Ok, I got one question... Is it ok to use max default cpu speed (if I'm not overclocked). 1024... Or should I put a lower amount...
Sorry for my bad English.
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As for me, 800 MhZ is enough for comfortable work.
Overclocking is needed only in "Heavy" games.
armando101 said:
Ok, I got one question... Is it ok to use max default cpu speed (if I'm not overclocked). 1024... Or should I put a lower amount...
Sorry for my bad English.
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1024Mhz is stock speed and yes its safe to use.
If you using your phone only for calling/sms...then 800Mhz is enough.
For calls you can eaven use 600 and if you have your rom rooted you can set the voltage a bit lower.
But from my experience you can easy use the 1 ghz freq and the battery lasts long if you don´t use much your phone.
Neo works fine at 1.4 ghz from performance and battery.
If you use sio i/o and lagfree.
Depending on your CPU you could undervolt it at 1ghz and achieve the same results as it is on 800mhz. But yeah 1ghz is efficient enough just stay away from Live Wallpapers.
i run on stock tweaked perfect battery live on 1024 Mhz
full perfermonce with no problems with antutu cpu master pro
3ig said:
Depending on your CPU you could undervolt it at 1ghz and achieve the same results as it is on 800mhz. But yeah 1ghz is efficient enough just stay away from Live Wallpapers.
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Even devices with 600-700mhz is browsing web, watching YouTube, have live wallpapers, playing music, record videos......and etc
So why not use our phones too 700mhz
Please guys don't forget...minimum CPU with rooted phones have 122mhz
If they work even so low frequency...why not 600mhz....or up.
Edit. I'm using 122-1300mhz, screenoff 122-567mhz smartass/all frequency voltages lowered -50mV.
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taaviu said:
Even devices with 600-700mhz is browsing web, watching YouTube, have live wallpapers, playing music, record videos......and etc
So why not use our phones too 700mhz
Please guys don't forget...minimum CPU with rooted phones have 122mhz
If they work even so low frequency...why not 600mhz....or up.
Edit. I'm using 122-1300mhz, screenoff 122-567mhz smartass/all frequency voltages lowered -50mV.
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thanks bro for the tip to settle it low when screen is off, maybe thaT is more saving battery life, and i hit that button
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Hi All,
I am writing this post to know what are the pros and cons for overclocking the phone. I know it helps to increase the clock rate, however if the phone can support it, why didnt the manufacturers made it that way.
And if we do it, are there any chances that the phone might blow up and stop working or something.
I tried to search on this topic but cudnt find anything.
please reply
Iam using LG Optimus One
Thanks !!
Hello.
The main plus is the increase in productivity phone.
The downside is that, theoretically possible to burn the phone, but I repeat it theoretically.
I myself have clocked the phone and nothing terrible has happened to him.
I don't think anything's going to burn as kermel always goes in panic if it can't handle it.
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I don't think anything's going to burn as kermel always goes in panic if it can't handle it.
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The processor won't burn, as 4silvertooth says the kernel will panic and you'll end up in an endless bootloop; 729 - 748 mhz is safe, 800mhz in most cases cause the kernel to panic.
Well oc has nothing to do with proceesor (don't laugh). Well at hardware level the clock (MHz) and processor are two different thing the crystal provides the MHz to processor and in return it computes at that speeds. So by oc we are telling crystal to oscillate at higher frequency. So if our processor can't handle higher frequency it tells kernel get lost I am not doing this for you as I am not able to execute instruction at such speeds. And all the governers are nothing but a rule for processors to execute tasks. Like if you select performance governer it tells CPU to execute at Max speed you have set. So what ever you set the min frequency it always uses Max speed no need to change min if u r using performance governer same for powersaving governer no matter what you have set for max it always work on min. So all the governers has different sets of rules.
Pros: CPU speeds up the execution
Cons: Crystal may get hot.
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22VIN said:
The processor won't burn, as 4silvertooth says the kernel will panic and you'll end up in an endless bootloop; 729 - 748 mhz is safe, 800mhz in most cases cause the kernel to panic.
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No you wont go in bootloop.
Let me explain.
You will go in boot loop if you have set speed that processor can't handle and selected set on boot option. As the processor can't handle it and you are telling it to be always in that mode. Dont select set on boot. After reboot manually select oc. The second reason would be currepted filesystem as after kernel panic your phone has rebooted with unsaved changes chances are that filesystem table is currepted. Theres a command to check that I forgot name its like chkdsk for Linux. But no rom impliments that on unhandled reboots.
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Good info
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Well oc has nothing to do with proceesor (don't laugh). Well at hardware level the clock (MHz) and processor are two different thing the crystal provides the MHz to processor and in return it computes at that speeds. So by oc we are telling crystal to oscillate at higher frequency. So if our processor can't handle higher frequency it tells kernel get lost I am not doing this for you as I am not able to execute instruction at such speeds. And all the governers are nothing but a rule for processors to execute tasks. Like if you select performance governer it tells CPU to execute at Max speed you have set. So what ever you set the min frequency it always uses Max speed no need to change min if u r using performance governer same for powersaving governer no matter what you have set for max it always work on min. So all the governers has different sets of rules.
Pros: CPU speeds up the execution
Cons: Crystal may get hot.
Bye.
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i'm more concerned about the processors life. can overclocking to 729 in long term kill the processor.
coolbuy said:
i'm more concerned about the processors life. can overclocking to 729 in long term kill the processor.
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Even I am concerned about such facts, and also why didnt the manufacturers made it that way if it can support such speed without any problem.
Thanks for those who replied, Much appreciated
www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/06/01/qualcomm-adobe-optimize-flash-for-snapdragon-powered-android-phones/
Saw this article today that indicates qualcomm is working with adobe to bring flash to the msm7x27 chipset.
Awesome
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Nice....
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Pretty interesting news
but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
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but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
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Overclocking may be a solution?
These are really great news. I hope we will get flash as soon as possible. Let's see how these things will go.
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Sounds like it may be hardware accelerated. Hopefully it is because my nook with an a8 CPU at 1.2ghz has issues playing 480p flash videos without hardware acceleration. Would imagine my optimus overclocked at 806mhz would have issues with 360p flash videos without hardware acceleration.
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
Jaani said:
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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Well, sometime you can get 800MHz. But overclocking is strange device dependent. So, somebody have 768 very stable you, but somebody can have 800 and somebody have some problems also on 710 like me for example.
I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
Good news people let's wait and see...
Nice! I have been waiting for this from long time ago.
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I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
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it is possible but for most peoples ROM anything past 787 will give a kernel error and reboot the phone the only ROMi got it to work on was Megatron ROM
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On Spica Max Neocore output was 7 fps and on o1 its 63 fps currently.
Even than I could play games like ninjump and mx moto.
So what difference would be there in performance even if we can clock till 768-787 and not 806.
Will the flash not run because our clock speed is 787 and not 800?
I hope people are getting what I am asking. When our o1 can handle things like Neocore 63 fps, 1gb ext partition, multi format video playback, then why would it be difficult to run flash on 787 instead of 800 even when flash would be optimized for our kind of processors?
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Awesome news. Hope we get it soon.
More or less flash should work on or device even at 600mhz, the real issue is to optimize it for our chip set instructions.
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I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
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I hope so i wonder if our Froyo(O1lg) kernel source varies greatly with Ace's kernel code ...SoC chipset is the same msm7227 for other devices code wud vary but the vga and other arm(assembly) code must be the same..If any kernel developers cud please look into it
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Exactly. And even if there was a way to run flash on O1, I wouldn't bother with it myself. It would only slow down the phone and kill the battery life in two seconds.. I really, really don't understand what the big deal about this is. Low-budget phone, no flash. End of discussion lol.
Hello forum,
I have followed through the steps to root my Galaxy 5 player and I'm interested in over clocking it for better performence towards games and all around use. Can someone guide me on which application, what speed to set it on, or a break down about the good and bads of overclocking? This would be my first time doing so and I would appreicate the guidence.
Thank you for your time.
You will need to flash a custom kernel. Look in the development section. It will give you easy answers.
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There are applications that can do this, what would the kernel have to do with me over clocking?
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You will need to flash a custom kernel. Look in the development section. It will give you easy answers.
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Jexifta said:
I have followed through the steps to root my Galaxy 5 player and I'm interested in over clocking it for better performence towards games and all around use. Can someone guide me on which application, what speed to set it on, or a break down about the good and bads of overclocking? This would be my first time doing so and I would appreicate the guidence.
There are applications that can do this, what would the kernel have to do with me over clocking?
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There are many applications in google play to help you overclock(OC)/underclock(UC). The most popular ones seem to be Tegrak Ultimate and SetCPU. Both pretty much do the same thing (with a few exceptions one being SetCPU tends to give you a bit more information to look at), however these two you have to pay for. Some free alternatives (albeit you will only get the basic functionality) are AnTuTu CPU Master (Free) and No-Frills CPU Control. These two give (along with the ones mentioned before) you the basic functions to OC/UC, Undervolt, Set the Governor, Set the I/O scheduler, and some other tweaks you can do.
The good thing about overclocking is that it has the potential fix lag problems on your device, make games run smoother, and etc
The bad thing about overclocking is that it makes your CPU work harder (meaning that it could damage it if you OC for very long periods of time), makes your device run hotter, and reduces battery life.
The kernel is the thing that gives you the ability to OC/UC. Most kernels are setup default to OC to 1.2 ghz. But you can go much higher than that. I know with Tegrak Ultimate you can OC to 1.3 ghz, however some people have OC'ed the 5.0 to 1.5 ghz. You must install (Flash) a kernel in order to overclock or underclock the CPU.
This is a list of all the custom kernels/roms for all the Galaxy Players currently out. I believe most have instructions to help you flash a new kernel/rom. Just make sure you are flashing one that is meant for YOUR DEVICE, or you will brick it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
This is from XDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HMdOlxOee0o that talks about Rooting and Overclocking
This is another video showing you how to overclock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 (pretty much the same thing for all android devices.
Hope this helps you out.
Tegrak Overclock works fine. Overclocked to 1.3GHz with no problem at all. Needs root and custom kernel.
If you have money buy tegrac overclock ultimate..i use on 1.5 ghz just with tiny more voltage and other fq i undervolted so very good speed and battery is also good.
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I use Tegrak Overclock ultimate to reach up to 1.5 GHz. But do you really need a custom kernel to overclock?
I think so, I gave No-Frills CPU control and only got the default my player runs on. I just don't like the custom kernal for the USA Galaxy Player 5 because it doesn't last as long (charging and discharging) as the stock kernal does.
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I use Tegrak Overclock ultimate to reach up to 1.5 GHz. But do you really need a custom kernel to overclock?
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Jexifta said:
I think so, I gave No-Frills CPU control and only got the default my player runs on. I just don't like the custom kernal for the USA Galaxy Player 5 because it doesn't last as long (charging and discharging) as the stock kernal does.
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Well that's strange because I remember before I flashed a new kernel I was still able to overclock past stock
Jexifta said:
I think so, I gave No-Frills CPU control and only got the default my player runs on. I just don't like the custom kernal for the USA Galaxy Player 5 because it doesn't last as long (charging and discharging) as the stock kernal does.
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No frills cpu control is NOT overclocking tool..onlu overclocking tool on galaxy player is tegrack overclock.And depends what you want ..slow device but few hours more to last or much faster device but recharging almost every night..difference in speed on GP betwen 1 ghz and 1.5ghz is just huge.
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DZonikg said:
If you have money buy tegrac overclock ultimate..i use on 1.5 ghz just with tiny more voltage and other fq i undervolted so very good speed and battery is also good.
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Can you share your voltages please?
Thank you.
i been using that on my GP 5.0 international and it works pretty smoothly
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zardak said:
Can you share your voltages please?
Thank you.
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1496mhz 1310mv 1125mv
1000mhz 1245mv 1100mv
800mhz 1190mv 1100mv
400mhz 1040mv 1090mv
200mhz 930mv 1070mv
100mhz 870mv 930mv
It can probably go even lower but i did not go lower yet..i use this fq for few months with no single reboot.
Edit: I lower even more core voltage for 400mhz to 1040mv and for 200mhz to 1000mv and works normaly so far.
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DZonikg said:
1496mhz 1310mv 1125mv
1000mhz 1245mv 1100mv
800mhz 1190mv 1100mv
400mhz 1040mv 1090mv
200mhz 930mv 1070mv
100mhz 870mv 930mv
It can probably go even lower but i did not go lower yet..i use this fq for few months with no single reboot.
Edit: I lower even more core voltage for 400mhz to 1040mv and for 200mhz to 1000mv and works normaly so far.
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those voltages are pretty high.
these are mine
1500mhz 1310mv 1125mv
1200mhz 1210mv 1100mv
800mhz 1050mv 1100mv
400mhz 950mv 950mv
200mhz 800mv 950mv
100mhz 750mv 950mv
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those voltages are pretty high.
these are mine
1500mhz 1310mv 1125mv
1200mhz 1210mv 1100mv
800mhz 1050mv 1100mv
400mhz 950mv 950mv
200mhz 800mv 950mv
100mhz 750mv 950mv
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Ok thanks..i started to lower small by small to be shure buy even with that voltages i got good battery life.I change now to your voltages with just +10mv on 100,200 and 400.
I got this results
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Here my voltages, +50~75 mV from the freeze value for each freq. (i don't have tegrak ultimate, so I use Voltage Control by xan):
1200Mhz 1250mV
1000Mhz 1150mV
800Mhz 1075mV
400Mhz 925 mV
200Mhz 850 mV (limited by app)
100Mhz 850 mV (limited by app)
This on rj14 kernel, on rj12 i can go even much lower without any freeze/reboot don't know why...
Another very strange thing is that I've tested a lot some lower voltages with some benchmark/stress/games tests, all passed, but as soon as I made a search on Play Store the device freezes with artefacts on screen.
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Here my voltages, +50~75 mV from the freeze value for each freq. (i don't have tegrak ultimate, so I use Voltage Control by xan):
1200Mhz 1250mV
1000Mhz 1150mV
800Mhz 1075mV
400Mhz 925 mV
200Mhz 850 mV (limited by app)
100Mhz 850 mV (limited by app)
This on rj14 kernel, on rj12 i can go even much lower without any freeze/reboot don't know why...
Another very strange thing is that I've tested a lot some lower voltages with some benchmark/stress/games tests, all passed, but as soon as I made a search on Play Store the device freezes with artefacts on screen.
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You can use NSTools for undervolting. its 100% free and very useful.
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You can use NSTools for undervolting. its 100% free and very useful.
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I've already tried many of these application, even NSTools, but Voltage Control is perfect for me.
The reason is that in all these other application I tried, the voltage value you insert is not controlled, you can even go to 5V for example (yes I mean 5000mV), and this does not make me safe!
Tegrak Ultimate should be perfect too, I think, with its bar for voltage control and not an edit box.
I am runing for some time this profile
1572mhz 1330mv 1135mv
1100mhz 1210 1100
800mhz 1050 1100
400mhz 930mv 960mv
200mhz 810mv 950mv
100mhz 750mv 930mv
Ita super smooth ..did not have any resets or heating and battery lasts like on stock fq.
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I am runing for some time this profile
1572mhz 1330mv 1135mv
1100mhz 1210 1100
800mhz 1050 1100
400mhz 930mv 960mv
200mhz 810mv 950mv
100mhz 750mv 920mv
Ita super smooth ..did not have any resets or heating and battery lasts like on stock fq.
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Which ROM and Kernel are you using? Just curious.
So whats the best settings for a lag free but still battery saving?
There are no best settings as such, you can attempt a scalable undervolted processor via governor. You alone can decide the balance of power saving vs processing muscle. It depends solely on your needs
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So whats the best settings for a lag free but still battery saving?
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use governor smartassV2 or interactive (smartassV2 is even more better than interactive) and
u can also keep cpu max freq at 800 Mhz it saves battery and at 800 mhz our devices also dnt lag..
I am S-On running Shrike's PAC cm10 rom with his latest Erhmagad kernel set to lionheart governer and ROW i/o scheduler. My min CPU frequency is 192 MHz and my max is 1404 MHz but im still only getting decent battery life.
What are the optimal CPU settings for someone who uses their phone primarly for text messaging, youtube, emails, browsing the web, etc. I don't really do much power gaming. I heard on some thread that there is no power usage difference between 192 and 384 MHz is this true?
im using funky kernel 2.2 and im also interested in what are some good settings to start out with...
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I am S-On running Shrike's PAC cm10 rom with his latest Erhmagad kernel set to lionheart governer and ROW i/o scheduler. My min CPU frequency is 192 MHz and my max is 1404 MHz but im still only getting decent battery life.
What are the optimal CPU settings for someone who uses their phone primarly for text messaging, youtube, emails, browsing the web, etc. I don't really do much power gaming. I heard on some thread that there is no power usage difference between 192 and 384 MHz is this true?
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I have found 384 to be better than 192. At least on my phone.
Does lion heart run better then snartass v2?
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gleggie said:
I am S-On running Shrike's PAC cm10 rom with his latest Erhmagad kernel set to lionheart governer and ROW i/o scheduler. My min CPU frequency is 192 MHz and my max is 1404 MHz but im still only getting decent battery life.
What are the optimal CPU settings for someone who uses their phone primarly for text messaging, youtube, emails, browsing the web, etc. I don't really do much power gaming. I heard on some thread that there is no power usage difference between 192 and 384 MHz is this true?
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The difference is almost negligible, and at 384MHz, things can finish up their work faster and get back to deep sleep faster. In general though, like so many other things it depends a lot on your individual usage pattern.
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Does lion heart run better then snartass v2?
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They're very different in how they work so it's hard to even do a direct comparison. smartassV2 is based on the interactive governor and does a lot of "fast-peaking" where it jumps to high frequencies more quickly and more often. Lionheart is conservative based, so it moves through the individual frequencies more smoothly, but it doesn't increase as quickly. I've tested smartassV2 in my kernel, but haven't pushed it in an official update yet, because I haven't gotten it tuned to a point where I'm happy with it. For my use, I've found lionheart to be quite smooth and pretty easy on battery.
If you want some comparison, dancedance is probably the closest thing to lionheart in Funky Kernel, but dancedance scales a bit different and has some different sleep routines, so it acts a little different under light load.