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Hey guys and girls,
I'm coming back to the smartphone world - had a Droid and an EVO. Loved them both. I see that the Photon's bootloader is unlocked - but it drops 4G access, etc.
is this ever going to change? with the release of the source is development for the phone going to pick up?
I cannot wait any longer to get a phone. At this point my choices are EVO 3D or a Photon, (and maybe returning either for a SGS2 once it releases and I see how it fares)
If you were in my shoes, had to get a phone tomorrow - would you get the Photon or the EVO 3D?
mtvruinedyou said:
Hey guys and girls,
I'm coming back to the smartphone world - had a Droid and an EVO. Loved them both. I see that the Photon's bootloader is unlocked - but it drops 4G access, etc.
is this ever going to change? with the release of the source is development for the phone going to pick up?
I cannot wait any longer to get a phone. At this point my choices are EVO 3D or a Photon, (and maybe returning either for a SGS2 once it releases and I see how it fares)
If you were in my shoes, had to get a phone tomorrow - would you get the Photon or the EVO 3D?
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Photon hands down. Out of the box quality is superb. The 3 d is a gimmick phone.
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What he ^ said. I've had both and the photon is better.
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I'm not worried about the 3D - I'm worried about the future of the device. It seems the dev community for the EVO 3D is much larger at this point and I'm worried that development for the Photon won't get as far because of the issues with 4G being dumped, etc.
I've owned motorola and htc devices before, like i said, and I liked both - I just want to make sure that I can customize it through ROMs and still have full functionality.
Is the Tegra 2 better than the SnapdragonX2?
Nokia 1100 ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Dude...the MoPho isn't even 2 months old...give it time at least....code released today...all thats left is the bootloader....patience is key here....
Coming from the Evo, I'm impressed
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The kernel source was released today, so the 4G unlocked issue should be corrected soon.
How do the screens compare, in your opinion? Is the PenTile display as bad as some of the reviews state?
mtvruinedyou said:
How do the screens compare, in your opinion? Is the PenTile display as bad as some of the reviews state?
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In my opinion, those reviews come from EVO 3D and wannabe GS2 owners. Haters are gunna hate.
As an analogy, I believe that part of the issue is that standard def signals are being put into an HD screen. You know, a standard TV actually looks better than an HD TV with a standard signal because the HD TV shows the flaws. Just my2cents.
Not to mention the inability of Samsung to stay on top of development for their products...terrible in my opinion...
I'm sticking with my MoPho!
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defiantly Photon, Evo 3D has horrible service, and the Photon just runs smoother in my opinion
For what its worth I traded my Evo3D for the MoPho, mainly because of battery life. I've been thrilled with it. MoPho vs SG2... well, thats a different issue.
I think my main complaint with the MoPho is that the USB and HDMI ports cannot be used when using the kickstand. I know why they did it, to sell more docks, but its annoying as hell and makes the stand damn near useless IMO. Got rid of Blur almost immediately with launcherpro so no problems there. The thing has already been rooted, easily, and the kernal release its a matter of weeks before ROMs start to land..
For sure go with MoPho over the evo3D. People who say that the 3D's battery life "isn't that bad" are lying to your face.
CarbolDroid said:
For what its worth I traded my Evo3D for the MoPho, mainly because of battery life. I've been thrilled with it. MoPho vs SG2... well, thats a different issue.
I think my main complaint with the MoPho is that the USB and HDMI ports cannot be used when using the kickstand. I know why they did it, to sell more docks, but its annoying as hell and makes the stand damn near useless IMO. Got rid of Blur almost immediately with launcherpro so no problems there. The thing has already been rooted, easily, and the kernal release its a matter of weeks before ROMs start to land..
For sure go with MoPho over the evo3D. People who say that the 3D's battery life "isn't that bad" are lying to your face.
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You can use both the ports and the kicksand at the same time.. Try it.. Works well..
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Photon 4G HANDS DOWN!
First off, let me preface this by stating I am a die-hard EVO 4G backer! That phone has been the best phone (so far) I have ever owned! Hands down! Now, I am a business owner and require a sturdy, reliable, functional phone to conduct my daily business.
I have owned a Samsung Nexus S, Photon 4G, and an EVO 3D. They all have their issues. But in terms of signal strength, call quality, loudness, speed, battery life, and overall functionality, FOR ME... hands down...the Photon 4G performed the best.
The EVO 3D is fast and pretty but for what I need it to do, it sucks! I have had random reboots, weak signal strength, call drops, the speaker quality sounds like crap compared to the photon, BATTERY LIFE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!, and to top it off, I use square to collect payments from clients and when I connect it, the 3D thinks it is headphones and starts to play my music player! Let's just say some clients aren't really big Tupac fans as I am! Then when i am finished with the transactions and unplug the square device, I can ONLY talk to people using the speaker phone UNTIL I reboot the phone.
I love HTC from a development standpoint, but rooting and dealing with the 3D doesn't take on the same amount of ease as the OG 4G did. I love trying out different ROMs but from a business standpoint, I need functionality and dependability. I know some of you may say 'maybe you just had a lemon'. Let's just say that after the third 3D from different lots, I would say 'nyet'!
The Photon is not without its issues but for my requirements, Motorola Photon is my choice. Launcher pro took care of the motoblur issue. I will say this...the moment there is a AOSP ROM out for the photon, I will be getting it!
I loved the Samsung Nexus S for its smoothness. Didn't have major issues although the signal strength was a little weak and the loudness (ear piece, ringers, and speaker) sucked. Looking forward the the Epic 4G touch (SGS2)!
Regards,
Robert
mtvruinedyou said:
Hey guys and girls,
I'm coming back to the smartphone world - had a Droid and an EVO. Loved them both. I see that the Photon's bootloader is unlocked - but it drops 4G access, etc.
is this ever going to change? with the release of the source is development for the phone going to pick up?
I cannot wait any longer to get a phone. At this point my choices are EVO 3D or a Photon, (and maybe returning either for a SGS2 once it releases and I see how it fares)
If you were in my shoes, had to get a phone tomorrow - would you get the Photon or the EVO 3D?
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This is the Photon forums so yea.....get a Photon.
As for the 4g, source code has only been out for a day. It is being worked on and for sure will soon have custom kernels and unlocked bootloader w/everything working. Peeps just need to have a little patience. This phone got root almost right out of the gate not to mention we already have custom recovery. From my perspective, developement of the Photon is moving ahead rapidly. Phone has only been out for little over a month.
ORam78 said:
Not to mention the inability of Samsung to stay on top of development for their products...terrible in my opinion...
I'm sticking with my MoPho!
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Amen to that statement.
Yeah, they do have a beautiful screen but considering the number of times that Samsung's dropped the ball in supporting their products after its released with timely fixes and maintenance releases, endless delays for upgrading to the latest Android platform, not to mention being notorious for having a lousy GPS function, I'm a bit surprised that anyone is considering one of their phones as a viable option.
As G W Bush would say, "There's an old saying in Tennessee that we also have in Texas. Fool me once, shame on you.... Fool me, can't get fooled again."
No thanks Samsung. Your beautiful screens are great on televisions. But I don't care to have one on my phone if you can't support them after making them.
CarbolDroid said:
I think my main complaint with the MoPho is that the USB and HDMI ports cannot be used when using the kickstand.
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Turn the phone over. The kickstand supports the phone in either orientation.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm so underwhelmed by the communit(ies) for the MoPho. Coming from a Pre, I'm used to a passionate and active community of near-fanatical phanboys waxing poetic on the delights/disasters of their phone. But there's so little excitement/action/enthusiasm around the MoPho. I'm really surprised. Personally, I'm happier with this phone than any other tech gadget I've used. Period. The signals are great - Phone, Wifi, GPS. The battery life is by far the best I've seen on a smartphone, there's no lag, the screen is easily seen in sunlight, the speaker is loud. Without root and just adding some widgets and a new launcher, this thing kicks A$$!
So why is it so dead in MoPholand? Where's the developer action? Am I the only one who loves this phone?
Maybe it's just the nature of the fragmented Android universe?
Or are people just ho-hum about the MoPho?
Or is everyone so happy that they're not spending time on forums b1tching about it?
C'mon mophos! Represent!
I don't frequent this board as much as some others as the Photon works so well with just the stock software and the few modifications posted in the DEV section. I am tired of trolling people that are talking about the SGS2 and I've got my theme how I like it (save for a few xml edits that I am too lazy to try and figure out).
There are two things that I would LIKE but I know will be harder for ME to figure out then its worth. Reboot options (have to edit android policy jar) and power control widgets in the pulldown bar (inb4 widget locker)
I totally see what you mean. However, I do remember when I first got my EVO it was a good 3-4 months before any activity started to pick up.
Honestly, I could care less. With my EVO I was looking forward to developments simply because ..... well there were many flaws with that phone.
The photon stock is sufficiently acceptable for me. Great battery, great speed, i really dont care about roms/kernels etc... All i care about is launchers, widgets and aps thats more than enough for me to customize
And with Android 4.0 coming out, anything I do to it now wont matter because I'll be one of the many curious people to upgrade
I say give it a couple of months at least until after the 4.0 comes out.
Two things I'm looking forward to: Android 4.0 and Nexus Prime.
gomopho said:
Or is everyone so happy that they're not spending time on forums b1tching about it?
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This ^
Also, getting an unlocked boatloader with 4G (without having to jump through hoopes to make work) and other custom recoveries might help as well. It will happen...just very early for this device yet. In my opinion is moving along very nicely.
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I don't frequent this board as much as some others as the Photon works so well with just the stock software and the few modifications posted in the DEV section. I am tired of trolling people that are talking about the SGS2 and I've got my theme how I like it (save for a few xml edits that I am too lazy to try and figure out).
There are two things that I would LIKE but I know will be harder for ME to figure out then its worth. Reboot options (have to edit android policy jar) and power control widgets in the pulldown bar (inb4 widget locker)
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+1
The Photon is such a kick ass phone all I really needed was root. Now if someone makes a cool and stable (or more stable) as the stock rom, that has a cool theme or offers me some neat functions I will flash it. Other then that WTF else do I need. If you are not happy with the phone or development then GTFO! Don't waste your time or ours *****ing.
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Good to know things are likely to pick up over time. I'm glad to see everyone else generally very happy with the phone. There are some tweaks to do - but that's true of every phone. The MoPho has its issues down to things I'd call minor annoyances. It's got all the major issues covered. And they are totally on top of it with the updates. I think we will start getting big bonuses from the Googlerola combination.
I'll keep talking the phone up to everyone on my own.
This phone is so fantastic that I only need root. If some cool rims are developed with working 4g I will surely go that route, but for now I am fine with the way it is.
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Things are still in the baby stages here and with the coming of the new Sammy phone I am sure a lot of people are undecided what they want to do. Once the line is drawn in the sand and folks make their decision on if they are staying with the mopho or going to Sammy things will pickup.
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Bigjim1488 said:
Things are still in the baby stages here and with the coming of the new Sammy phone I am sure a lot of people are undecided what they want to do. Once the line is drawn in the sand and folks make their decision on if they are staying with the mopho or going to Sammy things will pickup.
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Yea, I agree. Fact is that the SGSII Epic Touch 4G is a killer phone and once released, this place will be almost a ghost town.
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I disagree. This phone is very well done stock. But in comparison it has its weakness to other phones and when the sammy comes out more of those will be pointed out. But so will some of the places it shines. Give it time and the dust will settle. As of now there is no clear winner, but going either route you cant lose IMHO.
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I would have to agree with everyone as well, has the pho even been out for a month yet?
I am very excited about the prospect of the unlocked bootloader w/4g as that is the only thing stopping me from going buck-nutty on this thing with new Roms. Motos have been hacked for so long im sure its only a matter of time before the flow of devs come back once the SGS2 hype dies down.
as for now all I need is root, since 4g is way too much fun to not have at the moment.
jamesdwalters said:
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The Photon is such a kick ass phone all I really needed was root. Now if someone makes a cool and stable (or more stable) as the stock rom, that has a cool theme or offers me some neat functions I will flash it. Other then that WTF else do I need. If you are not happy with the phone or development then GTFO! Don't waste your time or ours *****ing.
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Exactly. I LOVE this phone Out OF The Box. Great/Amazing Battery Life. Stock ROM is fine with me. I finally feel I have NO need to put on another ROM. With Google Buying Moto Mobility, sky's the limit for our Super Phone. I can see it in Broad Daylight. I have the Sprint Hotspot on it (for Xoom, HP Touchpad, 3DS and Netflix) it works just Great with only 3G, 4G is Lighting Fast.
I am a happy customer. My wife liked it so much she gave our daughter her EVO Shift 4G and I got her a Photon. Everyone is Circle Jerking with the SGS2. Let them have it. When Sammy does not deliver (like usual) and we have Ice Cream before everyone else, they will be jealous of us and not the other way around. This is the BEST phone I have EVER had. I'm Rooted for My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup and that's it.
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Exactly. I LOVE this phone Out OF The Box. Great/Amazing Battery Life. Stock ROM is fine with me. I finally feel I have NO need to put on another ROM. With Google Buying Moto Mobility, sky's the limit for our Super Phone. I can see it in Broad Daylight. I have the Sprint Hotspot on it (for Xoom, HP Touchpad, 3DS and Netflix) it works just Great with only 3G, 4G is Lighting Fast.
I am a happy customer. My wife liked it so much she gave our daughter her EVO Shift 4G and I got her a Photon. Everyone is Circle Jerking with the SGS2. Let them have it. When Sammy does not deliver (like usual) and we have Ice Cream before everyone else, they will be jealous of us and not the other way around. This is the BEST phone I have EVER had. I'm Rooted for My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup and that's it.
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Honestly I couldn't care less what phone someone else has or what they think of mine. If everyone else in the whole world dropped the photon for the SGS2 that is fine with me. I will still love my Photon. If I wanted to have the same phone as everyone else I would have an Icrap phone.
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I love this MoPho! It's working its way to becoming the best phone I've ever had.
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This is the first android phone i didnt have to root to be happy with lol (out if abt 15 difficult devices). Im rooted now but stock rooted just for cache cleaner and titanium backup. Its definitely the best android device ive owned...
The only thing I dislike about the Photon which is really minor anyway is the pentile screen. The gloss effect is annoying.
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The only thing I dislike about the Photon which is really minor anyway is the pentile screen. The gloss effect is annoying.
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Peeps keep talking about the problem with the pentile screen, I've never seen it. Do I just have bad eyesight? Everything looks sharp and clear to me.
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Peeps keep talking about the problem with the pentile screen, I've never seen it. Do I just have bad eyesight? Everything looks sharp and clear to me.
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You have to really pay attention to see it
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The display is very sharp but the Pentile effect is very obvious. It's like a dithering effect. Everything has this grainy effect to it. Charge your battery full and look at the battery meter. If you don't see a large green icon full of tiny black specks, you are in denial. You don't see a solid green icon, it's got that dithering effect. And so does everything else on the screen, but the screen is still sharp and vibrant.
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The display is very sharp but the Pentile effect is very obvious. It's like a dithering effect. Everything has this grainy effect to it. Charge your battery full and look at the battery meter. If you don't see a large green icon full of tiny black specks, you are in denial. You don't see a solid green icon, it's got that dithering effect. And so does everything else on the screen, but the screen is still sharp and vibrant.
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Your high, and no I am not in denial. Blind? maybe but it looks about as good as any other screen I have seen and better by far then some I have had.
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So I just joined the Photon crowd coming from the EVO 4G(it finally died and a friend let me have this one, as he had switched to the iPhone) and I noticed no one has tried porting a Sense rom to this device. I'm enjoying CM7 right now but really miss the flair of Sense. I know it's purely an aesthetic thing but I've always liked it, growing very fond of it from using my old EVO over the last two years. I did some Google searching about it but couldn't really find anything to help me. I'd like to see if anyone here knows what's required to port Sense to the Photon, and if it's possible, a good base to start with. Any help or sharing of knowledge is kindly appreciated.
~Siv
most users of the photon are much more technical then the evo users when you look at percentages. majority of the development have been on unlocking the power of this phone compared to decorating it. the photon has alot of hardware packed inside and they have been working to release the goodies and push it to the max.
Sense UI... someone may pick it up, but since the photon hit the market its been all about performance. I for one am a streamline guy. on my evo, all i ever ran was cm7. if you are looking for flair right now, id suggest using a fancy launcher like 3d shells products.
lroy said:
most users of the photon are much more technical then the evo users when you look at percentages. majority of the development have been on unlocking the power of this phone compared to decorating it. the photon has alot of hardware packed inside and they have been working to release the goodies and push it to the max.
Sense UI... someone may pick it up, but since the photon hit the market its been all about performance. I for one am a streamline guy. on my evo, all i ever ran was cm7. if you are looking for flair right now, id suggest using a fancy launcher like 3d shells products.
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You're definitely right about that. This thing is a beast. I have no qualms whatsoever about the work the devs have been pushing here. It's very impressive. I was just curious if it could be done. I'm loving the fact that CM9 is here and it runs awesome with a few hiccups here and there. Anyway, thanks for responding. I'm sure one day it'll happen.
What part of Sense do you want? There are a bunch of widgets which replicate the clock. None that replicate the flip animation just so, though. Either they won't animate or they animate poorly. Somebody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But Beautiful Widgets has probably the most complete Sense clock/weather thing, although the weather won't briefly take over the whole screen when you unlock like it does in Sense 3.0.
For the lock screen you can do WidgetLocker with the Sense 3 with the ring or the old Sense with the bar that slides down.
fancy widgets is a good sense clock replacement
And Android Pro Widgets are decent replacements for the calendar, friendstream, contacts widgets (the free ones don't look great, but the paid version lets you use launcher pro themes)
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I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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where did you hear that the LTE won't get jelly bean?
semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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Google made it mandatory for OEMs to support their product for 18 months...the EVO, without a doubt in my mind, will recieve the jellybean update...disable gmail app under apps>all> click gmail and top right button disables it. Or don't sync your google account?
Battery pull is as easy as holding your power button for 10 seconds until it reboots..you're chilling
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I didn't eveN think that ios had a real UI..if you wanna look like ios remove all widgets and just put a bunch of apps on your home screens..the battery thing you will get over..Trust me..and I don't know where u saw we won't get jellybean. I think that's hogwash
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I didn't eveN think that ios had a real UI..if you wanna look like ios remove all widgets and just put a bunch of apps on your home screens..the battery thing you will get over..Trust me..and I don't know where u saw we won't get jellybean. I think that's hogwash
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Yeah the JB thing got me there for a second. Even if HTC decided not to release JB, someone, will release a build for it.
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JB isn't a huge leap like gingerbread to ICS was, even if that were true (which I doubt) that shouldn't deter you from getting this phone.
You prefer the iPhone UI? All you do is scroll through pages of apps. We call that the app drawer. Haha, everything else may be new to you, so I'm guessing you may not be taking advantage of the FAR more interesting UI of Android 4.0. Learn more, and you'll love it.
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semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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Indeed the camera and camcorder are spiffy ^^
It will get jelly bean.
Honestly, if you like the iphone gui you can probably just install another launcher or rom like MIUI once/if it gets stable.
The battery pull thing isn't that bad, and if you need to replace the battery with a new one, it is possible but it's a really involved process.
Here's where I can't really comfort you. You will most likely have to root this phone in order to stay happy with it. I thought I didn't need to because the speed and everything was so amazing and overwhelming at first, but I did. I'm not sure how much the OTA helped, but for now I believe you will be forced to root in order to compensate for the devices flaws(Wifi/3g stability & multitasking mainly). Rooting can help alleviate some of this pain and make it a strong daily driver though.
Once you root, you won't notice a large performance boost, mainly because on today's phones and our phone specifically it's powerful enough to handle most tasks already. Battery life won't change much either(I get a fairly solid day easily). Although you'll get a lot more stability out of your phone strangely.
PsiPhiDan said:
You prefer the iPhone UI? All you do is scroll through pages of apps. We call that the app drawer. Haha, everything else may be new to you, so I'm guessing you may not be taking advantage of the FAR more interesting UI of Android 4.0. Learn more, and you'll love it.
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I keep trying to tell my gf who has an iPhone 4s the same thing! They are boring as hell...not to mention very outdated... People spend money to upgrade from 4 to 4s for siri and NEVER USE IT...WTF??!! A waste of $200+
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Yea ios to me is a joke..sure the apps are nice and it is super smooth but there is nothing else to it...I get bored with ios within minutes..if.I get tired of my phone I can do a complete overhaul and completely change the look of the UI..if all android had to do is scroll through apps on sure it would be just as responsive..although its getting pretty damn close
lol no official JB on the HTC EVO 4G LTE?? What kind of BS is that? whoever told you that is full of ish.
Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
We're an Apple family (iPhones, iPods, MBPro, Mac Mini) and I'm the only Android user. What I mean by GUI is Apple's approach to simplicity and user fluidity. Those are all things that I liked when I used MIUI on my first EVO. It's not that I like the screens of cloned icons--yeah, that's boring. I just like how smooth everything works on iPhones and iPods--you can't deny it, it's buttery smooth! When designing user interfaces, it's often the little things that matter and Apple really seems to pay attention to that. I don't see the point of widgets, I get what they are but I don't find them useful enough to keep, like MIUI. The PANDORA widget works sometimes and I have to go into the app to remind it to play! LOL.
I'm not bashing Anrdroid or the EVO--I bought another one that I'd really like to keep. But I also appreciate what other manufacturers do. The EVO 4G LTE has fluidity in some ways especially when using Chrome--wow!
I Googled "EVO 4G LTE jelly bean" and found a bunch of posts at other android websites where some users expressed the EVO LTE might now get JB, too many to post.
Ok, thanks all for your replies--and yeah, I'll probably be rooting this phone if I keep it (probably will) just like all the other Androids I've rooted.
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Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
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I'm surprised you weren't, actually. iOS is like the worst curse word around here.
Not sure how you can compare android to ios... I'd rather have my og evo than iPhone5... facepalm... evo lte will see jellybean soon, og evo will see jb...
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Best phone
This phone kicks ass I left sgs2 and def not be looking for back I'm team evo 4g now
Amen to all that especially the ending haha
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I have both now; evo lte and sIII. My impressions so far is that the build quality is vastly superior on the HTC. I also prefer the HTC screen, for its natural look and cleaner whites. The Samsung is much more responsive and virtually lag free. Either one is great.
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Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
We're an Apple family (iPhones, iPods, MBPro, Mac Mini) and I'm the only Android user. What I mean by GUI is Apple's approach to simplicity and user fluidity. Those are all things that I liked when I used MIUI on my first EVO. It's not that I like the screens of cloned icons--yeah, that's boring. I just like how smooth everything works on iPhones and iPods--you can't deny it, it's buttery smooth! When designing user interfaces, it's often the little things that matter and Apple really seems to pay attention to that. I don't see the point of widgets, I get what they are but I don't find them useful enough to keep, like MIUI. The PANDORA widget works sometimes and I have to go into the app to remind it to play! LOL.
I'm not bashing Anrdroid or the EVO--I bought another one that I'd really like to keep. But I also appreciate what other manufacturers do. The EVO 4G LTE has fluidity in some ways especially when using Chrome--wow!
I Googled "EVO 4G LTE jelly bean" and found a bunch of posts at other android websites where some users expressed the EVO LTE might now get JB, too many to post.
Ok, thanks all for your replies--and yeah, I'll probably be rooting this phone if I keep it (probably will) just like all the other Androids I've rooted.
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please link some of these. otherwise its nothing but hogwash. you actually think a FLAGSHIP PHONE thats less than 2 months old wont get JB? Thats just crazy talk.
i googled " evo 4g lte jelly bean" and im 4 pages in. nothing about the phone NOT getting JB. You may be misreading or misunderstanding that people are saying they dont think the phone will get it ''this year'' or the phone wont get it until ''spring of next year'' But nowhere have I see it say ''no jellybean for the htc evo 4g lte'' so i do beg of you to post some links.
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please link some of these. otherwise its nothing but hogwash. you actually think a FLAGSHIP PHONE thats less than 2 months old wont get JB? Thats just crazy talk.
i googled " evo 4g lte jelly bean" and im 4 pages in. nothing about the phone NOT getting JB. You may be misreading or misunderstanding that people are saying they dont think the phone will get it ''this year'' or the phone wont get it until ''spring of next year'' But nowhere have I see it say ''no jellybean for the htc evo 4g lte'' so i do beg of you to post some links.
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I agree that it's crazy talk, but that's why I asked. I trust the opinions of the XDA community as its never let me down in the two years that I've been lurking and posting. I tried to find the one article that I read it on and now I can't find it. But that's ok... I believe the user may have been ranting about HTC+Sprint lagging on OTAs. Regardless, that's why I asked XDA.
LOL, it's looking less likely that I'm returning this device.
I've been doing a lot of research on both devices over the past few days since I'm out of work and have nothing better to do than apply for jobs and figure out which phone I'm going to get when it comes out. Super lame but there isn't much else to do when your back is shot to hell.
Anyway... It looks to me as if the GS4's mission is to drag other customers to Samsung. For example: steal HTC lovers and convince them to make the switch over to Samsung. I see this because GS4 is pushing FEATURES and things that, for example, the HTC One does not have. But that doesn't make the GS4 'better' than the HTC One. At least... not to me.
The HUGE difference is that the HTC One does NOT have the MicroSD card slot. I don't agree with that but yet it might be a good idea to finally move to cloud storage and get used to it? Either way, I came to the realization that the non-existent MicroSD card slot should not be a deal-breaker of any kind. Especially since you can grab a 32gb MSD for only $20 if you look in the right direction. So, if you think about it, there IS plenty of storage but it won't all be physically present. Kind of cool if you think about it.
Another HUGE difference is that the HTC One will not have an option for battery replacement, extended batteries, or anything alike. I believe that was to boost sales towards accessories and have everyone else (carriers and company's) jump on the same bandwagon. That's because there are now battery packs you can buy to carry around and charge your phone if you really need to. I think that's pretty awesome but I like the idea of carrying an actual backup battery with me instead of charging on the run.
BUT! That sexy casing sure as hell makes up for both of those "HUGE" or "don't really care" differences.
As for screen differences... who can tell which is better on such a small screen? Sure, if you know it just happens to have better specs than you can call it "better" or even "the best" but if the human eye can't even detect the difference than it really doesn't matter.
BUT! You better believe your eyes when you see the battery consumption suddenly plummet.
So why desire those better screen specs, that you won't even notice, and get less battery life? My guess is that you wouldn't...
So why desire all of those features that you will use, much like the rare 3D on few phones, but probably for about a month until you realize they are just a waste of space and a marketing scheme? My guess is that you wouldn't...
So why switch over to the Galaxy S4 of which you will be happy with for a while before you realize your regret on not purchasing the HTC One which is also released earlier so you could've been satisfied even earlier and not made ANY mistakes? My guess is that you wouldn't...
I've come to the conclusion that the S4 vs. One is all about personal preference and the battle becomes a draw. Specs are pretty much the same depending on where you live, what carrier you have, and your own personal wish-list. Samsung did one hell of a job marketing a phone that hasn't had an official release date yet though! It had me wondering which phone I really want. The octacore sounds great but think about how new that technology is, how it make work, if it really is worth it, and that it is just a new idea to processing in *hopes* that it'll provide a little bit more power and better memory management.
I could go on and on about all of the differences, marketing schemes, etc... But I want to see what everyone else is saying (typing) since I don't have THAT MUCH time to spend reading every little detail on the two phones.
What do you guys/gals think?
Which phone do you plan on purchasing if at all?
And why?
I'm aiming towards the HTC One.
Could've sworn I put this in the question section... Can someone move this please? Thanks.
I never needed to replace my battery on the Evo 3D, and I'm still using the same 16 GB card that I had in it. I doubt I'd miss either omission.
Neither, Nexus 5
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Neither, Nexus 5
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Which, unfortunately and historically, will be completely obsolete just a month or two after it comes.
http://anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review
The most comprehensive review/analysis of the HTC One to date. If you want to know EVERYTHING about the One just have a read. Highest award ever given to a smartphone by them. That pretty much certifies it as LEGIT.
I say wait... None of the next gen are really pummeling the current gen flagships.
If I had to choose this year, the SGS 4 under contract or the Dev edition HTC One, off contract.
The one. Sense 5 is great and I'm really liking the dual speakers. I love Samsung Tvs but nor their phones. I could care less about a removable battery or the microsd card slot.
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The one. Sense 5 is great and I'm really liking the dual speakers. I love Samsung Tvs but nor their phones. I could care less about a removable battery or the microsd card slot.
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Same here, having stuck with HTC since the Hero, I'm really leaning towards the One.
I'm still undecided. I really hate AMOLED screens.. They have some sort of tint compared to LCD. And i hate that Samsung phones feel cheap and light.
The build of the HTC One is awesome but I alway have cases on my phone. I'm super clumsy.. I drop my phone about twice a week... No joke. I've never had to get a new battery for an HTC phone. SD card slot shouldn't be a problem if I can get 32gb. I've never taken out the memory card out my EVOLTE.
As far as HTC.. I feel they are more of a hassle to root than Samsung. So that is making me want to switch to Samsung. But then again, I've used Sense for 5yrs now and like it.. It's gonna suck to switch.
The things that are most important to me are battery life, screen quality and performance. I'm sure as far as performance there won't be any "real life" differences.
I'm on Sprint and one of those will be my next phone. The possibility of updated Sprint Nexus is also on my mind.. Although farfetched.
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I think I am gonna go with s4. I freakin love sense and the build quality of my HTC phones bit I have to say the HTC tends to have more connectivity issues as far as what I have seen.
I can tell u my EVO LTE is pretty inconsistent when it comes to signal and connecting. I don't think it is entirely the network either because even at the house on WiFi my connection seems to hang quite often at the same time I have problems I pick up my tablet which runs off the same WiFi and it runs just fine.
Another reason is Samsung galaxy has such a big following if I try the s4 and don't like it it will be much easier to find me a person willing to swap their HTC for my galaxy rather than the other way around. I doubt anyone will trade my HTC one for a galaxy if I have the same frustrating issues with it.
The freakin black HTC one is one of the sexiest, nice looking phones I have seen in a while though so who knows. My family plan will be out of contract on all 3 lines at the end of the year so I'm not renewing this quarter I will have plenty of time to make a decision. I don't know that I am going to be staying with sprint.
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Very interesting posts guys/gals. I appreciate all of the responses. I've been with HTC for quite a while as well. My first was the HTC Hero which, in my opinion, was one of the worst smartphones ever made. Then I went with the EVO 3D which treated me very well up until needing a replacement. I went through 8 of those phones and each replacement was worse than the previous. My batteries started getting shot, my phone would turn off randomly and never come back on, and the digitizer constantly went out. I would've been on my 9th until I decided to grab the LTE. I've only had one issue with this phone which was the service cutting out and never coming back on. I then got it replaced for free so no complaints.
The build of the LTE I think is very poor. Out of the box there was already cosmetic damage and I refuse to use cases since I never drop my phone's anymore. *knock on forum* I'm just having a really hard time deciding what I want to do. I'll probably end up with the HTC One but it'd be nice to switch it up too.
But making the switch either leaves me satisfied for two years or in deep regret for two years.
This is a tough one. The only reason I wanted the S3 was for 1 more gig of RAM. But with both of the new phones sporting quad-core and 2gb of RAM then I almost might as well stick with HTC.
Ugh. Decisions... Decisions...
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which ever 1 that have micro SD....im not losing my 64gb:laugh:
I heard that the battery life on the S4 is not good, anybody else hear this?
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It's kind of early to judge battery life since the test phones are all pre- production. Many times software will fix things.
I've been really happy with the lte but may wait and see what the next nexus service is and then decide if I'll stay with sprint.
The htc one has received better results in the rf testing than the lte did. So that is encouraging. Should mean better connections for calls and data.
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I will be going with the One.
Personally, after being on Sense, I feel like TouchWiz (Samsung's Sense) is designed for children who still need to ask their parents permission for playdates. Totally ugly and way too colorful.
Also, after using Sense 5, I don't ever want to use another OS. It is incredibly enjoyable.
Now think about if we had all the One X and Evo devs working together - I can't imagine anyone would need more options than that.
I am getting a One before May because I am so impressed with Sense on my EVO and I love HTC.
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I heard that the battery life on the S4 is not good, anybody else hear this?
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Yeah. Saw that a bit ago. The One only beat it in one category though. However, the differences are that big either. But both of the phones don't have the best battery life.
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One... Htc phone make and quality looks superb. Not to mention they change hardware and look so much that it really is a new phone. Unless you want the s3 with a faster processor...(hint s4)
Don't get me wrong. The software features are cool and all but sense widgets give you a reason to have multiple home screens.
Just my 2 cents....
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One... Htc phone make and quality looks superb. Not to mention they change hardware and look so much that it really is a new phone. Unless you want the s3 with a faster processor...(hint s4)
Don't get me wrong. The software features are cool and all but sense widgets give you a reason to have multiple home screens.
Just my 2 cents....
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That's pretty much it with the S4. Idk why they didn't change anything with the body. I know there were talks of an S4 mini but... Eh. Maybe the Note 3 is going to be more impressive? I just don't get it. All of the EVO's were different. Even the newest One =P I wish they would've stuck with the EVO name though. Assuming the EVO is pretty much done. The HTC One would've made a great EVO. But whatever. Now when people ask what kind of phone I have I'll say "that One phone." Soft humor.
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I wish they would've stuck with the EVO name though. Assuming the EVO is pretty much done. The HTC One would've made a great EVO. But whatever. Now when people ask what kind of phone I have I'll say "that One phone." Soft humor.
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That's the best part.
"what phone do you have?"
THERE IS ONLY "ONE" WORTH IT!
HAHAA!!! WOOOOOO! :thumbup:
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