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Hey guys, just got an HTC hero. I'm loving it, but I want to know how I can run apps off the SD card. I've tried looking all over this forum, all over the web, but I honesly can't find an easy to do guide without the worry of screwing up my phone.
I rooted my phone with the virgin guide in the other forum, and I downloaded 3.1-update-hero-modacocustomrom-core-signed.zip from one of the guides that I found. I managed to install it, but I still wasn't so sure how to use app2sd, even if it was installed, so I went back to my nand backup and I'm just on my normal rooted HTC Hero again.
Before people get angry for not searching around etc, I have, alot. I'm just a bit cautious doing things when I am like 40% sure I am doing the right thing. Even Haykuro Apps to SD is hard to follow. The only thing I want to do is give my phone more room for apps.
Please help, thank you.
el-grosso said:
Hey guys, just got an HTC hero. I'm loving it, but I want to know how I can run apps off the SD card. I've tried looking all over this forum, all over the web, but I honesly can't find an easy to do guide without the worry of screwing up my phone.
I rooted my phone with the virgin guide in the other forum, and I downloaded 3.1-update-hero-modacocustomrom-core-signed.zip from one of the guides that I found. I managed to install it, but I still wasn't so sure how to use app2sd, even if it was installed, so I went back to my nand backup and I'm just on my normal rooted HTC Hero again.
Before people get angry for not searching around etc, I have, alot. I'm just a bit cautious doing things when I am like 40% sure I am doing the right thing. Even Haykuro Apps to SD is hard to follow. The only thing I want to do is give my phone more room for apps.
Please help, thank you.
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Modaco's ROMs have auto A2SD. All you need to do is to partition your SD card in the correct way. This you can do from the Amon-Ra recovery menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561124
I tried partitioning the SD card. 32mb for the swap part, and 256mb for the ext2 with the rest of the space going to fat32 for my files and stuff, but when i started attempting to install apps, i saw that the space in my internal storage was going down, and not the space on my memory card. did i do it wrong or something?
i've been trying to find partition guides, but none have helped so i just went with my gut. thanks.
el-grosso said:
Hey guys, just got an HTC hero. I'm loving it, but I want to know how I can run apps off the SD card. I've tried looking all over this forum, all over the web, but I honesly can't find an easy to do guide without the worry of screwing up my phone.
I rooted my phone with the virgin guide in the other forum, and I downloaded 3.1-update-hero-modacocustomrom-core-signed.zip from one of the guides that I found. I managed to install it, but I still wasn't so sure how to use app2sd, even if it was installed, so I went back to my nand backup and I'm just on my normal rooted HTC Hero again.
Before people get angry for not searching around etc, I have, alot. I'm just a bit cautious doing things when I am like 40% sure I am doing the right thing. Even Haykuro Apps to SD is hard to follow. The only thing I want to do is give my phone more room for apps.
Please help, thank you.
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el-grosso said:
I tried partitioning the SD card. 32mb for the swap part, and 256mb for the ext2 with the rest of the space going to fat32 for my files and stuff, but when i started attempting to install apps, i saw that the space in my internal storage was going down, and not the space on my memory card. did i do it wrong or something?
i've been trying to find partition guides, but none have helped so i just went with my gut. thanks.
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How did you partition the SD-card? It's important to make the FAT partition first.
shelnes said:
How did you partition the SD-card? It's important to make the FAT partition first.
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I tried starting again using this guide (can't post links, will PM)
Still.. when I install applications, the internal memory storage goes down and not my memory card. The only thing I didn't do on that guide was turn ext2 to ext3 on my computer because it didn't work, so I did it in the recovery system on android.
Thanks.
el-grosso said:
I tried starting again using this guide (can't post links, will PM)
Still.. when I install applications, the internal memory storage goes down and not my memory card. The only thing I didn't do on that guide was turn ext2 to ext3 on my computer because it didn't work, so I did it in the recovery system on android.
Thanks.
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I've sent you a couple of PM's
Hi guys. I've reached my breaking point on the anemic app storage space on our handy dandy little device. So far I've avoided any real mods for this device because I didn't want to start a new habit of flashing on the regular (been there, done that, fun but sometimes time consuming). But right I can't install any large programs without having the constant low space message. So if the only real functionality I need is an extended app storage partition what method would be best to achieve that. Thanks in advance everyone.
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Hi guys. I've reached my breaking point on the anemic app storage space on our handy dandy little device. So far I've avoided any real mods for this device because I didn't want to start a new habit of flashing on the regular (been there, done that, fun but sometimes time consuming). But right I can't install any large programs without having the constant low space message. So if the only real functionality I need is an extended app storage partition what method would be best to achieve that. Thanks in advance everyone.
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I think there is only one way: Urukdroid.
I thinks its the only way to extend app partition Try it
Okay follow up question, should I then get a ne SD card as mine is only class 2, or should I install on internal. Pros?cons? Again thanks
dancnpete said:
Okay follow up question, should I then get a ne SD card as mine is only class 2, or should I install on internal. Pros?cons? Again thanks
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Install on sd card is better if you want more space on your tablet
But otherwise i prefer install on internal
There is a thread in here somewhere in which a fella found that gen8 devices keep a cache of old APK files. I cleared out that cache and it fixed all my maddening app storage problems. Look for that thread.
I tried finding the thread you mentioned with no luck, any idea what to search for?
I just spent a good 20 minutes searching and couldn't find it either.. weird. I'll see if I can't find the directory on my own when I get home.
Can you get a temp root? That's necessary.
Knowing there is an answer is half the battle.
I found .apk's in internal \Downloads directory and \system\APK. I didn't even have to use adb, just mounted the disks and used explorer.
I can confirm that deleting them doesn't hurt anything. However, there really wasn't that much and it didn't help my sort of storage issue.
I haven't tried this on my A101 yet, but Link2SD http://market.android.com/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD should work. You will have to create a second partition on your internal storage or SD card though.
@YardE
First off, many thanks for your efforts on porting CM7 to our lovelly device. Great work, I hope it will reach the stage when we can flash it for 24/7 use.
I was wondering about the internal/external storages, and some common problems there are there.. Since I cannot post in your thread (not yet to 10 posts), I decided to post it here, so someone would notice and bring it to your attention..
Have a look at forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/28396-internal-storage-wasted-merge-with-sd-card/ - although it's another device, the described problem is the same a i9001 user can face..
Most apps do not "see" the external SD, because it's under /sdcard/external_sd/, and they install in /sdcard/.. However in our phone, that's the internal storage which can fill pretty easilly, especially if you load a ton of apps with downloadable data, such as navigators.. This kinda nullifies the benefits of a 32GB card, because you can only use it for music/videos/torrents/etc, and not install stuff on it..
So, is it possible (through cyanogen) to merge the external and internal sd cards? (prefferably without a raid system, as I assume that would lead to corruptions if the phone boots without it's external sd? dunno, you know better)
or at least merge the phone storage with the internal storage (internal sd), and mount the external one solelly on /sdcard/?
I'm still pretty green, as I have gotten my phone for around a month.. And it's pretty much my first android.. However I'd like to have an option besides hacking *.apks to change their downloaded data dir.. Moving apps to SD only moves them into the internal card.. So pretty much I feel my external is useless..
Many thanks again for your time and dedication
I have just recently (5 hours ago) purchased a 16GB Tablet, that I had them repartition at the store, which has version 1.4.2.
I've spent the last few hours reading this forum and watching videos and now know WAY more than I ever intended to know about this tablet.
Rooting, dual OP, CM7, CM9, ROM, R3, Restore, etc. etc.
Due to so many warnings I've read about, I'm a little afraid to mess things up.
All I really want to do is install games I already have on my computer to the NT.
There were a couple of threads talking about this, but they were dealing with version 1.4.1. Not 1.4.2. I don't know how much of a difference there is.
Can someone suggest the best way to install these games?
Thanks for all the info you guys provide. It was hours of very informative reading.
i'm pretty sure games need memory ( storage ) and lots of it. tell us how much of the microhcsd you have available. did they leave you with one or six and a half gig ?
Unless you have an android computer/tablet with games from the play store or some other android market, the "games" you are referring to are not as easily transferable to an android tablet like the nook. The games have to be rewritten/redesigned for the android OS.
As for many of the warnings you've read, they are mostly to protect the person writing the guide. I.e. if you somehow manage to not follow directions and screw something up horribly, they want not responsibility for your mistakes. Honestly, 90% of them time in my experience with Android tinkering, Occam's razor holds true: the simplest answer is usually the right answer. And in terms of Android tinkering, that answer is user error.
So if you can read and follow directions and do a bit of troubleshooting here and there, you will be just fine.
My advice? Start with a bootable CM7 sd card. Go from there.
My apologies for lack of info.
After repartition, I was left with 5.91GB for B&N, and 8.00GB Other storage, plus 16GB SD Card.
Regarding games. All the games I want to use are all apk android games that I had from another android product.
Cubanluke88
The Bootable CM7 SD Card will boot from the card and leave the Tablet's OS alone? Is that correct? I guess this is where I'm confused. I think I read too much.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Rooting your device is like removing the old OS and replacing it with a new one?
Booting from CM7 SD Card will boot from the cards OS leaving the original OS on the device?
On one of the video's I watched, it was said "DO NOT FLASH ON THE 16GB Nook". I don't even know what that means, but I'll look it up and see if I can find out.
Thanks so much for helping a newbie who still doesn't know the terminology. I'll concentrate on reading about booting from CM7 SD Card.
Alright I'll try to address most of your confusion.
The bootable SD card essentially means you will not touch the current internal OS. You basically burn an image of CM7 to the card and when that card is inserted, the Nook will boot into CM7 instead of the B&N Android OS.
Rooting does not necessarily mean changing the internal OS. Because the B&N OS is Android based, and because Android is linux based, "root" is sort of the equivalent of administrative access on a Windows machine. It simply means you have full control of the device. Rooting the nook means the OS stays intact, but you can install the play store (Android market) and do all sorts of other things you are otherwise locked out of.
"Flash" is simply a techy way of saying install. When someone says "flash CM7 over the internal OS" they mean that you are installing CM7 (the custom version of Android that has been built) over the internal OS.
The safest thing for you is to create the bootable SD card of CM7 as it does not touch the internal OS. However, you can also create a bootable sd card for the custom recovery. From this custom recovery, you could then "flash" (install) CM7, CM9, or one of the other roms (custom OS) for the Nook tablet. It is also in this custom recovery that you can make a "nandroid backup" which is basically images of how your nook exists in its present form.
I know thats a lot of info. But honestly, before diving into this stuff, people should try to understand as much of that as possible. There are tons of resources out there that explain this stuff. Again, I suggest the bootable CM7 sd card as its the least likely to screw up. However, remember that should you go after the internal stuff, this thing is incredibly difficult to brick. Any mistake you make has likely already been made before and recovered from. So if something goes awry, don't panic.
Thats a lot of words. Damn.
It may have been a lot of words, but you've answered all of my questions and then some. I thank you very much for taking the time. This information helps tremendously and also makes so much more sense of what I read already.
Thanks Again.
That post deserved a thank. Really good description.
Sent from my R800x
We have started a very good community here, keep up people.
I should add one more thing.
Should you ever decide to go internal, i.e. flashing over the B&N OS, which IMO is the better way, its incredibly easy to return the device back to stock conditions should you ever need to (i.e. for warranty purposes or something).
I've done it myself just to make sure that its possible. And it is. Very easily.
I just wanted to come back and say Thank you!!
I was able to created the Bootable CM7 sd card and it went flawlessly.
I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm having fun looking around.
Thanks to this group of wonderful people, especially Cubanluke88m who still take the time to help even the virginal newbies who don't even know the lingo.
My hats off to this forum.
In the future I may in fact do this all internally, but I guess I needed to do it this way first just to see if I could. Now I feel much more comfortable with the files, burning images, etc. then before.
Congrats, enjoy.
The next thing I would recommend doing: make a clockwork mod recovery bootable card and make a nandroid backup of the internal OS.
ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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It's fine, it's always better to ask first. Could save you a lot of trouble in the long run. Unlike lots of other users, you seem like you are willing to search and learn things which is always good!
You can regain the remainder of the storage after writing the CM7 .img to your SD card. To do this in Windows, you'll need to download and install either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master. I usually use Partition Wizard.
Unfortunately, while using the CM7 SD ROM, you won't have access to your apps and books from the stock ROM, so you'll want to transfer them to your storage inside the SD ROM. So I recommend copying the files to your computer, then connect your NT running the SD ROM. From there just copy the files to your SD card.
I've been rooted and using 3rd party ROMs for a long time, with no intention of ever going back to stock 4.0. I'm currently using the unofficial AOKP 4.4.2 build.
In general, do custom ROMs require the 2GB/10GB partitioning that this phone comes with as stock, or can they work properly with one big data partition and storage on the physical SD card?
Reason being is I'm running out of space on \data and if I'm going to go through the steps of resizing, I'm just wondering if it's necessary to keep two partitions.
I'm not an expert on the subject by any means but I don't think messing with the partitions as it's laid out for current roms for our device would be a good idea'r. The way I understand it, and I'm most likely wrong so please educate me as well, one partition is basically for the brains of your device's OS, one is for playing ... all the other fun stuff that gets read and written to willy nilly. I replied to this post hoping to learn stuff as well!
Get a larger sdcard. The partitions are built into the recovery.