Question for ICS leak users: can bloat be uninstalled/frozen? - Motorola Droid RAZR

I'm just curious: can built-in bloatware-esque apps be frozen, disabled, or uninstalled in Motorola's ICS build as they can on the VZW Galaxy Nexus? I'm talking about for normal users, without root.
Just wondering whether the immediate future of Motorola/VZW phones will be a bit bloat less bloated for normal (non-hacker) users.

Yes and no. The soak test is great but has a few very small bugs.
Yes you can disable almost any app installed. Its great...but of you go into manage apps/ all and try to manually disable it will not let you disable many. A workaround is to grab the app from the app drawer, drag to the top of the home screen to" app info" and it will let you disable as many as you want. I think o disabled 25 apps. The only problem is 3 apps reenable themselves after a reboot. Google+, play movies, and something else. Slight bug. Not major. I kept root and you can use titanium to really freeze if you want

You'll probably need root to fully rid you're self of the apps, they reside in /system/app in the root file system which auto installs at boot, where as downloaded apps and updates reside in /data/apps, you may be able to regain a small amount of space by un installing updates, and possibly keep them from loading in memory, but i doubt anything will last through a reboot
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Bloat Manager

I recently bought a Droid 2 Global and decided to get my feet wet with android development. To familiarize myself with the platform I wrote a simple utility for managing the bloat that came pre-installed on my phone. I thought there might be other people who would get some use out of this so I am posting it here. You will need to be rooted and have busybox installed to use this application. If you used z4root to root your phone then you should have everything you need.
The application is pretty simple. When you start it you are presented with a list of the Bloat that the application recognizes. Each item in the list has a checkbox that indicates whether it is enabled or not. To disable bloat you just uncheck the boxes next to what you don't want and then press the Apply button that appears at the bottom of the screen. You can save what you have disabled as a profile by pressing the options button and then choosing Save Profile. This is convenient because you are going to need to turn all of this bloat back on if you want to receive updates. If you have saved a profile and a new update becomes available you can launch Bloat Manager, press the options button, choose Enable All and then click Apply to get your phone ready for the update. After the update installs you can launch Bloat Manager, press the options button, choose Load Profile and then click Apply to turn the bloat back off.
The following applications can be toggled on or off using Bloat Manager:
Amazon MP3 /system/app/amazonmp3_1_8_14_signed_zipaligned_Signed_2010-09-09_15-23-51.apk
Blockbuster /system/app/Blockbuster.apk
City ID /system/app/CityID.apk
Friend Feed /system/app/FriendFeed.apk
Kindle /system/app/Kindle-1_0_2-OEM-SingleSign_Signed_2010-09-20_17-31-57.apk
My Net /system/app/Mynet.apk
My Verizon /system/app/MyVerizon.apk
News Widget /system/app/NewsWidget.apk
Performance Manager /system/app/PerformanceManager.apk
Skype /system/app/Skype_mobile.live.apk
Social Messaging /system/app/SocialMessaging.apk
Social Share /system/app/SocialShare.apk
VZNavigator /system/app/vnav_6.1.0.160_Droid2Global_rel_PROD_signed.apk
Visual Voice Mail /system/app/Vvm.apk
Weather Widget /system/app/WeatherWidget.apk
World Clock Widget /system/app/WorldClockWidget.apk
When you disable an application using Bloat Manager it simply renames it to .bak. When you re-enable an application it is renamed back to .apk.
Bloat Manager remounts your /system partition as writable in order to make changes to applications. I came up with this list based on what other people have had success with removing, but I have not personally turned off everything on the list. Changing things in your system partition is always dangerous so please be careful.
So this only renames the app filenames? Is the app still affecting the phone in any way (ie. sucking battery life) once it is renamed, or is it completely "disconnected" from the phone until you rename it back to .apk for updates/etc.?
Thanks I will try this out soon.
Correct, this simply renames the apps so that they are no longer recognized as launchable applications. The applications will not be able to run anymore after they are renamed so they will not affect your battery life directly. I have heard that the operating system will continually try and restart some apps if they get renamed, but based on what people are saying in the bloatware removal script thread on droidforums where I got this list of applications none of these should have that problem.
Let me know how it goes.
The application works, any chance you might add more programs to the list?
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Are there any specific applications you would like to see added? I designed it so that the list can be extended but I haven't implemented an easy way to add things yet. If you know your way around a SQLite database you can add new items to the Bloat table to put them in the list. I plan on adding an import feature that lets you add a group of applications from a file in the near future.
Well some programs I can do without are files, car dock, backup assistant, the social networking widget, and news and weather, if you can find a way to ad the .bak extention to them without it hurting the system, it would be greatly appreciated
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wtb one for sprint phones, i.e. the Epic 4G
Great solution, how about a "Bloat Manager for Samsung Galaxy S" next ?
How about a general android bloat manager?
General Android bloatware app would be a major win!
The way you implement (renaming to .bak) is brilliant in it's simplicity, well done. I'm curious how it compares to the 'freeze' function of Titanium backup. Anyone?
^^^That's what I want to know too.
i am just wondering but would this work on other phones like the HTC Droid ERIS or any other devices???
Any chance you can port this to the Droid X? Also, do you need to be rooted to use it, or does it work on stock devices?
same quest
rusty815 said:
...any chance you might add more programs to the list?
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...are these Bloats removeable too?
-Stocks
-Amazon
-Soundhound
-Setup
-facebook
-htc hub, likes etc.
-latitude
-anything from google (maps locations, navigation etc., etc.)
-peep, twitter etc. any social network sh..
-speech saerch
-talk
-connected media
Any chance for a G1 or G2 version?
I plan on making the next version a lot more flexible in terms of which phones it will be useful for. If you guys can get me a list of which apps can safely be removed from your phones I can add them to the next version.
Technically this version should run on other phones so long as they are rooted and have busybox installed in /system/bin. If your phone has some of the same bloat that comes on a Droid 2 Global you may be able to use this to remove it. Any applications that the program cannot find when it starts will have a ! on the front of their names in the list. Bloat Manager won't be able to turn those off.
I installed this and chose disable all, and clicked apply. The applications can still be opened. Skype still shows that it is running even after I force stop it.
LOL...installed on my G1....all apps had the !
Uninstalled. Thanks!
MrFrankfromCM said:
LOL...installed on my G1....all apps had the !
Uninstalled. Thanks!
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Lol, its meant for the bloat on the d2g and d2, I'm pretty sure the g1 doesn't have any of the apps that are on the list
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MrFrankfromCM said:
Any chance for a G1 or G2 version?
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If your looking for away to remove bloatware on the G2 go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
super easy did it myself.

how do i uninstall applications?

like widgets? such as "apmobiles", seems to be a newspaper sort of thing i will never read. i also can't uninstall social/music/gaming/book hubs? i'm in the setting/applications/manage applications bit.
i want to basically delete a LOT of apps then only install what I need? i'm new to smartphones, moved from a nokia keypad phone. so the galaxy s2 was a massive jump for me.
Have a search for titanium backup and root. You'll need to root your phone 1st before you can 'freeze' but not remove apps.
The phone is brand new and it will take a while before custom roms that let you remove apps are available.
If I were you I'd wait before rooting as it is still a bit complicated and simpler methods will come along soon, I'm sure. I'd use the time to read the guides and get familiar with the phone.
Bear in mind that rooting/custom roms will lose you your warranty. Also, I'm not too worried about app removal as the phone has plenty of memory for my needs. Just remove the apps you don't want from the home screen and put on the ones that you do.
Edit: just wanted to clarify that I was referring to removing pre - installed apps.
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Thanks for that, it's that I also noticed that there are services running in the background from applications that I'm not using, like I have the apmobile service running and also a social hub service running even neither is open. And I at least want to remove app shortcuts from the menu.
You'll need to root and freeze to remove the shortcut from the app drawer. I really wouldn't do that until you've read up and are confident though.
There are other threads about the social hub, have a search. I think you'll need to reset the phone and then not add any accounts if you want to stop it from being active.
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To add-up about removing the widgets (probably you've found it already though), you only need to hold down the widget and slide it down to an area says remove
this phone comes with a built in task manager and a widget that shows you active tasks, i use the widget on my phone's desktop to close apps as needed ( i know the phone can handle it but its just my own thing lol ) and from there, there's a tab that lets you uninstall apps as well.
ofcourse you wont be able to uninstall those that came with the phone just yet.
I rooted mine which was dead easy and was my first time so you'll be fine. Download AntTek app manager from the market its free and lets you freeze, delete and backup any apps and widgets you want. You will no longer have any of those crap apps working in the background draining your battery. Hope this helps.
Edit: Oh yeah the built in task manager doesn't show system apps working in the background or at least not all so well worth freezing or removing them.

My Quarantined / frozen apps

I downloaded an app called App quarantine from the market and put the following apps in the don't run bin , but before doing that I downloaded Go Launcher / Go Contacts / Go Sms Pro and did a ehh, conversion from the stock samsung apps to Go Stuff. Has anyone else done this or anything similar?
Apk's no longer running on boot
(See screen shots, i'm lazy today.)
jb0nd38372 said:
I downloaded an app called App quarantine from the market and put the following apps in the don't run bin , but before doing that I downloaded Go Launcher / Go Contacts / Go Sms Pro and did a ehh, conversion from the stock samsung apps to Go Stuff. Has anyone else done this or anything similar?
Apk's no longer running on boot
(See screen shots, i'm lazy today.)
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There are a number of apps that do the same type of thing, Titanium Backup will 'freeze' apps as well as a whole host of additional features.
Then of course, another option is to just rename the apps from *.apk to *.bpk and rebooting.
My personal preference is a third option called Autostarts which is similar to MSconfig in Windows but for Android. The reason being is, it gives you the ability to keep an app from ever running unless you actually tap the app to run it but still allows you to keep the app installed in the event you want to use it. Google Maps comes to mind, I want it installed, I dont want it running in the background.
I dont recommend removing any of the bloatware if you plan on staying on stock but, some of it for US Note users was able to be uninstalled without root via either Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All Applications, then tap an app and see if uninstall was lit up, if so, sweet. Or, alternatively you could go thru the Market->(Menu Key)->My Apps but not all apps show up in this list. As a side note, I actually manually did a search for many of the apps on the phone and manually updated them because they were not showing up in the market 'My Apps' list.
One other side note, most of the Samsung apps are actually pretty decent, I usually dont touch them. Its the ATT software and the apps ATT took bribe money from third parties that bothers me (Yellow Pages for example).
Oh, and a little known feature of Go Launcher is the ability to hide apps.
Tap the App drawer icon to get to the list of apps on your phone, tap the menu button, tap hide apps. For those of us that havent bothered to root, this at least gives you the ability to not have to look at apps you dont want to see in the app drawer.
Wow thank you for all the info. As far as staying stock, I like making my devices unique to me, I did keep all spen related apps, but killed pretty much everything else. I doubt my phone will ever see an official release of anything, Xda all the way
littlewierdo said:
There are a number of apps that do the same type of thing, Titanium Backup will 'freeze' apps as well as a whole host of additional features.
Then of course, another option is to just rename the apps from *.apk to *.bpk and rebooting.
My personal preference is a third option called Autostarts which is similar to MSconfig in Windows but for Android. The reason being is, it gives you the ability to keep an app from ever running unless you actually tap the app to run it but still allows you to keep the app installed in the event you want to use it. Google Maps comes to mind, I want it installed, I dont want it running in the background.
I dont recommend removing any of the bloatware if you plan on staying on stock but, some of it for US Note users was able to be uninstalled without root via either Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All Applications, then tap an app and see if uninstall was lit up, if so, sweet. Or, alternatively you could go thru the Market->(Menu Key)->My Apps but not all apps show up in this list. As a side note, I actually manually did a search for many of the apps on the phone and manually updated them because they were not showing up in the market 'My Apps' list.
One other side note, most of the Samsung apps are actually pretty decent, I usually dont touch them. Its the ATT software and the apps ATT took bribe money from third parties that bothers me (Yellow Pages for example).
Oh, and a little known feature of Go Launcher is the ability to hide apps.
Tap the App drawer icon to get to the list of apps on your phone, tap the menu button, tap hide apps. For those of us that havent bothered to root, this at least gives you the ability to not have to look at apps you dont want to see in the app drawer.
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Just to add I guess a 'fourth' option, I like to use the app 'root toolbox' available on the market with both free and pro versions. Under the advanced menu you can remove any system apps you like but the nice thing is anything you remove is automatically backed up to the root toolbox folder on the internal sd. The backup is done automatically so you dont have to worry about removing something and forgetting to backup first and also gives you the option to restore any system apps you removed simply and easily. Ill be honest the restore feature has saved my bacon many times lol and is also a great way to experiment which apps are safe and unsafe to remove.

System Rom memoery maxxed out

My gf's xt912 on 4.1.2 has been rooted running stock. She just wanted to adblock and be able to bu her data w/TiBu. She been noticing the phone lagging lately. No new apps installed and I ck'd for apps running in bk ground. I did notice via TiBu her system Rom 667 MB (20.1 MB free). Could this be the reason for the lag?
Thanks for the help
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Xmeoff said:
My gf's xt912 on 4.1.2 has been rooted running stock. She just wanted to adblock and be able to bu her data w/TiBu. She been noticing the phone lagging lately. No new apps installed and I ck'd for apps running in bk ground. I did notice via TiBu her system Rom 667 MB (20.1 MB free). Could this be the reason for the lag?
Thanks for the help
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Have you checked to see how many apps she has running at startup? My girlfriend had the same problem on her droid4, lagging and battery wasn't the best. When she had me checked it out she had 30 or 40 apps/games she had downloaded once to chekc out, then never touched them again, and most of them were running at startup in the background. In other words apps she didn't care about were always on, draining her battery and bogging down her processor
Hope this helps
She does have a couple of apps she rarely uses. I didn't ck for any that start up, just running in the bk ground constantly. Where do I check for start up apps?
Thanks
Xmeoff said:
She does have a couple of apps she rarely uses. I didn't ck for any that start up, just running in the bk ground constantly. Where do I check for start up apps?
Thanks
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Go to apps in the setting then check currently running apps. this will show all the apps that are currently running on the phone, and you will notice there are apps on there that were not started up but ARE running in the background. you will have to use common sense in determining what apps you feel should be running and shouldn't.
A app that I like to use is addons detector. this app scans all the permissions of games and apps in your phone and allows you to check out what apps are requesting what permissions on a per permission basis. It will also list apps bsed on what type of mobile ad company an app is using (admob, google etc.) some are more intrusive than others or allow malware.
Having tiBu, if there are particular apps she doesn't use much, but does like them being handy when she does decide to use them, and they having intrusive permsissions (start at boot, start, when screen is unlocked etc, etc.) She can freeze them with TiBu.
She can also check out greenify, which does a pretty good job at hibernating apps that aren't in use to they point they are almost frozen, but cuts out a couple of steps.
Another app you could check out is SDmaid, this could help you in finding cached data in apps and system, that might be bogging the processor down.

Process of disabling bloatware

I have this phone and planning to freeze bloatware to begin with. Problem I'm getting is I don't really know which ones to freeze and which ones I shouldn't
I have TitaniumBackup. It doesn't highlight any of the 'critical' system apps which could rekh the phone. Only one I know I shouldn't disable is the "TouchWiz". There are bunch of 'applications' names in the 'system apps'. some are listed without an icon and just like "com.xxxxxx.xxxx". I don't know if these are safe to disable or not.
Anyone know an app which highlights the critical ones? I don't want to disable like the GSM or Display of the phone via Titanium Backup
Will be following this thread to remove data from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828541
I'm on stock ROM because I value high battery life and camera performance over gaming performance etc.
Regards
Be careful what you disable as most apps on tw devices are reliant on each other.
I disabled a load of them and nearly borked my phone. After a while it got slower and slower.
Hangouts and chaton plug into the system messager, they can be disabled. Apps that plug in to system apps can be disabled safely without fear of killing it just dont disable actual system stuff. Eg Disabling google play services will save you battery but will cause issues with apps and games. You will be disabling very little on tw devices!.
As for camera. The stock app is sh** so use a 3rd party app. Dont disable the stock camera app as system needs it for diagnostics should you ever need to test your device using the factory test app (mmi code).
Basically, go slowly starting with apps that you never use. Disable instead of delete as if you have issues you can restore easily.
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