Hi, guys. I have a little problem and I hope you can help me. Sometimes (it's not usual, but sometimes it happens) my phone (Nexus one, CM7) runs quite slowly, and not fluent at all, just because of an app that is eating all the memory / processor. If I kill that app, problem solved. OK, this is not the real problem here.
When this happened the first time, I went to the running services section in settings, and I checked that the services listed are not ALL the running processes, so even if I kill all the services there, there are still running apps. Then, I tried to install several app killers, just to check if they kill all the running apps, but not only they don't list all the running apps, but also when killing all, there are still apps that keep running (like some games), and the only way I found to find them is checking one by one in the apps list, if they are running or not.
Is there any app to check at once ALL the running apps? I have looked for it, but all I have found are apps to do exercise ("running apps", D'oh!), and stuff like that.
Thank you.
Here's a little something...
Is your phone rooted? - If so, I highly recommend 'Autostarts' - (Search on play).
You can literally set apps not to run from the moment you start-up your phone, stopping them in their tracks until you say so. These include system apps and bloatware and it does a great job of pinpointing which apps are operational & when they are. Some apps open in the background at inappropriate times and you'll be shocked to see how many take up memory without you even noticing.
Give it a whirl.
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Sorry, if you aren't rooted, you could try 'Gemini App Manager' (Also on the Market).
It isn't as streamlined as Autostarts, but there are plenty of additional options built in. Great for any non-rooted phone.
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hi all, im an owner of a sam.charge. I use the app called "System" and it lists about a dozen apps that are stored in my cache or that are using memory when I have not innitiaited the service or app...
I'm most familiar with computers so I'll relate it to that; is there some type of command line that I can use to stop some of these apps from auto start and being stored. For instance on windows you can 'msconfig' what programs are allowed to start on boot up.
Here is a list of apps that I want to stop: AccuWeather.com, Android Booster, Google Voice, HeyTell, Amazon's Appstore, Market, Music, etc.
Most are cached/ inactive but none the less in my task manager when freeing up memory when I notice things to be lagging I'd imagine these to be guilty. Android Booster always lists these as killed apps as well when optimizing...
Im familiar somewhat with how android works being that it often fills a large portion of your memory with what it wants to and frees space as it is needed but these apps for me are rarely used...
Im big on battery life being Im in and out of Sales accounts and rely on my phone heavily so I dont want these things running in the background sucking up resources. Not to mention I like a snappy phone...
If anyone could educate me on this topic Id really appreciate it... I may be mistaken on a few things so call me out on it, since im sure I am... Also, I know their are app freezers and applications you can program to kill apps at a set interval but again I would like the least amount of garbage running as I can
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Some of the basic services are must to be initiated/running all the time such as launcher, keyboard, google voice, market, etc.. so as to run your phone smoothly . This is the default setting of android os. And anyway why do you want to close/stop the services case restarting services uses more battery than kepping them running on the memory ....
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hi all, im an owner of a sam.charge. I use the app called "System" and it lists about a dozen apps that are stored in my cache or that are using memory when I have not innitiaited the service or app...
I'm most familiar with computers so I'll relate it to that; is there some type of command line that I can use to stop some of these apps from auto start and being stored. For instance on windows you can 'msconfig' what programs are allowed to start on boot up.
Here is a list of apps that I want to stop: AccuWeather.com, Android Booster, Google Voice, HeyTell, Amazon's Appstore, Market, Music, etc.
Most are cached/ inactive but none the less in my task manager when freeing up memory when I notice things to be lagging I'd imagine these to be guilty. Android Booster always lists these as killed apps as well when optimizing...
Im familiar somewhat with how android works being that it often fills a large portion of your memory with what it wants to and frees space as it is needed but these apps for me are rarely used...
Im big on battery life being Im in and out of Sales accounts and rely on my phone heavily so I dont want these things running in the background sucking up resources. Not to mention I like a snappy phone...
If anyone could educate me on this topic Id really appreciate it... I may be mistaken on a few things so call me out on it, since im sure I am... Also, I know their are app freezers and applications you can program to kill apps at a set interval but again I would like the least amount of garbage running as I can
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If you find apps that you don't use, you can use a program to freeze them. Just search for freeze in the market. I personally use a free app called System Tuner. Freezing prevent them from starting up and therefore you cannot use them, but later on you can un-freeze them if you need to.
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I use this one, had a bunch of other features.https://market.android.com/details?id=cn.opda.a.phonoalbumshoushou&feature=search_result
Thanks all for the feedback...
To reply to the first response; I have read that about battery life. That, the more you kill apps and reopen them that it takes longer for the app to start up and thus sucking up battery life... I probably should not have mentioned battery life in my post being that I have a car charger and that it contradicts what im trying to accomplish (going over my post, it was stupid of me given what you just mentioned). Also, I'm not so much concerned with market apps or google voice as I am about the apps I installed myself. Those ones are the ones that bother me.
To the other posts thanks for the recommendations I will like into those options. I'm just trying to prevent extra apps from running in the background so freezing them is a last resort.
I'm looking for something that I can type in terminal possibly on program into the OS or app itself to keep it from auto starting... possibly a command line?!
Any developers input? Can this even be done. I'm still very much a beginner but its not beyond my comprehension to do something like this... I know its different but I play around with linux, web design, c++ stuff so if you post directions I can follow smoothly our atleast figure it out if you point me in the right direction
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It's not exactly what your asking for but have you tried Gemini App Manager:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seasmind.android.gmappmgr
You can use it to disable/re-enable an app's autorun settings. When you first open it it will list all user apps currently in memory. Clicking menu then expert mode will give you a list of all apps. Long press an app then click configure autorun.
Just be careful with changing the autorun settings of system apps like market.
"preventing apps from autostarting"
I like this topic a lot!
I think the question(s) and "assumptions" the OP holds are all valid. So I'd really like to hear the answer to the actual question, not a spew of why the question isn't valid.
How do you stop apps from starting up on their own? (like microsofts msconfig)
Pretty simple question and I cannot find the answer! I've been in software for many year and I'm rather stunned by the responses people are giving - which basically say "who cares, android O/S handles it for you".
Well, lets face it:
*If* the user didn't call for the app, and had no desire to use it, then the "system" loading it even ONCE, is one too many.
*If* the app is a DESIRED app, (OR device required), *BUT* uses data - then if the user didn't want to use it; "yet" - then thats DATA & BATTERY life --> **WASTED**
If the user suspects the APP is misbehaving; one sure fire way would be to SEE it running, when they didn't ask it to!
If you are pure paranoid, or simply want extreme app control....
The kinds of answers people are giving is truly along the the lines of "we dont know, but you're silly for caring"
SOYLENT GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's not exactly what your asking for but have you tried Gemini App Manager:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seasmind.android.gmappmgr
You can use it to disable/re-enable an app's autorun settings. When you first open it it will list all user apps currently in memory. Clicking menu then expert mode will give you a list of all apps. Long press an app then click configure autorun.
Just be careful with changing the autorun settings of system apps like market.
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I'm going to test this out too! And I'll post success if it does well!!!
So I've noticed that even after using the "close all programs" option in the "running" portion of the app drawer, apps start popping up there even if i haven't used them. The nook contacts for instance, i never use, yet it still shows up in "running." It seems to be using storage space, and i certainly don't want those extra apps draining the battery. Has anyone else encountered this?
ETA: So i was mistaking memory for storage, my bad, but i still don' t want apps running on the RAM when i don't want them to. The ones that seem to always pop up are nook contacts, nook shop, pandora, amazon app store, and pulse. Why are these apps initializing? Is it an update/being connected to the internet thing?
I take it this is your first Android device. Check the link to see how memory is managed in Android.
http://mobworld.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/memory-management-in-android/
Yep, first android device, thank you so much, couldnt find anything by searching the forum.
I'm still not 100% sure why apps i'm not using would show up like that, the impression i got from that article was that android has unusual priorities in killing apps in use, why are apps i never use showing up?
Some apps are programmed to stay partially resident in memory because they are used by other apps. Contacts would be used by Email, etc.
Just because it says they're running, though, does not mean that they will affect how your tablet runs at all.
In a nutshell, taskkillers are ineffective and unnecessary in Android. A lot of us come from a Windows-mindset that says "kill tasks to free up memory!" but this does nothing for Android. (The exceptions seem to be rogue processes).
All I know is I was driving myself nuts when I first got my Android phone using task killers, and worrying about apps I'd 'killed' popping right back up again. I was actually slowing down the system, not speeding it up. When I finally read about it, and then got rid of the task killer stuff, my performance actually improved. My limited understanding of this, is that a killed app will actually expend more memory opening itself back up again to run idle, than if you just leave it running idle.
Thank you zaptoons, that makes sense. I hadnt really noticed much ofa difference with the apps killed or not, so very helpful info. Still getting used to my tab, think rooting may be in my future.
I have not explored this and am wondering if I did this, would I notice any performance increase? My tablet isn't sluggish by any means despite Sense being what it is.
Is this something worth looking into? And more importantly, if it is, what exactly is worth freezing on the Jetstream? OR how do I go about just deleting these apps without crashing my device? I usually rely on ROMs from Devs to do these things, but being rooted, we have the ability to delete and freeze the Apps, yea?
Apps I have in mind for freezing/deleting are:
Gameloft, ATT branded bloatware, HTC Likes, HTC Hub, Featured Apps, Kid Mode, Lets Golf, Need for Speed, HTC Watch (is a hog, for some reason), Snapbooth, Teeter, YPMobile, and zinio.
Thanks guys. Hopefully this helps others as well.
i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
interesting. I don't use g+. I will just uninstall it.
How about freezing or removing sys apps?
i froze them using titanium. no issues caused so far..
about system apps - i'm running diablo v1.2 so alot was removed already..and according to the widget non of them pop up..
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i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
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I noticed something similar. I use an app called Rom Toolbox. It displays all the processes that start up with system boot. Many such as facebook, google + and a host of other things, I do not use regularly. So i just disabled the auto-start of those services using ROM Toolbox and it doesn't autorun now. Don't know how effective it is, but when I do check the running apps section under manage applications in settings, I do not see the unnecessary apps running and the memory freed up is more as compared to prior disabling. However I haven't noticed much of a difference in my daily usage of the rom hence don't know how effective it is.
I also use Quick System Information Pro. It has a task clearer widget which I find extremely useful and effective. Whenever I feel that my tab is working a bit slow, I just press on the widget icon and it clears up in the range of 200-300 MB of ram thereby preventing slow down of the tab. It does work with non-Sense launchers as well such as Go Launcher HD.
Using Titanium I uninstalled a lot of the bloatware and froze Sense. Cleared the cache and dalvik using CMW, and things have been working fine up to now. Performance-wise, no lagging and everything seems to run fine. Only kept Google's stock apps like maps and stuff, even though I don't use them.
Also note that I backed up everything I uninstalled just in case, so everything's dandy. Oh, and I reverted back to the stock kernel a while back (still rooted, though).
Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
AW: [Q] Freezing bloatware on stock ROM?
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Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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Yup!
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i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
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i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
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I Froze all the AT&T/HTC Bloatware, however I continue to have FREEZING problems with the YouTube (even after uninstalling the Upgrade).
My work around is to use the YouTube on the stock Browser.
Hope a Permanent FIX for the YouTube app comes sooner than later
I'm sorry if something like this has come up before, it's quite hard to search for specific things like this and I probably look stupid for just realising this now but here goes:
I always assumed that Greenify would only hibernate apps that I myself didn't have running (ie apps that weren't in overview or the foreground) yet I've recently realised that apps in the overview page (recent tasks) on lollipop are also susceptible to being greenified. Is it possible to have apps be excluded from hibernation whilst they are in overview?
For example, I greenify the Eurosport app because it runs a service even though I have push notifications off for it, but I still want to be able to have it in the background and jump back to it without it reloading, so the ideal would be I could leave it in the overview and multitask into it again later. However if the screen has been off for a few minutes Greenify hibernates it meaning it requires a reload, which may in fact use more battery overall than I saved by greenifying it in the first place.
Is it possible to add the condition that apps only get greenified once they've been cleared from overview/recent tasks/multitasking (whatever you want to call it)
It has been discussed before.
1. Android 5.0 removed the ability for an app to get the list of recent apps.
2. Recent app list is actually managed by Android system. An app in the list does not mean its process is still running, and some being squeezed out of the list also do not mean their processes are ended.
So it's not reliable for hibernation to depends on the recent apps list.
In your case, if that app does not cause battery issue, it's suggested to keep it out of Greenify for process to be cached.
I don't know if this is an LG thing or a new android thing (I've been on 5 for too long) but I can't seem to close an individual app.
When I view background apps (button to left of home) I only have the option to clear all but can't close / clear an individual app.
Is this the new normal? Or is there a setting to enable this?
If you swipe up on a background app, that will close it.
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The Android OS will take care of removing apps from memory as needed, so usually it's not necessary for the user to remove or close background apps.
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If you swipe up on a background app, that will close it.
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The Android OS will take care of removing apps from memory as needed, so usually it's not necessary for the user to remove or close background apps.
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Yeah I discovered that recently. However I don't think it's actually stopping the app. It just removes it from the recently used task list.
From what I've seen the state is preserved after the fact. Opening it again gets me back to a state that I would expect to be transient and lost when I removed it.
It seems that only after explicitly killing the app it clears the memory. idk maybe this is all because the phone has 4GB RAM so one can take liberties with it.
Although I kinda prefer to actually kill the process when I exit.
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Yeah I discovered that recently. However I don't think it's actually stopping the app. It just removes it from the recently used task list.
From what I've seen the state is preserved after the fact. Opening it again gets me back to a state that I would expect to be transient and lost when I removed it.
It seems that only after explicitly killing the app it clears the memory. idk maybe this is all because the phone has 4GB RAM so one can take liberties with it.
Although I kinda prefer to actually kill the process when I exit.
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You can see the actual background apps running by going to Settings -> system -> developer options (must be enabled first) -> running services. Check that swiping an app will remove it from the list. It could be that if you had a slow phone in the past, the speed of the new phone might make it look like it is loading apps from the background. By the way, it is 6gigs of RAM, not 4