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I may be pressing my luck here but anyone found a snap on plastic case for the G-tablet? Or know a place where I can have one custom made?
I'm assuming your looking for a shell type case? Me too
I would imagine it may be some time before we see something like that. With all the tabs coming out, manufacturers will be picking the big ticket items and making them for those. Until viewsonic fixes issues and makes this thing hot outta the box, we're still gonna be little fish in the big pond.
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any luck finding something here? i am also looking for a skin case.
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any luck finding something here? i am also looking for a skin case.
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I will find some manufacturers to make one out.
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I will find some manufacturers to make one out.
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Xjarl, I would be more interested in a protective wrap around silicone case. I will buy one the second they are available.
I just found these protective case online.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...GEL-shell-case-special-design-100pcs-lot.html
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I just found these protective case online.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...GEL-shell-case-special-design-100pcs-lot.html
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I did get word that here are in the process of being made/designed and I have had pics for a week or so. Among other things, I choose NOT to bring things up until I have firm knowledge and/or have an them in hand that I can unload. For example; I don't want to say that I MAY have more docks within the week and them not show. I think it's better (and more respectful) to discuss it when it's in hand.
If your like me (and most of you are) when you see something that you want, especially something new and innovative, you WANT IT NOW!!! I am the same way and I'd rather not give false hope to anyone here.
With that being said feel free to pass the word and keep an ear to the ground. I am currently working on more docks (with extra ac adapters) and a verity of cases; leather with and without snaps as well as the 'shell' encasing that you saw above.
Again, I prefer to keep things quiet and to not have to keep up with PM's (and potentially lose any) and to not risk putting my foot in my mouth.
With that being said, I will make it public knowledge AS SOON as I have ANY product in hand that you may want. Also, as of right now; I strictly plan on selling anything I receive at my cost to XDA members. I'm not here to make any profits but only to contribute where I can. If I can't develop or help solve programming issues at least I can front some money and get stuff here for us.
Hope all that makes sense?
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I will find some manufacturers to make one out.
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Great. Thanks for the help.
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I will find some manufacturers to make one out.
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AWESOME!! Thank you! If possible, please consider black with a rubberized coating (like the Seidio Innocase for the Droid phones). I definitely want one!
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It2steve
Didnt I read somewhere that you coordinating those snap on rear cases for the g tab ?
If so, whats the status on that project ?
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It2steve
Didnt I read somewhere that you coordinating those snap on rear cases for the g tab ?
If so, whats the status on that project ?
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I am working to get anything and everything possible here is the states. From what I know those 'shell' cases aren't complete yet. I have a couple of docks and I am expecting a few leather (or PU) cases in a couple weeks. I try to lay low until I actually have firm knowledge or something in my hand as not to create false expectation.
Hope that make sense?
I would love one of those plastic shell cases. Whoever is working on these ought to consider putting some type of stand in the case, similar to the Archos 101.
Any news on this Steve. I see that one supplier has them listed on Alibaba, but after contacting them, they said they were looking for a new supplier.
Has anyone gotten a look at the Best Buy case that comes free with the Note pre-order?
I was wondering if there is a screen protector included. I'm going to assume there is none unless someone has seen one.
Assuming it's the same as the international (which I believe it is), I don't see a screen protector.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUP0DF7nVQk
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Assuming it's the same as the international (which I believe it is), I don't see a screen protector.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUP0DF7nVQk
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Thanks for the link, that was the worst review ever, but it was good to see what I'm getting. It looks very similar to the pics on BB. I really want a rugged case(i.e. Ballistic, Trident, Otterbox). But I'll take what I can get.
NFC
Does anyone know if NFC will work with this case on?
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Does anyone know if NFC will work with this case on?
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That's a very good question as it seems the nfc antenna is located in the back cover. I doubt it will work.
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Best Buy rep
I stopped by best buy and asked the rep if the case would support NFC she looked at me like a deer in headlights and had no idea what NFC was she got another rep and asked him and he said NFC is on the Note but does not work yet I I told him I knew that already and wanted to know if the free case worked with NFC since the antenna for it is on the back of the case that comes with it he had no idea and asked his manager 15mins later the manager came out and said he had no idea yet he would think it would but could not say for sure since they aren't here yet he tried to find more info on his computer but found nothing so Best Buy doesn't even know yet the free case isn't turning out to be that much of a plus anymore.
The fact it's a flip case basically eliminated any interest I might have had in the BB deal for the Note. I can understand having a flip case for a tablet....but for a phone, I would find it as a hassle. I'm still gonna settle for a regular case, most likely a TPU one.
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I stopped by best buy and asked the rep if the case would support NFC she looked at me like a deer in headlights and had no idea what NFC was she got another rep and asked him and he said NFC is on the Note but does not work yet I I told him I knew that already and wanted to know if the free case worked with NFC since the antenna for it is on the back of the case that comes with it he had no idea and asked his manager 15mins later the manager came out and said he had no idea yet he would think it would but could not say for sure since they aren't here yet he tried to find more info on his computer but found nothing so Best Buy doesn't even know yet the free case isn't turning out to be that much of a plus anymore.
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We got no info on the actual flip case from corporate. It was a deal struck with samsung and bby corporate and has nothing to do with the retail level associates. Right now they are sitting in a warehouse waiting for distribution. Im sure they will be in before release. If they are there by wednesday I can give everyone a definite answer. After that Im on vacation
I doubt these were made for the ATT model. If they are the ones that were already made, it will not work as the nfc is not in the back like the ATT model.
One the bright side it was free and nfc is not yet enabled.
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I doubt these were made for the ATT model. If they are the ones that were already made, it will not work as the nfc is not in the back like the ATT model.
One the bright side it was free and nfc is not yet enabled.
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Yeah i'm comming to that same conclusion also
U think best buy will swap for another case of asked?
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The fact it's a flip case basically eliminated any interest I might have had in the BB deal for the Note. I can understand having a flip case for a tablet....but for a phone, I would find it as a hassle. I'm still gonna settle for a regular case, most likely a TPU one.
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Same here. Flip case with a pen device just screams of the original Palm PDA devices.
No way I can bring myself to use one of those again.
Best Bbuy Mobile
The people at Best Buy Mobile are way beter than the people at Best Buy they let me know my Note was in although the free Flip case was not they still could not tell me if it has the NFC contacts on it since they have not seen them but were very nice even though I have been pestering them for days guess I just have to wait and see don't know if I should get a case off internet that has the NFC contacts or wait till the free flip case is in
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The people at Best Buy Mobile are way beter than the people at Best Buy they let me know my Note was in although the free Flip case was not they still could not tell me if it has the NFC contacts on it since they have not seen them but were very nice even though I have been pestering them for days guess I just have to wait and see don't know if I should get a case off internet that has the NFC contacts or wait till the free flip case is in
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Wow longest run on sentence!
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Wow longest run on sentence!
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+1 on that. punctuation is not poison. You can safely use it!
The best buy case does in fact support nfc. However I tried to download Google wallet and it said its not a supported device :-( I knew this would happen but still sad. But yes I love my note and the case beat buy gave me with it!
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It is a hassle with the flip case, i ordered one off amazon and the cover gets in the way alot and it quite flimsy
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I played with one at AT&T for about 20 minutes today and I really didn't like the flip case on it. It felt very cheap. I've played with another one from someone's international Note and it was much sturdier. I hope the one Best Buy gives out is more solid, but I got a feeling its not.
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I played with one at AT&T for about 20 minutes today and I really didn't like the flip case on it. It felt very cheap. I've played with another one from someone's international Note and it was much sturdier. I hope the one Best Buy gives out is more solid, but I got a feeling its not.
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What kind of feeling?
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What kind of feeling?
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Felt like cheap cardboard to me. Like I could have easily bent or snapped it. The one I played with for the international note had hard plastic and looked nice as well. Hopefully the best buy one will be like the international one and not the cheap crap I saw at the AT&T store.
How difficult is it to root the Note right now? I was thinking about getting one soon but I don't have too much experience rooting devices (I've got a Kindle Fire running CM7 and I rooted my old Samsung Intercept, but those were pretty much rooted with apps or a prebuilt program so I can't take much credit). But I would definitely like to root it. I have gotten used to the freedom already.
Also, what's your overall opinion on the Note? I've heard a lot of good about it but I haven't heard much from developers personally.
I know its size is a prominent aspect but it's also what I like least about it (I haven't held one in my own hands yet though). If I'm into the capabilities of the Note but not its size, should I just go for the Galaxy S II?
Any and all opinions are welcome from Note owners.. I'm trying to make up my mind by the time I get my tax refund back (finally!) so anything you can tell me about your experience with the beast is appreciated.
Thanks,
NoGloww
How difficult is it to root the Note right now? I was thinking about getting one soon but I don't have too much experience rooting devices (I've got a Kindle Fire running CM7 and I rooted my old Samsung Intercept, but those were pretty much rooted with apps or a prebuilt program so I can't take much credit). But I would definitely like to root it. I have gotten used to the freedom already.
Also, what's your overall opinion on the Note? I've heard a lot of good about it but I haven't heard much from developers personally.
I know its size is a prominent aspect but it's also what I like least about it (I haven't held one in my own hands yet though). If I'm into the capabilities of the Note but not its size, should I just go for the Galaxy S II?
Any and all opinions are welcome from Note owners.. I'm trying to make up my mind by the time I get my tax refund back (finally!) so anything you can tell me about your experience with the beast is appreciated.
Thanks,
NoGloww
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Rooting is easy, you can use Odin to flash a pre root kernel. Takes all of two minutes. I enjoy this phone a lot. I wish there was a better choice of accessories, i.e. cases, and am afraid to see how gigantic this phone will be with an Otterbox case. Pretty much all good besides that.
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Rooting is easy, you can use Odin to flash a pre root kernel. Takes all of two minutes. I enjoy this phone a lot. I wish there was a better choice of accessories, i.e. cases, and am afraid to see how gigantic this phone will be with an Otterbox case. Pretty much all good besides that.
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Thanks for your input. I've checked out a case for it already on Amazon. Have you seen this: Heavy Duty Hybrid Case - Silicone Case Skin + Hard Protector Cover Case (Black Silicone + Black Bracket) with Foldable Stand for Samsung Galaxy Note/ i9220
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0071AQNVW/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
And yeah, an Otterbox? Oh man, I don't even want to think about it haha.
Do you have a link or thread for the root with Odin by chance?
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Thanks for your input. I've checked out a case for it already on Amazon. Have you seen this: Heavy Duty Hybrid Case - Silicone Case Skin + Hard Protector Cover Case (Black Silicone + Black Bracket) with Foldable Stand for Samsung Galaxy Note/ i9220
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0071AQNVW/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
And yeah, an Otterbox? Oh man, I don't even want to think about it haha.
Do you have a link or thread for the root with Odin by chance?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22684223
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The hardest part of rooting was getting the Samsung drivers (which wasn't hard lol)
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Rooting is super easy. Just download odin, and cwm, and flash it to your phone. Then flash a Kendall or custom rom and done. Takes about 15 minutes for me.
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Thanks for your input. I've checked out a case for it already on Amazon. Have you seen this: Heavy Duty Hybrid Case - Silicone Case Skin + Hard Protector Cover Case (Black Silicone + Black Bracket) with Foldable Stand for Samsung Galaxy Note/ i9220
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0071AQNVW/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
And yeah, an Otterbox? Oh man, I don't even want to think about it haha.
Do you have a link or thread for the root with Odin by chance?
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I've seen a few, but the build quality isn't where I'd like it. The reiko I hear is sloppy, the kracken is supposed to be good, just looks bad. I've got a speck case and it's embarrassing. 800 phone wrapped in scratched crap. There's a pre root kernel by da g, if all you're looking for is root, that's the way to go. Once you flash that your counter goes up one so it won't matter if you decide you want to go deeper and flash a custom recovery later down the line. Sorry I don't have the link for it, but it's in dev section for this phone and it will have all the appropriate links for drivers, Odin, and kernel.
update, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22684223 there's the pre root kernel for this phone along with drivers etc. that is the reiko case I saw. I read reviews on either that one or that one in black/ blue that said it was a sloppy fit. 7 bucks beats 60 though. According to Otterbox the defender is 6 1/8 * 3 3/4 or somewhere around there. I don't know if that would even got in my pocket anymore
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And don't forget the easy overclock...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
I picked up two cases from Amazon since they were so cheap:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0071AQNVW
Fits perfectly; a bit too bulky for everyday use
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H13M2K
Also fits perfectly. Nice and slim, but provides a good grip. It's what I keep on the Note.
$22 for both. Prime got it to me the next morning. Amazon also has 32GB micro SD for under $25 if you are placing an order anyway
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And don't forget the easy overclock...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
I picked up two cases from Amazon since they were so cheap:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0071AQNVW
Fits perfectly; a bit too bulky for everyday use
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H13M2K
Also fits perfectly. Nice and slim, but provides a good grip. It's what I keep on the Note.
$22 for both. Prime got it to me the next morning. Amazon also has 32GB micro SD for under $25 if you are placing an order anyway
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Thanks,I'll Keep that in mind.
Anyone know where I can get a screw for the i717. I need it for the back plate. It's bugging the hell out of me knowing one screw is missing. OCD I know. I don't want to try ebay because the last time I ordered one for an iphone, it was some cheap stuff.
I would be taking out another screw and take it to the hardware store.
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I go here for everything I buy ... http://www.etradesupply.com/
They have it all ...so far ...g
Thanks guy. Hardware store won't have screws this small. I think the smallest I ever seen was 4-40 at OSH.
Thanks for the tip Greg. I sent them an email as they didn't have one listed.
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Thanks guy. Hardware store won't have screws this small. I think the smallest I ever seen was 4-40 at OSH.
Thanks for the tip Greg. I sent them an email as they didn't have one listed.
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Your welcome ..
I was a bit Leary buying from them at first, as I am from most online retailers, but with these folks, I've been treated beyond good at every turn.
Top notch customer service, and fast delivery at very fair prices.
One note, you are buying from an international retailer based in China....But
They Fedex direct ship, and never miss a beat.
I continue to use and refer them, and prices for parts are sweet as well....g
I have had great experience with tvmall.com
Why not open your old phone and 'borrow' a screw? It works for the Army. The Supply seargent had a technical name for it. Anyone?
hi, you can maybe try getting a screw from another device your not using any more or you can look for one in an electronics store. i think it would be pretty hard to find just one small screw online.
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hi, you can maybe try getting a screw from another device your not using any more or you can look for one in an electronics store. i think it would be pretty hard to find just one small screw online.
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Man, I wish I thought of that!
Anyway, is it "I'm pretty, badass"? I wasn't sure about your bio.
Pre-ordered the second it opened up. For foldables I've had the Z Fold 1 and 2, as well as the the X Fold. Love folders despite the problems and I'm looking forward to getting back into a Pixel without giving up my folding action.
I'll be selling the watch new in the box, anyone know how one goes about that?
im in australia so i cant buy it, its not like i could afford it anyways lmao
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Pre-ordered the second it opened up. For foldables I've had the Z Fold 1 and 2, as well as the the X Fold. Love folders despite the problems and I'm looking forward to getting back into a Pixel without giving up my folding action.
I'll be selling the watch new in the box, anyone know how one goes about that?
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I'm all in also. Was thinking about holding off until the 8 Pro... especially since it's supposed to have a flat screen, but nah. A foldable seems like it'll be more fun.
Not really concerned about the price or or any other first glance, hot takes from influencers. I am however concerned about durability as I've never had a folding device. I made sure to select the Pixel protection (or whatever the heck it's called) option from the Google Store.
Anyhow, you should start the traditional pre-order/shipping/delivery thread.
Edit: I started the shipping thread.
For the price of a new Google Pixel Fold I'd prefer to buy a 90s Japanese hatchback instead
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Pre-ordered the second it opened up. For foldables I've had the Z Fold 1 and 2, as well as the the X Fold. Love folders despite the problems and I'm looking forward to getting back into a Pixel without giving up my folding action.
I'll be selling the watch new in the box, anyone know how one goes about that?
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Currently have a fold3 and have pre-ordered the pixel fold. Love the software of the zfold and think it's a better phone. Unfortunately the aspect ratio is rubbish and this is the one place pixel has it nailed which is why I pre-ordered. Currently have the watch 5 pro so not sure which watch to keep and which to sell.
Also I'm looking at building some custom ROMs again which I haven't been able to do on zfold 3
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Currently have a fold3 and have pre-ordered the pixel fold. Love the software of the zfold and think it's a better phone. Unfortunately the aspect ratio is rubbish and this is the one place pixel has it nailed which is why I pre-ordered. Currently have the watch 5 pro so not sure which watch to keep and which to sell.
Also I'm looking at building some custom ROMs again which I haven't been able to do on zfold 3
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i wonder what cool features custom roms will bring to folding phones, itll be exciting to see
I also pre-ordered. They almost priced themselves out of a sale to me, but they offered me a GREAT deal on my trade-in, so I couldn't resist.
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i wonder what cool features custom roms will bring to folding phones, itll be exciting to see
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w_tapper said:
i wonder what cool features custom roms will bring to folding phones, itll be exciting to see
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Getting anything from the pixel 7 booting like aicp or paranoid Android booted won't be too difficult but how well they'll work with the dual screen is a bigger question. Hopefully some more talented people than me will work on the fold as well
I have about the same luck with folders as I do rectangles as far as durability goes so I'm not losing sleep over it.
I can say for sure, it's hard to go back to the old rectangle after having a folding phone. You can, it just feels so limiting.
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I have about the same luck with folders as I do rectangles as far as durability goes so I'm not losing sleep over it.
I can say for sure, it's hard to go back to the old rectangle after having a folding phone. You can, it just feels so limiting.
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Thx for the reassurance on durability. First foldable I'll have, so wasn't sure... hence the protection.
In fairness I don't break too many phones and while there is an inherent weakness in the screen and folding mechanism that doesn't exist with a rectangle your handling tends to necessarily be more careful.
I'm not talking about walking around on eggshells, it's the form factor itself. Foldable are heavy enough that when dropped in your jacket pocket they can actually swing the jacket around to where it will hit the car door when you get in the car. Little things like that keep you a bit more aware of the phone more than you are with a rectangle.
You also don't handle it the same way because you may or may not unfold it, just that possibility makes you more particular about how you hold it and keeps you from whipping it out and waving it about in the same way you do with a rectangle. It's a small thing but it's present.
I guess an easy way to quantify it might be to wander over to the Z fold forums and give them a quick look for issues. Pick an older phone like the Z fold 2 to give people time to break them and post about it. You won't see much there, you can break them but they're not as fragile as you might think. I know I went in expecting the worst but for me the only thing that surprised was what they survived through; not what they didn't.
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Thx for the reassurance on durability. First foldable I'll have, so wasn't sure... hence the protection.
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I've had the z fold 3 for nearly 2 years and have dropped it more times than I care to remember. Durability wise the only issue I've had is the inner screen protector. It comes unstuck/fractures along the crease. You can remove it but I just had mine replaced twice but Samsung for £10 a time
I took the screen protector off the second, left the first one on: The Z fold 1 was a little sketchy compared to the second. After some time with the ZF2 I felt comfortable removing it, feels better when swiping without it.
Thx for the responses. Wasn't really concerned about the outer portion... mainly the screen, so thanks for adding stuff about the protector in there. The only thing I've heard of regarding the Z Fold series was the protector bubbling.
I haven't broken a phone since the Nexus 4. Even then, it was just the back glass Still have it in my collection as a matter of fact.
Anyhow, I'm no longer slightly concerned about screen issues and didn't want to derail this thread. Back to being about who is in.
Im very tempted to be honest, I love the form factor, and I a always loved pixels. I'm in the UK, but can't seem to get the option to trade in my Fold 4 though.
Quick question though, with the google store, does the funds get taken from the account as soon as you ore order? Or when it ships.
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Im very tempted to be honest, I love the form factor, and I a always loved pixels. I'm in the UK, but can't seem to get the option to trade in my Fold 4 though.
Quick question though, with the google store, does the funds get taken from the account as soon as you ore order? Or when it ships.
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It's stupid isn't it. In the USA they are offering $800 for the fold 3 but I'm in the UK also and they only offer £330 trade in. I can sell my z fold 3 on eBay for £500. Samsung and Google really screw UK user's on trade ins and freebies
I ordered using the interest free payment scheme and 1st payment comes out next month which might be before I get the device
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It's stupid isn't it. In the USA they are offering $800 for the fold 3 but I'm in the UK also and they only offer £330 trade in. I can sell my z fold 3 on eBay for £500. Samsung and Google really screw UK user's on trade ins and freebies
I ordered using the interest free payment scheme and 1st payment comes out next month which might be before I get the device
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Does seem really strange! We do seem to get had with the trade in prices.
I may well do the interest free payments as well. Is there an option to pay it all off in the future if needed?
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Does seem really strange! We do seem to get had with the trade in prices.
I may well do the interest free payments as well. Is there an option to pay it all off in the future if needed?
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I've used Karna before to buy on Samsung. From what I remember there was but think might have been early repayment charge which is stupid if it's interest free
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I've used Karna before to buy on Samsung. From what I remember there was but think might have been early repayment charge which is stupid if it's interest free
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Ah, Klarna, I think they declined me the last time I tried to use them. I'll see if it works this time.
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Ah, Klarna, I think they declined me the last time I tried to use them. I'll see if it works this time.
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Just asked what I earn and how much my mortgage/rent was nothing else lol. Just make something up