Hello I will be receiving my EVO 3D soon and I'm pretty sure it has an eng hboot and I was wondering if I should leave it as such or should/could I flash it to hboot 1.4? I pretty much want the same rooting abilities I currently have on my EVO 4G I'm not looking to delve into something I know nothing about...Thank you
TheMC1192 said:
Hello I will be receiving my EVO 3D soon and I'm pretty sure it has an eng hboot and I was wondering if I should leave it as such or should/could I flash it to hboot 1.4? I pretty much want the same rooting abilities I currently have on my EVO 4G I'm not looking to delve into something I know nothing about...Thank you
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Understand:
(all are assumed that bootloader are unlocked)
1.4 hboot S-OFF = you can root like we've traditionally have for years and flash any rom
1.5 hboot S-OFF = you can downgrade the hboot to 1.4 and root and flash roms as will or you can keep it and still root and flash roms as will.
1.5 hboot S-ON = you can still root and flash roms as will BUT you just need to flash the kernel (boot.img) first before you switch roms via Flash GUI or fastboot and that's it!
I really don't understand why one extra step bothers people so much? if your hear, you like the hard way, IF you wouldn't then you would stay stock, unrooted and keep living the normal life.....
I'm not worried about doing a little extra leg work trust its just that I was under the impression that you cannot get true s-off on hboot 1.5. But that wasn't my question I wanted to know if it was possible to upgrade the eng hboot to hboot 1.4 and how or point me to a thread that has that explained. Sorry if wasn't clear from the beginning
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How do u know if u r s off or on? I know I'm 1.5
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@enko420:
It's easy to find out just have to go into your bootloader by holding power+vol down when screen is off and it will say at the top of the bootloader screen
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TheMC1192 said:
@enko420:
It's easy to find out just have to go into your bootloader by holding power+vol down when screen is off and it will say at the top of the bootloader screen
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Thanks a lot bud, not to figure out how to flash roms since I am S-ON. or maybe find a path to get S-OFF on the 1.50
go into bootloader and it should say
enko420 said:
Thanks a lot bud, not to figure out how to flash roms since I am S-ON. or maybe find a path to get S-OFF on the 1.50
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There is no soff currently for hboot 1.5. But its real easy if you don't want to use a computer. Just use joeykrim app called flash image gui from the market. There is even a free version on xda. Use that to flash a kernel. Then boot into your recovery and flash the rom. Definitely easy. The only thing hboot locks to my understanding would be radio. Well kernel too but thats an easy workaround with the app.
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enko420 said:
Thanks a lot bud, not to figure out how to flash roms since I am S-ON. or maybe find a path to get S-OFF on the 1.50
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I have a guide/flashing notes in my signature that may clear some things up for you.
mpgrimm2 said:
I have a guide/flashing notes in my signature that may clear some things up for you.
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Thanks for your help and your guide, much easier than I thought
Related
Is there a easy root for HTC evo like Ginger break.
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Revolutionary is really easy. Unless you have hboot 1.5, then you're pretty much ****ed. And by ****ed, I mean you're stuck with HTC's ***** root method.
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Revolutionary is really easy. Unless you have hboot 1.5, then you're pretty much ****ed. And by ****ed, I mean you're stuck with HTC's ***** root method.
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This is very constructive criticism.
SolsticeZero said:
Revolutionary is really easy. Unless you have hboot 1.5, then you're pretty much ****ed. And by ****ed, I mean you're stuck with HTC's ***** root method.
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I actually don't see anything wrong with the way he answered the question. This statement is 100% correct.
cmdauria said:
I actually don't see anything wrong with the way he answered the question. This statement is 100% correct.
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^^
THIS.
Correct statement, about a correct statement.
~Jasecloud4
Ok so do anybody thinks its worth to upgrade to the htc 3d from the HTC evo
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cman813 said:
Ok so do anybody thinks its worth to upgrade to the htc 3d from the HTC evo
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How much are you selling the evo and how much are you buying it for?
If you sell it for ~100 and get it for ~200, it could be worth it depending on what you do with your phone.
cman813 said:
Ok so do anybody thinks its worth to upgrade to the htc 3d from the HTC evo
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Anything under Hboot 1.50, hell yeah!
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There's nothing wrong with HTC's method or HBOOT 1.50 or being able to get s-off. They're all the same and accomplish the same thing if you can read and follow directions. People *****ed because HTC locked the phone. They unlocked it and people still ***** and moan. It's not like you're stuck on the stock ROM if you have HBOOT 1.50.
The thing I am unsure about is does HTC give you full root access. Not even flashing ROMS but like super user stuff and seeing into hidden memories.
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DJ1994 said:
The thing I am unsure about is does HTC give you full root access. Not even flashing ROMS but like super user stuff and seeing into hidden memories.
boom!! from my shooter
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Yes, it's no different than being S-off other than you cannot downgrade your HBOOT version and maybe radios (someone correct me if I'm wrong). You will need to flash ROMs containing custom kernels a little differently. I think you remove the kernel from the .zip, flash the ROM, and then flash the kernel via fastboot (I could have the order wrong, but it's not complicated and there are several threads about how to do it).
I was trading my evo with the seidio extended battery for a evo 3d and $130
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Oh well that's good to hear I was under the impression that it was just for allowing different roms. Thanks
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Yes, it's no different than being S-off other than you cannot downgrade your HBOOT version and maybe radios (someone correct me if I'm wrong). You will need to flash ROMs containing custom kernels a little differently. I think you remove the kernel from the .zip, flash the ROM, and then flash the kernel via fastboot (I could have the order wrong, but it's not complicated and there are several threads about how to do it).
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It's not about how complicated it is. It's about how HTC said they would unlock our devices, and they gave us a half assed method of doing it. I shouldn't HAVE to flash kernels through fastboot. I should be able to launch a recovery and flash to my hearts content. It's my god damn phone, they should give me access to it.
HTC's method doesn't give you S-OFF
some people claim you can flash a kernel from fastboot, I followed right along and nope... looks like it flashes, reverts every time on my S-ON unlocked via TWRP or CWM. Sooo, I don't think they're fibbing, but a lot of the S-ON phones are still pretty much un-rooted
Sorry guys, I have a S-On Unlocked EVO3D and installed CMW with Root access.
Is it a temporary root? I still have root access after I reboot it. Or S-Off means other thing?
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Sorry guys, I have a S-On Unlocked EVO3D and installed CMW with Root access.
Is it a temporary root? I still have root access after I reboot it. Or S-Off means other thing?
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Your root is permanent. The different between HTC's Unlock and S-OFF is that HTC's Unlock only half-S-Off's your phone. You have to flash kernels and ROMs via fastboot. With S-OFF, you can flash through recovery as you wish.
Anything you flash should permanently stay so your root access should stay.
like the title says... is it done yet? been looking and looking for solutions to that question. i'm already rooted using the htc method. but still looking for a way to get s-off.
check the 3D general section, there are a few threads on it with varying info.
short answer though - no
There has been some effort made towards this front, with little success. Whether you think it's a smoke screen, or not, evil devnull, and his team, attempted this around thanksgiving, and couldn't come up with anything. Not sure if revolutionary is quietly working on something, or if they are waiting for the ICS update, or if they are just done with bootloader unlocking, period (I'm not bashing those guys, but they have been eerily quiet since the bootloader changed to 1.5).
The unlocked, non carrier branded GSM guys have found a way to revert back to an eariler bootloader, using the HTC unlock method, and then performing a similar method to what the thunderbolt/evo shift 4g guys did to allow the Hboot to accept a RUU with an earlier hboot.
I think this doesn't get much attention, because the HTC unlock method allows you can do almost everything you could if you had S-OFF. The only thing missing is being able to flash radios.
At this point it wouldn't make sense for devs to come up with a solution now. Not with ICS around the corner
is there a temp root for hboot 1.5?
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At this point it wouldn't make sense for devs to come up with a solution now. Not with ICS around the corner
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whats ics?
The only reason why i ask is because, ##data# or what ever it is, i found my midi number using an app in market place, but when i tried to adjust my volume. it doesnt want to work. i was wondering if me having s-on and rooted is affecting it in any way.
Ics is ice cream sandwich new android OS hopefully coming to the EVO 3d early 2012.
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EVO 3D 1.5 100% stock
I want to flash a rom
Olympus Trinity XE Titan HD
I'm a little lost on the whole s off thing
help please
I'm a Motorola DROID x rom flasher
not familiar with HTC
PLEASE HELP.
thanx
treeworx said:
I want to flash a rom
Olympus Trinity XE Titan HD
I'm a little lost on the whole s off thing
help please
I'm a Motorola DROID x rom flasher
not familiar with HTC
PLEASE HELP.
thanx
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What hboot are you?
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Edit just saw your whole post have a look here my man this is where to start.
s off
first start here at htc dev and unlock the bootloader and when thats done install a custom recovery like 4ext and then install the su file and now your ready to flash a custom rom now thats done look in the dev section for downgrading your hboot from 1.50 to 1.49.0007 and now your ready for alpharevolutionary.io and when thats done you have s off and your hboot will be 1.49.1107
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first start here at htc dev and unlock the bootloader and when thats done install a custom recovery like 4ext and then install the su file and now your ready to flash a custom rom now thats done look in the dev section for downgrading your hboot from 1.50 to 1.49.0007 and now your ready for alpharevolutionary.io and when thats done you have s off and your hboot will be 1.49.1107
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stick with 1.5 if you dont like the downgrade 4ext just got a way to flash kernels from recovery i dont like to brick my phone lol
I had my phone flashed to MetroPCS and the guy updated my hboot to 1.5 I saw a thread a couple months back about being able to downboot my hboot from 1.5 to 1.4 with S-off but a search didn't help me find anything. Anyone know the steps/point me in the right direction?
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I had my phone flashed to MetroPCS and the guy updated my hboot to 1.5 I saw a thread a couple months back about being able to downboot my hboot from 1.5 to 1.4 with S-off but a search didn't help me find anything. Anyone know the steps/point me in the right direction?
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I've answered this a few times on this board regarding the CDMA version of the EVO 3D. I'll quote from my previous posts as I don't think anything has changed. Please post back if you still have questions!
joeykrim said:
Here are a few reasons why we aren't able to downgrade the Hboot, like was done on the EVO Shift twice:
[Q] Downgrading HBOOT 1.5 --> 1.4
Originally Posted by joeykrim
the shift didn't have all the partitions nand write locked like the EVO 3D does.
1st time around: shift didnt 'have nand write lock on the hboot partition, hence being able to temp root and directly flash eng hboot to the hboot partition.
2nd time around: shift didn't have the nand write lock on the misc partition, hence being able to temp root and flash a lower version to the misc partition then hboot would allow a downgraded version of software to be loaded.
esseentially it seems as if htc was doing the bare minimum to protect the shift from being unlocked/rooted as all these methods were known and some were used on the HTC EVO prior to the shift software releases.
this has been covered a few times on the forums, but i hope rehashing old ideas/attempts might spark new ones! sometimes it only takes a slight tweak to an old method for it to bypass a patch and work! hope that helps!
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thatguy11285 said:
I had my phone flashed to MetroPCS and the guy updated my hboot to 1.5 I saw a thread a couple months back about being able to downboot my hboot from 1.5 to 1.4 with S-off but a search didn't help me find anything. Anyone know the steps/point me in the right direction?
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If your hboot was soff before he upgraded, then it would still be soff, so if you're on hboot 1.5 with s off, then you can downgrade. If you're s on, then you're stuck.
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Yes my S-Off flag is still showing in the Bootloader
I know downgrading from 1.5 with S-on is currently impossible but I know it can be done with S-off
Should've clarified I guess
Edit: yes it is CDMA
thatguy11285 said:
Yes my S-Off flag is still showing in the Bootloader
I know downgrading from 1.5 with S-on is currently impossible but I know it can be done with S-off
Should've clarified I guess
Edit: yes it is CDMA
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21538250
Follow that thread to get back to hboot 1.4.
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k2buckley said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21538250
Follow that thread to get back to hboot 1.4.
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K2 speaketh the truth.
Flash the 1.40 Hboot and you're golden Pony Boy.
k2buckley said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21538250
Follow that thread to get back to hboot 1.4.
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I love you. In an internet brofist kind of way.
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Always glad to help!
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I may be the only one that doesn't have any problems with 1.5. With joeykrims flash gui, you can do pretty much anything 1.4 can do. :shrug:
Man. Wish I have s-off
What exactly are the benefits of gaining s-off ??
I am confused...i have a gsm evo 3d and some tutorials are of s-off and others s-on ?
What will be the best... i am a newbie at this !
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With S-OFF you can flash PG86IMG.zip files from SD card in bootloader (ICS firmware, radio...), also you don't have to always flash boot.img via fastboot after flashing of new ROM.
Forgot I something?
Benik3 said:
With S-OFF you can flash PG86IMG.zip files from SD card in bootloader (ICS firmware, radio...), also you don't have to always flash boot.img via fastboot after flashing of new ROM.
Forgot I something?
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To add to this, s-on seems to not play well with ics. Most of the issues people have with ics not working right or bootlooping come from s-on users. I highly recommend s-off if possible.
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invince2 said:
What exactly are the benefits of gaining s-off ??
I am confused...i have a gsm evo 3d and some tutorials are of s-off and others s-on ?
What will be the best... i am a newbie at this !
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Yeah, you should definitely go with the tutorials for S-OFF if you are flashing new Roms, and expertimenting with your phone. For the most ICS roms, you have to flash new firmware packages (PG86IMG.zip), and you can do this if you are S-OFF.
It means if i have s-on i can't flash every rom but if i gain s-off it allows full compatibilty?
Am i right ?
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With S-OFF you can flash PG86IMG.zip files from SD card in bootloader (ICS firmware, radio...), also you don't have to always flash boot.img via fastboot after flashing of new ROM.
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Where exactly did u find the tutorial for s-off?
invince2 said:
It means if i have s-on i can't flash every rom but if i gain s-off it allows full compatibilty?
Am i right ?
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Absolutely correct. Not just compatibility with roms, but with every e3d addon.
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invince2 said:
Where exactly did u find the tutorial for s-off?
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Since you are GSM, look at the stickies in the GSM developmental forums.
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I would say go with S-off. I had S-on and it took so much work to get new roms and it was just a pain in the butt. I am now running revolutionary S-off and am using 4ext recovery so i can easily put on new roms in just a few mins. I hope i helped.
Ah crap i just reported this thread for posting warez by goddamn mistake!
My bad
Keeping on topic: I'd say definitely S-off and there is loads of threads on how to do it. Just have a read through them all and try it out, ask for help if you need it and someone is bound to help
taylor308 said:
I would say go with S-off. I had S-on and it took so much work to get new roms and it was just a pain in the butt. I am now running revolutionary S-off and am using 4ext recovery so i can easily put on new roms in just a few mins. I hope i helped.
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But 4ext recovery is available on s-on !
S off makes it easier to flash roms along with any kernel . Best route to go.
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I have two EVO 3d's one is s-on and the other is s-off, both running 4ext touch recovery and both have the same experiance and the same battery life, no extra steps needed to flash roms or kernels..only thing is that only signed packages can be flashed through the bootloader, other than that...no difference.
S off is a life saver. It just is. No matter what HTC does if a dev can get s off for my device. I'm doing it.
I thought I would start a thread to help people that sent there DNA out to get JTAG s-off and now are trying to flash a custom Rom.
If anybody want to put there experience on here so people know the steps and the correct way to handle the bootloader.
I think it would be helpful. I am still waiting for mine to come back from mobiletechvideos so it would be helpful for me to.
Thanks to anyone who contributes.
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
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trickster2369 said:
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
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trickster2369 said:
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
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Yeah you're right. It's a good thread though. I'm thinking Q&A section would probably be good because of the other stuff in the same section.
It will get moved.
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Yeah you're right. It's a good thread though. I'm thinking Q&A section would probably be good because of the other stuff in the same section.
It will get moved.
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I agree, good topic for sure.
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Forum move
Thanks for moving my forum, whoever did. I'm kinda new to the posting in the forums thing...
I should have my DNA back from MobileTech on Thursday. I cant wait but i've seen so many posts of people that got it back and werent sure what to do. Anyways I hope this forum helps out some people.
You've got to unlock and root it, then all the fun begins.
And please take the time to read through these forums, all your questions have been asked and answered. We don't like spoon-feeding people here when the answer is readily available.
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You've got to unlock and root it, then all the fun begins.
And please take the time to read through these forums, all your questions have been asked and answered. We don't like spoon-feeding people here when the answer is readily available.
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The choo choo eats with his hands only!
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
iOSh8er said:
The choo choo eats with his hands only!
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
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How did you know I'm part Philippino? Utensils are banned in that country.
s-off dna
The purpose of the forum is to get the right info I've seen conflicting points on whether or not you still need to unlock the bootloader after s-off.
My understanding was that once your s-off you don't need to unlock because it bypasses the bootloader security checks. I am probably wring but I was hoping to get a clarified answer with this forum what do think choochoo
smokeinluke said:
The purpose of the forum is to get the right info I've seen conflicting points on whether or not you still need to unlock the bootloader after s-off.
My understanding was that once your s-off you don't need to unlock because it bypasses the bootloader security checks. I am probably wring but I was hoping to get a clarified answer with this forum what do think choochoo
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You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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sweet
LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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Thank you for the clarification. That's what I thought but there are people are posting that u need to downgrade via ruu and then use the beups exploit to supercid and then htcdev unlock and I was calling bullswack on that. Lol thanks again
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You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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The eng hboot has more functions available so there is a better chance of messing up the phone. Most people stick with the stock hboot since that's good enough for most.
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The eng hboot has more functions available so there is a better chance of messing up the phone. Most people stick with the stock hboot since that's good enough for most.
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I agree with that only if your not familiar with using the ENG Hboot, if you are then it's the better choice.
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I agree with that only if your not familiar with using the ENG Hboot, if you are then it's the better choice.
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Unless you actually run any of the additional commands included in ENG hboot you will be ok. Much ado about nothing.
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c5satellite2 said:
Unless you actually run any of the additional commands included in ENG hboot you will be ok. Much ado about nothing.
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The biggest issue with eng hboot is if you try to s on your phone with the eng hboot installed you will bard brick your device.
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Bigandrewgold said:
The biggest issue with eng hboot is if you try to s on your phone with the eng hboot installed you will bard brick your device.
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Why would you try to so your device after you have s-offed it
Where do I find the non-eng hboot? I'm paranoid that if I ever need to s-on my phone I'll further I have eng h-boot and brick it so I kind of want to go back.
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LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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Just got my phone back from the JTAG service and this was the exact procedure. Flashed the ENG boot and then flashed recovery. Bootloader still says 'LOCKED' but allowed me to flash.
I've JTAGG'd 18 DNA devices so far on the OTA update (I do this on the downlow due to specific "developer" who can't understand how to get all phones to take the RIFF JTAG flash software.
Flash ENG Hboot if you want the options available to it, though not mandatory. Install a root program (SuperSU is my recommendation), then flash a recovery.
Immediately backup your current setup, then go for any ROM you see fit. Profit.