I have not explored this and am wondering if I did this, would I notice any performance increase? My tablet isn't sluggish by any means despite Sense being what it is.
Is this something worth looking into? And more importantly, if it is, what exactly is worth freezing on the Jetstream? OR how do I go about just deleting these apps without crashing my device? I usually rely on ROMs from Devs to do these things, but being rooted, we have the ability to delete and freeze the Apps, yea?
Apps I have in mind for freezing/deleting are:
Gameloft, ATT branded bloatware, HTC Likes, HTC Hub, Featured Apps, Kid Mode, Lets Golf, Need for Speed, HTC Watch (is a hog, for some reason), Snapbooth, Teeter, YPMobile, and zinio.
Thanks guys. Hopefully this helps others as well.
i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
interesting. I don't use g+. I will just uninstall it.
How about freezing or removing sys apps?
i froze them using titanium. no issues caused so far..
about system apps - i'm running diablo v1.2 so alot was removed already..and according to the widget non of them pop up..
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i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
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I noticed something similar. I use an app called Rom Toolbox. It displays all the processes that start up with system boot. Many such as facebook, google + and a host of other things, I do not use regularly. So i just disabled the auto-start of those services using ROM Toolbox and it doesn't autorun now. Don't know how effective it is, but when I do check the running apps section under manage applications in settings, I do not see the unnecessary apps running and the memory freed up is more as compared to prior disabling. However I haven't noticed much of a difference in my daily usage of the rom hence don't know how effective it is.
I also use Quick System Information Pro. It has a task clearer widget which I find extremely useful and effective. Whenever I feel that my tab is working a bit slow, I just press on the widget icon and it clears up in the range of 200-300 MB of ram thereby preventing slow down of the tab. It does work with non-Sense launchers as well such as Go Launcher HD.
Using Titanium I uninstalled a lot of the bloatware and froze Sense. Cleared the cache and dalvik using CMW, and things have been working fine up to now. Performance-wise, no lagging and everything seems to run fine. Only kept Google's stock apps like maps and stuff, even though I don't use them.
Also note that I backed up everything I uninstalled just in case, so everything's dandy. Oh, and I reverted back to the stock kernel a while back (still rooted, though).
Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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Yup!
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i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
guru_shastri said:
i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
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I Froze all the AT&T/HTC Bloatware, however I continue to have FREEZING problems with the YouTube (even after uninstalling the Upgrade).
My work around is to use the YouTube on the stock Browser.
Hope a Permanent FIX for the YouTube app comes sooner than later
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like widgets? such as "apmobiles", seems to be a newspaper sort of thing i will never read. i also can't uninstall social/music/gaming/book hubs? i'm in the setting/applications/manage applications bit.
i want to basically delete a LOT of apps then only install what I need? i'm new to smartphones, moved from a nokia keypad phone. so the galaxy s2 was a massive jump for me.
Have a search for titanium backup and root. You'll need to root your phone 1st before you can 'freeze' but not remove apps.
The phone is brand new and it will take a while before custom roms that let you remove apps are available.
If I were you I'd wait before rooting as it is still a bit complicated and simpler methods will come along soon, I'm sure. I'd use the time to read the guides and get familiar with the phone.
Bear in mind that rooting/custom roms will lose you your warranty. Also, I'm not too worried about app removal as the phone has plenty of memory for my needs. Just remove the apps you don't want from the home screen and put on the ones that you do.
Edit: just wanted to clarify that I was referring to removing pre - installed apps.
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Thanks for that, it's that I also noticed that there are services running in the background from applications that I'm not using, like I have the apmobile service running and also a social hub service running even neither is open. And I at least want to remove app shortcuts from the menu.
You'll need to root and freeze to remove the shortcut from the app drawer. I really wouldn't do that until you've read up and are confident though.
There are other threads about the social hub, have a search. I think you'll need to reset the phone and then not add any accounts if you want to stop it from being active.
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To add-up about removing the widgets (probably you've found it already though), you only need to hold down the widget and slide it down to an area says remove
this phone comes with a built in task manager and a widget that shows you active tasks, i use the widget on my phone's desktop to close apps as needed ( i know the phone can handle it but its just my own thing lol ) and from there, there's a tab that lets you uninstall apps as well.
ofcourse you wont be able to uninstall those that came with the phone just yet.
I rooted mine which was dead easy and was my first time so you'll be fine. Download AntTek app manager from the market its free and lets you freeze, delete and backup any apps and widgets you want. You will no longer have any of those crap apps working in the background draining your battery. Hope this helps.
Edit: Oh yeah the built in task manager doesn't show system apps working in the background or at least not all so well worth freezing or removing them.
hi
Some questions from a newbie to Android.
1. the Accounts and Sync Settings does not seem to have a section for setting up a normal POP3 email account ... is it missing, somewhere else, or am I just clueless?
2. There is always a lot of crap running in the back ground. The phone seems to start up SocialHub, which I don't use, but that kicks off Email (currently set to NOT sync, and only required gmail account defined). How do I stop the social hub from starting up? Killing the tasks does not help, they just restart later.
Other things which keep starting include Latitude and Gallery. I've already removed ALL the widgets from the TW interface, except the four defaults along the bottom.
Am using Go Launcher as well as Touchwiz.
Have rooted the device then reinstalled KE2.
Thanks, Ian
If you never really use social hub, just remove it using root explorer. That way it can never bother you.
It is safe to remove, check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924
not sure about the other stuff sorry
this is the way android functions.. dont worry.. unless it is really dramatically slowing down you rphone, which i doubt so!
I used Norton Utilities to see that there is A LOT of apps currently in some type of semi-running state.
What I notice as well is that Angry Birds official from Market runs choppy - birds fly with varying speed - decreasing accuracy and making game experience worse
Any comments on this would be appreciated.
kar111 said:
If you never really use social hub, just remove it using root explorer. That way it can never bother you.
It is safe to remove, check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924
not sure about the other stuff sorry
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Better still IMO freeze it with Titanium, then if you have issues (unlikely) or change your mind, you can just unfreeze it.
Solved (mostly)
Well the good news is that I had an app called Gemini App Manager, which allows you to stop things from Autoloading.
Since I am rooted, I could switch on Expert Mode which shows you ALL the things that run and under what circumstances... had to go through those and switch off the various autorun conditions and things are much better now.
I see there are other apps on Market which also offer autorun editing but have not tested those .. Gemini works for me.
Only worry is that when I do kernel update all those setting may get reset ... oh well.
cheers, Ian
For as long as I've been a member here, I don't think I've ever started two threads in one day in a Dev section that I was so unsure belonged in the dev section... so Mods, please forgive if this is in the wrong place.
I thought it would be helpful to get a running list of apps that can be frozen with Titanium that won't cause any FC's or other problems. I'm a bit extreme with this, I think, compared to most... I tend to freeze (or remove) a LOT of stuff.... but so far I haven't caused any problems. Here is my list:
Amazon Kindle
Backup Assistant
Blockbuster
Books
Car Panel
com.htc.footprints.widget3d
Connected Media
Facebook
Facebook Chat Widget
Facebook for HTC Sense
Fb Chat
Flickr
Footprints
Friend Stream (there are two of these with different versions on my Rez)
Friend Stream Widget
Gmail
Home screen tips
Mobile Hotspot
Mobile IM
Mobile Instant Messaging
Music
Music Enhancer
Music Widget
News
News Widget
NFL Mobile
Peep
Polaris
Slacker
Stock Widget
Stocks (There are two of these as well)
Talk
Task Manager
Task Widget
Tasks
Tethering Guard (WTF IS THIS????? A way for them to keep us from free tethering??)
Tips for Home
Trends Widget
Twitter Widget
Usage Monitor
Vcast Media Manager
Vcast Music
Vcast Videos
VZ Navigator
Watch
Watch Widget
So far, so good. And I've little doubt that much more can be removed... on my Dinc, I always ran a Sense ROM, but I'd run them REALLY lean. I will be experimenting more with what can be removed and will update the list as I do...
EDIT: Froze quite a few more apps, still no FC's or other issues, here are the additional ones...
App Sharing
Archive Viewing
Data Dashboard (this is a widget)
Data Roaming (this is a widget)
Field Trial
Hot Pursuit
HTC Report Agent
Jetcet Print
Jetcet Print Resources
Let's Golf 2
My Verizon Mobile
NewBayService
Power Dashboard (this is a widget)
Profile Widget (this is a widget)
Ringtone Trimmer
Ringtone Widget (this is a widget)
Screen Brightness (this is a widget)
Screen Timeout (this is a widget)
Tell HTC
Good looking out! Looks like i can freeze a couple more!
Thanks for testing all of that and posting the list.
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Do these apps re-install after a reboot like others are reporting with temp root or does "freezing" have better results than deleting?
Freezing them sticks after reboots. It is almost as good as removing them.
But OP, you really went to town on the freezing.
Thanks for testing these! Appreciated.
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But OP, you really went to town on the freezing.
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hahah I said in the first post, I freeze a LOT of stuff. You can freeze as few or as many of those apps as you need, I just wanted to guinea pig it and see what would crash, so far no issues.
As mentioned above, freezing DOES stick after a reboot. However, unlike freezing on a fully rooted device, freezing here doesn't remove the apps' market links, and doesnt remove them from the apps list in settings. It DOES remove them from the app drawer and keep them from running, which is what matters
I just tried to freeze apps with "Bloat Freezer Free" and most of the apps came back after a reboot. Is everyone else using Titanium? Does it "freeze" apps differently?
Thanks!
I've only ever used Titanium to freeze apps but you need the pro version. WELL worth the money, this app has proven very useful.
Added almost 20 more apps...
I need to have temp root going to make this happen, right?
I'm on a Mac. Loving the rezound so far even without root .
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yep must have temp root and using Titanium or something equivalent
I'm moving this to the App section since it is more related to that section.
Thanks for this list, but have you tried removing any, if possible?
Bluetooth busted?
Trying to troubleshoot it but I froze most of the apps from your first list but noticed this afternoon I could not get my Bluetooth to turn on. Could be a coincidence but any chance freezing one of those apps could cause that?
trying to get mine to temp root it self would cause BT to quit working
reboot would fix it most of the time
I don't think any of the apps I listed would cause BT to stop working. I did try to remove an app once and it crashed Titanium. I figure without S-OFF that's not going to be happening any time soon, since we can't get the /system/ folder mounted in R/W.
Thanks for this. I loaded my own task manager and I couldn't believe all the junk that autostarts on boot. This cut down on that signficantly!
Now I just can't wait for a debloated ROM to come out.
Superguy said:
Thanks for this. I loaded my own task manager and I couldn't believe all the junk that autostarts on boot. This cut down on that signficantly!
Now I just can't wait for a debloated ROM to come out.
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Which task manager did you load?
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I just tried to freeze apps with "Bloat Freezer Free" and most of the apps came back after a reboot. Is everyone else using Titanium? Does it "freeze" apps differently?
Thanks!
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You can use App Quarantine:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine
Free and does the same thing -- I've used it on my Rezound (I have Titanium Backup as well, but this has a lighter footprint and our temp root is finicky).
My gf's xt912 on 4.1.2 has been rooted running stock. She just wanted to adblock and be able to bu her data w/TiBu. She been noticing the phone lagging lately. No new apps installed and I ck'd for apps running in bk ground. I did notice via TiBu her system Rom 667 MB (20.1 MB free). Could this be the reason for the lag?
Thanks for the help
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My gf's xt912 on 4.1.2 has been rooted running stock. She just wanted to adblock and be able to bu her data w/TiBu. She been noticing the phone lagging lately. No new apps installed and I ck'd for apps running in bk ground. I did notice via TiBu her system Rom 667 MB (20.1 MB free). Could this be the reason for the lag?
Thanks for the help
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Have you checked to see how many apps she has running at startup? My girlfriend had the same problem on her droid4, lagging and battery wasn't the best. When she had me checked it out she had 30 or 40 apps/games she had downloaded once to chekc out, then never touched them again, and most of them were running at startup in the background. In other words apps she didn't care about were always on, draining her battery and bogging down her processor
Hope this helps
She does have a couple of apps she rarely uses. I didn't ck for any that start up, just running in the bk ground constantly. Where do I check for start up apps?
Thanks
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She does have a couple of apps she rarely uses. I didn't ck for any that start up, just running in the bk ground constantly. Where do I check for start up apps?
Thanks
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Go to apps in the setting then check currently running apps. this will show all the apps that are currently running on the phone, and you will notice there are apps on there that were not started up but ARE running in the background. you will have to use common sense in determining what apps you feel should be running and shouldn't.
A app that I like to use is addons detector. this app scans all the permissions of games and apps in your phone and allows you to check out what apps are requesting what permissions on a per permission basis. It will also list apps bsed on what type of mobile ad company an app is using (admob, google etc.) some are more intrusive than others or allow malware.
Having tiBu, if there are particular apps she doesn't use much, but does like them being handy when she does decide to use them, and they having intrusive permsissions (start at boot, start, when screen is unlocked etc, etc.) She can freeze them with TiBu.
She can also check out greenify, which does a pretty good job at hibernating apps that aren't in use to they point they are almost frozen, but cuts out a couple of steps.
Another app you could check out is SDmaid, this could help you in finding cached data in apps and system, that might be bogging the processor down.
So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
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Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
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I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
noddledizzy said:
I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
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No cleaners, optimizers, etc?
I'm just asking because I had installed paid CC cleaner app upon a good review on technical website. But after running for a few days I noticed it was killing tasks in the background, like Waze when I would look at an incoming email. Waze was running just fine until it temporarily became a background task. Then it got killed, even though I was still using it!
Also my phone started running hot and had become sluggish in spite of the fact this app was supposed to be "optimizing" my phone. So I uninstalled it.
I'm just curious if there's some app you've have for a while that you forgotten about, that is doing something like that... That would also explain why you see it on stock as well as custom ROMs, because it would be an app you installed yourself.
Least likely is you have the nuclear setting in Developer Options to limit how many apps can run at one time. Most people don't even know about that.
Otherwise I have no other answers.
Thanks for the insight. But the thing is, 90% of apps I have in both my US998 and H918 are open-source from F-droid. None of them really messes up with my battery. The only proprietary apps I have are first party apps from Google like Youtube, Google maps and Play services and some stock LG apps. Yeah, I never touch the app background limit in the developer options. Anyway, I appreciate you trying to help me and you already helped me a lot before.