So I just bought a new Lumia 800. My previous phone HTC Mozart so I compare their screens and there is one thing that annoys me: while my HTC Mozart displays everything from fonts to live tiles smoothly, those in my Lumia 800 look "serrated":
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in which the "No sim" one was taken from my Lumia screen. Similarly, when white texts are displayed in black background, they look serrated too which a little bit hurts my eyes.
Could you tell me if this is normal for AMOLED screens or is it just my device's problem?
Thank you in advance.
I believe this has to do with the Pentile Matrix of the Lumia 800.
search "pentile" on this forum for more info.
found an online artice http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/11/2699574/lumia-900-amoled-display-no-pentile
talks about Lumia 900 not having this type of matrix
Yep, what (s)he said. It's due to the PenTile matrix used.
Thanks for all the replies. Now I believe my phone's screen is normal, although I don't really like that pentile effect at all
Not many people do. Some people apparently can't see the effect at all. Annoyingly, I can.
I can see it if I look for it, but it doesn't bother me in normal use.
Unfortunately, I got used to the smoothness of HTC Mozart display, so this really annoys me
i find it's far more noticeable if you use more warm colours (like oranges and reds) than if you use blues or greens.
I am used to the pentile. I have always disliked pentile screens but now after using one for two weeks I can say the pentile doesn't bother me one bit. Even though I see it all the time as I'm sensitive to these things. The true black and good response time of the screen makes up for it. I now prefer it over the sharper screen of my old Xperia Play. Much more comfortable screen to look at on the Lumia.
Like comparing LCD to plasma. Amoled seems much easier on the eyes than ordinary LCD.
I can notice it and I hate it, but I knew what I was getting. The Samoled+ on my old GS2 looked much better. Honestly, even looking at my GF's 710 I have to say that I like that screen better for some aspects: pics and vids have more natural colours and look less pixelated, text is also more readable in the browser without zooming. Anyway at the end of the day the 800 is overall a much better phone, and its unique design mekes you feel like you're holding a true work of art in your hand. Right now thinking about going back to my super plasticky GS2 makes me cringe.
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Hello everyone,
I noticed that at night when I have a black background i can see dark spots that make you notice the color is not uniform.
This defect occurs when all these conditions are verified:
- Completely dark room and eyes accustomed to the darkness for a few minutes
- Completely black screen (like the one in the test screen by typing *#0*#)
- Minimum brightness (but can be seen even at maximum brightness).
In practice, you see lots of little dots of different sizes and shapes, always black as the background, but not the rest of the uniform color (as if they were the signs of glue that is below).
During the day with light are virtually invisible, at night using it would not normally notice, but as soon as the screen remains black for a few seconds (for example when loading a video from youtube), here they are appearing and are really annoying.
I got my phone last week, I would still be time to ask to replace it, but I'm afraid it's a problem of all devices and maybe even put the risk of receiving a worse one (with dead pixels, circles on the screen, etc.).
Someone else has ever noticed these spots? If you have not noticed could you do a test under the conditions that I outlined above?
To understand whether it is a problem of all (in which case I would avoid to let me change) or just mine.
I still have 2 days to apply for replacement, thanks!!
P.S: sorry for my bad english
Same on mine, and a lot of them... not really visible that much only with blank black screen... and sincerely when do you use your phone with nothing on the display ?
Im pretty sure those are manufacturing imperfections in the amoled production process and we cant do anything about it, im pretty sure all phones have it to some extent.
Same here... I think that its bet to just get used to it, that what i did anyway..
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Yes, I have the same problem too! Just got the white version of this phone. I also noticed that mine looks like there's a small fingerprint smudge underneath the glass. These don't bother me, but what really bugs me is this faint faded line that runs up and down the screen. It looks like burn-in or something. I can't see it unless I'm playing a certain video with gray backgrounds. Should I swap it out or keep it? The one I have now has no dead pixels, but I'm afraid the new one would...
Hmmm so we all have this problem, any other witness?
Yeah same thing i was thinking im only one
/problem with all oled screens
same with mine..its a flaw by samsung. unequal distribution of glue to stick the glass and capacitive layer
Same here ...
At first I was a bit worried because I also have an LG Optimus SOL E730 with amoled, and it does not suffer from this problem.
So, the only thing that comes to my mind, is that samsung did a crappy job on this phone.
One more thing: When the screen is black, the LG appears as if it's turned off, the Samsung, on the other hand, is a little lit.
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Here's a side-by-side of two ATT GS2s on auto brightness showing the same application. The one on the left has a bluish/greenish tinge to the display, while the one on the right looks...I dunno...pinkish? Almost dirty by comparison, at least to my eyes, as it's much harder to read in low light settings. I thought at first it was the Helvetica vs stock font, but it's clearly the panel's lighting characteristics.
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Here are the same phones again running the 'dead pixel test' from the Market, set to max brightness on the white screen color test.
The one on the right doesn't seem to be able to produce a true white.
Now, I get that there are different screen suppliers, and manufacturing variances among panel batches, but this whole thing has me a little disappointed at Samsung's QC. I would love to know what qualifies as a successful screen test, because the one on the right is a huge disappointment to my eyes. Just for the hell of it I compared both screens to my old Captivate, and to my surprise that had the most accurate color reproduction of the three.
How bout you guys - true whites on your screen? (try the gmail app, for example) Maybe I just got a bad batch?
The screen on my SGS2 has no colot tinge whatsoever. It's white and bright. I did however notice a bluish tint on my Infuse; which drove me crazy. I actually exchanged 3 Infuses because of a flaw in market where I got the "unable to download, insufficient memory on device". Each Infuse had a different tint, or brightness to the display. I switched to thw SGS2 and haven't looked back since.
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Wow... big difference.... what the hell...
I thought this too about my SGSII when comparing it side-by-side with store units... Turned out for me the brightness was the same but another setting (adjust screen to save battery or something like that) was checked on my phone, making the screen look like crap on some colors, including making white look gray and yellow look bluish. Once I uchecked that box the display looked fine.
yeah I am anal about colors too. Being a photographer.
So I was looking for ways to improve the displays on my SGS2(now returned).
I have a Gretag i1-Pro spectrophotometer that I use for calibration and also matching color swatches. So I 'calibrated' my screen to the best of the available software. There is a program call 'Screen Adjuster' you guys can use to alter the RGB values. However gama will be off, and you can only calibrate EITHER high bias RGB or low bias RGB. There is no way to calibrate both.
Have you tried Supercurio screen tune? He just started making it but can probably help you out with colors and such.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313652
QC and screen temperature were both big issues with the ISGS2 when it launched. There's a 100 page thread that's been talking about it since May. Five ISGS2's side-by-side all had from slight to wild differences in color temperature. Some of the ROMs also alter color temperature which makes it even more confusing. Cool/blue is what's intended to be normal and warm/yellow is the exception. The phone on the right in the pic looks like it has a warmer screen. I'd guess they changed either the screen or manufacturing process for the ASGS2 or you guys would have been freaking out by now.
P.S. - Samsung manufactures all their own displays and they all come from the same factories. So if there are differences it's QC or allowable deviation.
So I am seeing some color issues with my SII
Not sure if it's just the way it is (because I am coming from the LG G2x which had the most amazing display you can ever imagine), or is it just my phone.
The funny thing is that even though I am attaching a screnshot, obviously YOU will not be able to see the issue (since of course, the pic itself is fine, and it is the display that makes it wavey...)
I am not even sure I am explaining myself the right way.
Wavy colorts, uneaven, almost cartoonish-like, smeary.
It is most apparent with darker shades
(U can't see it here)
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Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus displays exaggerate colors and shades, and that is it's key feature. Not sure about your phone, but if you think something's wrong with your phone, go check with your service provider.
nicholaschum said:
Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus displays exaggerate colors and shades, and that is it's key feature. Not sure about your phone, but if you think something's wrong with your phone, go check with your service provider.
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Thank you!!!
Found some info here, i wonder if mine is one of these....
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-screen-problems-trouble-in-paradise
I hope more members will have something to say, perhaps they have experienced this as well.
I was also thinking whether this can (hopefully) be a kernel issue or color calibration issue? I know that some kernels has effect on the colors, but I am out of my field here and completely wrong
The weird thing is that light colors are perfect. When GRAY or BLACK, it just looks bad.
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The weird thing is that light colors are perfect. When GRAY or BLACK, it just looks bad.
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I've got something similar to that.
It's not noticeable in a well lit environment but if I'm in a dark room and have a black screen on my sgs2, some blotches seem darker than the rest of the screen.
I wouldn't be too bothered about this if it was just one or two but there's one large one and a bunch of smaller ones scattered around the screen.
Thanks!
I wish I could upload a photo to show it, but (funny enough), my only camera is my phone's camera (a single student - what r u gonna do?!)
This is especially noticeable when I take a picture or when I use the Music app (pictured above), where there is huge smears of color going from the dark to the lighter.
I hate to even imagine it, but I think I will have to depart from my SII if this is something that isn't fixable. If no one else experience this, I will get a new SII
(i don't know anyone that has the SII so I have no one to compare it to)
Managed to take some pics
Hope U can see it:
Look at the bottom discoloration:
All menus with shades of grey and black present this issue (kernel problem maybe?)
NOTICE POWER WIDGET!!!!
Just walked into a corporate store to check this thing out and get a feel for it, see if its worth leaving a GS III. Everything about it seems legit, except the screen set to full brightness still seemed too dim. Might just be the AMOLED screens spoiling my eyes for the last 2 years, but just wanted some comments from owners who have been able to take this thing outside.
So how is the brightness for you guys? Is it still fairly viewable in sunlight? Please no discussions about color clarity/saturation. I know it doesn't hold a candle to reproducing vibrant colors like OLED does.
I went out in full daylight and could see perfectly clear. First time ever on a smartphone that I've never had to cup my hands around the screen to see
Sent from my Droid DNA. 1080p never looked so sweet
Awesome. I was initially concerned with it being LCD, but I remember reading on a few sites that the superiority in SLCD3 was its manufacturing quality and clarity. I guess that coupled with the display being bonded better and closer to the surface translates into better visibility. Thanks for responding.
It is interesting to hear others review on this screen.
Since the major reason I did not buy galaxy 3 or note is AMOLED screen really looks dime even max brightess is only equel to my htc one x 's 50% brightness level which I can not accept.
It's a beautiful sunny day in Los Angeles.
Walked outside.
Had no issue seeing the screen contents.
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So how is the brightness for you guys?
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We decided to pit the Droid DNA against the iPhone 5, Nexus 4, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy S III (from left to right it's the iPhone, Nexus 4, Droid DNA, One X, and Galaxy S III). All screens were turned up to maximum brightness, as can be seen in the photo above. The first thing you'll note is that the Droid DNA isn't the brightest by a long shot; that title still belongs to the iPhone 5, followed by the One X (though the One X seems brighter because there are simply more pixels in total). Disappointing? Yes, though it's still plenty bright enough to be visible in daylight.
http://gizmodo.com/5960289/htc-droid-dna-vs-iphone-5-and-everyone-else-whos-got-the-best-display
The displays on the One X+ and 8X are 20% dimmer than the OG One X too. Previous One X's had panels from Sony, Acer, and Sharp. The new display on the One X+ is from a mysterious fourth vendor (0x944a03) that hasn't been identified yet. Maybe HTC's changed panel vendor's for their new devices?
Alright , several people here might be familiar with my name and my review of the HTC TITAN back in the day. Do i decided to give Nokia a go this time.
So... i got my 920.
I will try my best here to explain everything that an advanced users like most of XDA members here are looking for.
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Most of the Cyan 920 are only available online on AT&T , i got a Dev from Nokia hook me up with one so don't ask me why or how i get it.
Open it up, i must say i am impressed with the design and the color, it is a little bit bulky compare to the old built-like-a-tank TITAN , but it doesn't hurt my feeling.
Because the 920 use the microsim , so i have to cut my sim to make it compatible (if you don't want to spend like $5 for a cutter, go online, there is plentiful template out there for you)
The Cyan color is definitely catchy and i am glad that i got it. The device feel great in hand, but somehow i feel it kinda fragile. (i got a case for it anyway). And of course, Nokia doesn't allow you to throw away your old batter and put a new one in. It is secured inside that polycarbonate cover.
The Camera on the back look sleek and beautiful, but there is still questions about it, ( i will cover it tomorrow on the second post)
First boot, start up just fine, little bit longer than i expected.
The screen is the WXGA one , mean you still hold the same ratio from the old Windows Phone but with lager Pixel Density. (this one is 331 i believe). I mean , all the tile look very sharp and beautiful on the 4.5 inch IPS display from Nokia. The glass is the Gorilla Glass so at least i don't have to worry about it getting scratches easily, but screen protector is still recommended, i am still looking for a good one. The super sensitive screen prove itself , i can wear gloves and still navigate around easily.
The 920 is the LTE phone, so if you have a GoPhone service like me, you will have to add the VPN to get HSPDA to work. (wap.cingular). But overall , it work just fine.
So, first impression over the phone and compare to HTC TITAN II?
The phone is about the size of the TITAN II, longer and a little bit thicker. It is a little bit heavier in my hand but it is hard to notice. While TITAN has the usb port on the side , the Lumias seem to have the USB on the bottom of it (i like it)
The screen is definitely a plus for the Lumia, the picture sure as hell look sharper even though we all agree that pictures still look beautiful on TITAN and TITAN II. But because of smaller screen size and higher resolution, the image will be better on the Lumia/
As the first impression, i feel happy with the purchase, but the fun part has not yet come.
I will go over the hardware and software part tomorrow or so, keep the questions and request coming, i will answer.
Reserved
I also went from a titan to the 920 - agree that size wise its a wash, and the slightly greater weight isn't an issue. On AT&T LTE, you can really feel the network speed difference between that and "4G" on the Titan.
Sorry that i have some projects i need to codes and test before the end of next week. Something i didn't expect.
Sorry about the delay.
I just bought the 920 and also have a Titan 2..
I've noticed the 920 does open apps a little faster but on opening maps...both using bing maps..
the Titan is smoother scrolling around...I don't really play games so I can't compare that..
Honestly...I prefer the build on the Titan...whenever (if ever) they release 7.8 for the Titan..I could see myself selling the Nokia....
blue color is very nice:laugh:but my city cant to buy it,only white and black .,