[Q] Prime sees every network except mine... - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Hi guys,
I've lurked here ever since I got my Desire HD 18 months ago and this is the first time I haven't been able to find a solution to a problem.
I received my Prime today with no flaws, it worked great out of the box with the wifi at my mums house so obviously I was pretty happy!
Unfortunately as soon as I arrived home a (relatively minor) problem surfaced; my Prime can see most of the networks around my house except my one! It's a Belkin wireless N router set to N/G/B though when I change it to exclusively G I still get nothing.
If anyone has had this problem and found a fix (or is just better with this than I am and can help anyway!) I would really appreciate the help!
Thanks in advance,
N

If you are not broadcasting your SSID, manually enter it using Add Network.
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I also have a Belkin router... N600. What model do you have?
The Prime does not support 5 Ghz bands. 802.11n is supported but only on 2.4 Ghz band. FYI I as well as other Prime owners have reported more consistent speeds on strict 802.11g.

Thanks for the help guys, I have in fact found the solution after some tinkering. I changed the routers channel and suddenly it popped up! Not a clue why this worked (as I had already tried this previously) but I'm not complaining!

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Wi-Fi worse with ICS update? Poll

My Wi-Fi is really bad since the ICS update. Is anyone else having the same issue?
My wifi is pretty good, better reception than my Android phone.
Mine seems the same as before which is just fine. It does better than my Droid charge for sure.
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Wifi was great before ICS and is still great afterwards. Better reception than my T-bolt.
I can be outside in the yard on the opposite side of my house from the router and still get 3 bars and great speeds. I guess I just got lucky.
Mine is the same as before, too. Can't really complain.
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I've been holding off on the Prime due too all the talk about bad wifi speeds and range. Are you guys saying that it is actually not an issue? I don't care about the GPS that much, even though it has been horribly handled by Asus. But wifi is a "make it or break it" part of the product for me. Is it worse than the TF101? I have seen a lot of posts that it is worse, but you guys say that it is really good.
In doubt...
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Not an issue on mine. I have conducted tests against my laptop/tf101/ipad1...my prime is right in the mix.
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No real improvements here. Just about the same. I'm going to change my router's 2.4 Ghz band back to combined b/g/n as opposed to isolated g (which helped my Prime a LOT) to test out if ICS truly helped at all.
I'm on ICS and just switched to g only from a/b/g/n, and my speed greatly improved, so it doesn't seem that ICS made a difference in that regard. Wish I knew why using g only helps so much with the speed on the Prime. I'm in an apartment complex with many signals, and I'm wondering if that had anything to do with it.
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I'm finding that I get an extra bar indicated, but I don't think it's really any better or worse with ICS.
My experience has been a bit odd with it. As far as the signal indicator goes, my wifi reception SEEMS worse than on Honeycomb. However, I haven't lost signal at all and my speeds are great.
Overall, I'd say it's about the same, but the indicator seems to fluctuate much easier.
Same as before (which is still weak), but it is still not as good as any of my laptops, Skyrocket, Blackberry, or iPhone.
I'm actually getting better wifi range to my router.
nyijedi said:
I'm on ICS and just switched to g only from a/b/g/n, and my speed greatly improved, so it doesn't seem that ICS made a difference in that regard. Wish I knew why using g only helps so much with the speed on the Prime. I'm in an apartment complex with many signals, and I'm wondering if that had anything to do with it.
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Same here, I live in an apartment and there are a lot of WiFi networks in close proximity.
What kind of router do you have? I have a dual band Belkin n600.
BUYMECAR said:
Same here, I live in an apartment and there are a lot of WiFi networks in close proximity.
What kind of router do you have? I have a dual band Belkin n600.
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Interesting. I'm going to do some research into whether being near so many other wireless signals may have something to do with g only performing better than a/b/g/n when I get a chance. Then again, devices like my laptop and iPad1 pull the same speed regardless of whether my router is set to g only or a/b/g/n...ugh.
I'm using a D-Link DIR-655, which is not a dual band router.
diecast17 said:
My Wi-Fi is really bad since the ICS update. Is anyone else having the same issue?
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Mine is by far worse!
I barely even have a chance to tell before my Prime reboots. But it shows it as having a poor signal even when I'm right next to it and it never actually connects. Just says obtaining IP address.
With honeycomb my phone (evo 3d) would get more reception, it could see networks the prime wouldn't. Since the update my prime not only sees all the networks its getting great speeds even on the weak ones.
Same after ICS, which is good.
It's about the same for me. But I had some issues with rebooting at first, but now it is better.
TheNostaw said:
Mine is by far worse!
I barely even have a chance to tell before my Prime reboots. But it shows it as having a poor signal even when I'm right next to it and it never actually connects. Just says obtaining IP address.
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Go into the WiFi settings, "forget" the network, and then reconnect. I had a similar issue after the ICS update on my home network and this fixed it for me.
Also, people shouldn't rely on the number of bars the WiFi indicator in the bottom right has. I've found this to be very inaccurate, and almost useless. I've had no bars or one bar and pulled in speeds just as good as when I had 2 or 3 bars. Instead of basing your assumptions on this, use the speedtest.net app and the wifi analyzer app.

Reason for WiFi Disparity Between Different Users

I don't have a solution, but I think I know what a pretty big contributing factor is towards some people saying WiFi is on par with other devices, and others saying it is not.
I've seen this mentioned in another WiFi thread by another user, but hasn't really gotten much attention, so I figured it deserved its own thread so people see it.
It appears that for some reason, the Prime does not like wireless N networks unless it is extremely close to the router. For example, when using wireless N, my Prime will pull over 30 Mbps when within 5 feet of my router. However, as soon as I start walking away, the Prime drops in speed at an embarrassingly bad rate. It goes from about 30 Mbps down to 3 Mbps down at about 20 feet away from my router. My other devices (Galaxy Nexus, iPad1, laptop) do not exhibit this behavior.
However, if you're using a wireless G network instead, the dropoff isn't nearly as significant. For example, when using wireless G, I'll pull about 19 Mbps when directly near the router, and still get about 9-13 Mbps when 20 feet away from the router, which is somewhat on par with my other devices.
My conclusions:
1) The Prime does not work well with wireless N networks
2) People who see speeds consistent with their other devices when not near their routers likely do not have a wireless N router (or have wireless N disabled).
Does anyone have any opinion on whether this may be software related?
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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Have you tried switching to G only mode to see if the Prime performs better? I know it may not be a permanent or acceptable solution, but that's what I'm doing for the time being, as I live in a relatively small apartment and don't need the increased range of wireless N.
The fact that the Prime can pull decent speeds at a decent range while on wireless G only has me hopeful that it is not hardware related, and can indeed be fixed (e.g., improved) with firmware.
nyijedi said:
Have you tried switching to G only mode to see if the Prime performs better? I know it may not be a permanent or acceptable solution, but that's what I'm doing for the time being, as I live in a relatively small apartment and don't need the increased range of wireless N.
The fact that the Prime can pull decent speeds at a decent range while on wireless G only has me hopeful that it is not hardware related, and can indeed be fixed (e.g., improved) with firmware.
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I only have N here, all other devices work good apart from the Prime.
I tried using WiFi Analyzer to see which channel was best being 11 as my router was set to auto but that made no difference on the Prime.
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ToneyEricsson said:
I only have N here, all other devices work good apart from the Prime.
I tried using WiFi Analyzer to see which channel was best being 11 as my router was set to auto but that made no difference on the Prime.
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If you want to try it out, most, if not all N routers allow you to disable N and only transmit on a, b, or g. That's what I did on my N router. I changed transmission from 802.11a/b/g/n to 802.11g only.
I concur that all other devices work great on N except for the Prime, which is annoying.
I have AT&T Uverse and there wireless router is b/g only. I get download speeds of 12mbps in my plan. I was getting 11.3 to 11.5 on my OG IPad and my TFP oh and my motorola Atrix at any place in my house or my decks. Same ranges. My router is in the middle of my home so I'm probably no more than 50-75 feet from it.
So, I feel there could be credibility to what the OP says based on my setup.
Thanks a lot for this post. My router is only G and B but I decided to test this myself so I changed my router from Mixed to G-only and it increased my speeds by over 3MB/s (5MB/s to 8.1MB/s) when downstairs in my living room. I thought my previous tests were strange when it would sometimes spike up to 8MB/s but finish on 5MB/s everytime.
Anyway, very useful post which could help many on here. Maybe this could be fixed in a firmware update or do you reckon the Wi-Fi recievers in the Prime are designed that way?
My Wirless N router works fine with the Prime at both short and long distances.
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My Wirless N router works fine with the Prime at both short and long distances.
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I agree mine work fine also, i have a cape cod style house and my N router is in my basement I get 2 bars of strength in the "attic" part of my house, running about 12-13mps. Even when i run Wifi Analyzer on both my Galaxy Nexus and my Prime they are both very much the same DB.
I've got to say I think the Wi-Fi issues are software, not hardware. Using Wi-Fi analyzer, with my thunderbolt and prime in same location they have the same signal strength, but the thunderbolt is much faster downloading. I don't think the back is the problem with the prime WiFi, and they should be able to fix it with a firmware update.
Someone else also suggested that you can get better/higher wifi speeds with a lower channel. People have tried switching to channels 1 and 3. Maybe while trying ONLY 802.11g, try also using N at lower channels.
Lower channels = lower frequency = higher energy, which may be better able to get through the aluminum back and improve speeds?
nyijedi said:
I don't have a solution, but I think I know what a pretty big contributing factor is towards some people saying WiFi is on par with other devices, and others saying it is not.
I've seen this mentioned in another WiFi thread by another user, but hasn't really gotten much attention, so I figured it deserved its own thread so people see it.
It appears that for some reason, the Prime does not like wireless N networks unless it is extremely close to the router. For example, when using wireless N, my Prime will pull over 30 Mbps when within 5 feet of my router. However, as soon as I start walking away, the Prime drops in speed at an embarrassingly bad rate. It goes from about 30 Mbps down to 3 Mbps down at about 20 feet away from my router. My other devices (Galaxy Nexus, iPad1, laptop) do not exhibit this behavior.
However, if you're using a wireless G network instead, the dropoff isn't nearly as significant. For example, when using wireless G, I'll pull about 19 Mbps when directly near the router, and still get about 9-13 Mbps when 20 feet away from the router, which is somewhat on par with my other devices.
My conclusions:
1) The Prime does not work well with wireless N networks
2) People who see speeds consistent with their other devices when not near their routers likely do not have a wireless N router (or have wireless N disabled).
Does anyone have any opinion on whether this may be software related?
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1. What channel are you using on the N band? Also, what router and firmware?
As for testing at this point I am pulling 36Mbps on N at 15 feet and 34Mbps on G (on a Netgear WNDR4500 or ASUS RT-N56U). We will look into this behavior shortly.
Many wifi problems stem from suboptimal router configuration. Mixed-mode use (as opposed to G-only or N-only) can also cause speed degradation.
Suggest some simple steps to troubleshoot slow wifi speed:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30664-5-ways-to-fix-slow-80211n-speed
Alternately, you can try a different router or access point, either as replacement or in tandem with the existing unit.
Great idea making this thread as I was going to make similar one but never got around to after fiasco in other thread..lmfao.
There was this guy that posted he was going to return his Prime because his wifi wasn't acting right and he was slow downloads speeds and big dropoffs n such. I told him the exact same things you posted here. Be came back n thanked me n said That did the trick. Now his wifi is working great and is on par with his other devices. So now he is keeping his Prime.
Ill bet you that majority of people experiencing wifi issues are because of the reasons stated in this post. A simple network settings change can can make a night n day difference in wireless performance.
This thread should be stickied also or merged with other one then stickied. This will help alot of people out having wifi issues. And its such a simple n fast fix also.
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nhshah7 said:
Someone else also suggested that you can get better/higher wifi speeds with a lower channel. People have tried switching to channels 1 and 3. Maybe while trying ONLY 802.11g, try also using N at lower channels.
Lower channels = lower frequency = higher energy, which may be better able to get through the aluminum back and improve speeds?
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this was said to be true also. I saw that thread that had same info in it.
Gary Key said:
1. What channel are you using on the N band? Also, what router and firmware?
As for testing at this point I am pulling 36Mbps on N at 15 feet and 34Mbps on G (on a Netgear WNDR4500 or ASUS RT-N56U). We will look into this behavior shortly.
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Gary,
Thank you very much for looking into this. I ran some additional tests so I could supply you with some (hopefully) helpful information.
The following tests were performed all using channel 1 on my router. Note that I do see faster speeds on my Prime on channel 1 with both G and N transmissions. The router is a D-Link DIR-655 with firmware version 1.35NA.
The WiFi version of my Prime is V6.1.1.17.
To get accurate speed results, I transferred a large file locally from my PC to my Prime and my Galaxy Nexus. I let each transfer go for a few minutes and noted the highest speed. Below are my results:
Wireless N Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 28.1 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 29.84 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 20.48 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 6.68 Mbps
Wireless G Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 17.8 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 22.04 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 14.4 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 10.32 Mbps
Two important things I noticed from these tests:
1) The Prime actually downloads faster than my Galaxy Nexus when right next to the router, but consistently downloads slower when further from the router.
2) Although the Prime drops off more than my Nexus at a distance of 25 feet from the router, it is at least in the same ballpark when the router is set to G only. However, when the router is set to N only, as you can see from the results, it's not even close.
Again, thank you very much for looking into this for all of us.
I have a b and g router. changed it to g-only and tried changing the channel from 11 to 1 and 3. None of it helped. I use a Netgear WGT624 v3 router with firmware V2.0.10_1.0.1NA
I get a single strength reading between 3 and 4 bars mostly when sitting next to the router but when stepping away it drops to the 1 dot signal strength or none at all. I don't understand what happened in my case because up until yesterday I was getting excellent wi-fi performance no matter where I was in my house. I had my Prime for a week and it was working perfectly. Then yesterday the wi-fi strength just died out. I have requested a refund from Office Depot's website for it but I would love to be able to cancel the refund request and keep the Prime if I felt sure that this issue could get resolved. Office Depot will be picking my tablet up on the 19th. I'll keep an eye on the forums between now and then to see if anything changes or any other ideas pop up for things to try on my end.
Actually did some tests myself today, comparing between the TF101, TF201 and the SGS2... All tests are done with wifi-analyzer and speedtest.
Linksys E2000 router, wifi g-only at channel 1
Close to router (bout 2.5m):
SGS2: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF101: ~-40dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF201: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mpbs
Farther away, same room still (bout 8.5m)
SGS2: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF101: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF201: ~-50dBm, ~13.5mpbs
Kitchen (bout 11, wall and closes in between)
SGS2: ~-70dBm, ~7.5mbps
TF101: ~-65dBm, ~10mbps
TF201: ~-67dBm, ~5mpbs
Other room (about 6m, 2 walls in between)
SGS2: ~-65dBm, ~6mbps
TF101: ~-65dBm, ~10mbps
TF201: ~-70dBm, ~7mpbs
The signal is not that different actually, but speeds can be... THe problem is that within a number of runs in speedtest the changes can be pretty huge. Ranging from 2mbps to 10 mbps... No clue if it's my connection itself (got a 20mbit connection) or the router.
Also have another wifi router so might give that one a try too later...
nyijedi said:
Gary,
Thank you very much for looking into this. I ran some additional tests so I could supply you with some (hopefully) helpful information.
The following tests were performed all using channel 1 on my router. Note that I do see faster speeds on my Prime on channel 1 with both G and N transmissions. The router is a D-Link DIR-655 with firmware version 1.35NA.
The WiFi version of my Prime is V6.1.1.17.
To get accurate speed results, I transferred a large file locally from my PC to my Prime and my Galaxy Nexus. I let each transfer go for a few minutes and noted the highest speed. Below are my results:
Wireless N Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 28.1 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 29.84 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 20.48 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 6.68 Mbps
Wireless G Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 17.8 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 22.04 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 14.4 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 10.32 Mbps
Two important things I noticed from these tests:
1) The Prime actually downloads faster than my Galaxy Nexus when right next to the router, but consistently downloads slower when further from the router.
2) Although the Prime drops off more than my Nexus at a distance of 25 feet from the router, it is at least in the same ballpark when the router is set to G only. However, when the router is set to N only, as you can see from the results, it's not even close.
Again, thank you very much for looking into this for all of us.
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This is almost exactly the behavior i see. In my case it is even a little more extreme, as i actually get occasional wifi crashes (the wifi icon on the prime disappears, then reappears and reconnects after a few seconds) with my router set to GN or N only. Sitting next to the router, speeds on N only are very erratic, ranging from 6-12 Mbps. On G-only, i get a solid 10-12 Mbps.
Overall i find the speeds to be extremely slow. my other devices (G only Droid X included) have no problem handily besting the download speeds at any range.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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part of the issue is, we don't know which chip the azurewave has for wifi.
Because the OS has drivers for both the 4330 and the 4329 installed in system.
check your etc for driver confs.
I one of the few userr who don't have any problems. wireless n does,'t work will on 2.4 even my laptop has pronlem trying to get n speeds they is why i went to 5 mhz to get full n speeds

So far, So Good..Knock on Wood!!

Picked my Prime today at BB. It was C1 SN series with No Dead/Bad Pixels and WiFi seems excellent so far but I have only used in my Home.I haven't tested GPS but I really don't need since I have a Stand alone Garmin for my car. It updated to 4.03 correctly and everything seems smooth thus far. Since I have Android phone I have been able to place purchased Apps to Prime simply and I can get around pretty well. I have Purchased Titanium Backup and Root Explorer from phone but I haven't Rooted Prime just yet so I haven't added these Apps yet to my Prime. I assume it easy to "unroot" the Prime if I do need to return to BB but I may wait a day or 2 for Rooting just in case.
Test out your wifi speeds from the farthest point from your router in your house that you might use the device and see if speeds slow down tremendously. I got mine yesterday from best buy as well, c1 serial and my wifi works great at close range but I can't even use the internet from my bedroom which is at the most 30 feet away.
RonH54 said:
Picked my Prime today at BB. It was C1 SN series with No Dead/Bad Pixels and WiFi seems excellent so far but I have only used in my Home.I haven't tested GPS but I really don't need since I have a Stand alone Garmin for my car. It updated to 4.03 correctly and everything seems smooth thus far. Since I have Android phone I have been able to place purchased Apps to Prime simply and I can get around pretty well. I have Purchased Titanium Backup and Root Explorer from phone but I haven't Rooted Prime just yet so I haven't added these Apps yet to my Prime. I assume it easy to "unroot" the Prime if I do need to return to BB but I may wait a day or 2 for Rooting just in case.
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Nice. Glad BB's are starting to stock in store. Hopefully Asus will fix alot of issues. Curious how they will. Test out GPS for us. Use GPS test from market and see what the C1 can do. Get Speedtest from market and WIFI analyzer. Check out your kbps 10 feet from router. Then move out to 30 feet from router. Let us know the results!
Enjoy your wonderful device. Glad to hear things are going well.
There are certainly real Prime issues. Having one that does what you need it to do makes you sigh in relief!
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OK here is what I have found so far with SpeedTest. I have AT&T 6.0 Mbps DSL Download service when am in I my Living Room area which is about about 10 ft from Router my Speed is around 5.4Mbps. When I go to Bedroom which is about 40-50ft from Router I get about 700-800kbps. These are about the same results I get with my Samsung Galaxy I Cellphone. With my wife's iphone I get around 5.0 Mbps in both my Living Room and Bedroom so the Prime Wifi is the same as my Android phone and the iphone Wifi kicks butt on reception from a distance on both my phone and my Prime.
added note: I find it interesting that with WiFi Analyzer it Shows "Excellent" as strength in both my Living Room and Bedroom but if you look at Mbps in both rooms that even with "excellent" it only shows 11Mbps in bedroom while it shows 54 in Living Room.
update: It just hit me why my Samsung Galaxy I and Prime have the same resulting WiFi weakness the Galaxy phone also has a Metal Back.

VERY interesting article regarding WiFi and Lynksys Routers

I asked Skygunner why he though that 9 separate Primes had WiFI issues and if he thought that the common link MIGHT be his E4200 Cisco/Linksys Router.
Since he had already abandoned the Prime, selling his FREE Prime and Keyboard that Asus sent him, I guess we will never know, but his last comment to me was "There is NO WAY that this is about the E4200. ALL my other devices work with it perfectly. Okay. Fair enough, but 9 Primes, ALL failing to get decent WiFi indicates otherwise. There is just no way that those numbers make any sense whatsoever.
Here is something that may explain it. Interesting, in any case. This article came out on Decrypted Tech's Site, here are two key paragraphs. Link follows:
"Although we are not 100% certain of the issue it does seem to be more about compatibility than an actual hardware or software problem. We took a look at the issue and it seems that the largest percentage of problems appear to be with Linksys wireless routers. This is not to say that there is an issue with Linksys, but it is more of a compatibility issue with the wireless controller and the way they implement their wireless handshake. We tested our TF101 with TRENDNet, D-LINK and also with a TP-Link Access point without any issues at all.
Unfortunately Linksys is a much more common brand due to pricing (and the Cisco logo) than the other three in the US so you are more likely to see this and have it reported. Most owners will also not think that their router (that works with everything else) could be the potential source (or part) of the problem."
Link:
http://www.decryptedtech.com/index....they-are-not-replacing-the-tegra-3&Itemid=138
I too have an E4200 v1, but haven't had any real Wi-Fi issues with either my wife's 32gb or my 64gb. I have an Asus n66u on order so will see if that makes a difference.
Very interesting to say the least. Good find. Will check out the link soon also
Ive used 3 different Primes on multiple different routers (Dlink, Linksys, Netgear all different model #s) the only consistant in everything is that every single Prime hits its WiFi deadspot range sooner then any other WiFi device I own (Laptops (2), cell phone, and a Galaxy 10.1 tablet) this all leads me to with 99% certainty that the biggest problem with the Primes WiFi is simply the aluminum backing not a magic handshake.......Basically the range on the Prime would not work outside in the McDonalds parking lot but if I moved 10 ft closer just outside it would for example we are talking 5-15 maybe 20ft difference in range difference with the Prime in most scenarios.
Lol, can't be a problem with an E4200.
I actually bought one of those (a V1 model) to fix my Prime's weak wifi as it has the best 2.5ghz support you can buy. It boosted my speeds in all areas but it didn't increase the range.
Linksys routers are fine, it's their firmware that stinks. Flash the DD-WRT firmware.
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Linksys routers are fine, it's their firmware that stinks. Flash the DD-WRT firmware.
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You've got that right. For something with the Cisco name on it, their software and support sucks far worse than another company that we know and love.
jdbaker82 said:
Ive used 3 different Primes on multiple different routers (Dlink, Linksys, Netgear all different model #s) the only consistant in everything is that every single Prime hits its WiFi deadspot range sooner then any other WiFi device I own (Laptops (2), cell phone, and a Galaxy 10.1 tablet) this all leads me to with 99% certainty that the biggest problem with the Primes WiFi is simply the aluminum backing not a magic handshake.......
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Then how come my Prime with the exact same aluminum backing has perfectly fine wifi performance? Can't be the backing.
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Then how come my Prime with the exact same aluminum backing has perfectly fine wifi performance? Can't be the backing.
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Because you dont know how to test the wifi deadspot range or you didnt bother to test it. The WiFi in most scenarios will work just fine for most people doesnt mean the range doesnt fall off before other WiFi devices.
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Lol, can't be a problem with an E4200.
I actually bought one of those (a V1 model) to fix my Prime's weak wifi as it has the best 2.5ghz support you can buy. It boosted my speeds in all areas but it didn't increase the range.
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Wrong. The N66U and the 4200v2 blow the V1 away.
jdbaker82 said:
Because you dont know how to test the wifi deadspot range or you didnt bother to test it. The WiFi in most scenarios will work just fine for most people doesnt mean the range doesnt fall off before other WiFi devices.
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haha, nice try.
I tested it fine. Nothing wrong with the aluminium backing.
I've got a Linksys Access Point WAP610N in the doorway between my office and bedroom because reception of the extender often falls away, the extender is one wooden floor down and two foot thick walls away from my rooms.
My notebook and Blackberry have no problem connecting to the AP, my internet radio has problems connecting but once it's connected it's good, my Kindle refuses to connect and my first Prime (waiting for the replacement) rather connected to the extender than the AP, occasionally it did connect but mostly it connected to the far away extender without any problems.
The most annoying thing is that with the latest firmware the AP keeps resetting itself to channel 11 (the busiest channel) every couple of days I have to change it back to channel 4 which is the one with the least interference/other networks on it. I'm now trying to find out what a good replacement AP is but that's harder than I thought.
I've got a Linksys WRT610N router under my desk at work - having just bought my new Prime into work for the first time, it refuses to see it at all.
Disabling 'mixed mode' (802.11B/G/N) for 2.4GHz and setting it down to just B/G and now the prime sees the network and has full strength. Looks like the Prime has issues with Linksys and mixed mode networks - it works fine at home on my mixed mode airport extreme.
wifesabitch said:
Then how come my Prime with the exact same aluminum backing has perfectly fine wifi performance? Can't be the backing.
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Apparently, you have one of the magic one out of one-hundred primes, that performs as advertised, with the exception of GPS, of course !
I asked Skygunner why he though that 9 separate Primes had WiFI issues and if he thought that the common link MIGHT be his E4200 Cisco/Linksys Router.
Since he had already abandoned the Prime, selling his FREE Prime and Keyboard that Asus sent him
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How do I get Asus to send me a FREE Prime and Keyboard that I can sell?
Yeah lets blame it.on everything except the real problem....
Shotty design and poor quality control. Myself and 3 of.my friends all bought primes around Xmas. Wifi sucked on EVERY single one no matter what make, model of access.point was used. Tested.on netgear, dd-wrt firmware routers, REAL Cisco WAPs, trend net ,zyxel, Linksys, and others.
Sent via smoke signal
rdalev said:
Apparently, you have one of the magic one out of one-hundred primes, that performs as advertised, with the exception of GPS, of course !
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Yup, most Primes don't work, need to be lucky to have the magic ones.
Putting it in laymans terms that everyone can understand.....THATS 100% BULL****!
I have an E4200 V1 and it works just fine. My prime works with it, my TF101 worked with it, all other wireless devices work with it. I do know it went through a firmware update but thats about it. I can connect to it with anything but the prime out in the street and get 450Mbps on my N devices.
Bottom line is the prime wifi is flawed regardless of what the reason is. Whether the aluminium back is all of it is anyones guess but its not rocket science that aluminum WILLL attenuate RF signals. My prime works fine at home where I have the E4200 and it pretty much saturates all 3500sqft. It did not work period at a hotel I recently stayed at where my laptop and crackberry had about half signal the prime didnt detect it at all.
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I've got a Linksys WRT610N router under my desk at work - having just bought my new Prime into work for the first time, it refuses to see it at all.
Disabling 'mixed mode' (802.11B/G/N) for 2.4GHz and setting it down to just B/G and now the prime sees the network and has full strength. Looks like the Prime has issues with Linksys and mixed mode networks - it works fine at home on my mixed mode airport extreme.
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How strange. I use the same family of routers in my house and my brother's house, on Mixed (DD-WRT firmware though) and have no issues what-so-ever. After several tests, I actually found that Mixed gives me the most reliable distance and through-put as well, so long as I keep the channels low.
I use a WRT620N (with some D-Link as the Primary, required by our alarm set-up) at my house and WRT610N + WRT150N at my brother's.
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How strange. I use the same family of routers in my house and my brother's house, on Mixed (DD-WRT firmware though) and have no issues what-so-ever. After several tests, I actually found that Mixed gives me the most reliable distance and through-put as well, so long as I keep the channels low.
I use a WRT620N (with some D-Link as the Primary, required by our alarm set-up) at my house and WRT610N + WRT150N at my brother's.
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This is running the stock linksys firmware - technically it's the company's router so I've not got around to installing DD-WRT on it yet...

SM-T825 WIFI 5GHz instable connection

Hi,
I bought the tab last friday. While playing around I noticed that Wifi does an
endless reconnect-loop when using 5 GHz Wifi. 2 GHz works fine..
Could anybody please try? Turn off your router's 2 GHz and use 5 only.
Watch the Wifi nenu in your tab.
Thanks
joe535 said:
Hi,
I bought the tab last friday. While playing around I noticed that Wifi does an
endless reconnect-loop when using 5 GHz Wifi. 2 GHz works fine..
Could anybody please try? Turn off your router's 2 GHz and use 5 only.
Watch the Wifi nenu in your tab.
Thanks
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Tried again yesterday.. Only one reconnect in 10 Minutes.. Seems, that 5G WIFI in general somtimes
makes problems.. So, please can someone close this thread?
joe535 said:
Tried again yesterday.. Only one reconnect in 10 Minutes.. Seems, that 5G WIFI in general somtimes
makes problems.. So, please can someone close this thread?
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My tablet is connected to 5 gigahertz exclusively and has never dropped the connection. You may want to take a look at your router's wifi settings.
I have a brand new Galaxy Tab S3 SM-T820 Wifi version, and I have two wireless routers in my home. One is a RavPower ND007, the other a DLink DIR-813. Both are dual band routers. On both, I have the 2.4 GHz network and 5 GHz networks names differently. Every other device in my home - including a number of Samsung devices - connects to all four networks with no problem.
However, my Galaxy Tab S3 does not. When connecting to the Rav, it shows "Connected, No Internet", and can't communicate at all. It won't even connect to the DIR-813 at all.
It connects flawlessly to the 2.4GHz networks on both routers.
Both of the routers, and the Tab, all have the latest available firmwares/updates.
So it's definitely the Tab S3, and definitely a 5GHz problem.
Not sure how to report this to Samsung, but I'm going to try...
defenitley YES, 5G problem...
wfire said:
I have a brand new Galaxy Tab S3 SM-T820 Wifi version, and I have two wireless routers in my home. One is a RavPower ND007, the other a DLink DIR-813. Both are dual band routers. On both, I have the 2.4 GHz network and 5 GHz networks names differently. Every other device in my home - including a number of Samsung devices - connects to all four networks with no problem.
However, my Galaxy Tab S3 does not. When connecting to the Rav, it shows "Connected, No Internet", and can't communicate at all. It won't even connect to the DIR-813 at all.
It connects flawlessly to the 2.4GHz networks on both routers.
Both of the routers, and the Tab, all have the latest available firmwares/updates.
So it's definitely the Tab S3, and definitely a 5GHz problem.
Not sure how to report this to Samsung, but I'm going to try...
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Last Sunday I forgot to turn off Wifi 5G on my router and used my Tab S3.... Reconnect each 2 seconds... Super Quality, Thanks a lot to Samsung..
And just to clarify - 5G works with the same router and my Phone S8 perfectly, so it is NOT a rouoter issue...
I've been using 5G exclusively as our SSID is 5G specific and never had an issue with WiFi. Solid connection 100% of the time. Netgear Nighthawk X8 here.
aspexil said:
I've been using 5G exclusively as our SSID is 5G specific and never had an issue with WiFi. Solid connection 100% of the time. Netgear Nighthawk X8 here.
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Will try to install the latest update this weekend, without any modifications. If 5G still does not work, I will send the Tab to samsungs repair-center, as it still will be covered by warranty.
Either it is a problem with modem-driver or Hardware..
But nevertheless, this is the very first device showing up this problem with 5G.
If Samsung is not capable to solve, this will be my last product purchased from this brand...
I did send my Tab to Samsung repair center in Germany. Will receive it today, but I already know that they did not find any problem, all fine..
Well - but they did not give me a detailed test-report yet... So I dont know what and how they tested..
Will return the Tab to my local dealer for replacement..
I'd like to test with a different SM-T825...
Reading this I haven't seen that you've tried updating your router's firmware. If you haven't try that too. I'm not sure if when you say "install latest update" if that's the router or the tab.
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Reading this I haven't seen that you've tried updating your router's firmware. If you haven't try that too. I'm not sure if when you say "install latest update" if that's the router or the tab.
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Just by chance I found out, that 5G works if no SIM inserted. And IF SIM is inserted, it MUST be active. In flightmode and then activate WIFI does NOT work..
This is very suspicious... I hope that SOON we will find a working lineage for the galaxy tab S3...
Galaxy Tab S3 SM-T820 Wifi version and dual band 5ghz
Hmm, I just updated my modem as per better speeds from Comcast, but I also need a new router that would take advantage of the bandwidth and the 802.11ac dual band standard so that I can get to the 5ghz band.
I own a Galaxy Tab S3 SM-T820 WiFi and before I get a new router, I want to know if the WiFi adapter in the Tablet would pick up on the 5ghz band with a new router. Is there any type of updates or drivers or am I okay?
Thank you,
Jon
I'm on 5Ghz all the time. No issues.
Great news !!
I asked the question after I learned about the variety with routers and especially since I found out that my laptop's WiFi adapter only supports b,n,g and that I would need to buy a USB WiFI adapter for my laptop or somehow change the adapter chip inside my laptop to take advantage of the 802.11ac dual protocol.
Thank you, Jon
I have the t825 version, unfortunately I have problems with the 5 Ghz connection.
I hope Samsung releases an update to fix the connection problem and to improve the camera
Athawulf said:
I have the t825 version, unfortunately I have problems with the 5 Ghz connection.
I hope Samsung releases an update to fix the connection problem and to improve the camera
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Hi, I have the T835 and I have the same problem. It disconnects 5 ghz, problem since I bought it.
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