Ok so i HATE the car home launching on the dock, my X2 and OG Droid used a magnet to trigger the home but Razr uses a resistor in the usb pins. Without proper tools to rework the internal wiring i decided to completely replace the usb internals with a oem moto charger (from my X2 bundle) and hey it turned out well, and actually slides in better than before. (i had the phone in the dock plugged in when i applied the bonding agent to the back of the mount to ensure it was lined up correctly)
Want to sell the old guts?
I'd like to know how to make my phone go into dock mode without a dock.
My car has a place to sit the phone that works great but, no auto rotate.
Its junk to me, message me your address and I'll throw it in the mail in an envelope. The 43c is on me
If you haven't mailed it out, would you mind taking some full-on, hi-res pics of the components on the board? Might help those looking to simulate a dock connection without shelling out for the moto dock.
Sure I'll snap some shots of it and post them here.
Looking those pictures, I bet that's the same PCB inside the Webtop Travel Adapter. I just wonder if you could solder a USB A Male connector on the usb leads in place of the micro USB connector and then plug it into a usb hub connected to the y adapter w/power and OTG Cable and enable webtop...
Board closeups.
If you install the google car home app it will allow you to exit car mode while docked..no need to mod it.
I got the app here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081009
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If you install the Google car home app it will allow you to exit car mode while docked..no need to mod it.
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The problem isn't leaving the home app, its that it launches any launcher at all, it messes up things im doing example docking a paused netflix movie. Also more importantly it was causing hell with my launcher7, blanking out icons and such, even with a app that launches no car dock it still launches that app as a "home".
I get in and out of my car 20-50 times a day, i wish you could just disable the car dock in the system settings. all in all im happy with the dock now, the slider fits perfect now, before i had to wiggle it.
Why not just freeze the dock app?
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How solid is the mount for if it were to be used for video capture while the car is in motion. I used to use my old HTC Incredible for OnBoard "GoPro" like video while I drive at the track. If this is solid I plan on doing the same.
Um...isn't there an app for blocking the dock app (NoDock). Requires root.
Been on vacation. Thanks for snapping the pics!
I have the opposite problem, my razr dont detect car dock, without this not working audio-by-microusb cable (original cardock cool feature). Help me, software reasons already excluded.
who may help me? may any software force _real_ car mode?
After 4 years my RAZR is finally dead (RIP) and I replaced it with another smartphone (Lenovo, but who cares)
One of the features I miss from RAZR is it beautiful car dock with charger, and the phone's ability to enter/exit car mode automatically.
So it's interesting if it's possible to try and use it, after some modification, on other phones
Razr uses a resistor in the usb pins
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The question : what does the phone do for this detection ? is it pure hardware particular implementation or any phone is capable to detect this type of wiring and it's just a matter of software to do something with it?
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Alright, yes I know how to use the search function and I can launch the Car Dock application itself just fine with the previously mentioned shortcut, however I need to switch the mode itself apparently (i.e. with the steering wheel icon onscreen).
I own a Car Dock but I want to be able to use the included cable that supports both charging and audio output in one cord. THAT only works in Dock Mode (in fact it doesnt even charge when plugged directly in, let alone route the audio to the 3.5mm jack.
I have to say that so far the thought put into the Motorola accessories like this dock blow away the HTC options and this Micro-USB to combo USB/3.5mm is exactly what I need but sometimes I just want to be able to only plug in ONE cord.
Any thoughts?
Im not sure what you are asking -- I disabled the Car Dock application by telling Tasker to open by default when plugged in.. I get MEDIA audio through the audio plug from the car dock.
Like I said, along with the car dock there is a combo cord, Micro USB to plug into the phone and USB on the other end for power as well as a female headphone jack. This cord usually plugs into the back of the dock which just extends it to the Micro-USB plug in the cradle that you set the phone into. I want to use the cord only, plugged directly into the phone.
Unfortunately the phone only routes audio out through the Micro-USB port when its in car dock mode, this is separate from the car dock app running and is denoted by the steering wheel icon in the top bar of the screen. Its switched into this mode by the previously mentioned magnets in the car dock, I need a way to switch it on some other way.
The cord is convenient because you only have to plug ONE thing in and you have both power and audio. Make sense?
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The cord is convenient because you only have to plug ONE thing in and you have both power and audio. Make sense?
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Believe me, convenience makes sense to me.. I took the HD dock, and modified it so that it could be mounted to a ProClip swivel mount.. Part of that involved opening up the actual dock.. There is an IC inside the dock mount, if I recall - and I suspect that may be doing some playing around with the USB/audio split function. I did not see any magnets in there. The phone knows the difference between the HD Dock and the Car Dock - so I suspect the IC is giving it some of its info to determine that. I am not sure if magnets are being used this time around.
Does anyone know if the remote that comes with the web-dock combo will work while the phone is in the car dock? It would be a great feature and a lot safer to change songs while you are driving.
When I first got my Photon I had a problem getting the phone to seat properly in the dock using the Sprint case with holster. The case was hitting the raised area around the connectors because the hole in the case wasn't big enough, so I took a small file and carefully enlarged the hole so it could seat properly. I said all of that to say this; The phone appeared to be seated enough to be docked but was off just enough to not get a good connection. If there was anything magnet related it would have been in the dock enough to have been activated. There is definitely something in the dock that is being monitored to put it in Car Mode. If I get a chance today I'll do some testing to try and determine what is going on.
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Been offline while doing some other things or I'd have replied earlier but yeah, the magnet idea was just a guess based on other reports here, I've not had a chance to disassemble mine to see whats goin' on in there.
I have to say I'm not a huge fan of the fit and finish on the dock as it relates to the way the integrated connector mates with the phone, it has an odd angle on it and even then doesnt seat all the way. Thats both with and without my slim case, both with and without the included. I dont have the bulky chrome Dell-looking Sprint case but its SUPPOSED to accept that one if you remove the spacer insert in the dock.
Has anyone else experienced bad audio distortion while using the car dock? I noticed that when I unplug the charging cord it sounds fine...
I have not experienced this, maybe a bad ground on your charging port?
sent straight from my brain....
is there any way to correct that?
add another ground. I would try another car adaptor first though or your set up in another car. That will help narrow it down to the car or the set up.
Another thing to note is it might be dirty power. The way i hooked up the radio in the saab i have a constant humm (raised ground floor) due to a small fan that always runs on the same circuit i pulled either accessory power or the switched light feed. Hence why I am saying to try it in another car.
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Has anyone else experienced bad audio distortion while using the car dock? I noticed that when I unplug the charging cord it sounds fine...
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Are you using the USB charger that came with the dock?
At first I just used my own USB charger I all ready had in the car and got audio distortion ...
I switch to the one Motorola included with the car dock and audio was clear as a bell
Have any of you guys found the neck to be a bit short for windshield mounting? I was thinking of getting this one to replace an old bracketron bracket I have but I doing know if the neck is long enough to see and manipulate the screen properly.
I am going to try a ground loop isolator to see if that makes a difference!
I'm having an issue with the car dock and audio when a song first starts off. When the audio starts I hear a popping sound. It does it when I first open the stock music player or anytime a new song starts with Slacker radio. It also does it when I first open tune in radio or when it restarts music after losing a connection (buffering). It seems to only do it when I plug into the adaptor which attaches to the mini USB plug. If I plug it directly into the phone through the headphone jack, it plays fine without any popping sound. Is this a common problem, or do I have a bum car dock? If some others can try their docks out, this would be great so I know if it is a common issue or not. It seems to be more pronounced at high volumes.
I'm not having any distortion but mine won't charge. I thought that it might be the cord but it will charge my wife's EVO, so I then took the cord into the house and used a wall plug and tried to see if it would charge that way. No luck.
It seems to charge using everything else but that cord even though that same cord WILL charge other phones????
I'm going to return it and get a different one but was wondering if anyone has had this issue at all?
Just weird...
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If I use another USB it will charge and all but not go into dock mode. I still don't understand why it would charge other phone models but not the MoPho itself...
Yeah if you unplug the usb cord from the dock it def. wont charge the MoPho. My girl tried to charge her droid 2 on it too and it wont work. I assume it was designed that way.. motorola.. go figure
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Yeah if you unplug the usb cord from the dock it def. wont charge the MoPho. My girl tried to charge her droid 2 on it too and it wont work. I assume it was designed that way.. motorola.. go figure
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It's not charging it either way, whether its plugged into the dock or just having the cable plugged directly into the MoPho but it will charge the wife's 3VO plugging the cord directly into hers.
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Has anyone else experienced bad audio distortion while using the car dock? I noticed that when I unplug the charging cord it sounds fine...
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Are you in a Honda by chance? Honda's are infamous for this... anything that's connected to both a 12V output and an audio line in is going to have feedback unless you do some hacking. This is based on experience with 4 vehicles and probably a dozen car chargers, 5-6 phones, mp3 adapators, ipods, 2-3 car decks, etc. over the years (and confirmed by others). The only luck I've had mitigating it was to use a ground loop isolator (at least, I think that's what I used - writing from memory) on the car stereo power feed itself. I tried a ground noise filter on the audio line once and that helped very little.
You'll have the same problem if you try an FM modulator, but not if you use bluetooth audio, so that's what I do now.
Not having any problems with sound or charge but Nav went wonky today.
Edit: Kia Rio 2009
I have had the car dock for about 3 weeks - in Mercedes - it is working fine, charging OK sound OK, I have it set up so the bottom of the base rests on the dash - works well.
So they can work -
Any one have suggestions for a protective case that will work with car dock? I want my phone to slide into car dock and table top dock without having to take case off.
i'd love an answer to this too!
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Any one have suggestions for a protective case that will work with car dock? I want my phone to slide into car dock and table top dock without having to take case off.
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I updated in the other main Seidio cases thread ... with some minor tweaking the Surface case definitely fits the car dock (can't confirm the other dock yet until I pick one up this week).
I have an Otterbox Commuter that works fine with a small modification. Remove the small plastic bridge over the ports and it fits the dock nicely.
I purchased the 89529N Motorola Navigation dock and for some reason it's not recognizing my Droid Razr.
I watched several videos on youtube and it showed the Razr entering car mode as soon as placed into the dock and the sliding micro-USB plug inserted.
While my droid recognizes that it's charging, it doesn't enter Car Mode, does not launch the Motorola Car Finder app upon removal nor does it output audio via the USB-Audio Cable.
I've spent some time looking to see if other people are having this issue and the only other report I've found is a review on the product via Amazon:
amazon.com/Motorola-89525N-Vehicle-Navigation-Charger/product-reviews/B005W8NLG0/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
I have now gone through 3 of these docking stations. I WANT it to work but after the phone snaps into the mount (nicely managed) there is a squared black slider that has the male USB end that is supposed to slide into the top of the phone's USB port. This connection was flaky in the first two units i purchased and i ended up needing to slide a business card in behind the phone to put enough pressure to cause the phone Car App to start and for the port to think it had a power cable inserted...
The business card approach finally quit working this morning (11.21.2011) so I took the unit into a local Verizon Store and showed them. This happened with 3 RAZR phones from the store so it was not the phone. I then ended up going through 3 of the car dock boxes and the first two ALSO had this problem. The third unit worked but i had to push the black slider back a tad to put some positive pressure on it before it will slide into the phones USB port...
I need this thing to work. I want the Car Nav App to start and for the phone to charge... Verizon, you need to take a look at the design of this device. The quality of it seems fine. It is sturdy and mounts wonderfully but the slider idea seems to be a problem.
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So, does anyone else with this dock have the same problem?
I had the same issue with mine. It worked for the first few days then it tanked. Returned to Verizon for another unit. This one has been working for the past.
Check the RAZR forums on the Motorola support site and there are several other folks that have been experiencing the same issue.
No problems at all with the car dock. I use it daily and it has always worked as advertised.
How long is the power cable the comes with the version of the car dock that comes with a power cable?
If it's not super long I may just buy the cheaper version of the dock.
I had the same problems with my first dock. I returned it and got another and so far so good. A couple of times it's failed to recognize the phone, but sliding out the usb and putting it back usually fixes it.
I bought the car dock and so far it works perfect. I drove about 1100 miles over the holidays, and it worked perfectly the entire trip with a CHEAP generic micro USB cable and CHEAP generic car charger from monoprice.com Phone was running GPS and nav the whole time and I was impressed that it never got hot or too warm (just EVER SO SLIGHTLY warm. My old HTC Incredible would get hot as hell running GPS for several hours)
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How long is the power cable the comes with the version of the car dock that comes with a power cable?
If it's not super long I may just buy the cheaper version of the dock.
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I did have the problem when I first received the dock. After studying the dock I realized the bottom plate can be removed. I did just that and the holder works great. Can even use it with the protection case.
I've also had my car dock for some time now and have been using it with a commuter series OtterBox. I've seen no problems with it, in fact while running Google navigation since the new update I've not seen any substantial overheating issues at all. Overall I'm very pleased with its operation. It is a little disconcerting to hear several of you have had problems with it.
I have not had any issues with this dock. The HD dock, yes but so far I love this navigation dock over the one my Thunderbolt and Original Moto Droid had. However, where do you people find this USB/Audio cable? I purchased the mount right from verizon and it did not come with it. Can't seem to find the cable anywhere either.
h1p1n3: http://www.store.motorola.com/dp/B005NDKQ3K
It doesn't have a picture and the description makes it sound like a basic usb cable that's really expensive, but I ordered it for the same reason you are and I can assure you that it is a basic USB cable that's really expensive... with the audio dongle on the end. At $20 it's a bit of a rip-off, but it's what you need.
mine works like a champ, it gets used on a daily basis.
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I just bought the car dock, is there a way to setup a alternative navigation app?
I want to use Sygic instead of Google Maps. Anyone?
b.o.n.s said:
I just bought the car dock, is there a way to setup a alternative navigation app?
I want to use Sygic instead of Google Maps. Anyone?
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You can add an app of your choice on the "Music" page of the Navigation app.
Thanks found it! i hope Moto will update the Car Dock so you can choose your own software
I don't have my Razr yet to test this, but try the Car Home Ultra app. It's fully customizable and can be launched by the dock.
I purchased a car dock its work for me fine.
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I don't have my Razr yet to test this, but try the Car Home Ultra app. It's fully customizable and can be launched by the dock.
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I've had my car dock now for about a month, and it works like a charm for me. Car Home Ultra is a great app and you can add a bunch of different apps to it's home screen so you can set it up the way you want.
I have 2 car docks it use to work on both now it doesn't work on either of them, ever since i re flashed using 9.8.2O-124_SPUL-18_Rogers_P005_A006_S1FF_fb_CFC.xml.
droid razr m Vehicle navigation dock
just got mine yesterday and hooked it up no problem Love it
plays slacker and maps at the same time and the phone calls come through my speakers and my wife can here me very clear
Love mine
took out my Garmin and the 17mm ball mount works with the droid razr m Vehicle navigation dock
Hello!
I'm planning to but original dock for my RAZR, and I see that there are two versions of it. What are differences between them?
http://www.motorolastore.eu/pl/p_motorola_product.aspx?i=225118
http://www.motorolastore.eu/pl/p_motorola_product.aspx?i=225121
It bugging me, since they are looking the same but the second one is much more expensive. And description is the same.
Cheaper one has only one USB port for charging, another is equipped with hub and three USB ports. HDMI micro socket is in both models.
Ed. Ale bardziej opłaca się złożyć samemu =]
Also, The more expensive dock has a standalone Firefox web browser. I purchased the more expensive one and use a usb mouse and a bluetooth keyboard and it's like having a full PC on your TV through the HDMI cable. You could probably do the same thing with the less expensive dock if you have a Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard combo but I am pretty sure you can only go into mirror on display mode vs the full webtop application. Either way, I think it would be a worthwhile purchase in my opinion. I enjoy using it.
Additionally I was told that the less expensive model does not include the mini HDMI cable. Not sure if that would influence your decision or not.
I'm just wondering. And I don't mean to jack the mans thread, but has a powered USB hub ever been successfully patched into the dock interface? If its easy enough I might try modding mine.
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So, basically in more expensive model you can access Webtop, while in cheaper one, you can't, right? Or am I wrong and it's only USB ports and browser difference?
Also, lack of HDMI cable is no problem. I can get one easily xD
The one I have has no USB ports. It only has HDMI, Audio and a micro USB charging port. I'm just wondering if a USB splitter can be added some way?
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But can you acces Webtop App like on more expensive one? If it doesn't have Webtop app then it's not worth to buy it.
Also I have questions for other. Is it possible to attach normal USB hub to it and make it work like expensive dock? I mean, connect normal HUB with three normal USB slots and one microUSB for charging. Is it even possible without tearing dock apart? I know it's less stylish then buying expensive one, but unfortunatelly I can't afford it xD Life is brutal and stuff.
Webtop is in your phone, not the dock. The docks play some tricks with USB pins so the phone knows which dock it's in and which mode to activate.
People have used USB hubs to add devices to the RAZR, with or without a dock. The only caveat is that the hub must have its own power supply and you may have to make a cable to have it work. Google around for it.
The ICS leak (.211/OTA?, at least) will enable webtop without using a dock at all. Just plug in an HDMI cable and you're good.
Confirming. I've got the simple dock for free with the costco verizon deal recently. No mHDMI cable included. However the web top works the same through the dock as with the cable only (upgraded to ICS right away, so can't tell for GB, but who cares now, as JB is coming? ). Tinkering with the idea of installing a USB hub board inside the dock. Looks straight forward, just need to measure the inside compartment to get a proper hub for parts.
Hi all,
i'm looking for to buy a Razr Maxx.
Now I have Milestone 2 and it have a simple method to "understand" Car Dock Mode, It have a gauss sensor on its back. This sensors recognoize a magnet on the dock and switch the phone to car dock. I purchased a little thin magnet and with some glue attached it to an universal holder.
This switched my universal holder to a Motorola Car Dock ).
I have to use a universal car dock, because i don't want to remove phone from silicon shell every time i use in the car, so i do not want to use a motorola cardock.
Reading around i found that Razr and Razr Maxx, do not have this magnet sensor, but the switch to car dock is hanled by special connection into USB cable.
So I would like to know it there is a USB Cable that switch phone to Cardock. Also a schema of the cable it's enought I can made by myself.
Many Thanks
Marco
There's no cable that activates car dock. However, I'm puzzled why you're not looking for software to activate car dock, or an alternative car dock app.
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There's no cable that activates car dock. However, I'm puzzled why you're not looking for software to activate car dock, or an alternative car dock app.
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Hi, app require my interaction with the phone interface, after placing phone on the cradle and connecting cable. 3 Action to switch in car mode, in front of 2 action i done today simply placing and connecting to power cord.
This is reason whi i'm looking for a cable like this for HTC one X: http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-usb-cable-activates-car-dock-app.html