did to FIX THIS ISSUE!!!!???? If he can do it with an app, there has to be a way to natively do it as well, right? But again, this is why I'm downloading the app and not making one/doing commits to CM myself.
OK, working with the dev on the app to possibly help other users. Bad thing is now my original install doesn't work. I'll try to figure out how I got it going and will reply back....
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Works with my 09 370z w / Nav. Ty!!!
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Thanks so much for replying and confirming it's good for you too.
I thought I was going crazy yesterday morning when it wouldn't work anymore. Turns out my Bluetooth locked up and jacked my entire system- rebooting fixed it.
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Does it work on release 7? Mine stopped. Are you running 4aces kernel?
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Not sure about release 7? I am running whatever version was released the 25th, I think 6? Running Jamie's kernel that it shipped with.
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Not sure about release 7? I am running whatever version was released the 25th, I think 6? Running Jamie's kernel that it shipped with.
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Does it work without being in the dock or do you have the radio set to iPod?
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Working with Jellybam & Flapppjaxx 3.0.9 kernel.
Thanks.
I am pretty sure it would work without the dock. Its been correctly routing my audio even while playing and undocking. It routes my calls and notifications smoothly too. Haven't tried headphones yet.
As far as my car goes I run an aux in through my factory head unit. That aux runs to the back of the OEM car dock from Samsung.
First time i ran the app, for some reason I had to manually toggle through some of the media routing settings, manually selecting a few options then select back on "let app decide". After that the app seemed to understand my phones audio routing. The only happened two out of the five times I installed and uninstalled. I was clearing app data and cache and rebooting between each uninstall/ reinstall...
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I have found what is a deal breaker for me when SoundAbout is installed and my note is in my OEM Navigation dock.
The Mic is disabled, at least as far as Google Search is concerned. Uninstalling SoundAbout & rebooting returned the mic.
pTeronaut said:
I have found what is a deal breaker for me when SoundAbout is installed and my note is in my OEM Navigation dock.
The Mic is disabled, at least as far as Google Search is concerned. Uninstalling SoundAbout & rebooting returned the mic.
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Did you uncheck the "Wired headset microphone" detection button? Only reason I say that is b/c mine was working fine on my road trip back from TX Friday...
I did, but I was on the road at the time, I will give it another go tomorrow.
Just took another trip with a freshly re-installed SoundAbout running on the ROM that must not be named and FJ's 3.0.11 kernel, and Wired Headset Microphone Detection disabled.
Still no joy, sound plays through the audio out of the dock, but Google Now won't hear me.
I cannot say whether the mic will work as a phone, as my Note is primarily a pocketable computer with a phone on the side.
EDIT: Will be driving past Norman in Sept on my road trip from Indiana to Fort Worth.
2nd EDIT: I'm a cheapskate, so will be spending an extra 5 minutes driving 6 miles less to avoid tolls, by driving through Arkansas instead of Oklahoma.
Downloaded. Works like a champ on the OEM Samsung Dock.
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Will be testing this fix on N7000 later today.
Hope it works. :fingers-crossed:
Doesn't work
I've got a Galaxy Note running CM10.1.2 and SoundAbout doesn't fix the audio. If I set media to Wired Headphone, it works perfectly but if I choose Dock or Let app decide audio comes through the phone speaker when it's docked.
Any suggestions>
Unlucky
I'm using samsung galaxy s3 gt-i9300 variant, flashed costum rom pa_i9300-3.65-20130707. Audio was not routing to the dock model EDD-D200BE. I tried dock sound redirector but it's not supported. Soundabout saying redirected to dock but is not routing on the dock. And when I am making a calls, it's muted. I am happy with the rom but it's frustrating because a have a plan on purchasing multimedia dock also. Somebody out there??? Please.. Thnx in advance.
worked well with my galaxy note 2
malfuncion said:
You can skip to the TLDR section if you dont want background and "my story".
BACKGROUND INFO:
As many of you faithful note users know, as of right now there is a HUGE bug with CM, the OEM cardock and the Galaxy Note (and iirc the S2/S3 as well). The USB audio redirection just flat out doesnt work with CM. Yes, I do know that the headphone jack works. However, in my case that simply doesnt work for a couple reasons: 1) The factory dock 3.5mm audio plug is a 90 degree angle plug head. When plugging in the back it makes the appearance smooth, however this angle causes a problem with the headphone jack placement. If you reroute this plug to your headphone hole it will bind on the actual OEM dock. If you have a dock, you know what I am talking about. You end up with shotty sound quality, possibly mono output, and its just overall sketchy. Not to mention a PITA to do in the dark. 2) My dock is routed all through my dash so for me to get enough slack, I have to basically rip my dash apart. With me taking a 300 mile road trip this week, wanting to use CM10.1 was pretty much out of the question as this issue is pretty much a deal breaker....or WAS!
My Story:
I personally drive an Infinity G35, 2006 model. This car is equipped with "hands free Bluetooth" but not the streaming radio Bluetooth. Basically it's a glorified ear bud that redirects calls only, through my speakers in my car over BT. I thought to myself, "hey lets find an app that would trick my car in to thinking Media output is a phone call". So I searched, and found a few apps that did this. Overall impressions were pretty much sketchy in functionality on the first few I tried. Also, the sound quality at best is comparable to a tin can speaker as alot of these types of apps do MONO redirected output only. After trying a few apps I said eff it and was about to give up. I decided to give it one more market search and give one more of these "Bluetooth apps" a shot. By chance, I found one called SoundAbout. That is the link to the free version on the market. I noticed it had a bluetooth out feature and purchased the paid version to check it out. After jacking with the settings I eventually got frustrated again with the bluetooth out and was close to saying eff it again. Before quitting I realized that from "stock" settings of the app, it would decide on how to redirect the audio all by itself. I said, "ahh why not?" and gave the default config settings a spin. I loaded pandora, slapped the phone in the dock, not really expecting anything "new" or any changes but OMFG IT WORKED! I thought to myself, "Are my ears deceiving me? Do I hear HIGH quality audio through my speakers using my car dock and CM10.1!?" Yes, yes I did.
TLDR:
1) Download this app: SoundAbout
2) Launch app, take default settings to "let app decide" how to route audio for media.
3) Launch Pandora/PlayMusic/Apollo/wtfever poison you got to listen to musics.
4) Profit and possibly dance a jig in your car while sporting CM10.1 and the OEM dock
5) This is optional of course, but I thought it was much necessary as this a life saver for me: Donate to the author of the app- buy his "full version" here, it's a $2.99 well spent(or was for me).
Now the next question is how in the hell do we get this guy in touch with a CM dev to see what the hell he did to FIX THIS ISSUE!!!!???? If he can do it with an app, there has to be a way to natively do it as well, right? But again, this is why I'm downloading the app and not making one/doing commits to CM myself.
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I just want to thank you a million times for this post, I purchased the app you recommended and it worked well with my galaxy note 2 with original Samsung dock and smart dock, now all sounds come out of the dock and the phone is not silence when docked, thanks again for adding such a great fix to cyanogenmod. I want to add that I am on cyanogenmod 10.2 nightly running android 4.3 the uodate of 20 sep 2013.
malfuncion said:
You can skip to the TLDR section if you dont want background and "my story".
BACKGROUND INFO:
As many of you faithful note users know, as of right now there is a HUGE bug with CM, the OEM cardock and the Galaxy Note (and iirc the S2/S3 as well). The USB audio redirection just flat out doesnt work with CM. Yes, I do know that the headphone jack works. However, in my case that simply doesnt work for a couple reasons: 1) The factory dock 3.5mm audio plug is a 90 degree angle plug head. When plugging in the back it makes the appearance smooth, however this angle causes a problem with the headphone jack placement. If you reroute this plug to your headphone hole it will bind on the actual OEM dock. If you have a dock, you know what I am talking about. You end up with shotty sound quality, possibly mono output, and its just overall sketchy. Not to mention a PITA to do in the dark. 2) My dock is routed all through my dash so for me to get enough slack, I have to basically rip my dash apart. With me taking a 300 mile road trip this week, wanting to use CM10.1 was pretty much out of the question as this issue is pretty much a deal breaker....or WAS!
My Story:
I personally drive an Infinity G35, 2006 model. This car is equipped with "hands free Bluetooth" but not the streaming radio Bluetooth. Basically it's a glorified ear bud that redirects calls only, through my speakers in my car over BT. I thought to myself, "hey lets find an app that would trick my car in to thinking Media output is a phone call". So I searched, and found a few apps that did this. Overall impressions were pretty much sketchy in functionality on the first few I tried. Also, the sound quality at best is comparable to a tin can speaker as alot of these types of apps do MONO redirected output only. After trying a few apps I said eff it and was about to give up. I decided to give it one more market search and give one more of these "Bluetooth apps" a shot. By chance, I found one called SoundAbout. That is the link to the free version on the market. I noticed it had a bluetooth out feature and purchased the paid version to check it out. After jacking with the settings I eventually got frustrated again with the bluetooth out and was close to saying eff it again. Before quitting I realized that from "stock" settings of the app, it would decide on how to redirect the audio all by itself. I said, "ahh why not?" and gave the default config settings a spin. I loaded pandora, slapped the phone in the dock, not really expecting anything "new" or any changes but OMFG IT WORKED! I thought to myself, "Are my ears deceiving me? Do I hear HIGH quality audio through my speakers using my car dock and CM10.1!?" Yes, yes I did.
TLDR:
1) Download this app: SoundAbout
2) Launch app, take default settings to "let app decide" how to route audio for media.
3) Launch Pandora/PlayMusic/Apollo/wtfever poison you got to listen to musics.
4) Profit and possibly dance a jig in your car while sporting CM10.1 and the OEM dock
5) This is optional of course, but I thought it was much necessary as this a life saver for me: Donate to the author of the app- buy his "full version" here, it's a $2.99 well spent(or was for me).
Now the next question is how in the hell do we get this guy in touch with a CM dev to see what the hell he did to FIX THIS ISSUE!!!!???? If he can do it with an app, there has to be a way to natively do it as well, right? But again, this is why I'm downloading the app and not making one/doing commits to CM myself.
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Is this resolved in CM now? I can't remember if anyone contacted me after this post back in Feb.
-D. Woods
dmwoods said:
Is this resolved in CM now? I can't remember if anyone contacted me after this post back in Feb.
-D. Woods
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No. I wish.
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Im a bit lost as to what my best option is for a in car solution.
Im getting a car with a native double din slot. Which has started this all off for me again. As id quite like to have a double din that can work with my phone or something.
Ive got a Note 3. A Pioneer 80PRS, which sounds great, 3 pre outs, which i use all of. Its more of a sound quality unit, i generally listen to music on hard drive, or via my phone, which is usually podcasts, radio apps, soundcloud, mixcloud etc.
First thoughts were (ruled it out last time) something like AppRadio, but seems still very limited interfacing. ARLiberator seems to help, but has Knox issues? And then still leaves me weighing up sound quality, unless ARLiberator works on newer AVH-X8500BT or something with 3 pre outs.
Second thoughts, were a tablet in car. Which i know very little about. Seems you can either buy all the stuff to make that the actual headunit, like signal to amps etc.
Or have headunit behind, connected by bluetooth i assume? Which runs rest of system as usual ?
Is there anyway to have a tablet basically mirror my phone, just be a second screen if you like. Rather than having 2 devices, with obviously the ohone having everything i want to use on it, and worrying about trying to get it onto the tablet.
Whats my best option, to get maximum sound quality, using 3 rcas, 2 amps. Or should i stop worrying about that, and drop down to 2 rcas ? Seeing as bluetooth is lowering my quality. No idea how much vs 2 or 3 pre outs.
To also have maximum intergration and functionality.
Thanks