What to look for in a kernal - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?

We only have 2 options, Entropy or Siyah and they do not include a modem.
Check the dev section for kernels & modems.

butikofer08 said:
Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
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Both kernels we have offer oc abilities.
Personally I would look at stability and battery life but that is just me. Try both and see which suits your needs.
Modems are not associated with kernel and depend on your area. Whichever works the best where you are.

We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?

butikofer08 said:
So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.

LiLChris06 said:
Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
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Thanks for the quick response chris,
I guess what I'm asking is if I have a rom with the Syiah kernal, is it possible to keep that same ROM but swap kernals, sorry, I just wasn't clear on what your answer meant.
I'm guessing your saying it is indeed possible and just flash the .zip for a different Kernal on top of an already installed ROM.
Sorry, I'm tired...

Changing the Kernel on 2.3.4 & 2.3.6 roms will not break anything.
For CM7, CM9, MIUI etc you have to stick with what is included or see what works with it.

AntwanL said:
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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For example, latest Siyah with touch recovery. Awesome for flashaholics.

Your talking of version .14 I assume, if so, doesn't it say in .13 description that .13 would be the last for Gingerbread?
Obviously it works if your using it, so i'm gonna download now...

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[Q] What should I do once I have bought my SGS2 I9100 (non-G)

Hi I've bought myself the SGS2 (non-G version).
now, to root, do I use the method here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
and let's say i have rooted it using CF-root 5.2, do I just pick a ROM and start flashing them? Or do I proceed to flash a Custom Kernel first before the ROM?
Anyway, I noticed that there are 2 sections for the SGS2G and the SGS2 (non-G). Which ROMS do I select from and are the ROMS variant dependent? means if I have the non-G version, I cannot install a ROM from the SGS2 Original section? A little help please! So sorry for being a noob.
Yes follow those rooting instructions, after the phone is rooted download a rom and copy it to your phone then flash it via cmw or manually via recovery mode, reboot while holding power, home and volume up.
Personally I recommend bezke UltraIcs, using it without issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393569
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adrianj said:
Hi I've bought myself the SGS2 (non-G version).
now, to root, do I use the method here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
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1st thing you do: read, read, read.
You can use whatever root method you feel comfortable with. I've used CF-Root, Odia's insecure kernels, SuperOneClick, and flashing Siyah kernel. They all work fine.
adrianj said:
and let's say i have rooted it using CF-root 5.2, do I just pick a ROM and start flashing them? Or do I proceed to flash a Custom Kernel first before the ROM?
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Most ROMs come with their own kernels, so if you flash a custom kernel, then a ROM, then the kernel that came with the ROM will overwrite whatever custom kernel you flashed first.
adrianj said:
Anyway, I noticed that there are 2 sections for the SGS2G and the SGS2 (non-G). Which ROMS do I select from and are the ROMS variant dependent? means if I have the non-G version, I cannot install a ROM from the SGS2 Original section? A little help please! So sorry for being a noob.
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What 2 sections do you mean? The Galaxy S II Original Android Development, and the Galaxy S II Android Development forums?
It's important to note that these are not G and non-G. Original means developed from the ground up. (think CyanogenMod) The non-original generally means derivative from another ROM - usually stock.
I9100G ROMs are scattered throughout the I9100 forums, because there is currently no separate forum for the I9100G. The post title for these ROMs should always note that they are for the I9100G instead of the I9100 though. As long as you follow my suggestion for 1st of all above, you should be fine.
If you have the i9100g choose the roms that clearly indicates i9100G only in title, otherwise it should work just fine for i9100. Roms in original development indicate roms built completely by the developer hence the original. The Android development roms are roms that could be based off of someone else' rom or similar. You can flash roms from either section.
Just make sure to properly flash them and never forget to make a backup.
Edit: ctomgee answered.
Kaze105 said:
If you have the i9100g choose the roms that clearly indicates i9100G only in title, otherwise it should work just fine for i9100. Roms in original development indicate roms built completely by the developer hence the original. The Android development roms are roms that could be based off of someone else' rom or similar. You can flash roms from either section.
Just make sure to properly flash them and never forget to make a backup.
Edit: ctomgee answered.
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Beat you by 2 min. It was a long post though, so it took me a while.
simbesh said:
Yes follow those rooting instructions, after the phone is rooted download a rom and copy it to your phone then flash it via cmw or manually via recovery mode, reboot while holding power, home and volume up.
Personally I recommend bezke UltraIcs, using it without issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393569
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I'm downloading as we speak! Seems good! Love the ICS theme though. Are u using a custom kernel?
ctomgee said:
1st thing you do: read, read, read.
You can use whatever root method you feel comfortable with. I've used CF-Root, Odia's insecure kernels, SuperOneClick, and flashing Siyah kernel. They all work fine.
Most ROMs come with their own kernels, so if you flash a custom kernel, then a ROM, then the kernel that came with the ROM will overwrite whatever custom kernel you flashed first.
What 2 sections do you mean? The Galaxy S II Original Android Development, and the Galaxy S II Android Development forums?
It's important to note that these are not G and non-G. Original means developed from the ground up. (think CyanogenMod) The non-original generally means derivative from another ROM - usually stock.
I9100G ROMs are scattered throughout the I9100 forums, because there is currently no separate forum for the I9100G. The post title for these ROMs should always note that they are for the I9100G instead of the I9100 though. As long as you follow my suggestion for 1st of all above, you should be fine.
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Thank you so much for the prompt reply! Finally I've got the answers to my questions! Btw, what ROM are you currently using? What I'm particularly concerned about is the custom Kernel that can help me optimize my battery.
adrianj said:
I'm downloading as we speak! Seems good! Love the ICS theme though. Are u using a custom kernel?
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Please be aware that though simbesh said he is using it without issues, ICS is NOT officially released. Some users have issues with ICS ROMs that others use with absolutely no problems.
As Kaze105 said, ALWAYS make sure you make a backup before you flash. (in case you need to go back)
adrianj said:
I'm downloading as we speak! Seems good! Love the ICS theme though. Are u using a custom kernel?
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Nice, yea the ics theme is very slick. It was updated this morning to v2.1 with the latest i9100 kernal XXLPB
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simbesh said:
Nice, yea the ics theme is very slick. It was updated this morning to v2.1 with the latest i9100 kernal XXLPB
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nice! this will be my first ever custom rom! this rom is for the i9100 (non-G) right? cuz it didn't say 'G' in the title. just making sure.
ctomgee said:
As Kaze105 said, ALWAYS make sure you make a backup before you flash. (in case you need to go back)
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This this this
Yes standard i9100, it will be very clear if its i9100G or i9100 at&t etc if its a special rom
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ctomgee said:
Please be aware that though simbesh said he is using it without issues, ICS is NOT officially released. Some users have issues with ICS ROMs that others use with absolutely no problems.
As Kaze105 said, ALWAYS make sure you make a backup before you flash. (in case you need to go back)
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and by making a backup, i use the CWM nandroid backup? to restore from back up is through the same CWM?
adrianj said:
Thank you so much for the prompt reply! Finally I've got the answers to my questions! Btw, what ROM are you currently using? What I'm particularly concerned about is the custom Kernel that can help me optimize my battery.
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I am on stock XXKI3, which is 2.3.5, with Siyah Kernel 2.6.4. There are newer firmwares, and newer versions of Siyah, but I feel no need to upgrade as of now. I've modded my firmware myself pretty heavily, and prefer to do all the tweaks myself. Helps me understand how my phone works better.
If you're interested in a kernel that will help with battery, look at SpeedMod, then maybe Siyah. SpeedMod users swear by their battery life. I use Siyah because it has more features, and has more customization. But it's a preference thing.
adrianj said:
and by making a backup, i use the CWM nandroid backup? to restore from back up is through the same CWM?
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Correct
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adrianj said:
and by making a backup, i use the CWM nandroid backup? to restore from back up is through the same CWM?
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Yes, should be. Though be careful - flashing some kernels automatically installs certain versions of CWM. If your backup is made in a different version of CWM than what you are trying to restore from, it may not work.
ctomgee said:
I am on stock XXKI3, which is 2.3.5, with Siyah Kernel 2.6.4. There are newer firmwares, and newer versions of Siyah, but I feel no need to upgrade as of now. I've modded my firmware myself pretty heavily, and prefer to do all the tweaks myself. Helps me understand how my phone works better.
If you're interested in a kernel that will help with battery, look at SpeedMod, then maybe Siyah. SpeedMod users swear by their battery life. I use Siyah because it has more features, and has more customization. But it's a preference thing.
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seems pretty interesting the way you mod your phone! and by modding the phone yourself, you mean you take apart tweaks from different ROMs and install them in your phone? I hope im not imposing but do you mind sharing with me the tweaks that you have done to your stock rom? i might do the same if the ICS rom doesn't work the way i want it to.
adrianj said:
seems pretty interesting the way you mod your phone! and by modding the phone yourself, you mean you take apart tweaks from different ROMs and install them in your phone? I hope im not imposing but do you mind sharing with me the tweaks that you have done to your stock rom? i might do the same if the ICS rom doesn't work the way i want it to.
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The more involved mods I have are:
Phone.apk tweaked to have Noise Reduction off by default in phone calls
Battery icon with % in status bar
CRT-off animation on screen off
Rotation animation in UI
The first three involved decompiling the files involved, editing the files, and recompiling. The rotation animation involved downloading some files that another kind soul posted that were from the Galaxy Note and installing them on my phone in place of the files that were already there. All require root. You can find all of these in the forums with a search...
Wow. I just hit 500 posts. Crazy.
ctomgee said:
The more involved mods I have are:
Phone.apk tweaked to have Noise Reduction off by default in phone calls
Battery icon with % in status bar
CRT-off animation on screen off
Rotation animation in UI
The first three involved decompiling the files involved, editing the files, and recompiling. The rotation animation involved downloading some files that another kind soul posted that were from the Galaxy Note and installing them on my phone in place of the files that were already there. All require root. You can find all of these in the forums with a search...
Wow. I just hit 500 posts. Crazy.
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congrats on your posts! anyway, those mods are build dependent? or universal?
adrianj said:
congrats on your posts! anyway, those mods are build dependent? or universal?
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The first three I think are build dependent. Some people have tried different versions on other firmwares and had some success, but others, not so much.
The rotation animation one, I'm not sure about.

Rom! Rom! Rom! Which one ?

Hi
I have recently rooted my Galaxy s2 and now im looking for a different rom but there is so many to choose from and so many old threads with roms in them i have not got a clue what to choose from. Idealy im looking for a rom that will help give me longer batter life, a better wifi signal and somthing that i can add themes to.
I also have 2 questions i would like answered before i continue with a new rom.
1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
Any advice or appropriate links would be appreciated.
tmmv1 said:
Hi
I have recently rooted my Galaxy s2 and now im looking for a different rom but there is so many to choose from and so many old threads with roms in them i have not got a clue what to choose from. Idealy im looking for a rom that will help give me longer batter life, a better wifi signal and somthing that i can add themes to.
I also have 2 questions i would like answered before i continue with a new rom.
1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Check if it is i9100 or i9100G. In case, it's i9100G then mate, you don't have much to choose from. If it's i9100 then you will have to try different rom and kernel combination to suit your need, everyone has different battery life for every other user. You can start off with Checkrom, it's quite great, I'm using it. Irrespective of the rom, read first page and last 5 pages of the thread so that you know what to expect, problem wise and function wise. Read, read and read carefully before doing anything.
iekansh said:
Check if it is i9100 or i9100G. In case, it's i9100G then mate, you don't have much to choose from. If it's i9100 then you will have to try different rom and kernel combination to suit your need, everyone has different battery life for every other user. You can start off with Checkrom, it's quite great, I'm using it. Irrespective of the rom, read first page and last 5 pages of the thread so that you know what to expect, problem wise and function wise. Read, read and read carefully before doing anything.
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Thanks for the fast reply and advice mate
I just checked and im on the GT-I9100 model. The Kernal i am currently using is cwm
tmmv1 said:
Thanks for the fast reply and advice mate
I just checked and im on the GT-I9100 model. The Kernal i am currently using is cwm
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lool i think ur getting a bit confused mate.
cwm isnt a kernel, its a program allowing u to flash zips.
i imagine ur running stock right?
then ur kernel will be stock.
i reccomend either checkrom v6 or if ur feeling daring ICS roms r pretty gd aswell
CWM is not a kernel its a function inside the kernel mate
you need to decide wether you want ICS or GB
for ICS i'd reccomend XXLPH stock ROM its the best rom i've tried for 4.0.3
and for GB you can go for Checkrom V6 i've heard its pretty awesome ( i tried v4 myself but didnt like the battery life)
adamski123 said:
lool i think ur getting a bit confused mate.
cwm isnt a kernel, its a program allowing u to flash zips.
i imagine ur running stock right?
then ur kernel will be stock.
i reccomend either checkrom v6 or if ur feeling daring ICS roms r pretty gd aswell
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Oh Rite lol I guess i should be sent to the youtube clip for xda again.
So let me get this rite
When i start my phone and choose the up+home+ start button i see a menu called clockwork recovery v4.0.0.2 this is a kernal?
tmmv1 said:
Oh Rite lol I guess i should be sent to the youtube clip for xda again.
So let me get this rite
When i start my phone and choose the up+home+ start button i see a menu called clockwork recovery v4.0.0.2 this is a kernal?
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no, the kernel is wen u go into about phone and go to kernel version. It will then display it underneath.
Wat rom r u running?
did u buy the phone from the shop or somewhere else?
>1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
>2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
I've tested the ICS stock rom and a few others but for now settled for the "Resurrection Remix ics v9.3 black edition XXLPH 4.0.3 FULL-Wipe" and I'm very satisfied.
Battery wise it a lot better and the interface seems snappier and not as bloated as the original rom.
RorixRebel said:
CWM is not a kernel its a function inside the kernel mate
you need to decide wether you want ICS or GB
for ICS i'd reccomend XXLPH stock ROM its the best rom i've tried for 4.0.3
and for GB you can go for Checkrom V6 i've heard its pretty awesome ( i tried v4 myself but didnt like the battery life)
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Chears mate.
From my point of view reading all the threads and topics regarding kernals and roms is a bit mind messing because there is so many too choose from
ok do the following, grab your phone - > dialer - > *#1234#
this will display PDA,CSC and Phone, this will provide the rom you are running for further reference
then into settings->about phone->kernel version ( must be something since you have root and CWM, im guessing chainfire kernel)
with that information we can provide you a better help
See my sig. Best Rom by far that I have tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
adamski123 said:
no, the kernel is wen u go into about phone and go to kernel version. It will then display it underneath.
Wat rom r u running?
did u buy the phone from the shop or somewhere else?
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This is the thread i followed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
This is what i installed
http://download.chainfire.eu/39/CF-Root/SGS2/CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KI3-v4.1-CWM4.zip
I bought the phone from a family member
tmmv1 said:
Hi
I have recently rooted my Galaxy s2 and now im looking for a different rom but there is so many to choose from and so many old threads with roms in them i have not got a clue what to choose from. Idealy im looking for a rom that will help give me longer batter life, a better wifi signal and somthing that i can add themes to.
I also have 2 questions i would like answered before i continue with a new rom.
1st Question. I currently have firmware version 2.3.5 would i need a rom compatable with this firmware?
2nd Question. My build is Gingerbread would i also need a rom that is compatable with Gingerbread
Any advice or appropriate links would be appreciated.
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I think if you are confused with the diffrences between kernel and cmw, i am pretty sure you are confussed about a lot of other things. So i think some reading is in order -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
This is a very good guide to read and their are other links within that thread to look through too. We all start not knowing what to do but lots of reading always helps, i hope it all goes well for you.
P.S. I am using ICS CM9 Codeworkx and it's a great rom, very stable even for a new user of custom roms.
as i thought you have a CF-Root so you are rooted and with CWM, on your app drawer you should have the CWM icon.
So you are ready to flash mate
you have to pick a ROM
for ICS i recommend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292825
for GB try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
in both scenarios you have to download the files and place them inside your phone via usb on a folder, then go into CWM mode and pick the option "install zip from sdcard" navigate inside your folders and pick the file you downloaded.....couple mins later you flashed succesfully your phone
cheers
RorixRebel said:
as i thought you have a CF-Root so you are rooted and with CWM, on your app drawer you should have the CWM icon.
So you are ready to flash mate
you have to pick a ROM
for ICS i recommend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292825
for GB try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
in both scenarios you have to download the files and place them inside your phone via usb on a folder, they go into CWM mode and pick the option "install zip from sdcard" navigate inside your folders and pick the file you downloaded.....couple mins later you flashed succesfully your phone
cheers
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Yeh
Wat he said^^
But makev uve read everything and know wat to do before flashing.
Good luck
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RorixRebel said:
as i thought you have a CF-Root so you are rooted and with CWM, on your app drawer you should have the CWM icon.
So you are ready to flash mate
you have to pick a ROM
for ICS i recommend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292825
for GB try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
in both scenarios you have to download the files and place them inside your phone via usb on a folder, they go into CWM mode and pick the option "install zip from sdcard" navigate inside your folders and pick the file you downloaded.....couple mins later you flashed succesfully your phone
cheers
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Thanks mate. I did get confussed with my replies but i had a feeling i did install a kernal so thanks for verifying it for me
What is the difference between the Ics and GB please?
The Kernal im using can be kept while changing roms yeah? or do i have to change kernals for certain roms ?
tmmv1 said:
Thanks mate. I did get confussed with my replies but i had a feeling i did install a kernal so thanks for verifying it for me
What is the difference between the Ics and GB please?
The Kernal im using can be kept while changing roms yeah? or do i have to change kernals for certain roms ?
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Thank you everyone for your support and patience
the difference...amm you will need to youtube or google that as they are tons of different things, ICS is faster, smoother and damn good looking for me at least. Ill never go back to GB once i tasted the ICS
the kernels used for both ICS and GB are different each rom has its own kernel where the dev tested it works correctly, you could change them but if you flash a kernel you shouldn't or if its not compatible with the rom you might regret that
stick with the kernels included in the roms unless you are 100% sure they can work on the rom you pick
oh and one last thing before flashing stuff wipe your phone, its done inside CWM there's an option which says "wipe data/factory reset" and also wipe your dalvik cache inside CWM as well on "advanced->wipe dalvik cache"
hope it helped mate
RorixRebel said:
the difference...amm you will need to youtube or google that as they are tons of different things, ICS is faster, smoother and damn good looking for me at least. Ill never go back to GB once i tasted the ICS
the kernels used for both ICS and GB are different each rom has its own kernel where the dev tested it works correctly, you could change them but if you flash a kernel you shouldn't or if its not compatible with the rom you might regret that
stick with the kernels included in the roms unless you are 100% sure they can work on the rom you pick
oh and one last thing before flashing stuff wipe your phone, its done inside CWM there's an option which says "wipe data/factory reset" and also wipe your dalvik cache inside CWM as well on "advanced->wipe dalvik cache"
hope it helped mate
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So the roms have there own kernels in? just to verify please?
im a little outdated on kernels but last time i checked there were kernels for GB and kernels for ICS. not sure if they work on both operative systems now
still, stick with the kerneles included in the roms, they are tested and included in the roms cause they work, by your question i feel you are concerned about losing CWM
worry not mate, CWM is present in all of the rooted kernels
cheers

[Q] CM Kernel

I was going to flash CM9, but while reading through the page in the general section I came across this at the bottom:
Don't expect help if...
are not running stock cm-kernel
I searched for a CM kernel and didn't find anything. Doing my search, I noticed some mentioned that the kernel is built into the flash.
A: is that correct? If so, why would the specify you need to be running a CM-Kernel (Unless CM means Clockwork Mod?)
B: If not, where can I download this kernel at?
Thanks!
stalked_r/t said:
I was going to flash CM9, but while reading through the page in the general section I came across this at the bottom:
Don't expect help if...
are not running stock cm-kernel
I searched for a CM kernel and didn't find anything. Doing my search, I noticed some mentioned that the kernel is built into the flash.
A: is that correct? If so, why would the specify you need to be running a CM-Kernel (Unless CM means Clockwork Mod?)
B: If not, where can I download this kernel at?
Thanks!
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Because there are other kernels out there that's why. They'll only give you support if you're running the kernel that comes with the rom
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Nick281051 said:
Because there are other kernels out there that's why. They'll only give you support if you're running the kernel that comes with the rom
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Ok. so option "A" is correct then. Since I'm running Entropy's daily, by flashing the zip, it will automatically replace the kernel I'm running. They just don't want people going in behind their install and throwin in their kernel of choice. Correct?
stalked_r/t said:
Ok. so option "A" is correct then. Since I'm running Entropy's daily, by flashing the zip, it will automatically replace the kernel I'm running. They just don't want people going in behind their install and throwin in their kernel of choice. Correct?
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No they just won't support it if someone flashes another kernel afterwards because that can create other problems that they can't troubleshoot if you aren't running their kernel. This is because the kernel might have caused said issue
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Think about what yer asking. If a ROM didn't come with a kernel built into it could it run? No. What kind of kernel would a CM (cyanogenmod) ROM come with? Ehhh? A....CM kernel perhaps? Is this not common sense?
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Phalanx7621 said:
Think about what yer asking. If a ROM didn't come with a kernel built into it could it run? No. What kind of kernel would a CM (cyanogenmod) ROM come with? Ehhh? A....CM kernel perhaps? Is this not common sense?
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I'm not sure what you're saying is true. When installing UnNamed Rom, I needed to first install a kernel with CWM in it (Entropy's). I'm not sure why the install instructions for the ROM would say "Install the Kernel" unless it needed it. Would be kind of redundant don't you think?
That's why when I read the warning about running a different kernel, I wanted to make sure that there wasn't a step I was missing before installing it.
stalked_r/t said:
I'm not sure what you're saying is true. When installing UnNamed Rom, I needed to first install a kernel with CWM in it (Entropy's).
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You're completely wrong. This only when you're rooting. UnNamed already comes with a kernel
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stalked_r/t said:
I'm not sure what you're saying is true. When installing UnNamed Rom, I needed to first install a kernel with CWM in it (Entropy's). I'm not sure why the install instructions for the ROM would say "Install the Kernel" unless it needed it. Would be kind of redundant don't you think?
That's why when I read the warning about running a different kernel, I wanted to make sure that there wasn't a step I was missing before installing it.
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Asked, discussed but don't say such "I'm not sure what you're saying is true", it is an insult. Phalanx is right and I think you maybe still confuse about the process.
Q: why would I (we) need to install custom kernel such Entropy DD before flashing custom ROM?
That question leads to another question
Q1: how do I flash custom ROM, what is the requirement?
A: In order to flash ROM, you MUST have CwMR installed
Then next question Q2: how do I get CwMR installed on my device?
That lead to the answer for the first question, you get CwMR by installing custom kernel.
Still confuse?
Now back to your discussion, yes, every ROM (I should say every firmware image) MUST contain the kernel (along with the OS).
In your first post, CM9 ROM will have CM9 kernel called "CM stock kernel"
Why don't they support anything else but their own kernel?
Put it this way, you sell me a PC, running Windows 7, I bring it home, rip it apart, install Linux on it, when I have issue, I call you and say "I bought the PC from you, I decide to install my own OS, and now something doesn't work right". Do you think you will provide me any kind of support?
Another note from your post, CM9 is ICS, make sure you get Entropy's ICS kernel called FAQUD (spelling), not his Daily Driver for GB.
votinh said:
Asked, discussed but don't say such "I'm not sure what you're saying is true", it is an insult. Phalanx is right and I think you maybe still confuse about the process.
Q: why would I (we) need to install custom kernel such Entropy DD before flashing custom ROM?
That question leads to another question
Q1: how do I flash custom ROM, what is the requirement?
A: In order to flash ROM, you MUST have CwMR installed
Then next question Q2: how do I get CwMR installed on my device?
That lead to the answer for the first question, you get CwMR by installing custom kernel.
Still confuse?
Now back to your discussion, yes, every ROM (I should say every firmware image) MUST contain the kernel (along with the OS).
In your first post, CM9 ROM will have CM9 kernel called "CM stock kernel"
Why don't they support anything else but their own kernel?
Put it this way, you sell me a PC, running Windows 7, I bring it home, rip it apart, install Linux on it, when I have issue, I call you and say "I bought the PC from you, I decide to install my own OS, and now something doesn't work right". Do you think you will provide me any kind of support?
Another note from your post, CM9 is ICS, make sure you get Entropy's ICS kernel called FAQUD (spelling), not his Daily Driver for GB.
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Thanks. I wasn't insulting anyone. I was saying that I don't know, but I didn't think it was true. Not saying YOU'RE WRONG!

[Q] Getting a custom rom?

So I've never flashed this device before, and I got it today but I'd like a custom ROM flashed to it.
Could someone point me to the following:
-A working ODIN link for this device
-A custom ROM (GB) that has all working features (camera, etc) and is built for the INTL 5.0 version (I've been looking at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465144)
-A guide for getting CWM recovery.
Cheers.
This thread has all the info you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
I personally have used the Eryigit rom you linked and it works fine.
Have fun.
I would stay away from Cyanogen and its variations right now if you want everything to work. CM7 has issues with wifi (and other stuff) and CM9 has no HW Acceleration -kernel issues.
Pretty much any rom based on stock is a safe bet.
rjwil1086 said:
I would stay away from Cyanogen and its variations right now if you want everything to work. CM7 has issues with wifi (and other stuff) and CM9 has no HW Acceleration -kernel issues.
Pretty much any rom based on stock is a safe bet.
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Thanks, but still, how do I get CWM recovery? I couldn't see much in the above thread.
abtekk said:
Thanks, but still, how do I get CWM recovery? I couldn't see much in the above thread.
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Check in the custom kernel section and download the kernel according to your device.
Look in the thread cvcduty posted in the custom kernel section. The kernels have CWM packaged with them. You'll need Odin to flash them. If you search the forums you'll probably find a link for Odin... or google it
Make sure you use the rigth kernel for your specific device. The 5" and 4" are different and there are two versions of the 5". Not sure if there is more than one version of the 4" or not.
rjwil1086 said:
Look in the thread cvcduty posted in the custom kernel section. The kernels have CWM packaged with them. You'll need Odin to flash them. If you search the forums you'll probably find a link for Odin... or google it
Make sure you use the rigth kernel for your specific device. The 5" and 4" are different and there are two versions of the 5". Not sure if there is more than one version of the 4" or not.
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Thanks mate, that's what I wasn't sure about. If I happen to flash the wrong kernel I can overwrite it with the correct one as usual, correct? and it's Odin3 v1.3 I need, isn't it?
All sounds right to me. Even with a bad kernel you'll have download mode to fall back on.
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All sounds right to me. Even with a bad kernel you'll have download mode to fall back on.
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Thanks, just flashed it and got a boot loop.
Edit: Could be because I flashed a GB kernel while still on froyo, I best revert to stock kernel and do a KIES update first
Edit2: Tried to go stock but still a boot loop -_-
This has gone, extremely well...
/sarcasm
I just downloaded Odin 1.3 and flashed Entrophy's DD as we discussed. No issues on my device - as i anticipated because this is how I did mine initially. Which model do you have? Another question, did you try to boot into CWM after you flashed the kernel (VolUp + Power). If you can get into CWM then your good to flash whatever ROM you want, even if the Stock ROM is boot-looping.
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I just downloaded Odin 1.3 and flashed Entrophy's DD as we discussed. No issues on my device - as i anticipated because this is how I did mine initially. Which model do you have? Another question, did you try to boot into CWM after you flashed the kernel (VolUp + Power). If you can get into CWM then your good to flash whatever ROM you want, even if the Stock ROM is boot-looping.
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Sorted, thank you for your help and clearing things up for me.
rjwil1086 said:
I would stay away from Cyanogen and its variations right now if you want everything to work. CM7 has issues with wifi (and other stuff) and CM9 has no HW Acceleration -kernel issues.
Pretty much any rom based on stock is a safe bet.
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i went to look and i think im blind but which are based on the stock rom? and which is the best ?
harts830 said:
i went to look and i think im blind but which are based on the stock rom? and which is the best ?
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I just installed this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579774
It's a rooted stock GB ROM with a custom kernel. Supports both USA and International devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
Check out this thread again. It has most of the ROMs listed as "Stock Based" or "CM Based". I'm running GB.XXKPH.WT-0.4.0 for Galaxy Player 5.0 Intl & US and it seems to be a good one. Several people like Eryigit-GB-2.3.
On another note, I'm actually trying to continue ambrice's development on CM7 but can't get my build to boot.

[Q] Kernel not flashing help

I have flashed paranoidandroid 3.15 on my galaxy s3 a couple weeks ago, aside the occasional screen that win't turn on I haven't had any problem, but I set my mind on flashing a new kernel in order to be able to change thez governor. I tried to flash air kernel on, I did exactly what I was told: Boot into recovery, clear cache/delvik, installed kernel from sd card, and rebooted. But after the phone being rebooted, I still had the stock kernel.
My question is, why did this happen, and how do I fix it?
All help is appreciated
what recovery? link to the kernel?
Glebun said:
what recovery? link to the kernel?
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I'm running TWRP ( Team Win Recovery Project)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842 link to the kernel, although if you know any kernels that work better/ more appropriate for ParanoidAndroid, I am more than open to suggestions
vonniel said:
I'm running TWRP ( Team Win Recovery Project)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842 link to the kernel, although if you know any kernels that work better/ more appropriate for ParanoidAndroid, I am more than open to suggestions
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Kernel is for nexus s not galaxy s3
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wow, you're lucky the updater-script saved your phone. Flashing wrong firmware will kill it
Glenbun. Only mismatched, corrupted, or missing boot loaders can kill a phone.
yeah-yeah, but we should scare the noobs away from flashing the wrong firmware that potentially includes a bootloader
Glebun said:
yeah-yeah, but we should scare the noobs away from flashing the wrong firmware that potentially includes a bootloader
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Glebun u have a point, even other incompatible components of recovery zip packages can brick the phone.
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Glebun said:
wow, you're lucky the updater-script saved your phone. Flashing wrong firmware will kill it
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Wow, I feel so dumb ^^' I'll be more careful next time around.
What kernel would you recommend for me?
I recommed stock mb5 or speedmod k2-12 kernels for you
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I recommed stock mb5 or speedmod k2-12 kernels for you
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Well, I don't really know either of them, I don't mind stock, but I want to change things, sometimes it just isn't up for the task, or uses up battery when I would rather it didn't, without even knowing what they do, and looking around, I found the perseus kernel, I would like some opinions on the kernel, I would be very grateful if you told me if it fits me, if it's compatible with ParanoidAndroid, and finally if you have a better suggestion for a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691401
read the first post of the thread to find out if it's compatible with your ROM.
and try it to see if it suits you
If I'm running TWRP can I still download kernels that say they are meant for CWM?
yes

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