A few questions on the note - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

First off i am coming from a iPhone 4s and dont regret a thing EXCEPT the reception on the iPhone was better at my location, i always had full to -1 bars on iphone, but on the note I'm seeing 1-2 bars and sometimes it switches down to 2g, (edge) netwotwork?
IS THIS COMMON? With the note or any samsung phone to have weaker antenna's or should i exchange it? i talked to a tech at att and she said that the samsung phones are weaker than iPhones ? After you see my other problems I'll probably just have too.exchange it ?
2- i always either show 4g or edge in the status bar no 3g icon ever and i am in a 3g area only about 50 miles south of chicago.Is att trying to make me think i have 4g when i only get .70 download speeds.
3- another problem i am seeing is the touch screen seems to be off quite a bit but not all the time( weird) typing this seems ok but most of the time its off about a 1/8 in if i press say the letter r I'll get d or f ? And with a big delay I'll type a few letters and nothing will show up then all of a sudden I'll. Get all at once about 3 sec. Later? and delay switching windows,scrolling, etc.also too. Not sticking up for iPhone but it being half the size letter press's on it was exact, but from what i am reading so far some phone's are experiencing delays and screen defects some not?
So i tryed gosms and made a difference but still not perfect but better overclocked to 1500 performance( highest my app would go) im just rooted no other custom roms or anything just stock with root. What is Best overclocking program for note?
3 - when looking at my storage i have a 32 g sd card i loaded so i am showing 3 storage but seems really low? and numbers shown reflect available -
Phone- 1.49 gb
Usb- 10.69 gb
Sd- 29.32 gb
On 1 web spec review shows -
RAM-1GB
ROM-16GB
INTERNAL-16GB
SO as i see it i have nothing reflecting what i am suppose to have except the 32 card i injected into it,
So from reading it says either 16/32 im a little confused on the storage capacities? The 16/32 is that removable and is that what the phone comes with and how to chage it? At first i thought it was like the iPhone. Where you can either. Buy 16/32/64 sizes, searched for hours to find something to clarify. But theres not much out there yet for this phone . I know i had a empty slot to load my 32 card but didn't see another one thats suppose to be 16 ?
Really confused on this part of this phone ?
And im i reading that the skyrocket is getting better benchmark speeds? Saw that on An3DBench the skyrocket is at 7428 and note 7028 ? Is that a noticeable difference?
Just on the fence whether or not to trade it in for the skyrocket?
I'm all about speed,
So other than those issues i love this phone and im sure it'll get even better in time once there's cwm for it to flash roms and especially when ics comes out.
Have to say i was very tempted and started out to the store to get the skyrocket untill i played with this one but i still mite swap it for skyrocket HD? Just due to the size nice when working with it but hard to hold and good thing i use a Bluetooth headset other wise i would be pretty embarrassed holding the tab to my ear.
Haven't. Messed with rooting or romming for a long time, back since the thunderbolt came out so getting a fefresh course especially with samsung pretty different but easy and like it, so i guess now i can retire the tbolt and sell it now that theres actually something worth getting.
Sorry for the long post, but getting back on android boat, and now samsung from dedicated htc User,befor the iphone run ( 3 weeks before i woke up from the iPhone trance.) Just trying to get a grip on things
And if anybody wants to let me in on anything what to do or not to do with these phones as far as custom roms/ mods or best rooting process? (I used odin stock root) but love playing with custom roms and modding just not comfortable with running scripts yet my hacking skills still ( noob - medium) so need cwm or rom manager is what i used with the tbolt and incredible.
So im sure im not the only one with these questions so sure it'll help a few people,
Thanks all for your help in advance!
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I get the same "bars" as my old phone, in general. I haven't compared actual dB readings yet, its on my long to-do list.
Where other phones show "H" or "3G" on a 3G-only node, this shows "4G". It will change to "4G LTE" when you are on a LTE node.
I get perfect accuracy on my keyboard (still using the Samsung keyboard), and very very rarely do I get a brief delay, otherwise no delay.

Just to clarify on the status bar symbol -
Mine is showing the 4g symbol or edge only, i never get a 3g symbol even though i am i. A 3g only area and my down load speexs reflet 3g also_ see my keyboard is doing it again notice( spesds)
Im going to try 1 more then go with the skyrk ket if i keeps getting. Issues
Thanmz!
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you should never see a 3g icon on this phone because at&t classifies there hspa+ as 4g because its as fast as sprints wimax in most areas. now that 4g icon will have an lte under it if you are in an lte area

So .11 download speed is a bit ridiculous
Maybe I'm getting throttled? But never recived a mesg. About it
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Few questions before switching to X10

Guys, I'm currently on AT&T in the U.S. with a Samsung Captivate. My GPS and random shut downs are giving me major headaches. Not sure if I want to deal with it any more or try to get a replacement, so I was thinking about switching to the X10.
Just wonder if anyone here came from a Captivate and can offer some review of the two phones. Thx.
I like multitouch and super brilliant screen, but a working GPS is more important to me.
View have both their advantages! I would say x10 has: battery time, best display for reading text, camera, stability, GPS..
Personal Opinion
hey dont know about the captivate, as i live in australia but i work in a telco shop and ive played with the galaxy s, and i really think its a great phone but too many issues currently and really lags over time, as for myslef i got the x10 mainly for the camera and stability, as much i the super amoled screen is great, (ive had omnia II i8000) and im over it. id rather a great 8mpx camera and flash on it, nice looking phone although captivate is also great.
but it really comes down to whats important for you like same thing i tell customers, it comes down to the features you looking for, more or less they are very similar phones but a few things here and there is what tis the scale for different people.
i also tell people to play with both see which is more intuitive for YOU. simple as that
chaostimmy said:
View have both their advantages! I would say x10 has: battery time, best display for reading text, camera, stability, GPS..
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I had the Captivate for a week before switching it out for the x10. Together with the above I found the reception and call quality much better on the x10.
Just so you get a full picture, here are the X10 issues:
1) Low incall volume/ring volume. It's loud enough for me but many people complain.
2) Longer waiting times for new android versions. SE made a slick UI for it but that makes you wait a lot for updates. It's running 1.6 and it's stable, 2.1 should be out in October, but if you have a demand for a function that needs 2.2 (ie: flash 10) then get another phone.
3) Battery life when the display is on. When I use it for GPS on the car battery lasts 5/6 hours only so you'll need a car charger. On regular use as a phone and about 30 min internet browsing per day it can last 2/3 days.
4) No multitouch support.
There are no perfect phones, just make sure you understand what you're getting and whether it suits your needs or not.
To be honest with you , after 5 months of using the X10 , it is a very good Sony Ericsson's mobile , but not a good Android Device.
if you are looking for a mobile to use then it will be more than enough, but if you are looking for an Android Device then it is not the right one.
@solo13 - Why?? I'm not sure I understand why you say it's not a "good" android device??
Is it the OS version? We all know that's going to be 2.1 soon..?? Or is it something else that makes this not a good android phone for you?
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@solo13 - Why?? I'm not sure I understand why you say it's not a "good" android device??
Is it the OS version? We all know that's going to be 2.1 soon..?? Or is it something else that makes this not a good android phone for you?
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just have a look at http://www.google.com/phone
and do a comparison between the X10 and any other device .
the main failure is in the RAM and the internal Memory
RAM Is 384MB meanwhile other devices is 500MB (( Android requires at least 200MB))
Internal Memory is 1GB meanwhile other devices has 8GB or 16GB ( Fresh X10 has only 440MB Free) .
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just have a look at http://www.google.com/phone
and do a comparison between the X10 and any other device .
the main failure is in the RAM and the internal Memory
RAM Is 384MB meanwhile other devices is 500MB (( Android requires at least 200MB))
Internal Memory is 1GB meanwhile other devices has 8GB or 16GB ( Fresh X10 has only 440MB Free) .
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But X10 comes with a 8Gb SD card.
Of course, is not as fast as the internal but ...
The internal memory is a toss-up no matter what operating system you're running. Some phones have more, some less. Are one of the smaller capacity iPhones not as 'good' of an iPhone as the larger capacity ones? If you know what you need then why get more?
Besides, not relying on internal storage isn't a bad thing. If your phone dies you've lost the data stored in the internal memory. With a memory card you can pull the card out and you're good to go.
Moving from my W760 > C905 > Tilt2 > X10 was a simple matter of pulling my memory card and plugging it into my next contestant. (Barring of course copying the data from my m2 to micro sd card). No need to go back to the old phone for anything, except the C905 for the camera experience.
Mine came with a 16gb card. The only nice thing Rogers has ever done.
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Unless you're a lucky buyer who had a grandfathered unlimited data plan the current plan for $ 15/200mb is totally designed to fail since android phones are all apparently set to switch to 3g when the screen blanks. I am at home or office both with wifi and have thousands of public wifi in my area which my phone logs into automatically but because of updating when the screen is blanked have used most of my data in my first week. I am now tethered to a outlet with my phone connected so the screen won't blank. I refuse to pay att another $300 a year.
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Unless you're a lucky buyer who had a grandfathered unlimited data plan the current plan for $ 15/200mb is totally designed to fail since android phones are all apparently set to switch to 3g when the screen blanks. I am at home or office both with wifi and have thousands of public wifi in my area which my phone logs into automatically but because of updating when the screen is blanked have used most of my data in my first week. I am now tethered to a outlet with my phone connected so the screen won't blank. I refuse to pay att another $300 a year.
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The default on the device is to turn off WiFi when the screen blanks but this is user changeable.
Settings>Wireless Controls>WiFi Settings>Menu>Advanced>WiFi Sleep Policy.
I have mine set to "Never".
@charlyee - Thanks for the great tip!
charlyee said:
The default on the device is to turn off WiFi when the screen blanks but this is user changeable.
Settings>Wireless Controls>WiFi Settings>Menu>Advanced>WiFi Sleep Policy.
I have mine set to "Never".
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Aha.....thanks
After doing this for a few days now, I find the battery lasts about 15 hours with moderate usage. I'm always in WiFi area, at home, at work, even most of my traveling locally thanks to my cable company investing in a wifi network for it's customers as a 'competitive advantage' over FIOS. http://www.optimum.net/WiFi/Find
25% of the battery will be used for wifi support in this mode.
I totally agree with ruskival, switching from phone to another depend on ur needs and features u r seeking for. So decide what features u love most and then decide. I will help u some also, i have choosed balance, nice camera, nice design, needed open source OS, knowing that all android 3 reviews tells that it is desined for big tabs such as the 7" screen samsung tabs or u will not benifit of its real power. So i can wait another year untill getting the2.2 update as it will be the last needed for a phone. Issues like low involume call doesnt bother me much and am sure it will be solved in the future. I also like time escape and media escape as they provide me with new sync experience. So unless ur looking for OS fast updates, am sure u will be happy using an x10
Best wishes
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stan.s said:
Unless you're a lucky buyer who had a grandfathered unlimited data plan the current plan for $ 15/200mb is totally designed to fail since android phones are all apparently set to switch to 3g when the screen blanks. I am at home or office both with wifi and have thousands of public wifi in my area which my phone logs into automatically but because of updating when the screen is blanked have used most of my data in my first week. I am now tethered to a outlet with my phone connected so the screen won't blank. I refuse to pay att another $300 a year.
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So like this am very lucky as i pay what is equiv to 4 usd for same plan in my country, but the difference that when i finish the data rate they limit download speed to 64 k/sec untill next month. And i feel comfort with this plan.
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saeam said:
So like this am very lucky as i pay what is equiv to 4 usd for same plan in my country, but the difference that when i finish the data rate they limit download speed to 64 k/sec untill next month. And i feel comfort with this plan.
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It doesn't matter for me now as I went from 140mb in 5 days to 15mb in 8 days. There's so much wifi around me that is available at home/work and traveling that I can be on it all day and use my phone as I wish.
For me, since I only have ATT UMTS at 2.5mb in my general area, the local cable company's wifi is 3mb and less laggy. I only wish the X10 had "N" bonding so that I could take advantage of my dual band "N" network at home and at work. I would love to see 150mb or better on wifi. This alone is/was one of the reasons that the Captivate interests me.

Opinions so far...

What does everyone think of this device so far. My wife is out of contract and this might be her first smartphone. Any opinions are much appreciated.
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I'm on my second one in less than a week. First one died randomly rebooting about every 5 minutes. Now my new one I just got yesterday just randomly rebooted.
When I took it back, the rep said it just needed hard reset, so she did it, then it rebooted in her hand! It was classic.
Terrible track record so far!
Outta the box, meh.
4 hours outta the box with some tweaking (root, freeze bloat, new launcher, etc) Best phone I've ever had.
Only downside is the locked bootloader which means no AOSP ROMS. But I think I can live with that.
Also MANY people have whined and cried about the penTile display, in my opinion the screen is beautiful. Some apps aren't optimized for the new higher resolution yet so they look a little "off" but it's no big deal. No fault of the phone but of app designers. It should get fixed in due course.
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Love it so far
I upgraded from the original droid running cyanogen 7 and I love the X2 so far. I installed laucherpro right away and rooted to install wired and wireless tether and freeze some of the bloatware that came with it.
I had a couple random reboots at first but I have not had one for a couple weeks now.
I was a little worried about the battery life at first but after a few days my battery must have finally been broken in and Im pleasantly surprised with the battery life.
No matter what you read elsewhere the screen is AMAZING... you can see it outside while its bright on the lowest setting, you bump it up to the highest and you can see it perfectly in direct sunlight.
People will also bash how much ram this has. Lots of people think that only having 512mb is a horrible thing. But if you actually do some research and learn about how android uses ram you'll realize that extra ram does no good. Essentially if its not being used its being wasted. I run a widget that I can click to see how much ram is left and its usually between 50 and 100. My friend has an atrix and his is usually around 400... which proves that hes not using the extra 512 he has available. So maybe down the road there will be some apps or a new version of android that will need 1gb or ram but i highly doubt it will be before Im up for another upgrade.
Rooting is a must
This was my upgrade from the Droid Incredible also rooted using Sky-Raider, and Cyanogen(mod) 7.0.3. The qHD and the dual core processor sold me on the phone.
After unboxing the I was struck by the brilliance and clarity of the screen and the phone was quite responsive at times. Easily viewable in direct sunlight (even when dimmed)but the phone was hanging when navigating to the home screen and the batter life was less than a day with light moderate use.
I rooted the phone using GingerBreak and after removing Bloatware, it is the best phone that I have seen for the price $199.99 with upgr.
The phone is worth the money, brilliant screen, responsive, and I am satisfied with the performance for now until there is a stable rom for it. Just ran benchmark with Quadrant Standard at 2128!
Read the engadget review posted 6-5-2011.
I really appreciate the opinions everyone. It seems like a great phone, but I think I'm getting her the Droid 3 simply because she's coming from the env touch (assbag of a phone btw) and would appreciate the physical keyboard. Thanks again.
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You folks had better luck than me. First the good points that made me want to keep it.
Build
Display
Battery life
Call quality
Speed for game emulators
Radio reception
Easy to root
Form factor suits one hand operation better than other 4.3"
Tegra 2 has very good audio quality
Why I returned it.
Where is the memory? I appreciate that 108mb of the 512mb ram appears to be allocated to the GPU, but if you add up the OS, Home UI, OS tasks, opened user apps and free ram, there is still about 160mb missing out of 404mb. You can apply a memory script to help out, but the memory slowly leaks away, even with the script. The DX2 starts to lag.
MP3 pops and clicks. This is probably due to the low operational ram mentioned above, but even when not multitasking, there are random pops and clicks and gets much worse if multitasking.
Flash can spike the device temps past 115 degrees. Flash does not appear to get on with the DX2 firmware. Heat spikes and the battery is drained like the DX2 is on an LTE radio.
Random reboots. It seems to mainly happen during web browsing, Flash playback and playing video files. While I was debating on keeping it or not (due to the good things mentioned at top) and rationalizing that the issues would be fixed, my DX2 rebooted while updating a few market apps. I considered that a sign to return it.
Seems better to return it and see if they fix the problems, rather than get stuck with the DX2, IF the problems are not fixed.
IF they fix the issues, I will buy the DX2 again, or wait for the Bionic. I am more likely to get the DX2 again, since I doubt a 4.5" qHD LCD display, dual core and LTE will have very good battery life.
The DX2 would rock REAL hard if the issues are fixed. I have a gTablet with same chipset, 512mb ram and Froyo and it does not have the issues noted.
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I miss the DX2, mainly due to the sweet display Back to my Incredible for now
For my part, I've seemingly resolved the quirky behaviour by enabling the performance profile. The "medium" setting would cause reboots and strange laggy app issues. I'm still likely to get the Bionic later as well, and trade this one in for credit. I tend to swap between my upgrade, and my wife's line upgrade.
Ruoh said:
For my part, I've seemingly resolved the quirky behaviour by enabling the performance profile. The "medium" setting would cause reboots and strange laggy app issues. I'm still likely to get the Bionic later as well, and trade this one in for credit. I tend to swap between my upgrade, and my wife's line upgrade.
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Where is the profile setup?
Dark_Wizard said:
Where is the profile setup?
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settings> battery & data manager> battery mode
stronggeek said:
settings> battery & data manager> battery mode
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Thx!
10char
If you don't need 4G LTE or a front-facing camera, it's a great purchase on Verizon. First dual-core phone for them! More power means longer shelf-life for keeping up with demanding apps/games. Large qHD res screen, Tegra 2 processor, solid build quality and pretty decent camera. Some people don't like the Blur UI, but it's not as bad as it used to be. You can always replace with a third party launcher too.
If this phone didn't look exactly like the original Droid X, people would probably be talking about it more. I'm especially enjoying the tegra 2 gaming - Riptide Gp (link)
Mine is working alright for me, I can attest the Motorola bloatware does slow down the phone quite a bit.
I also have Quadrant only reading "1 Core" so I don't know if Quadrant needs to be updated or the rumors are true that the CPU is limited till we get the Ginger from Motorola.
As far as hardware goes, I doubt the 512mb of RAM will make a difference once we start using custom ROMs and remove quite a bit of the bloat. The Tegra 2 seems to make everything really snappy, the battery is better than my Droid 2, I do miss the keyboard though, so your wife may really really like the keyboard or hate it. I am a really really really big fan of the keyboard phones, but my phone died and they offered to let me upgrade early so I went with a Tegra 2.
Although with all the Motorola software / Verizon software etc. It runs pretty sluggish at times and the significant other's Captivate will run circles around my phone despite being just the Galaxy S internals. She likes to rub that in.
I just smile and wait till I end up running Liberty or MIUI on my phone so I can destroy her smug-ness.
I'm coming from a BB Storm and am super impressed by the DX2...all of the reasons I told myself I DIDN'T need an android phone are the reasons I am using this sucker so often. Love the apps. Here are some of my concerns:
HEAT - The plate below the battery cover, where the speaker is becomes too hot to touch at some points. After reading some of the forums it seems that this will occur more if I am watching flash or doing some major downloading. Three weeks in, it seems to be managed better as I am using Advance App Killer whenever I use the phone to kill process that start when I am doing nothing more than texting.
BATTERY LIFE - At first I was getting about 3-4 hours with moderate to heavy use. As another poster stated above, the battery seems to have broken in a bit, though it seems I will always need to pack a charger if I will be out for more than five or six hours.
MP4 PLAYBACK - I have tried to put 1-2gig mp4's on the SD card in a folder created called "_movies", but the X2 seems to struggle playing these files. On videos I have made using the X2, playback is not a problem. Error message is "File cannot be displayed or played". Annoying.
DISAPPEARING / GHOSTING APPS: Similarly, I have dropped adk files into a folder created called "apps" on the SD card (or sdcard-ext as IDed in file search). I have used my laptop in two ways to write the files: 1) with X2 tethered via USB using Windows 7 to copy/paste files on the SD and 2) removed the SD from X2 and plugged mini-SD into adapter to write files directly to SD.
UNIQUE NOTIFICATION: My BB had the ability to assign separate ringtones to different email accounts...I'm sure that I can do this with an app, but it seems so much easier in the BB settings menu thand the android.
So in researching these issues it seems all paths lead back to one thing: Rooting the phone. I have gingerbreak and am ready to do this, but am reluctant to do it knowing I have about 28 hours setting this phone up custom and I know I will have to start from scratch on that customization. Can anyone confirm that post-root I will still be utilizing the MOTOBLUR? I read a lot about people who hate it, but I like the 7 screens and widgets.
Just my 2 cents on the device. Overall, very happy. I'm sure I'll be extremely happy post-root as I think I am reading that rooting the device will solve a lot of the file and OS issues listed above.
Rock on, great forum. FIRST POST. android noob.
Like it so far , pretty much as good as the X1. The screen looks great , they really improved the visibility in sunlight.
Otherwise I do have a few of the common issues like music skip, slow screen turn on, and random reboots. I figure they will get sorted when I can get a better rom installed.
I'm liking the X2 just fine. I upgraded from the Incredible and I'm glad I didn't go for the DI2. Dual Core...hell yea! Beautiful 4.3" display...hell yea! My guess is that things will get better with easy rooting and Gingerbread. Besides, I didn't really like my DI until I started using customs ROMs and cleaned out the bloatware.
I love it and dont need 4g and wont get it here for years
If your not in 4g area and want a phone better than all the 4g phones get this one. i love this phone i had thunderbolt for a bit but it sucked it lagged like a Mother Trucker. I hate that the bootloader is locked cuz i love stock roms but o well ill live i have launcher pro plus running on mine with it rooted and ALOT of stuff FROZEN it makes it way faster and runs really smooth. i have heard alot of ppl complain about how much launcher pro sucks on this device but it think it works great i may have it have to reload widgets and such 1 out of a 100 times win i hit the home button but prob more like 1 out of 250. also i have used golauncher but i had a few problems with it stock blur actually works decent to but i dont like the look of it and i love 3d app drawer. i cant say ull love the phone but i know i do its by far best phone on verizon. Now if i could get a nexus on verizon id b the happiest man alive but o well i cant so ill have to live with my dx2 until they get a nexus or until another carrier can get service in southern il.

[Q] Anyone used both EVO LTE and Galaxy S III ?

Hello all,
Apologies if this is not the right forum to post this question, but it seems like the most appropriate one.
I was just wondering if anyone here has used both the htc evo 4g lte and the samsung galaxy s iii ? I'm going to be upgrading my current phone (evo 4g) in a few weeks and I'm trying to decide which phone to go with. I'm leaning towards the evo. I like that it supports encryption and google wallet. But I like that the galaxy has a (slightly) bigger screen.
So I'm just curious if anyone here has been able to do a side by side comparison of the two. Any problems or pluses with either of them when compared to each other?
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Well the Evo has sense 4.0 which i truly love.I am a huge fan of sense and I strongly recommend it.Both devices feature the same processor so the speed is similar between the two.I also must admit that samsung did a good job with touchwiz 5.0 it is also very fluid and fast.But in the end it all comes to your preference although I strongly recommend the evo regardless of the unremovable battery.
The evo lte has an un-removable battery? I really dislike that. Although to be fair I don't think I've had a cell phone battery go dead before I wind up getting a new phone.
I'm leaning towards the evo since I also like sense. And I like that the evo has google wallet and supports encryption. I just haven't used a samsung phone before so not sure what their interface is like, or if there's a big enough difference in the screens to take that into consideration when deciding between the two.
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The evo lte has an un-removable battery? I really dislike that. Although to be fair I don't think I've had a cell phone battery go dead before I wind up getting a new phone.
I'm leaning towards the evo since I also like sense. And I like that the evo has google wallet and supports encryption. I just haven't used a samsung phone before so not sure what their interface is like, or if there's a big enough difference in the screens to take that into consideration when deciding between the two.
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I've owned both the EVO and the first gen EPIC since they around the time they came out. I've also used both the Samsung Galaxy S III (briefly played with a Sprint demo) and own the EVO LTE and bought my fiancee the Nexus S 4G about a year ago which I've also used quite a bit. There is no noticeable screen size between the EVO and the SGS III. That one/tenth of an inch is not noticeable IMO. Also for once HTC has trumped Samsung on screen technology in the same generation: the SLCD-2 screen blows the HD Super Amoled PenTile screen away in everything except the deepness of blacks. Depending on what you spend your time looking at this may make a difference to you or not.
Also there is really not a lot of performance difference right now between the SGSIII and the EVO. I don't think current Android architecture knows what to do with that extra gig of RAM. At the moment, the One X and EVO are still beating the SGSIII with the Qualcomm S4 in all of the benchmarks I've seen. Here is the most thorough one: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-shootout-atandt-vs-sprint/
Since you are asking for an opinion, I will put it this way: Samsungs are like suped-up rally cars (think Subaru WRX or Mitsubushi EVO). They have every feature under the sun, but would you really want to drive your boss to lunch in one? On the other hand, an HTC is like an Audi--performance plus refinement. If you have already gotten used to Sense on your EVO then the way things are done on the new EVO will just make more sense (pardon the pun).
One Example: HTC changes the ICS standard interface on Settings so that unlike most ICS phones (including Nexus and Samsung) the menu has a white background with black text. Well, that's not the way Google did it. However, when you are in direct sunlight outside, even with your sunglasses on, you can make out the display and adjust the brightness up or turn on autobrightness. With Samsung, the Nexus or any other ICS phone that is hewing more closely to Google's design standard, your screen will just be a big washed out mess.
That is the kind of thought that HTC puts into their devices.
For an EVO user, that has not had an upgrade since the OG EVO 4G, the new EVO will be a whole other world for you. The biggest difference is over 2GB of usable storage for apps and 9GB for data (of 16GB total).
However, make sure you test for your wifi connectivity where you use it most thoroughly. I did get one of those devices that seems to drop Wifi randomly and need to swap it out. After that, I am also going to root and probably run the Charmeleon rom with the storage swap--I am a packrat and even the 9GB of onboard storage is not giving me enough elbow room. However there is a mod to swap your external_sd card for the internal one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713737
That would make my 64GB SanDisk my primary storage, and once LTE get's lit in Houston next week, that should be just about perfect.
I actually do really like Audi's and would pick one over the WRX - although i've test driven the WRX when it first came out and it is a fun car also
I'm going to order the EVO LTE tomorrow - hopefully I wont run into too many problems when i try to keep my sero plan.

Just got one

So I just got this phone yesterday and I'm having a few issues.
One is the Browser keeps locking up, I have Chrome as well as the stock browser and they both lock up.
The WiFi performance seems pretty crappy too. Sitting right in front of my Apple router and not even full bars.
I have had a GS3 and currently have the iPhone 5, I have to say the iPhone is way more snappy then the G.
Not sure if this is a keeper or not.
I played with the One X Plus, and I'm not big on Sense, so the LG UI is much nicer IMO, but the phone may go back and give the One X Plus a try
bothfly said:
So I just got this phone yesterday and I'm having a few issues.
One is the Browser keeps locking up, I have Chrome as well as the stock browser and they both lock up.
The WiFi performance seems pretty crappy too. Sitting right in front of my Apple router and not even full bars.
I have had a GS3 and currently have the iPhone 5, I have to say the iPhone is way more snappy then the G.
Not sure if this is a keeper or not.
I played with the One X Plus, and I'm not big on Sense, so the LG UI is much nicer IMO, but the phone may go back and give the One X Plus a try
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I would just go replace the phone with another it seems you have some hardware issues.
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+1 defective unit. The One X+ is inferior in every single way except for the amount of NAND flash memory soldered to the motherboard and it arguably has a somewhat better display.
Yeah I think I'm going back to the iPhone 5.
This phone is a tad too big and there is nothing to hold on too to give it some grip.
I looked at a few cases today at the ATT Store and all were crap.
I also miss Siri and all the easy voice commands as well as the new Google app for IOS is like having Jelly Bean on the iPhone.
Its a nice phone but oh well, gota love Best Buy for the returns....
bothfly said:
Yeah I think I'm going back to the iPhone 5.
This phone is a tad too big and there is nothing to hold on too to give it some grip.
I looked at a few cases today at the ATT Store and all were crap.
I also miss Siri and all the easy voice commands as well as the new Google app for IOS is like having Jelly Bean on the iPhone.
Its a nice phone but oh well, gota love Best Buy for the returns....
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............ good bye.........
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bothfly said:
Yeah I think I'm going back to the iPhone 5.
This phone is a tad too big and there is nothing to hold on too to give it some grip.
I looked at a few cases today at the ATT Store and all were crap.
I also miss Siri and all the easy voice commands as well as the new Google app for IOS is like having Jelly Bean on the iPhone.
Its a nice phone but oh well, gota love Best Buy for the returns....
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Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
bothfly said:
So I just got this phone yesterday and I'm having a few issues.
One is the Browser keeps locking up, I have Chrome as well as the stock browser and they both lock up.
The WiFi performance seems pretty crappy too. Sitting right in front of my Apple router and not even full bars.
I have had a GS3 and currently have the iPhone 5, I have to say the iPhone is way more snappy then the G.
Not sure if this is a keeper or not.
I played with the One X Plus, and I'm not big on Sense, so the LG UI is much nicer IMO, but the phone may go back and give the One X Plus a try
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Assuming this isn't a troll post....
I have an issue with Chrome looking up on certain websites. It seems to be an issue with Flash. I do not have the problem with the stock browser. I've seen that complaint with Chrome across multiple Android platforms on XDA and other android-focused sites.
The WiFi performance is good. I have a new (2 week old) Airport Extreme. The OG does not have a WiFi issue in my apartment, and my building of 12 apartments all have wireless networks. I too have noticed that the icon shows a "low" signal for some time after signing on to a network but that the bars return to a more appropriate level shortly thereafter. I noticed this on the Airport, a DDWRT WRT54G and a NetGear DIR-625. There is no performance issue, just an idiot light thing.
I am at the office at the moment. I've attached a screenshot. This is my OG connected to a Linksys WRT54GS at a cubicle on the other side of the floor. It's a rather large office building.
I had an iPhone 3GS that died. I played with an iPhone 5 for some time at the Apple store before I decided I wanted to try something new. For completeness I also didn't want to pay more than $299 for something I could get for $199+ discounts. The LG Optimus G is not any slower or less responsive than the 5. I'm not sure where the "way" comes from.
intercede007 said:
Assuming this isn't a troll post....
I have an issue with Chrome looking up on certain websites. It seems to be an issue with Flash. I do not have the problem with the stock browser. I've seen that complaint with Chrome across multiple Android platforms on XDA and other android-focused sites.
The WiFi performance is good. I have a new (2 week old) Airport Extreme. The OG does not have a WiFi issue in my apartment, and my building of 12 apartments all have wireless networks. I too have noticed that the icon shows a "low" signal for some time after signing on to a network but that the bars return to a more appropriate level shortly thereafter. I noticed this on the Airport, a DDWRT WRT54G and a NetGear DIR-625. There is no performance issue, just an idiot light thing.
I am at the office at the moment. I've attached a screenshot. This is my OG connected to a Linksys WRT54GS at a cubicle on the other side of the floor. It's a rather large office building.
I had an iPhone 3GS that died. I played with an iPhone 5 for some time at the Apple store before I decided I wanted to try something new. For completeness I also didn't want to pay more than $299 for something I could get for $199+ discounts. The LG Optimus G is not any slower or less responsive than the 5. I'm not sure where the "way" comes from.
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I play with an iPhone 5 randomly when I want to try a game that is not on Android since my Roomie has one and it is in no way snappier than this phone, he even agrees this phone is better in all aspects and would have it himself if his work did not make him have an iphone.
Yeah I knew I was going to be killed for making my statement, didn't mean to stir the pot.
I go thru phones, but I have a all Apple Eco system at the house, I did use the GS3 for over 3 months before the iPhone 5 came out and I was still upset about the crappy small screen on it not to mention the, yawn UI. That's why I keep trying out these Android phones.
The one thing about the iPhone is it's very sold hardware and software wise, not saying the OG is not, but its a much more simple UI so it just works.
The OG UI is very cool, much nicer than the HTC's or the Samsung's IMO, that's one reason I chose it, but its a big slippery phone too boot.
I also don't like that the voice search bar is way up in the upper left, I can't get my thumb to hit it when I'm driving vs I can use Siri to voice text, nav ect with a quick press of the home button.
I'm going to play with the OG for a few more days, but I would like to try out the new Nexus 4, seems to be all of the OG but in a better package less the storage, I don't think I can make do with a lousy 16 gig, I mean reallly 16 gis total, what are they thinking and no LTE, I need LTE!!!
Another issue I'm having with this phone is when I come back into the house the WiFi does NOT auto reconnect.
I've messed with the setting and it requires me to go into the WiFi to connect. I'm sure this is not correct, anyone have this issue??
bothfly said:
Another issue I'm having with this phone is when I come back into the house the WiFi does NOT auto reconnect.
I've messed with the setting and it requires me to go into the WiFi to connect. I'm sure this is not correct, anyone have this issue??
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No. And I have an AirPort Extreme that it is connected to right now. Try and configure the ATT Smart Wi-Fi app. Helped my girlfriends Atrix when it was doing something similar.
android not for everyone
bothfly said:
Yeah I think I'm going back to the iPhone 5.
This phone is a tad too big and there is nothing to hold on too to give it some grip.
I looked at a few cases today at the ATT Store and all were crap.
I also miss Siri and all the easy voice commands as well as the new Google app for IOS is like having Jelly Bean on the iPhone.
Its a nice phone but oh well, gota love Best Buy for the returns....
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I had the IP4 for 6mos and could never make it work for me. however, for most people I know (family and such) iOS is the way to go. If you can handle the limitations inherent in iOS and especially iTunes, and the smallish 4" screen, then the IP5 is a really nice piece of hardware and hard to beat. I'm especially impressed with how they managed to *increase* battery life after adding LTE. very impressive.
intercede007 said:
No. And I have an AirPort Extreme that it is connected to right now. Try and configure the ATT Smart Wi-Fi app. Helped my girlfriends Atrix when it was doing something similar.
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This works. I deactivated the Smart Wifi app, and everything is working smooth as silk. Easy fix.

LG Optimus L90 or Samsung Galaxy Light?

Just a quick question:
T-Mobile has a pretty nice deal going on, where you can purchase a combination of two smartphones (LG Optimus L90 or Samsung Galaxy Light) for a total of $100 + tax!
After hearing this sweet deal, I had to go out and purchase one of those phones, and so I went with the Samsung Galaxy Light, as my brother who will be entering his senior year of high school never had a smartphone in his life. I have heard great things about the Samsung Galaxy Light, but never looked into the LG L90 until I got home, and it looks like it is a 4.7 inch phone vs. the Samsung Galaxy Light's 4 inch screen.
My question is, after looking at the details, which phone is superior then the other? One phone would serve for my brother (he is going to download games and what not, so I figured the 1.4GHz would be superior to LG's 1.2GHz?) and the other phone would serve as a backup (always good to have one laying around!)
Would love to hear your insight on which phone you would chose and why, my brother doesn't care about what phone he gets, just wants an Android that has something he can take pictures with and download tons of apps/games. At the moment, he really is happy with the Light, but I can always switch the other phone to the LG L90, if it is worth the trip to the T-Mobile trip, of course.
BTW: Before someone suggests another phone, I really am looking for something CHEAP, and having an external MicroSD card slot really is a big deal!
Thanks!
darkgiant said:
Just a quick question:
T-Mobile has a pretty nice deal going on, where you can purchase a combination of two smartphones (LG Optimus L90 or Samsung Galaxy Light) for a total of $100 + tax!
After hearing this sweet deal, I had to go out and purchase one of those phones, and so I went with the Samsung Galaxy Light, as my brother who will be entering his senior year of high school never had a smartphone in his life. I have heard great things about the Samsung Galaxy Light, but never looked into the LG L90 until I got home, and it looks like it is a 4.7 inch phone vs. the Samsung Galaxy Light's 4 inch screen.
My question is, after looking at the details, which phone is superior then the other? One phone would serve for my brother (he is going to download games and what not, so I figured the 1.4GHz would be superior to LG's 1.2GHz?) and the other phone would serve as a backup (always good to have one laying around!)
Would love to hear your insight on which phone you would chose and why, my brother doesn't care about what phone he gets, just wants an Android that has something he can take pictures with and download tons of apps/games. At the moment, he really is happy with the Light, but I can always switch the other phone to the LG L90, if it is worth the trip to the T-Mobile trip, of course.
BTW: Before someone suggests another phone, I really am looking for something CHEAP, and having an external MicroSD card slot really is a big deal!
Thanks!
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I have no issues with my L90. Quad core 1.2 ghz BTW , 4 GB internal storage ( user data ), 2 GB system storage. I think 1 GB RAM is advertised by in actuality it's a little over 800 MB. Device is pretty quick. There is a CM11 ( 4.4.4 ) ROM that's fairly stable and with most things working already available for the L90 as well. For most, myself included, the L90 is much much faster running CM11 than stock. Just my opinion tho I paid $150 for mine so if you can get one for $100 I'd climb all over it. LMAO...
Decisions decisions...
Thanks for your response!
I currently have the two Samsung Galaxy Lights... I was wondering if it is worth the extra trip to switch it for the L90's? Just curious since I didn't even look into the phone before buying it...
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Bump? Would love to get more insight on this!
darkgiant said:
My question is, after looking at the details, which phone is superior then the other? One phone would serve for my brother (he is going to download games and what not, so I figured the 1.4GHz would be superior to LG's 1.2GHz?) and the other phone would serve as a backup (always good to have one laying around!)
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Between these 2 phones, the main choice is bigger screen vs faster data. The 4.0" screen on the Light is pretty small. The status bar is cramped, the notification menu takes up a ton of space, typing is a bit iffy, and it's obviously not the best choice for watching videos or playing games. But it has LTE data.
The bigger screen on the L90 is definitely better for easier use and viewing. Pixel density is practically identical to the Light, so text won't be any clearer, but there'll be more of it. However, the L90 doesn't have LTE. Heck, it doesn't even have 42.2Mb/s HSDPA+, only 21.1Mb/s. Thankfully T-Mobile has a very good 3G network wherever they have LTE, so speeds are still pretty decent (for example, in Tucson, T-Mo's 3G speeds are better than Sprint's LTE - although that's not saying much). You could see speeds as slow as 1/3 or 1/4 those of LTE.
If you use wi-fi at home and maybe even at work, I'd go with the L90. If you want to stream music or use it as a mp3 player, and don't care as much about games/video or browsing, go with the Galaxy Light since it's smaller and has LTE.
shinobisoft said:
I think 1 GB RAM is advertised by in actuality it's a little over 800 MB.
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Some RAM on every device is set aside for the GPU.
Planterz said:
Between these 2 phones, the main choice is bigger screen vs faster data. The 4.0" screen on the Light is pretty small. The status bar is cramped, the notification menu takes up a ton of space, typing is a bit iffy, and it's obviously not the best choice for watching videos or playing games. But it has LTE data.
The bigger screen on the L90 is definitely better for easier use and viewing. Pixel density is practically identical to the Light, so text won't be any clearer, but there'll be more of it. However, the L90 doesn't have LTE. Heck, it doesn't even have 42.2Mb/s HSDPA+, only 21.1Mb/s. Thankfully T-Mobile has a very good 3G network wherever they have LTE, so speeds are still pretty decent (for example, in Tucson, T-Mo's 3G speeds are better than Sprint's LTE - although that's not saying much). You could see speeds as slow as 1/3 or 1/4 those of LTE.
If you use wi-fi at home and maybe even at work, I'd go with the L90. If you want to stream music or use it as a mp3 player, and don't care as much about games/video or browsing, go with the Galaxy Light since it's smaller and has LTE.
Some RAM on every device is set aside for the GPU.
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Thanks for your detailed response! Yes you are right, I am majority of the times on WiFi, and so would be my brother (whether at home, or at work). That being said, I goes the LTE doesn't make that much of a difference, or at least for me.
My brother essentially would just download multiple apps and just watch videos on YouTube and various other online sources. He also wants to game, a lot.
With all that being said, so you feel getting the L90 would be a better idea for the long run?
Thanks once again!
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darkgiant said:
Thanks for your detailed response! Yes you are right, I am majority of the times on WiFi, and so would be my brother (whether at home, or at work). That being said, I goes the LTE doesn't make that much of a difference, or at least for me.
My brother essentially would just download multiple apps and just watch videos on YouTube and various other online sources. He also wants to game, a lot.
With all that being said, so you feel getting the L90 would be a better idea for the long run?
Thanks once again!
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Yeah, the L90 would probably be the better choice in this case. Bigger battery and better camera than the GL too. And the IPS-LCD screen on the L90, although not having higher pixel density, should be of better quality than the TFT screen of the GL.
A co-worker of mine was faced with the same dilemma, and is going with the L90 as well, since he'll use wi-fi at home, and the 3G speeds in Tucson are plenty for streaming music while he takes the bus across town.
Planterz said:
Yeah, the L90 would probably be the better choice in this case. Bigger battery and better camera than the GL too. And the IPS-LCD screen on the L90, although not having higher pixel density, should be of better quality than the TFT screen of the GL.
A co-worker of mine was faced with the same dilemma, and is going with the L90 as well, since he'll use wi-fi at home, and the 3G speeds in Tucson are plenty for streaming music while he takes the bus across town.
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Glad to hear! My original assumption was the 1.4GHz was the way to go, as I assumed it would be faster performance wise (as I was just looking for the fastest phone), but I guess the fact that the processor is not that heard of in the community may be a bit of a risk (in terms of compatiablity) versus the L90 which seems to be popular within the Android community, especially with XDA.
Thanks for your insight! Going to swap both phones first thing tomorrow!
darkgiant said:
Glad to hear! My original assumption was the 1.4GHz was the way to go, as I assumed it would be faster performance wise (as I was just looking for the fastest phone), but I guess the fact that the processor is not that heard of in the community may be a bit of a risk (in terms of compatiablity) versus the L90 which seems to be popular within the Android community, especially with XDA.
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Honestly, the extra 200MHz of the Galaxy Light's Exynos is wasted (and probably more) running the heavy TouchWiz interface. The L90 has a Snapdragon 400, which means an Adreno 305 GPU, which is superior to the Mali-400 the GL has.
I vote for L90, bigger screen, better battery and "self-healing" coating. You may choose samsung if you need performance but i think 1.2gz vs 1.4gz wont gain you any benefit except playing heavy 3d game
So it turns out that all the LG L90's are now backtracked, and there is some sort of "Restocking Fee" of $50 if I were to return both phones.
I told the sales representative that the the person never mentioned of the L90's, but she really kept on complaining that its not her fault (she was the manager). I personally have worked sales jobs as a teenager, but boy, the service at the store was complete crap.
She later goes on claiming the phones are pretty identical, with the screen size being bigger on the LG, but the processor is faster on the Samsung Galaxy Light, making it a far superior phone to the LG L90.
Apparently, if the phone is broken, unusable (OS is slow) then they can return the phone, but I dunno if using that excuse would get me any farther, to be honest.
Do you guys think its worth the hassle at this point?
Sorry but there are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!
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