which has better batt life? cm7 or miui?
I used CGM 7.1 on my SGS i9000 and battery lasted 10-12 hours, no better no worse than the previous stock Eclaire ROM. But I gained 300 MHz in cpu speed. I use the SGS extensively during the day, mostly connected to HSPA network. Can't help you on MIUI since I didn't try that one though.
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I used CGM 7.1 on my SGS i9000 and battery lasted 10-12 hours, no better no worse than the previous stock Eclaire ROM. But I gained 300 MHz in cpu speed. I use the SGS extensively during the day, mostly connected to HSPA network. Can't help you on MIUI since I didn't try that one though.
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hey gustaftoni.. its ridiculous.. many people recommend cm7 over sense. they say sense is a battery hog and that cm7 fixes all battery draining issues. yet, when you install cm7, the first thing you notice is battery drain. i seriously dont understand why people make stupid claims like this.
So you own a Htc. I own a Samsung, so I didn't have htcsense. Maybe the Samsung rom was already optimized for a good battery life. Anyway I get the same battery life but with processor speed of 1300 MHz instead of 1000. I assume batt life would be longer at stock speed. Try an app like juicedefender or similar for longer battery life, that will sort much more effect than changing rom. Cheers
or set lower clock speeds when screen offs
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Try an app like juicedefender or similar for longer battery life, that will sort much more effect than changing rom. Cheers
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i'll think about it. but i'd rather go into the file system and manually tweak my settings. thanks.
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or set lower clock speeds when screen offs
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hi bs.. can you tell me what files in my phone to edit to lower clock speeds when the screen is off? also, i have max clock speed at 768 and min at 245. i'd like to lower max to around 500. but the lowest option after that is 368. like i said, is there a file that i can tweak the max to a lower setting between 768 and 368?
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...if you can (without stalling your device). The min for my SGS is 100 MHz and I'm already there. Besides some Roms do not support low speeds as well as other ones do. Just like overclocking, underclocking requires luck.
I have used both, and I can't say for sure, but I think CM7 is faster.
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So you own a Htc. I own a Samsung, so I didn't have htcsense. Maybe the Samsung rom was already optimized for a good battery life. Anyway I get the same battery life but with processor speed of 1300 MHz instead of 1000. I assume batt life would be longer at stock speed. Try an app like juicedefender or similar for longer battery life, that will sort much more effect than changing rom. Cheers
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Don't think of installing juice defender. Instead of increasing battery life it rather decreases it by high usage!! Used it for about 2 months.. uninstalled it and felt much better, smooth battery..
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I prefer CM7
i think CM7 is better
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I have used both, and I can't say for sure, but I think CM7 is faster.
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me too,i have used both,i think CM7 is better.
now i use ligux, nice too.
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I have a doubt: when not in use, the CPU is downclocked or work at 1.2Ghz.
If it isn't downclocked, there an app or something else that could be that? I think that could be usefull to improve battery life.
Download CPU Spy to monitor the CPU. It should go into deep sleep when idle.
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I have a doubt: when not in use, the CPU is downclocked or work at 1.2Ghz.
If it isn't downclocked, there an app or something else that could be that? I think that could be usefull to improve battery life.
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Normal settings are for it to only run at 1.2 GHz when loaded. Also, in addition to downclocking, the CPU can go into "deep sleep" where everything shuts off.
The specific clock management settings can be tuned with an app like SetCPU.
Stock frequencies are 200, 500, 800, 1000, 1200 MHz.
I'm wondering if there's a way yo improve battery life... maybe it's better to install a custom rom?
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I'm wondering if there's a way yo improve battery life... maybe it's better to install a custom rom?
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Most people seem to gain battery life on custom roms. There are several to play with and, once you get over the initial hurdle of getting one installed the first time, you won't want to go back!
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I'm wondering if there's a way yo improve battery life... maybe it's better to install a custom rom?
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A couple options which I do myself are run all speeds undervolted by about 50 and set Max speed at 1000Mhz. Not sure if it makes a huge difference on battery life but it definitely doesn't ruin the performance, that I can tell.
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Even 800 doesn't ruin the performance enough to start caring. Once I jump a new kernel I'll start tweaking undervolting and even crazier profiles.
Install a custom rom that removes bloatware and known battery drainers, and undervolt the cpu/downclock it to save most of your battery. Theres many threads about battery life, I suggest you look though those.
What do you guys think is better smartassv2 or ondemand? I usually use smartassv2 but im not sure with the rezound.
I'm using ondemand and its been perfect for me. no rebooted and great battery life.
I flashed incredikernel 6 the day it was released weeks ago.
I use on-demand, I have not had a single reboot/bootloop etc yet & the battery life is super.
I use on demand with the stock Kernel (using cleanrom 3.5). I drop the cpu down to about 1.ghz and set a profile for on demand between 192 and 760 something when the screen is off. I only dropped about 3 percent a few nights ago while sleeping (6.5 hours roughly). (the phone doesn't go into sleep mode and I dont have a battery saver). I don't get that with my heavy usage, but that is a big plus.
Where do you guys get the download for ondemand? Back in the day when I had the OG Droid, everyone used SetCPU. Doesn't seem to be the app of choice any more to set frequencies. I can't find ondemand (or smartass for that matter) in the market. ANy suggestions?
I had been using ondemand up until a few days ago. The last couple days I have been using interactive, and it seems like both battery life and performance are somewhat better, although I have no hard numbers to support this, and I have really random usage.
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smartassv2 seems to be working well for me so far.
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Where do you guys get the download for ondemand? Back in the day when I had the OG Droid, everyone used SetCPU. Doesn't seem to be the app of choice any more to set frequencies. I can't find ondemand (or smartass for that matter) in the market. ANy suggestions?
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They're features on the kernel. When you install the kernel you'll be able to check which one you wanna use from the app. (SetCPU may be good, but it seems the apps of choice on the Rezound are AnTuTu or Systems Tuner Pro, I use AnTuTU.)
Or if you use incredikernel the app incredicontrol goes along with it perfectly and is 100% totally stable for me. I have tried every kernel there is both GB and ICS on my phone and incredikernel and the stock kernel are the only ones that will run stability test scaling stability test all night long without bootlooping.
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They're features on the kernel. When you install the kernel you'll be able to check which one you wanna use from the app. (SetCPU may be good, but it seems the apps of choice on the Rezound are AnTuTu or Systems Tuner Pro, I use AnTuTU.)
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Thank you so much for the reply. I am just sticking with the stock Kernal for now, but I was interested in undervolting the kernal while it's in sleep mode and while charging to see if I can save battery life. I just tried SetCPU, but was not pleased with the constant SU pop ups. It was keeping my screen awake. I think I'll five AnTuTu a shot.
If I ever load a custom kernal, I'll know what to keep an eye out for.
I have completely given up on undervolting at this point, I never once saw a noticeable increase in battery life but I definitely ended up with a less stable phone.........
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I have completely given up on undervolting at this point, I never once saw a noticeable increase in battery life but I definitely ended up with a less stable phone.........
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What we need are more custom kernels.
I have undervolted (Incredikernel with Incredicontrol) and it's quite stable and the battery life is pretty good. I can get 12 - 16 hours with the stock battery with medium usage (texting, browsing).
Interstingly, it was 10 - 12 with OnDemand. Interactive seems to be better.
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I have undervolted (Incredikernel with Incredicontrol) and it's quite stable and the battery life is pretty good. I can get 12 - 16 hours with the stock battery with medium usage (texting, browsing).
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Have you ever tried leaving all the settings exactly the same and NOT undervolting??
I would be willing to bet the battery life would be almost identical.
CPU Tuner is awesome also. Might be the best.
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Have you ever tried leaving all the settings exactly the same and NOT undervolting??
I would be willing to bet the battery life would be almost identical.
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Actually, yes. It did make a difference. Not as significant as on the Incredible, although that may be a difference in HAVS vs SVS.
But what works for one may not work for all.
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im hoping IMO ends up making a kernel for us. i know he makes them for the thunderbolt.
I'm pretty content with Inredikernel. I'm sure Chad is going to hit us with something awesome soon.
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I'm pretty content with Inredikernel. I'm sure Chad is going to hit us with something awesome soon.
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The more options the better though.
mighty_markus12 said:
The more options the better though.
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Well played sir. /bow
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Hey fellow XDAers
I'm currently running LeeDroids awesome GSM Rom, with his Kernel and a lot of others the stock speeds are 384mhz - 1.51ghz (using LagFree governor).
I'm just wondering is there any point of having it boosted from 1.18ghz to 1.51ghz or is it just overkill? I can see the Sense UI is slightly smoother, but I'm not really sure how the battery life is affected by the OC.
If I wanted to save battery life, would it be best to reduce it back to 1.18ghz or use a different governor (and what one?)
Thanks in advance,
Louis
Gsm and cdma processors default speeds are different?
overclocked
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Hey fellow XDAers
I'm currently running LeeDroids awesome GSM Rom, with his Kernel and a lot of others the stock speeds are 384mhz - 1.51ghz (using LagFree governor).
I'm just wondering is there any point of having it boosted from 1.18ghz to 1.51ghz or is it just overkill? I can see the Sense UI is slightly smoother, but I'm not really sure how the battery life is affected by the OC.
If I wanted to save battery life, would it be best to reduce it back to 1.18ghz or use a different governor (and what one?)
Thanks in advance,
Louis
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Yes i read overclocking do take a toll on ur battery just like an engine more horsepower/cylinder more gas lol if u really need the extra speed try juce defender or something to help save you your battery while over clocking. Hope this helps
I keep mine at 1.2ghz max as it is fast enough like that, and makes the battery last longer.
Yeah point off overclocking is that we don't need buy an new device to get some extra speed. But I think on 1.2 it runs fine to.
No sorry, I think I worded that incorrectly. I mean with custom Kernels they usually are 1.51ghz by default.
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Oh and do people know if by default it's 1.18 or 1.21? I know it's not much difference, but i'm a little ocd
lhayati said:
Oh and do people know if by default it's 1.18 or 1.21? I know it's not much difference, but i'm a little ocd
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1.18ghz /10char
If you want insane speed is what you gain tho you don't gain better battery life More speed the less life... . Both cores running all the time will eat it up.
If you push it too high you can burn it up.. Depends on what you want outta things...
Well the second core isn't so active as far as I know. It has been more designed to jump in when needed.
But reason most custom roms include an overclock off 1.51Ghz is because the cpu was designed for it, HTC just under clocked it, but in the HTC Sensation XE they not underclocked it.
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No sorry, I think I worded that incorrectly. I mean with custom Kernels they usually are 1.51ghz by default.
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Ah, I see now. I get what you're saying now. Overclocking is good, but becomes detrimental when the freq starts sucking the life out the battery.
Aren't we underclocked from the jump. I though Chad Goodman said the actual processor speed is 1.5 by default. Per Qualcomm specs at least.
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In short, yes.
OC'ing makes your phone much faster and, also helps out with benchmarks. However, battery saving is not an issue either. Most CPU control apps will allow you to set a different frequency when the phone is closed so it saves batter. For example, I'm on zr3d right now and my normal profile is 1.7x ghz. When the screen is off, it scales conservatively from 192 to 540 mhz. Gives better performance and better battery.
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In short, yes.
OC'ing makes your phone much faster and, also helps out with benchmarks. However, battery saving is not an issue either. Most CPU control apps will allow you to set a different frequency when the phone is closed so it saves batter. For example, I'm on zr3d right now and my normal profile is 1.7x ghz. When the screen is off, it scales conservatively from 192 to 540 mhz. Gives better performance and better battery.
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Lol That will save you life when your screen is off but not when your running a game or hammerin away at stuff
OC beyond Quallcoms spec 1.53ghz is pointless and good for nothing but killing your battery. There are a great many here who gush over high benchmarks but that means absolutely nothing in "real world" performance no matter how much they tell themselves that it does. Just sayin....
Thanks for all your reply's
But for the average use (browsing, video streaming, bit of gaming, messaging) what should I set as my max OC as? And what is the best governor for battery + performance.
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OC beyond Quallcoms spec 1.53ghz is pointless and good for nothing but killing your battery. There are a great many here who gush over high benchmarks but that means absolutely nothing in "real world" performance no matter how much they tell themselves that it does. Just sayin....
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Nope.jpeg. I was playing canabalt the other day at 1.5X ghz. It was the tiniest bit choppy so I upclocked to 1.7. Perfect performance and, also real world performance I believe(actually it's a game so its not real life).
Best settings I'd say would be 1.5 ghz on interactive/intellianthrax guvner while screenon and .5 or .3 ghz conservative/powersave while screen off. Or, for heavy stuff, go all the way up to 1.7/1.8 ghz.
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A combination that works for me - Miracle V3 ROM with the PureMotive battery mod and beta3.1 Ace Kernel. Thus far, almost 24 hours, no force closes, battery life much improved, stable at 844 oc, smartassV2 gov. Phone is not getting as heated as previously while playing any 3D game, it just feels faster and smoother...response time awaking from deep sleep is smooth, so many things seem to be functioning better.
Those who believe the improvement in battery life to be a placebo effect, I do not believe that to be the case. I could very rarely go past 6-7 hours without dropping to 10% power left. With this combination, I have gone more than 16 hours and still 40% power left to go.
I have tried so many roms and mods and they all worked really well, but most really did not improve battery life by more than a couple of hours. The battery mod really worked with the Miracle ROM (any CM7 I guess) and the beta-3 ace kernel also seems to be adding on to making the ace smooth, lag free even when underclocked to 424 max and 122 min, Smartass V2 and nook as default...in call profile 787 max 244 min.
Love and respect to all the Devs and all who mod and improve the creations...thank you so much and keep up the great work.
Peace, Love, Respect to All
yeah i tried PureMotive mode with beta3.1 Ace Kernel and with vo-1 rom... And i can tell that my battery drains slowest than before
what is that app use in the first screenshot?
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what is that app use in the first screenshot?
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I didn't get you, sir...app use?
i'm asking what is that app u use to show the nice battery graph in the first screenshot :/
The app is Battery Info...
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subscope said:
yeah i tried PureMotive mode with beta3.1 Ace Kernel and with vo-1 rom... And i can tell that my battery drains slowest than before
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Thanks...at least one more person has had a slower-draining battery. I was actually beginning to wonder if only I was seeing the positive changes or was I seeing a placebo effect. Thanks, again
trying...
Thank you for sharing,
Downloading and trying, give me a couple of days to test and post my sesations as soon as possible.
Great... Hope it does wonders for your ace as well...it sure has lessened the number of charges for me...
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Continuing to note the extension in battery life. Go Power Master is further adding to battery life in super-saver mode. In the nine months that I have had the ace, the max battery life I ever got was 12 hours on one occasion, that too only because I was not able to use wi-fi because the wi-fi modem had issues and could not be used. Today's snapshots are decisive. With Go Power Master, one full charge has lasted 20 hours and there is still 30% of the battery to be used.
Which one did you use?
One with semi colon or without?
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The first zip, i think that is the one with the semicolons...contemplated flashing the second zip but its going well so did not want to change
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The first zip, i think that is the one with the semicolons...contemplated flashing the second zip but its going well so did not want to change
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So it is safe to use the flashable zip directly?
donzzy said:
So it is safe to use the flashable zip directly?
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Yes my friend. I created it
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Yes my friend. I created it
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I see. What's your kernel governor?
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Smartass V2. Min 122, max 484. For gaming or intensive usage - min 122, max 864. using cpu master pro as find it a little faster than set CPU.
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Link please
jzmanz said:
A combination that works for me - Miracle V3 ROM with the PureMotive battery mod and beta3.1 Ace Kernel. Thus far, almost 24 hours, no force closes, battery life much improved, stable at 844 oc, smartassV2 gov. Phone is not getting as heated as previously while playing any 3D game, it just feels faster and smoother...response time awaking from deep sleep is smooth, so many things seem to be functioning better.
Those who believe the improvement in battery life to be a placebo effect, I do not believe that to be the case. I could very rarely go past 6-7 hours without dropping to 10% power left. With this combination, I have gone more than 16 hours and still 40% power left to go.
I have tried so many roms and mods and they all worked really well, but most really did not improve battery life by more than a couple of hours. The battery mod really worked with the Miracle ROM (any CM7 I guess) and the beta-3 ace kernel also seems to be adding on to making the ace smooth, lag free even when underclocked to 424 max and 122 min, Smartass V2 and nook as default...in call profile 787 max 244 min.
Love and respect to all the Devs and all who mod and improve the creations...thank you so much and keep up the great work.
Peace, Love, Respect to All
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can i get the link for pure motive mod please I searched everywhere
IntelHD3000 said:
can i get the link for pure motive mod please I searched everywhere
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Here you go --
Read through the entire thread to make an informed decision
http://forum.xda-developers.com showthread.php?t=1622882
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Yes my friend. I created it
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Shall i use v1 or v2 of your zip??
Well said mate, even i feel the same positive effect where many said it to be a placebo.. I have posted my battery drain screens on the Puremotive mod thread too.. This combination works great..
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/overclock-android-device,review-1762.html#xtor=RSS-998
Opinions from people who really know? I can't imagine that overclocking increases battery life.
It doesn't. At least from my understanding. In fact as I understand it running at higher clock speeds would decrease your battery life no? I usually under clock, so...
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The theory is that overclocking allows you to complete processes quicker, which in turn allows the processor to go back to a idle/deep sleep faster. In practice it doesn't really work that way though.
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The theory is that overclocking allows you to complete processes quicker, which in turn allows the processor to go back to a idle/deep sleep faster. In practice it doesn't really work that way though.
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doesn't the increase in voltage also come into effect?
They did talk a little about undervolting to increase battery life. Personally I don't worry about it. I'm not using my phone to sort out heavy algorithims at the moment, so running how it does is fast enough for what I use it at. Just found the article interesting.
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doesn't the increase in voltage also come into effect?
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They say the undervolting on lower clocks should balance out the higher voltage on overclocks.
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They did talk a little about undervolting to increase battery life. Personally I don't worry about it. I'm not using my phone to sort out heavy algorithims at the moment, so running how it does is fast enough for what I use it at. Just found the article interesting.
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Undervolting rarely makes a difference on mobile SoC's, but on the desktop/laptop CPUs you can really save a ton of power with undervolting and underclocking.
Why to overclock and understand it?
Here is a good reason to know what you are doing..
and the battery avg's lasting at least through the day, but most of the time, I have a charger near me...
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AnTuTu Benchmark v.2.8
Total Score: 7446
RAM: 1201
CPU Int: 2264
CPU Float: 1767
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The article says its not the actual overclocking that is saving battery life. When you put SetCPU on your phone not only can you overlock but you can underclock and set different voltages. I'm not 100% sure how the voltages play into it but you can set the processor to run at really low speeds during certain acts ei. when the screen is off, or any other time you don't necessarily need alot of power. That's and I changed all the voltages (I got them from a post where the guy knew what he was doing and tested them). I get almost 2 days moderate browsing, apps and text. If I talk alot or use my hotspot I only get 1.5 days. It is a little time consuming to get everything just right but when you do you really see it.
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The article says its not the actual overclocking that is saving battery life. When you put SetCPU on your phone not only can you overlock but you can underclock and set different voltages.
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This isn't a SetCpu feature there are other programs that can do this as well. It just so happens SetCpu has it built into the program. I bought SetCpu back in my Atrix days and loved it so it does work great for a simple tuning program.
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Many of the kernels these days have their own tweaks and mod apps as well
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I'm running a kernerl and a custom ROM that allows me to underclock and overclock.
I tried it out both ways and the battery lasted for almost the same amount as on the stock option. As I tend to play games a lot on my phone, the underclocking ran into some issues with stuttering and sometimes force close of a couple of games.
Personally, I've never been a big fan of either .