Hi
I have recently rooted my Galaxy s2 and now im looking for a different rom but there is so many to choose from and so many old threads with roms in them i have not got a clue what to choose from. Idealy im looking for a rom that will help give me longer batter life, a better wifi signal and somthing that i can add themes to.
I also have 2 questions i would like answered before i continue with a new rom.
1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
Any advice or appropriate links would be appreciated.
tmmv1 said:
Hi
I have recently rooted my Galaxy s2 and now im looking for a different rom but there is so many to choose from and so many old threads with roms in them i have not got a clue what to choose from. Idealy im looking for a rom that will help give me longer batter life, a better wifi signal and somthing that i can add themes to.
I also have 2 questions i would like answered before i continue with a new rom.
1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Check if it is i9100 or i9100G. In case, it's i9100G then mate, you don't have much to choose from. If it's i9100 then you will have to try different rom and kernel combination to suit your need, everyone has different battery life for every other user. You can start off with Checkrom, it's quite great, I'm using it. Irrespective of the rom, read first page and last 5 pages of the thread so that you know what to expect, problem wise and function wise. Read, read and read carefully before doing anything.
iekansh said:
Check if it is i9100 or i9100G. In case, it's i9100G then mate, you don't have much to choose from. If it's i9100 then you will have to try different rom and kernel combination to suit your need, everyone has different battery life for every other user. You can start off with Checkrom, it's quite great, I'm using it. Irrespective of the rom, read first page and last 5 pages of the thread so that you know what to expect, problem wise and function wise. Read, read and read carefully before doing anything.
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Thanks for the fast reply and advice mate
I just checked and im on the GT-I9100 model. The Kernal i am currently using is cwm
tmmv1 said:
Thanks for the fast reply and advice mate
I just checked and im on the GT-I9100 model. The Kernal i am currently using is cwm
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lool i think ur getting a bit confused mate.
cwm isnt a kernel, its a program allowing u to flash zips.
i imagine ur running stock right?
then ur kernel will be stock.
i reccomend either checkrom v6 or if ur feeling daring ICS roms r pretty gd aswell
CWM is not a kernel its a function inside the kernel mate
you need to decide wether you want ICS or GB
for ICS i'd reccomend XXLPH stock ROM its the best rom i've tried for 4.0.3
and for GB you can go for Checkrom V6 i've heard its pretty awesome ( i tried v4 myself but didnt like the battery life)
adamski123 said:
lool i think ur getting a bit confused mate.
cwm isnt a kernel, its a program allowing u to flash zips.
i imagine ur running stock right?
then ur kernel will be stock.
i reccomend either checkrom v6 or if ur feeling daring ICS roms r pretty gd aswell
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Oh Rite lol I guess i should be sent to the youtube clip for xda again.
So let me get this rite
When i start my phone and choose the up+home+ start button i see a menu called clockwork recovery v4.0.0.2 this is a kernal?
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Oh Rite lol I guess i should be sent to the youtube clip for xda again.
So let me get this rite
When i start my phone and choose the up+home+ start button i see a menu called clockwork recovery v4.0.0.2 this is a kernal?
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no, the kernel is wen u go into about phone and go to kernel version. It will then display it underneath.
Wat rom r u running?
did u buy the phone from the shop or somewhere else?
>1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
>2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
I've tested the ICS stock rom and a few others but for now settled for the "Resurrection Remix ics v9.3 black edition XXLPH 4.0.3 FULL-Wipe" and I'm very satisfied.
Battery wise it a lot better and the interface seems snappier and not as bloated as the original rom.
RorixRebel said:
CWM is not a kernel its a function inside the kernel mate
you need to decide wether you want ICS or GB
for ICS i'd reccomend XXLPH stock ROM its the best rom i've tried for 4.0.3
and for GB you can go for Checkrom V6 i've heard its pretty awesome ( i tried v4 myself but didnt like the battery life)
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Chears mate.
From my point of view reading all the threads and topics regarding kernals and roms is a bit mind messing because there is so many too choose from
ok do the following, grab your phone - > dialer - > *#1234#
this will display PDA,CSC and Phone, this will provide the rom you are running for further reference
then into settings->about phone->kernel version ( must be something since you have root and CWM, im guessing chainfire kernel)
with that information we can provide you a better help
See my sig. Best Rom by far that I have tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
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no, the kernel is wen u go into about phone and go to kernel version. It will then display it underneath.
Wat rom r u running?
did u buy the phone from the shop or somewhere else?
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This is the thread i followed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
This is what i installed
http://download.chainfire.eu/39/CF-Root/SGS2/CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KI3-v4.1-CWM4.zip
I bought the phone from a family member
tmmv1 said:
Hi
I have recently rooted my Galaxy s2 and now im looking for a different rom but there is so many to choose from and so many old threads with roms in them i have not got a clue what to choose from. Idealy im looking for a rom that will help give me longer batter life, a better wifi signal and somthing that i can add themes to.
I also have 2 questions i would like answered before i continue with a new rom.
1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
Any advice or appropriate links would be appreciated.
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I think if you are confused with the diffrences between kernel and cmw, i am pretty sure you are confussed about a lot of other things. So i think some reading is in order -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
This is a very good guide to read and their are other links within that thread to look through too. We all start not knowing what to do but lots of reading always helps, i hope it all goes well for you.
P.S. I am using ICS CM9 Codeworkx and it's a great rom, very stable even for a new user of custom roms.
as i thought you have a CF-Root so you are rooted and with CWM, on your app drawer you should have the CWM icon.
So you are ready to flash mate
you have to pick a ROM
for ICS i recommend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292825
for GB try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
in both scenarios you have to download the files and place them inside your phone via usb on a folder, then go into CWM mode and pick the option "install zip from sdcard" navigate inside your folders and pick the file you downloaded.....couple mins later you flashed succesfully your phone
cheers
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as i thought you have a CF-Root so you are rooted and with CWM, on your app drawer you should have the CWM icon.
So you are ready to flash mate
you have to pick a ROM
for ICS i recommend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292825
for GB try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
in both scenarios you have to download the files and place them inside your phone via usb on a folder, they go into CWM mode and pick the option "install zip from sdcard" navigate inside your folders and pick the file you downloaded.....couple mins later you flashed succesfully your phone
cheers
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Yeh
Wat he said^^
But makev uve read everything and know wat to do before flashing.
Good luck
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RorixRebel said:
as i thought you have a CF-Root so you are rooted and with CWM, on your app drawer you should have the CWM icon.
So you are ready to flash mate
you have to pick a ROM
for ICS i recommend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292825
for GB try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
in both scenarios you have to download the files and place them inside your phone via usb on a folder, they go into CWM mode and pick the option "install zip from sdcard" navigate inside your folders and pick the file you downloaded.....couple mins later you flashed succesfully your phone
cheers
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Thanks mate. I did get confussed with my replies but i had a feeling i did install a kernal so thanks for verifying it for me
What is the difference between the Ics and GB please?
The Kernal im using can be kept while changing roms yeah? or do i have to change kernals for certain roms ?
tmmv1 said:
Thanks mate. I did get confussed with my replies but i had a feeling i did install a kernal so thanks for verifying it for me
What is the difference between the Ics and GB please?
The Kernal im using can be kept while changing roms yeah? or do i have to change kernals for certain roms ?
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Thank you everyone for your support and patience
the difference...amm you will need to youtube or google that as they are tons of different things, ICS is faster, smoother and damn good looking for me at least. Ill never go back to GB once i tasted the ICS
the kernels used for both ICS and GB are different each rom has its own kernel where the dev tested it works correctly, you could change them but if you flash a kernel you shouldn't or if its not compatible with the rom you might regret that
stick with the kernels included in the roms unless you are 100% sure they can work on the rom you pick
oh and one last thing before flashing stuff wipe your phone, its done inside CWM there's an option which says "wipe data/factory reset" and also wipe your dalvik cache inside CWM as well on "advanced->wipe dalvik cache"
hope it helped mate
RorixRebel said:
the difference...amm you will need to youtube or google that as they are tons of different things, ICS is faster, smoother and damn good looking for me at least. Ill never go back to GB once i tasted the ICS
the kernels used for both ICS and GB are different each rom has its own kernel where the dev tested it works correctly, you could change them but if you flash a kernel you shouldn't or if its not compatible with the rom you might regret that
stick with the kernels included in the roms unless you are 100% sure they can work on the rom you pick
oh and one last thing before flashing stuff wipe your phone, its done inside CWM there's an option which says "wipe data/factory reset" and also wipe your dalvik cache inside CWM as well on "advanced->wipe dalvik cache"
hope it helped mate
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So the roms have there own kernels in? just to verify please?
im a little outdated on kernels but last time i checked there were kernels for GB and kernels for ICS. not sure if they work on both operative systems now
still, stick with the kerneles included in the roms, they are tested and included in the roms cause they work, by your question i feel you are concerned about losing CWM
worry not mate, CWM is present in all of the rooted kernels
cheers
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Hello everyone! I recently began contemplating rooting and doing custom installs for my 959, for something fresh and better performing, also seems my music player has been acting up recently and am really interested in something new along with voodoo sound... If necessary anymore ? Thing is, there are so many ways to root, and there are so many custom roms??? I don't know where to start or what to look for? I just want one of the better, stable, new custom roms available as of this date for the t-959. I search but seems there's no definitive answer? Just a lot of roms haha?
Also when downloading a rom, do I have to download like 30-40-50 kernels and add them? I see all these roms, kernels and update??? Is it just download a rom and that's it, am I making more of it than it should be?
I'm just really noob'ish, really confused, and really, really nervous! I can't afford to brick this phone, but I really want something new.
Thanks for reading, and I apologize for some of the silly questions I have asked .
I fell in love with rom flashing as it greatly improves performance and gives phone a new look. Especially since Vibrant isn't supported anymore.. I can't live without voodoo goodies=) Definitely improves sound.
Negative side of custom roms is it takes up some of your time.. Finding a rom you like, tweaking it.. Not too mention you might brick you phone.
If you decide so.. the most important thing is always read OP...
I used superoneclick to root. I recommend Bionix 1.3.1 as a first rom very stable though a bit outdated. After playing around with the rom, you can try different 2.2 kernels and modems. Then go on to gingerbread roms.=)
Extremely easy. I'd suggest reading some of my guides in my signature.
I would Odin
Then download a ROM (nothing else needed)
Download my option b update.zip
Move both to internal sd
Reboot into recovery
Click reinstall packages
Choose to install zip from sd, select ROM, reboot.
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s15274n said:
Extremely easy. I'd suggest reading some of my guides in my signature.
I would Odin
Then download a ROM (nothing else needed)
Download my option b update.zip
Move both to internal sd
Reboot into recovery
Click reinstall packages
Choose to install zip from sd, select ROM, reboot.
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Thank you trailblazer and thanks s15....
Any roms you would recommend s15? I appreciate the starting rom you gave me Trail, I'm looking for something a little more up to date I suppose? I was looking at cm7 or Simply Honey 5.0 Revolution(JVR GB 2.3.4)? Something with voodoo already in it? Something pretty stable with a bit of features. Maybe a lil less lag than stock 2.2, better performance, audio and battery life as well?
Thanks so much again both!
cm7 in nightlies still, though seem pretty stable, i havent tried for a while. Lots of features though dont think battery too great.
Simply Honey is a good one, stable, lots of features, great developer support.
I'm currently on RevolutionRom 2.3.4, stable and smooth for me, only bad is itfreezes like once or twice a day. More of a sgs2 look which i like. Good battery.
FYI Flashing Gingerbread roms, you will need to flash gingerbread bootloaders to remove rainbows and see recovery ( theres a post on it)
Also GPS isn't stable on gingerbread.
trailblazerz11 said:
cm7 in nightlies still, though seem pretty stable, i havent tried for a while. Lots of features though dont think battery too great.
Simply Honey is a good one, stable, lots of features, great developer support.
I'm currently on RevolutionRom 2.3.4, stable and smooth for me, only bad is itfreezes like once or twice a day. More of a sgs2 look which i like. Good battery.
FYI Flashing Gingerbread roms, you will need to flash gingerbread bootloaders to remove rainbows and see recovery ( theres a post on it)
Also GPS isn't stable on gingerbread.
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I think I'm gonna try the simply honey one or wait till he does a final release?, as for the bootloaders, what do I do or go to there? Also for the kernels, do I need to download one for simply honey? Should I download one for it?
I seen some roms or kernel can improve wifi and signal? Is that true, if so point me in that direction hahaha...
Thanks so much bro by the way.
search for Vibrant gingerbread bootloader, it's flashable via odin..simply honey roms comes with bullet kernel & there's Simply Honey Talon Kernel build by simone201 =)
Thanks man, do you mind if I ask which one you would recommend (Odin or Clockwork?)... I stumbled upon this youtube how to called "Custom ROM installation tutorial for the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant)", and was just wondering if I can apply all his methods to SH 5.0? Sorry tried to link it but cannot due to my post count... Oh and when I'm done, how should I proceed with the new talon kernel?
Also if there's a new release of honey or the final release, say I installed this one... Do I have to do it all over again? Same wit kernels? Finally, do I need to revert my unrooted stock 2.2 froyo back to a previous version before gingerbread or any of this?
Thanks for your reply. I'm actually feeling like it's almost go time with this rom and kernel haha. Really thanks heaps!
D bootloader is only flashable by odin..you can read the OP for simply honey, what you need is all in there in d development area..flash kernel that works 4ur phone u decide on that wether bullet or talon..you can use sgs kernel flasher to switch bet the two..
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Djhemz07 said:
D bootloader is only flashable by odin..you can read the OP for simply honey, what you need is all in there in d development area..flash kernel that works 4ur phone u decide on that wether bullet or talon..you can use sgs kernel flasher to switch bet the two..
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One last question before I do this, I seen SH 5.1, but I seen it was for the i9000? Which one should be used? or the one you may recommend? Im looking for voodoo sound controls.
Thanks
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Nevermind I read it will be up tomorrow... gonna do 5.1, this is pretty exciting as long as I don't screw anything up hahaha
i reverted back to stock firmware via odin and one click rooted my phone, factory wiped all data and now I remember after I rooted my phone I had unzipped file in my sd card and it told me that i can just delete it after I was done, well i did and then watched a video on clockwork that said not to delete it?
EDIT: Nevermind I fixed it, I just unrooted and rooted again...
So sorry for being a pain, I know you guys have better things to do.
3 questions and this thread is done... thanks for the help...
1. Does the market work on simply honey? Like can go in and search and download it like usual?
2. should I use odin to install 5.1 or cw?
3. how does the kb5 work? is that like default or do i have to flash it?
Thanks a million in advance!
Hi I've bought myself the SGS2 (non-G version).
now, to root, do I use the method here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
and let's say i have rooted it using CF-root 5.2, do I just pick a ROM and start flashing them? Or do I proceed to flash a Custom Kernel first before the ROM?
Anyway, I noticed that there are 2 sections for the SGS2G and the SGS2 (non-G). Which ROMS do I select from and are the ROMS variant dependent? means if I have the non-G version, I cannot install a ROM from the SGS2 Original section? A little help please! So sorry for being a noob.
Yes follow those rooting instructions, after the phone is rooted download a rom and copy it to your phone then flash it via cmw or manually via recovery mode, reboot while holding power, home and volume up.
Personally I recommend bezke UltraIcs, using it without issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393569
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adrianj said:
Hi I've bought myself the SGS2 (non-G version).
now, to root, do I use the method here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
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1st thing you do: read, read, read.
You can use whatever root method you feel comfortable with. I've used CF-Root, Odia's insecure kernels, SuperOneClick, and flashing Siyah kernel. They all work fine.
adrianj said:
and let's say i have rooted it using CF-root 5.2, do I just pick a ROM and start flashing them? Or do I proceed to flash a Custom Kernel first before the ROM?
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Most ROMs come with their own kernels, so if you flash a custom kernel, then a ROM, then the kernel that came with the ROM will overwrite whatever custom kernel you flashed first.
adrianj said:
Anyway, I noticed that there are 2 sections for the SGS2G and the SGS2 (non-G). Which ROMS do I select from and are the ROMS variant dependent? means if I have the non-G version, I cannot install a ROM from the SGS2 Original section? A little help please! So sorry for being a noob.
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What 2 sections do you mean? The Galaxy S II Original Android Development, and the Galaxy S II Android Development forums?
It's important to note that these are not G and non-G. Original means developed from the ground up. (think CyanogenMod) The non-original generally means derivative from another ROM - usually stock.
I9100G ROMs are scattered throughout the I9100 forums, because there is currently no separate forum for the I9100G. The post title for these ROMs should always note that they are for the I9100G instead of the I9100 though. As long as you follow my suggestion for 1st of all above, you should be fine.
If you have the i9100g choose the roms that clearly indicates i9100G only in title, otherwise it should work just fine for i9100. Roms in original development indicate roms built completely by the developer hence the original. The Android development roms are roms that could be based off of someone else' rom or similar. You can flash roms from either section.
Just make sure to properly flash them and never forget to make a backup.
Edit: ctomgee answered.
Kaze105 said:
If you have the i9100g choose the roms that clearly indicates i9100G only in title, otherwise it should work just fine for i9100. Roms in original development indicate roms built completely by the developer hence the original. The Android development roms are roms that could be based off of someone else' rom or similar. You can flash roms from either section.
Just make sure to properly flash them and never forget to make a backup.
Edit: ctomgee answered.
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Beat you by 2 min. It was a long post though, so it took me a while.
simbesh said:
Yes follow those rooting instructions, after the phone is rooted download a rom and copy it to your phone then flash it via cmw or manually via recovery mode, reboot while holding power, home and volume up.
Personally I recommend bezke UltraIcs, using it without issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393569
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I'm downloading as we speak! Seems good! Love the ICS theme though. Are u using a custom kernel?
ctomgee said:
1st thing you do: read, read, read.
You can use whatever root method you feel comfortable with. I've used CF-Root, Odia's insecure kernels, SuperOneClick, and flashing Siyah kernel. They all work fine.
Most ROMs come with their own kernels, so if you flash a custom kernel, then a ROM, then the kernel that came with the ROM will overwrite whatever custom kernel you flashed first.
What 2 sections do you mean? The Galaxy S II Original Android Development, and the Galaxy S II Android Development forums?
It's important to note that these are not G and non-G. Original means developed from the ground up. (think CyanogenMod) The non-original generally means derivative from another ROM - usually stock.
I9100G ROMs are scattered throughout the I9100 forums, because there is currently no separate forum for the I9100G. The post title for these ROMs should always note that they are for the I9100G instead of the I9100 though. As long as you follow my suggestion for 1st of all above, you should be fine.
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Thank you so much for the prompt reply! Finally I've got the answers to my questions! Btw, what ROM are you currently using? What I'm particularly concerned about is the custom Kernel that can help me optimize my battery.
adrianj said:
I'm downloading as we speak! Seems good! Love the ICS theme though. Are u using a custom kernel?
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Please be aware that though simbesh said he is using it without issues, ICS is NOT officially released. Some users have issues with ICS ROMs that others use with absolutely no problems.
As Kaze105 said, ALWAYS make sure you make a backup before you flash. (in case you need to go back)
adrianj said:
I'm downloading as we speak! Seems good! Love the ICS theme though. Are u using a custom kernel?
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Nice, yea the ics theme is very slick. It was updated this morning to v2.1 with the latest i9100 kernal XXLPB
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simbesh said:
Nice, yea the ics theme is very slick. It was updated this morning to v2.1 with the latest i9100 kernal XXLPB
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nice! this will be my first ever custom rom! this rom is for the i9100 (non-G) right? cuz it didn't say 'G' in the title. just making sure.
ctomgee said:
As Kaze105 said, ALWAYS make sure you make a backup before you flash. (in case you need to go back)
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This this this
Yes standard i9100, it will be very clear if its i9100G or i9100 at&t etc if its a special rom
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ctomgee said:
Please be aware that though simbesh said he is using it without issues, ICS is NOT officially released. Some users have issues with ICS ROMs that others use with absolutely no problems.
As Kaze105 said, ALWAYS make sure you make a backup before you flash. (in case you need to go back)
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and by making a backup, i use the CWM nandroid backup? to restore from back up is through the same CWM?
adrianj said:
Thank you so much for the prompt reply! Finally I've got the answers to my questions! Btw, what ROM are you currently using? What I'm particularly concerned about is the custom Kernel that can help me optimize my battery.
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I am on stock XXKI3, which is 2.3.5, with Siyah Kernel 2.6.4. There are newer firmwares, and newer versions of Siyah, but I feel no need to upgrade as of now. I've modded my firmware myself pretty heavily, and prefer to do all the tweaks myself. Helps me understand how my phone works better.
If you're interested in a kernel that will help with battery, look at SpeedMod, then maybe Siyah. SpeedMod users swear by their battery life. I use Siyah because it has more features, and has more customization. But it's a preference thing.
adrianj said:
and by making a backup, i use the CWM nandroid backup? to restore from back up is through the same CWM?
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Correct
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adrianj said:
and by making a backup, i use the CWM nandroid backup? to restore from back up is through the same CWM?
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Yes, should be. Though be careful - flashing some kernels automatically installs certain versions of CWM. If your backup is made in a different version of CWM than what you are trying to restore from, it may not work.
ctomgee said:
I am on stock XXKI3, which is 2.3.5, with Siyah Kernel 2.6.4. There are newer firmwares, and newer versions of Siyah, but I feel no need to upgrade as of now. I've modded my firmware myself pretty heavily, and prefer to do all the tweaks myself. Helps me understand how my phone works better.
If you're interested in a kernel that will help with battery, look at SpeedMod, then maybe Siyah. SpeedMod users swear by their battery life. I use Siyah because it has more features, and has more customization. But it's a preference thing.
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seems pretty interesting the way you mod your phone! and by modding the phone yourself, you mean you take apart tweaks from different ROMs and install them in your phone? I hope im not imposing but do you mind sharing with me the tweaks that you have done to your stock rom? i might do the same if the ICS rom doesn't work the way i want it to.
adrianj said:
seems pretty interesting the way you mod your phone! and by modding the phone yourself, you mean you take apart tweaks from different ROMs and install them in your phone? I hope im not imposing but do you mind sharing with me the tweaks that you have done to your stock rom? i might do the same if the ICS rom doesn't work the way i want it to.
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The more involved mods I have are:
Phone.apk tweaked to have Noise Reduction off by default in phone calls
Battery icon with % in status bar
CRT-off animation on screen off
Rotation animation in UI
The first three involved decompiling the files involved, editing the files, and recompiling. The rotation animation involved downloading some files that another kind soul posted that were from the Galaxy Note and installing them on my phone in place of the files that were already there. All require root. You can find all of these in the forums with a search...
Wow. I just hit 500 posts. Crazy.
ctomgee said:
The more involved mods I have are:
Phone.apk tweaked to have Noise Reduction off by default in phone calls
Battery icon with % in status bar
CRT-off animation on screen off
Rotation animation in UI
The first three involved decompiling the files involved, editing the files, and recompiling. The rotation animation involved downloading some files that another kind soul posted that were from the Galaxy Note and installing them on my phone in place of the files that were already there. All require root. You can find all of these in the forums with a search...
Wow. I just hit 500 posts. Crazy.
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congrats on your posts! anyway, those mods are build dependent? or universal?
adrianj said:
congrats on your posts! anyway, those mods are build dependent? or universal?
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The first three I think are build dependent. Some people have tried different versions on other firmwares and had some success, but others, not so much.
The rotation animation one, I'm not sure about.
Hi everyone! I've had for an year an amazing Nexus S (aw.. so google..) and now I'm a very happy owner of a GSII (so freakin' fast!). I thouhgt to keep the telephone with the original rom waiting for ICS but... when I saw the so HEAVY personalization by samsung! Sigh... it's so Gingerbread! it even seems ICS!
Now the question.. I've seen so many acronyms near the roms. What they stand for? I mean like XXLPQ, LPQ, LPE, XXLPH or stuff like that.
And what if I would put on a rom that is PURE GOOGLE? I saw the WanamLite, is it stable/fast/daily-use? Do you suggest this or other roms?
How to install cooked roms? With the NS you have to unlock the bootloader, install the cwm and you're done. Do you have to unlock the bl with the GSII? Can I install the cwm with rom manager and then I'm done?
THANKS A LOT!
Enrichman said:
Hi everyone! I've had for an year an amazing Nexus S (aw.. so google..) and now I'm a very happy owner of a GSII (so freakin' fast!). I thouhgt to keep the telephone with the original rom waiting for ICS but... when I saw the so HEAVY personalization by samsung! Sigh... it's so Gingerbread! it even seems ICS!
Now the question.. I've seen so many acronyms near the roms. What they stand for? I mean like XXLPQ, LPQ, LPE, XXLPH or stuff like that.
And what if I would put on a rom that is PURE GOOGLE? I saw the WanamLite, is it stable/fast/daily-use? Do you suggest this or other roms?
How to install cooked roms? With the NS you have to unlock the bootloader, install the cwm and you're done. Do you have to unlock the bl with the GSII? Can I install the cwm with rom manager and then I'm done?
THANKS A LOT!
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Try westcrips resurrection remix 9.7 very smooth ICS experience can't fault it been using every version since he started give it a try I'm sure you won't be disappointed
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Now the question.. I've seen so many acronyms near the roms. What they stand for? I mean like XXLPQ, LPQ, LPE, XXLPH or stuff like that.
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That is the firmware version and/or region. Latest is ICS XXLPQ.
I suggest you Checkrom v6 (soon ICS!) is the most stable popular and stable rom around.
Thanks, but how? xD
As I said I don't have idea. Any bootloader to unlock? Just download rom manager and install the cwm?
Start with the faqs guides and other stuff all sticked at the top of the page .
Now the question.. I've seen so many acronyms near the roms. What they stand for? I mean like XXLPQ, LPQ, LPE, XXLPH or stuff like that.
Stock Roms .and csc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
How to install cooked roms?
Follow the instructions for each cooked rom basic is flash via CWM recovery for most .
Rom MaNAGER GIVES PROBLEMS ON sgs2 .
jje
Just find correct cf-root for you phone to get root and cwm, also only rom's for sgs2 that have stock ics look are cm9 and bezke ics (which I can't get to boot)
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Thanks, but how? xD
As I said I don't have idea. Any bootloader to unlock? Just download rom manager and install the cwm?
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galaxy phones can be tricky if you came from a nexus. Basically you have to read the FAQs, but in terms of flashing stuff the biggest difference is that the recovery and kernel are linked. You can't flash a separate recovery, and that's why you can't use clockworkmod.
There is no bootloader unlock thingy also. But you'll need Odin instead.
Keeps these points on mind and then read the FAQs again. And good luck!
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Check out galaxys2root.com. It has detailed video tutorials on everything you need.
I bought my GS2 only 5 days ago and already went through installing Resurection remix 9.4, 9.6 and 9.7 and loving it
I've just installed the Omega V5.0 ICS ROM and its awesome, and is based off the XXLPQ firmware
Method,
I started from a 2.3.5 firmware, rooted it using a cf-root-sgs2_xx_oxa_ki3-v4.1-cwm4.zip and odin.
I copied the Omega zip rom to my sd card, rebooted into clock work recovery (the chainfire kernel installed clockwork automatically)
Followed the instructions for doing the thee wipes on the Omega home page.
and did the install from the sd card.
Hope that helps some...
Obivously every custom rom has its own instructions.
Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
We only have 2 options, Entropy or Siyah and they do not include a modem.
Check the dev section for kernels & modems.
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Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
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Both kernels we have offer oc abilities.
Personally I would look at stability and battery life but that is just me. Try both and see which suits your needs.
Modems are not associated with kernel and depend on your area. Whichever works the best where you are.
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
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Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
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Thanks for the quick response chris,
I guess what I'm asking is if I have a rom with the Syiah kernal, is it possible to keep that same ROM but swap kernals, sorry, I just wasn't clear on what your answer meant.
I'm guessing your saying it is indeed possible and just flash the .zip for a different Kernal on top of an already installed ROM.
Sorry, I'm tired...
Changing the Kernel on 2.3.4 & 2.3.6 roms will not break anything.
For CM7, CM9, MIUI etc you have to stick with what is included or see what works with it.
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We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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For example, latest Siyah with touch recovery. Awesome for flashaholics.
Your talking of version .14 I assume, if so, doesn't it say in .13 description that .13 would be the last for Gingerbread?
Obviously it works if your using it, so i'm gonna download now...
I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
MetaMav said:
I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape