I have just recently (5 hours ago) purchased a 16GB Tablet, that I had them repartition at the store, which has version 1.4.2.
I've spent the last few hours reading this forum and watching videos and now know WAY more than I ever intended to know about this tablet.
Rooting, dual OP, CM7, CM9, ROM, R3, Restore, etc. etc.
Due to so many warnings I've read about, I'm a little afraid to mess things up.
All I really want to do is install games I already have on my computer to the NT.
There were a couple of threads talking about this, but they were dealing with version 1.4.1. Not 1.4.2. I don't know how much of a difference there is.
Can someone suggest the best way to install these games?
Thanks for all the info you guys provide. It was hours of very informative reading.
i'm pretty sure games need memory ( storage ) and lots of it. tell us how much of the microhcsd you have available. did they leave you with one or six and a half gig ?
Unless you have an android computer/tablet with games from the play store or some other android market, the "games" you are referring to are not as easily transferable to an android tablet like the nook. The games have to be rewritten/redesigned for the android OS.
As for many of the warnings you've read, they are mostly to protect the person writing the guide. I.e. if you somehow manage to not follow directions and screw something up horribly, they want not responsibility for your mistakes. Honestly, 90% of them time in my experience with Android tinkering, Occam's razor holds true: the simplest answer is usually the right answer. And in terms of Android tinkering, that answer is user error.
So if you can read and follow directions and do a bit of troubleshooting here and there, you will be just fine.
My advice? Start with a bootable CM7 sd card. Go from there.
My apologies for lack of info.
After repartition, I was left with 5.91GB for B&N, and 8.00GB Other storage, plus 16GB SD Card.
Regarding games. All the games I want to use are all apk android games that I had from another android product.
Cubanluke88
The Bootable CM7 SD Card will boot from the card and leave the Tablet's OS alone? Is that correct? I guess this is where I'm confused. I think I read too much.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Rooting your device is like removing the old OS and replacing it with a new one?
Booting from CM7 SD Card will boot from the cards OS leaving the original OS on the device?
On one of the video's I watched, it was said "DO NOT FLASH ON THE 16GB Nook". I don't even know what that means, but I'll look it up and see if I can find out.
Thanks so much for helping a newbie who still doesn't know the terminology. I'll concentrate on reading about booting from CM7 SD Card.
Alright I'll try to address most of your confusion.
The bootable SD card essentially means you will not touch the current internal OS. You basically burn an image of CM7 to the card and when that card is inserted, the Nook will boot into CM7 instead of the B&N Android OS.
Rooting does not necessarily mean changing the internal OS. Because the B&N OS is Android based, and because Android is linux based, "root" is sort of the equivalent of administrative access on a Windows machine. It simply means you have full control of the device. Rooting the nook means the OS stays intact, but you can install the play store (Android market) and do all sorts of other things you are otherwise locked out of.
"Flash" is simply a techy way of saying install. When someone says "flash CM7 over the internal OS" they mean that you are installing CM7 (the custom version of Android that has been built) over the internal OS.
The safest thing for you is to create the bootable SD card of CM7 as it does not touch the internal OS. However, you can also create a bootable sd card for the custom recovery. From this custom recovery, you could then "flash" (install) CM7, CM9, or one of the other roms (custom OS) for the Nook tablet. It is also in this custom recovery that you can make a "nandroid backup" which is basically images of how your nook exists in its present form.
I know thats a lot of info. But honestly, before diving into this stuff, people should try to understand as much of that as possible. There are tons of resources out there that explain this stuff. Again, I suggest the bootable CM7 sd card as its the least likely to screw up. However, remember that should you go after the internal stuff, this thing is incredibly difficult to brick. Any mistake you make has likely already been made before and recovered from. So if something goes awry, don't panic.
Thats a lot of words. Damn.
It may have been a lot of words, but you've answered all of my questions and then some. I thank you very much for taking the time. This information helps tremendously and also makes so much more sense of what I read already.
Thanks Again.
That post deserved a thank. Really good description.
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We have started a very good community here, keep up people.
I should add one more thing.
Should you ever decide to go internal, i.e. flashing over the B&N OS, which IMO is the better way, its incredibly easy to return the device back to stock conditions should you ever need to (i.e. for warranty purposes or something).
I've done it myself just to make sure that its possible. And it is. Very easily.
I just wanted to come back and say Thank you!!
I was able to created the Bootable CM7 sd card and it went flawlessly.
I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm having fun looking around.
Thanks to this group of wonderful people, especially Cubanluke88m who still take the time to help even the virginal newbies who don't even know the lingo.
My hats off to this forum.
In the future I may in fact do this all internally, but I guess I needed to do it this way first just to see if I could. Now I feel much more comfortable with the files, burning images, etc. then before.
Congrats, enjoy.
The next thing I would recommend doing: make a clockwork mod recovery bootable card and make a nandroid backup of the internal OS.
ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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It's fine, it's always better to ask first. Could save you a lot of trouble in the long run. Unlike lots of other users, you seem like you are willing to search and learn things which is always good!
You can regain the remainder of the storage after writing the CM7 .img to your SD card. To do this in Windows, you'll need to download and install either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master. I usually use Partition Wizard.
Unfortunately, while using the CM7 SD ROM, you won't have access to your apps and books from the stock ROM, so you'll want to transfer them to your storage inside the SD ROM. So I recommend copying the files to your computer, then connect your NT running the SD ROM. From there just copy the files to your SD card.
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...while it needs a partitioned SD-card, if mine isn't?
Hey, thanks for stopping by!
I want to try out a lot of the fabulous ROMs available for the HTC Desire, but many of them 'require' a partitioned SD-card.
Although I could just partition it anyway and enjoy the benefits that come with it, I really just want to test some ROMs out for now. Because partitioning (or anything with a certain risk) means, for me, that I have to check a huge number of guides, forum posts and Youtube video's just to make sure I'm not going to screw it all up. (Because there is never a single source that tells the entire story in the detail you actually need )
So the question:
(Concerning devices with little internal memory, like my HTC Desire)
Do these ROMs need a partitioned SD-card to be able fit on my device in the first place? Or is it that after flashing, there is so little internal memory left that the only way I can enjoy new apps is through a partitioned SD-card?
Thanks for reading and I hope some of you can answer my questions!
Please help a noob out here. I know the answers are out there, but I am not sure which method is best to use. I am familiar with rooting on my android cellphone, but I am not so sure about the methods used to root the nook tablet. They seem a bit more complicated and I want to make sure I have the correct info well explained.
I would like to know the following:
Where can I find the thread concerning installation of CWM/Rooting and how to back up my tablet before I I do anything else? (I have learned this the hard way, once. Never again will I proceed before backing up so I can restore it when I screw it up)
What is the most stable ROM that has been developed for the tablet so far?
Where can I find the instructions on how to install this ROM so that even an idiot (aka, me) can install this?
Maybe I am just skittish, but I hope you understand.
Thanks in advance!!!
Are you looking to root and run your ROM from SD card? Or would you rather install things to internal?
Thanks for replying. If I rooted and ran ROM from SD card, would that leave the Nook with the ability to run as originally designed if I opted to do that? (by basically removing the SD card and letting the Nook boot normally?) I have never used that option on any of my rooted phones. If so, that is probably the way to go. What do you recommend? I know it is a risk either way, but it sounds like running the ROM from the SD card seems safer.
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Thanks for replying. If I rooted and ran ROM from SD card, would that leave the Nook with the ability to run as originally designed if I opted to do that? (by basically removing the SD card and letting the Nook boot normally?) I have never used that option on any of my rooted phones. If so, that is probably the way to go. What do you recommend? I know it is a risk either way, but it sounds like running the ROM from the SD card seems safer.
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I just bought a 32GB class 4 SD card tonight, so I am ready.....
This thread might be a good place to get you started. Or at least start thinking about how you want to get set up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528625
Using this method by albertwertz allows you to put regular root, CWM, and CM7 (most stable CyanogenMod ROM so far) all on an SD card. He even includes step-by-step videos and does a good job explaining. His YouTube channel contains more videos of various ways to root, too.
If you want everything on your SD card and not have to worry about messing with internal, a method like this is probably your best bet.
Thanks. I tried following Alberts method step by step twice now, and everything seems to go right as far as making the SD card, but when I insert it into my 16GB Nook Tablet, running 1.4.2, and partitioned at BN, it will not reboot. The only way it will reboot is if I take the SD card that I made to root the tablet. It will reboot into normal operation mode. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. I am really getting frustrated.
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Thanks. I tried following Alberts method step by step twice now, and everything seems to go right as far as making the SD card, but when I insert it into my 16GB Nook Tablet, running 1.4.2, and partitioned at BN, it will not reboot. The only way it will reboot is if I take the SD card that I made to root the tablet. It will reboot into normal operation mode. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. I am really getting frustrated.
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Try turning your nook off, insert sd card, then plug it in to charger or usb cord. Some model nooks have to plugged in to boot from sd card.
I finally got it to work. Everything went well. CM7 installed, looked great. When I installed Google Apps. It comes up to the registration screen, but when it tells me to touch the android, the tablet does not register my touch and I can't move past the screen
Finally got everything working. I don't know why I got all worried. Had to reinstall a couple of times and fix permissions. Just like always. I must say I really like CM7 compared to the Nook interface. Nice job Devs! Thanks for everyone's help pointing me in the right direction.
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Hello, I would like to use some android apps on my nook 15 GB running 1.4.2 without rooting permenently. I need to make a SD card so I can revert back to my regular nook operating system. At age 70 the more I read the more confused I get, there is just too much information out there. Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
Hello, hope this vid helps (better than trying to read instructions).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjxZxHoUsY
Thanks for the link but...
I viewed the video but it seems to be about restoring to the original software. I guess I did not explain well that I have an unaltered nook tablet and have done nothing yet. I need first to create a sd card to insert and boot to. My understanding is that I then turn off, remove the card and reboot to access the B&N software with no permanent change to my nook. Is that possible with 1.4.2?
Perfectly possible and exactly what you should do. I'll find a link in a bit, busy at the moment.
If you run CM7 from an SD card you can do a power on start to CM7 and reboot back to native nook. Booting to the SD version does nothing to the internals of the nook. The following address should get you to the development thread for CM7 alpha final. Follow the instructions for the SD version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
I suggest a Sandisk Class 4 micro SD card. Depending on how much material you intend to download, get an appropriate size card. I am using an 8 GB and I have allocated all the leftover space to the last partition.
Directions are easy. Download the file and unzip to get the image. Use the win32diskimager program to write the image to the SD. CAUTION here be sure it is the SD that you write the image to. Google Mini Partition Wizard Home Edition and download the home edition noted as freeware to reallocate the SD space. That is simple as well. Go to the bottom partition and move the slider to the right and then save.
If you have specific questions please post and someone will respond.
Bill
I apologize for misunderstanding your original post, anyway here's another YouTube vid you can check out...hopefully this one works out for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKO8-seTLU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679089
Generally, if you follow the steps above (short of installing the Asian apps), you'll be fine. Easy 1/2 hour to 1 hour to go through the downloading of apps, OS, Root image, etc. to having a bootable Nook that's running off the MicroSD card.
Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
Keep in mind that Sandisk MicroSD cards are generally recommended for their stability, speed, and trouble free use. You can use other brands, but if you encounter an error with your new OS, use a Sandisk card instead.
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Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
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This is only really necessary if you think B&N will push some update that will affect the current method used to bypass the bootloader.
This would imply a level of intelligence I don't think them capable of.
aquarian1 said:
Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
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Hi, Aquarian1. I'm old, too.
Did you get it figured out? It really is fairly straightforward once you understand what each basic step is doing. You can practice repeatedly until you get comfortable without doing any harm or damage.
Let us know how it's going. The folks here are awesome. We'll get you there!
I just purchased a nook 16gb tablet and want to replace the nook software with cm7. I have been reading and there are so many different methods I'm not sure what to do. Can someone point me in the right direction? It has 1.4.2 on it and I want to completely replace it with cm7. No need for the nook software.
1.) Make bootable CWM recovery SD card, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446987
2.) Download CM7 internal version, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
3.) Download latest gApps, found here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
4.) Place the CM7 zip and the gApps zip on My NOOK internal memory (mnt/media partition).
5.) Boot into your CWM SD card (plugging into the charger may be necessary to get it to boot from SD).
6.) Wipe dalvik cache
Factory reset
Install the CM7 ROM from internal SD card
Install gApps from internal SD card
Reboot
7.) Enjoy!
Thanks for the detailed answer. Will this give me access to more than 1gb of space or do I need to repartition the memory as well?
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Thanks for the detailed answer. Will this give me access to more than 1gb of space or do I need to repartition the memory as well?
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You will still need to partition. If you live near a bn store you could have them do it for you since you haven't changed anything yet, but it isn't that difficult to do yourself.
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You will still need to partition. If you live near a bn store you could have them do it for you since you haven't changed anything yet, but it isn't that difficult to do yourself.
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Note: having B&N do it will give you less space to use than if you do it yourself.
I used the repart.img from the bn 1.42 factory recovery to get 8 gb. Is there an easy way to get more space?
Here is the way to choose how much storage you want divided between partitions. Just folllow the directions and you should be okay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
If i screw something up can I use the repart.img sd card to get back to where I'm at now?
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If i screw something up can I use the repart.img sd card to get back to where I'm at now?
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Yes, you should be able to get the partitions back to factory stock if necessary. However, many people have used this method without trouble, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
andre0116 said:
If i screw something up can I use the repart.img sd card to get back to where I'm at now?
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I know it seems daunting but if you follow the steps exactly and execute the commands as shown, you'll be just fine.
Well so far I have cm7 installed with 8 gb of usable space and haven't had any problems. Thanks for the info and reassurance. I will try to repartition it again after work.
I notice everyone seems to be running cm9. This tablet is mainly going to be used by my daughter to read books, play games, and watch side loaded video. Is the current build sufficient for that or should I wait for a later one?
andre0116 said:
I notice everyone seems to be running cm9. This tablet is mainly going to be used by my daughter to read books, play games, and watch side loaded video. Is the current build sufficient for that or should I wait for a later one?
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If I were you, I'd stick with CM7 for now, at least until the devs publish a release candidate with the 3.0x kernel.
For what your daughter is planning to do, CM7 will fit the bill nicely; the only thing to be aware of is WiFi hangups -- you need to show her how to turn the WiFi off before turning the screen off, or show her how to reboot the tablet.
Saludos,
Steve
andre0116 said:
I notice everyone seems to be running cm9. This tablet is mainly going to be used by my daughter to read books, play games, and watch side loaded video. Is the current build sufficient for that or should I wait for a later one?
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Everyone is definitely not running cm9, as of a few weeks ago, according to my poll here.
With that said, unless your daughter plans on using Netflix/higher end games, I'd check out CM9. The CM9 .04 version is extremely stable aside from hardware acceleration.
I was referring to the people responding to my questions based on their signatures. I will have to check it out. She won't be playing any high end games.
I installed cm9 and gapps then repartitioned the internal memory. Everything seemed to go fine but I can't see the internal memory from my pc. Unless I have an sd card mounted it doesn't even give me the option to turn on usb storage. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
For rock solid stability, since it would be used by your daughter, stick to stock firmware, root and install gapps via memory card the img file and apps are posted in relevant thread in development section for rooting 1.4.2. than install a launcher of your choice i prefer holo launcher as it gives the ics feel. All other builds cm7 and cm9 are battery suckers.
All roms dont support micro sd and internal memory together Stick to stock firmware. Try disabling adb debugging mode to enable usb file transfer.
I guess if i would open my eyes I would have noticed it is listed as a known cm9 problem. I really like the look of cm9 but think I'm gonna have to wait till they get a few more things working. I never really considered stock with another launcher. I may play around with that a bit and see what I like. Thanks for the suggestion.
Ok, first off I want to give a big thanks to digixmax for all his help so far! His quick responses have helped me to stay somewhat calm even though I am extremely frustrated right now. I have tried several different ways to root and boot CWM and CM 10.X onto my NT the last few days and nothing seems to be working. I have tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098419, http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/cm10-1-android-4-2-1-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet-0110/, and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529553 all with no success. i have used different cards, usb cables, and ports. i have used mini tool partition manager, acronis, gparted on ubuntu live, and fedora core that i have dual loaded on my laptop. i have downloaded the same files from different sources making sure to keep them separated in case one image is corrupt. and i have tried the preloaded image and built my own files onto a partitioned card making sure the card was set to FAT32 primary active 0x0C LBA and that boot was flagged. if anyone else has a suggestion i am all ears. im not opposed to just rooting into the eMMC either if someone wants to point me in the direction of a link with CM7.X or newer. the last build that i did on my sdcard looked like this (attachment below )
im not sure if anyone will be able to tell me if i did something wrong, maybe by file size? if more info is needed let me know. thanks in advance!
It's unclear to me what you want to do. Do you want to run CM10.x from sd card or install it internally? Or juts root? "Root" does not mea installing an alternative ROM, so it would be good to know what you're after.
If you want to run from sd Iamafanof's images should work. Personally I prefer his Android 4.1. Try it:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/ (It was not among those you said you've tried)
If it's not working, come back with more info on what you actually do and what happens (or doesn't happen).
If trying to install internally that image from Iamafanof can be used as a bootable CWM sd card and you can install CM10.x from there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43871774&postcount=2
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It's unclear to me what you want to do. Do you want to run CM10.x from sd card or install it internally? Or juts root? "Root" does not mea installing an alternative ROM, so it would be good to know what you're after.
If you want to run from sd Iamafanof's images should work. Personally I prefer his Android 4.1. Try it:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/ (It was not among those you said you've tried)
If it's not working, come back with more info on what you actually do and what happens (or doesn't happen).
If trying to install internally that image from Iamafanof can be used as a bootable CWM sd card and you can install CM10.x from there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43871774&postcount=2
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i was trying to root and rom CMsomething. at this point i dont care how it happens so long as something happens. your right i havent tried booting CM 10 and was actually looking for the version you posted. i read it was a good ver of CM to run on the NT. something that just started happening this morning when i use win32diskimager as admin a box pops up saying File error an error occured while accessing the device. This usually means that something else is accessing the device, please close all applications and try again. Error 1. Incorrect function. not sure what this is about. anyways ill try CM10 from that link and let post back later. thanks!
Make sure any file explorer is closed. That's what usually prompts that error for me. (I insert my card adapter, and the file explorer tries to access it.)
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Make sure any file explorer is closed. That's what usually prompts that error for me. (I insert my card adapter, and the file explorer tries to access it.)
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ok that helped some. its now saying write successful again. i tried the first link you gave me for iamafanof and that didnt work either, it still booted straight to stock. i guess im going to try flashing it to the internal memory. i cant believe how much trouble this is giving me, ive never had near this much trouble rooting and flashing with any phone ive ever touched. with the phones i may have been down a day or two trying to find a solution but today is going on day 4 or 5 that i have been trying to do this. time to try an alt route i guess. quick q, if i were to try and downgrade firmware from 1.4.3 do you think that that would help? has anyone tried this?
Having it installed internally is so much more convenient!
But before you give up on booting from sd, have you tried turning the NT off, inserting the sd card, and then plug it in to the charger? That usually gets even troublesome devices to boot from sd.
Edit: Version of stock firmaware makes no difference at all.
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Having it installed internally is so much more convenient!
But before you give up on booting from sd, have you tried turning the NT off, inserting the sd card, and then plug it in to the charger? That usually gets even troublesome devices to boot from sd.
Edit: Version of stock firmaware makes no difference at all.
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ok thanks i was hoping it would make some kind of difference. i have tried booting the NT with the power button, with it off insert sd and then jump start it with my stock cable and other usb cables. i have tried different usb ports on my computer with the cables and still nothing. i have been reading for days and trying everything. ive looked on xda, tabletroms, as well as many other sites that have dev support for the NT and rooting. thats why its so frustrating. im done i think with trying to boot off of the sd card. just going to have to start researching doing it by internal memory. i dont really care either way if i keep the stock software i think i would just be happy with even an early version of froyo or eclair at this point lol. if anyone cares to post links on rooting and installing roms on the eMMC or has any other suggestions about booting from the sd im open for suggestions. thanks guys for your help so far.
You say you've tried different ports on the computer but I told you to connect it to the charger. And also, just to make sure, you do use a class 4 card? SanDisk seems to be the preferred brand.
And I've already posted a link to my instructions.
If you can't boot from SD card any modification will be difficult so you need to get that part sorted.
Edit: And I also take it you are absolutely sure you have a Tablet and not a Color? Model 250A. I ask because it's not uncommon people mix them up.
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