My gf's xt912 on 4.1.2 has been rooted running stock. She just wanted to adblock and be able to bu her data w/TiBu. She been noticing the phone lagging lately. No new apps installed and I ck'd for apps running in bk ground. I did notice via TiBu her system Rom 667 MB (20.1 MB free). Could this be the reason for the lag?
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Xmeoff said:
My gf's xt912 on 4.1.2 has been rooted running stock. She just wanted to adblock and be able to bu her data w/TiBu. She been noticing the phone lagging lately. No new apps installed and I ck'd for apps running in bk ground. I did notice via TiBu her system Rom 667 MB (20.1 MB free). Could this be the reason for the lag?
Thanks for the help
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Have you checked to see how many apps she has running at startup? My girlfriend had the same problem on her droid4, lagging and battery wasn't the best. When she had me checked it out she had 30 or 40 apps/games she had downloaded once to chekc out, then never touched them again, and most of them were running at startup in the background. In other words apps she didn't care about were always on, draining her battery and bogging down her processor
Hope this helps
She does have a couple of apps she rarely uses. I didn't ck for any that start up, just running in the bk ground constantly. Where do I check for start up apps?
Thanks
Xmeoff said:
She does have a couple of apps she rarely uses. I didn't ck for any that start up, just running in the bk ground constantly. Where do I check for start up apps?
Thanks
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Go to apps in the setting then check currently running apps. this will show all the apps that are currently running on the phone, and you will notice there are apps on there that were not started up but ARE running in the background. you will have to use common sense in determining what apps you feel should be running and shouldn't.
A app that I like to use is addons detector. this app scans all the permissions of games and apps in your phone and allows you to check out what apps are requesting what permissions on a per permission basis. It will also list apps bsed on what type of mobile ad company an app is using (admob, google etc.) some are more intrusive than others or allow malware.
Having tiBu, if there are particular apps she doesn't use much, but does like them being handy when she does decide to use them, and they having intrusive permsissions (start at boot, start, when screen is unlocked etc, etc.) She can freeze them with TiBu.
She can also check out greenify, which does a pretty good job at hibernating apps that aren't in use to they point they are almost frozen, but cuts out a couple of steps.
Another app you could check out is SDmaid, this could help you in finding cached data in apps and system, that might be bogging the processor down.
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I installed a task killer and noticed that when killing certain apps, the phone just lags real bad. I discontinued use of it and now the phone has no serious pausing. I was killing unknown apps with Android box icons.
heygrl said:
I installed a task killer and noticed that when killing certain apps, the phone just lags real bad. I discontinued use of it and now the phone has no serious pausing. I was killing unknown apps with Android box icons.
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yeah I uninstalled it as well. I heard Android does great job of managing ram and as soon as it gets low, it will start killing other apps automatically.
you need to learn what apps need to stay running, but some apps are just fluff and worthless... you may need to set up you task killer to ignore certain apps like handcent and clock... killing any android processes is usually a bad idea.. I just kill my 3rd party apps that open for no reason or use it to close apps when I am done using my phone for a while...
You should not need a task killer with this phone. Android has been managing its own memory and background services quite nicely for a while now.
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You should not need a task killer with this phone. Android has been managing its own memory and background services quite nicely for a while now.
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Thats what i was told but when i uninstalled the task killer my phone lagged with everything i did. Even when closing programs properly it still lagged. Im keeping my task killer.
acjames said:
Thats what i was told but when i uninstalled the task killer my phone lagged with everything i did. Even when closing programs properly it still lagged. Im keeping my task killer.
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yeah maybe its not as good as most people say it is at controlling its own memory usage.
Task Killers = meh,
Android has a way of doing things and that means keeping apps open for some time, I tried using app-killers and it did not seem to make my phones run better, and auto kill everything is even worse...
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I installed a task killer and noticed that when killing certain apps, the phone just lags real bad. I discontinued use of it and now the phone has no serious pausing. I was killing unknown apps with Android box icons.
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idk if youre rooted or not, or if this app works on the vibrant cuz it does an amazing job on the g1, but you could try autokiller, tho it requires root. what it does is change the android memory management settings and will kill apps more frequently depending on the settings you choose.
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idk if youre rooted or not, or if this app works on the vibrant cuz it does an amazing job on the g1, but you could try autokiller, tho it requires root. what it does is change the android memory management settings and will kill apps more frequently depending on the settings you choose.
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I still need to use it for those unruly apps but I got so used to it because my old phone would lag with Slacker even in the background and I had to kill it. I've stopped using it and I've stopped having major problems. Just an FYI for those out there that still use one, it's not needed here on a regular basis really.
I noticed that I can't use the "kill all" function in Advanced Task Manager by Arron La any more without making my phone freeze up. My brother suggestion Task Manager by Rhythm Software (he has a MyTouch Slide). This program doesn't give me any problems when killing files and also doesn't list system files (that I've noticed).
The people who are having problems with task killer are the ones that are not setting it up correctly or don't have enough apps installed for it to make any difference.
If you don't setup the ignore list correctly your phone will freak out or make your existing problem worse.
Android 2.2 is a different story though, Froyo is faster without a taskiller
Buddy here's what .....
Download AutoKiller from the market , then go to the dev's webpage ,there he has a lot of information about android and memory management .... then you can make an informed decision .... the lag issue you continue to have .,.,..., you might have to do a hard reset to clear the system of that poorly coded task/app killer ....
Here's some more information http://androidforums.com/samsung-vibrant/124542-constant-apps-restarting-themselves.html
I hope that here on xda we can help people to understand Android and memory management , so they are not fooled by these task/app killers that work against the system ......
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I still need to use it for those unruly apps but I got so used to it because my old phone would lag with Slacker even in the background and I had to kill it. I've stopped using it and I've stopped having major problems. Just an FYI for those out there that still use one, it's not needed here on a regular basis really.
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I used to have the original my touch 3g, lag central, even on custom roms. Task killer was handy, so I got in the Babbitt if killing tasks. I then got me a nexus, and it seemed to have not needed one, but I still used it out of the Babbitt and being paranoid of my plbattery being wasted with apps on the background and lag lol. Well, I'm now done with them, seriously, no need for task killers. I think on this phone it does more damage then good, most apps need to be running on the background, killing them just lags your phone. Like you'd lose signal, or it would run time and date update again, etc.
Task killers may not be necessary for memory management, but it will help save on battery by killing 3rd party apps that stay running in the background. I use Advanced Task Manager myself, and never get any lag when I run it. The main thing you need to "exclude" if you havnt already, is the TWLauncher(or whatever launcher you're running).
Ok, so i froze few apps through TB to save on battery. (like Buddies now,Wifi sharing, Reading hub, Samsung apps etc.). And then I installed OS monitor from the market to monitor the processes running. To my surprise, I see Buddies now and Samsung apps running at least once every 10-15 seconds. I have uninstalled Buddies now through TB as well. But the process still seems to be running.
Can anybody verify this. ? No wonder I am getting crappy battery life. I am on rooted stock rom.
Is it that i have not frozen some associated apps which is leading to this ?
Cheers
Ashish
Have you rebooted your device?
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You should only freeze those which causes wake from deep sleep. You need to see what apps/processes are running on background with the help of application Better Battery Stats and see under Partial Wakelocks. I, for myself have frozen nothing because I don't have anything which causes any major wakes.
Besides, if you are on KF3 then there shouldn't be any Wifi sharing problem. Also Samsung app also doesn't involve in wake situations.
Regards.
I have pretty much frozen all Samsung bloatware that is ok to freeze and battery life is vastly superior now compared to what it was beforehand, i also froze Maps as i don't use it much and some other apps i don't use much if i need to use them it takes a few seconds to defrost them and there you go.
I am on KF3 and the only battery eating thing has been:
"Software Update Service (com.wssyncmldm)"
So I froze it and presto twice the battery life of what I had before.
I sometimes use MAPS with Lattitude. But when I am done I explicitly log out of lattitude, or out goes the power.... as it will keep running in the background.
BTW I use the FREE Anttek App manager to freeze stuf, works great!
-David
Thanks linux monkey, rebooting solved the issue, didnot know you need to reboot after freezing for it to take effect.
Cheers
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I was just wondering why is it a good idea to root ?
What do you guys do once you have rooted your phones ?
some people likes their phones as they are.
some people likes to make some changes to their phones, as fonts, battery indicator, delete some idle apps, make device a little bit faster and comfortable for everyday using
I do understand hacking phones, I even used to cook roms back in the day of the omnia 2 but I'm just wondering because I'm new to android, why or should we root the new ones ie, 2.3.3 2.3.4 and what benefits we can gain from it if we don't flash custom roms ?
Oh and I have just re rooted my neo by the way
The biggest benefit is most likely the ability to use Titanium Backup if you're not interested in all the tweaks and custom roms and themes.
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The biggest benefit is most likely the ability to use Titatanium Backup if you're not interested in all the tweaks and custom roms and themes.
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Ah thanks, is the free titanium on the market any good ?
The Pro version has far more features but yeah the Free version is good enough for a basic backup.
I personally rooted my phone so I can tweak it. I like using the V6 supercharger to alter minfrees and fix OOM-groupings. I also like playing Tegra games with Chainfire3D. My ROM is currently the SE TWEAKEDv0.5 and my Kernel is DooMLorD's (the new one by inteks) i'm on 283 because I don't like updating for no reason... oh and WifiKill (it requires root )
There's also a tool called ROM toolbox. SassiBoB reviewed it. It is quite similar to TB, but the free version offers more features.
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Ah sweet guys thanks I'll look into these.
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I was just wondering why is it a good idea to root ?
What do you guys do once you have rooted your phones ?
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Rooted apps I use:
Titanium Backup: backs up ANY app and app data, even system apps, and more importantly has the power to UNINSTALL ANY APP, even system apps.
EzBoot: reboot your phone quickly (turning it off, waiting and then turning it back on is so dumbphone-like).
Root Explorer: can access hidden system data files in internal memory.
Chainfire 3D: it's supposed to trick hi-end games into thinking your phone has a Tegra chip or simply downscales textures to improve performance, but I admit I'm yet to see a game that needs this.
Script Manager: needed to Supercharge your phone (just did that, I'm not sure if this actually improves performance.
Font Installer: yeah, I changed all fonts on my phone. And yeah, it's pretty useless.
AdFree: promises to block ads on the phone. I was led to believe this is supposed to block ads on all apps, but I notice it doesn't work on some annoying apps with very intrusive ads. It does work on most web pages when browsing the internet though.
FasterFix: it's supposed to get faster locks on GPS satellites. I'm yet to test it properly.
Before I rooted, the only thing I ever wanted with rooting the Xperia neo was definitely Titanium Backup (I can't stand the sight of demos of Let's Golf and Nova HD eating up space from my internal memory). Now I can count 8 rooted apps here. The thing is, phones should all come rooted, period. The user should be able to choose to give away root access on an app-by-app basis.
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Rooted apps I use:
Titanium Backup: backs up ANY app and app data, even system apps, and more importantly has the power to UNINSTALL ANY APP, even system apps.
EzBoot: reboot your phone quickly (turning it off, waiting and then turning it back on is so dumbphone-like).
Root Explorer: can access hidden system data files in internal memory.
Chainfire 3D: it's supposed to trick hi-end games into thinking your phone has a Tegra chip or simply downscales textures to improve performance, but I admit I'm yet to see a game that needs this.
Script Manager: needed to Supercharge your phone (just did that, I'm not sure if this actually improves performance.
Font Installer: yeah, I changed all fonts on my phone. And yeah, it's pretty useless.
AdFree: promises to block ads on the phone. I was led to believe this is supposed to block ads on all apps, but I notice it doesn't work on some annoying apps with very intrusive ads. It does work on most web pages when browsing the internet though.
FasterFix: it's supposed to get faster locks on GPS satellites. I'm yet to test it properly.
Before I rooted, the only thing I ever wanted with rooting the Xperia neo was definitely Titanium Backup (I can't stand the sight of demos of Let's Golf and Nova HD eating up space from my internal memory). Now I can count 8 rooted apps here. The thing is, phones should all come rooted, period. The user should be able to choose to give away root access on an app-by-app basis.
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Thanks I'll have a look at these ones
I'll mention the most basic and useful thing you can do to a rooted Neo-uninstall all the bloatware that comes with the latest Neo firmware and free RAM. Those useless apps constantly occupy around 30mb of RAM and decrease performance. I for example don't want that intrusive Facebook app spread throughout the entire system running constantly.That,Titanium Backup and Ad Free are the major reasons to root for me.
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I'll mention the most basic and useful thing you can do to a rooted Neo-uninstall all the bloatware that comes with the latest Neo firmware and free RAM. Those useless apps constantly occupy around 30mb of RAM and decrease performance. I for example don't want that intrusive Facebook app spread throughout the entire system running constantly.That,Titanium Backup and Ad Free are the major reasons to root for me.
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Yeah, besides freeing RAM, it also frees my blood pressure. I can't stand the sight of demos of "Let's Golf" and "Nova" stuck in my phone.
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I'll mention the most basic and useful thing you can do to a rooted Neo-uninstall all the bloatware that comes with the latest Neo firmware and free RAM. Those useless apps constantly occupy around 30mb of RAM and decrease performance.
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I guess +100Mb is no problem to after cleaning
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I'm just curious: can built-in bloatware-esque apps be frozen, disabled, or uninstalled in Motorola's ICS build as they can on the VZW Galaxy Nexus? I'm talking about for normal users, without root.
Just wondering whether the immediate future of Motorola/VZW phones will be a bit bloat less bloated for normal (non-hacker) users.
Yes and no. The soak test is great but has a few very small bugs.
Yes you can disable almost any app installed. Its great...but of you go into manage apps/ all and try to manually disable it will not let you disable many. A workaround is to grab the app from the app drawer, drag to the top of the home screen to" app info" and it will let you disable as many as you want. I think o disabled 25 apps. The only problem is 3 apps reenable themselves after a reboot. Google+, play movies, and something else. Slight bug. Not major. I kept root and you can use titanium to really freeze if you want
You'll probably need root to fully rid you're self of the apps, they reside in /system/app in the root file system which auto installs at boot, where as downloaded apps and updates reside in /data/apps, you may be able to regain a small amount of space by un installing updates, and possibly keep them from loading in memory, but i doubt anything will last through a reboot
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I have not explored this and am wondering if I did this, would I notice any performance increase? My tablet isn't sluggish by any means despite Sense being what it is.
Is this something worth looking into? And more importantly, if it is, what exactly is worth freezing on the Jetstream? OR how do I go about just deleting these apps without crashing my device? I usually rely on ROMs from Devs to do these things, but being rooted, we have the ability to delete and freeze the Apps, yea?
Apps I have in mind for freezing/deleting are:
Gameloft, ATT branded bloatware, HTC Likes, HTC Hub, Featured Apps, Kid Mode, Lets Golf, Need for Speed, HTC Watch (is a hog, for some reason), Snapbooth, Teeter, YPMobile, and zinio.
Thanks guys. Hopefully this helps others as well.
i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
interesting. I don't use g+. I will just uninstall it.
How about freezing or removing sys apps?
i froze them using titanium. no issues caused so far..
about system apps - i'm running diablo v1.2 so alot was removed already..and according to the widget non of them pop up..
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i just recently installed go launcher, trying to get the device running smoother. the launcher itself isn't quicker, but he does have some pros.
one of them is the task manager widget that shows you which apps are running in the background.
i found out that google+, htc people, and some other apps are starting spontaneously, without me ever using them.
so try installing a task manager widget, and follow your background processes
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I noticed something similar. I use an app called Rom Toolbox. It displays all the processes that start up with system boot. Many such as facebook, google + and a host of other things, I do not use regularly. So i just disabled the auto-start of those services using ROM Toolbox and it doesn't autorun now. Don't know how effective it is, but when I do check the running apps section under manage applications in settings, I do not see the unnecessary apps running and the memory freed up is more as compared to prior disabling. However I haven't noticed much of a difference in my daily usage of the rom hence don't know how effective it is.
I also use Quick System Information Pro. It has a task clearer widget which I find extremely useful and effective. Whenever I feel that my tab is working a bit slow, I just press on the widget icon and it clears up in the range of 200-300 MB of ram thereby preventing slow down of the tab. It does work with non-Sense launchers as well such as Go Launcher HD.
Using Titanium I uninstalled a lot of the bloatware and froze Sense. Cleared the cache and dalvik using CMW, and things have been working fine up to now. Performance-wise, no lagging and everything seems to run fine. Only kept Google's stock apps like maps and stuff, even though I don't use them.
Also note that I backed up everything I uninstalled just in case, so everything's dandy. Oh, and I reverted back to the stock kernel a while back (still rooted, though).
Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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Quick question, if I clear the cache manually or dalvik through Titanium, does it do the same thing CMW does? It should work the same way and only need a restart, right?
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Yup!
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i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
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i froze quite alot of HTCs crap on this, and the more i freeze the better it gets.
been working with it for a few weeks and without the sense its more stable.
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I Froze all the AT&T/HTC Bloatware, however I continue to have FREEZING problems with the YouTube (even after uninstalling the Upgrade).
My work around is to use the YouTube on the stock Browser.
Hope a Permanent FIX for the YouTube app comes sooner than later