[Q] Flash Counter - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Coming from HTC phones, I'm not very familiar with the flash counter. I know that there's a root method that won't trip the flash counter, but will flashing roms, like TPC for example, trip the flash counter? I'm trying to get a better understanding on what things will and won't trip the flash counter. Also, if flashing roms now will trip the flash counter, will there eventually be a method of flashing roms that won't trip the flash counter? I'm just wondering if there's any reason to wait or not when it comes to flashing roms.

arn82 said:
Coming from HTC phones, I'm not very familiar with the flash counter. I know that there's a root method that won't trip the flash counter, but will flashing roms, like TPC for example, trip the flash counter? I'm trying to get a better understanding on what things will and won't trip the flash counter. Also, if flashing roms now will trip the flash counter, will there eventually be a method of flashing roms that won't trip the flash counter? I'm just wondering if there's any reason to wait or not when it comes to flashing roms.
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basically flashing anything other than the system root will trip the flash counter afaik

And in due time, some one will probably find where Samsung hid it and find a way to reset it.

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Noob question about flashing custom rom without triggering the flash counter.

I will follow this guide "[GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!!" Or there is any better method.
After I'm done with all the steps, my phone will be rooted and have CMW.
How will I know which custom rom will not trigger the flash counter if I flash it thru CMW? PPL said no-stock kernel/rom will trigger the counter. Thanks.
That guide is the way to go. If you flash it through cwm it wont increase the flash counter unless it states that the package includes bootloaders, if so I've been told to stay away from those including bootloaders...currently the ROMs in the Dev section wont trip your counter.
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Whenever possible, it is always better to post to an existing related thread rather than start a new one.

Just want root to delete bloat

All I want to do is root the Note to delete ATT bloat ware and stuff I wont use. Will that mess with my flash counter?
***EDIT- I'll be using titanium backup to delete the bloat, so I wont be flashing a deodoxed rom...at least until we can figure out a way to not mess with the flash counter.
itsnowornever said:
All I want to do is root the Note to delete ATT bloat ware and stuff I wont use. Will that mess with my flash counter?
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If that is all you want to do (no overclock or flashing other roms) and you are worried about the flash counter, then you only need to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
Edit: Note that there is no confirmed way to go back to true stock without tripping the flash counter
jpeg42 said:
If that is all you want to do (no overclock or flashing other roms) and you are worried about the flash counter, then you only need to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
Edit: Note that there is no confirmed way to go back to true stock without tripping the flash counter
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You can go back to stock by flashing the stock system image. It will not trip the flash counter because it is signed by samsung and only unsigned packages trip flash counter.
camaroz28 said:
You can go back to stock by flashing the stock system image. It will not trip the flash counter because it is signed by samsung and only unsigned packages trip flash counter.
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Have you tested this? Just curious because I haven't read where anyone has confirmed this yet.
Thanks all! I will give this a shot! Right now there aren't any ROMs that I am interested in or anything like that. I do remember reading that deleting any "rooted" apps will let this slide past the store workers at least if an exchange is necessary.

[Q] Checking my Understanding Before Making a Move

Hi everyone,
I stumbled upon this forum when searching for a solution for a problem a few weeks ago. I have watched the noob video and believe I have made a proper effort in order to fix my problem myself without bothering anyone. I’d really appreciate if anyone could just make sure I understand things properly.
I, being completely naïve, followed some guide on YouTube on how to root my phone. On the video the yellow triangle that showed up seemed to be an indication that the root was successful.
Upon doing some reading on here I realized I had tripped the flash counter and what that means. Upon realizing this I began to read and try to figure out how to reset the flash counter.
Turns out I am on Android Build 2.3.6 (UCKK6) which to my understanding does not work with a jig. It seems to me that I can flash a 2.3.4 (UCKH7) and THEN I will be able to use a jig to reset my flash counter. I believe I need to use the second link in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199
Just for reference would I need to flash a stock UCKK6 in order to fully restore my warranty? My phone originally came with 2.3.6.
After resetting the counter I intend to use method 2C in this thread in order to re-root my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Am I correct in saying that in order to flash a custom ROM I need to use method 3A in the previous link in order to flash without tripping the counter / using ROM Manager? I plan on trying out CM7 first.
My Kernel Version is 2.6.35.7. I backed up my apps through Titanium since I really wrap my head around getting CWM working properly : (
Please let me know if I didn’t provide enough information or detail and I will do my best to get you whatever you may need. I’m very new to smartphones in general so please forgive me if I lack some understanding.
Thanks you for your time, it is greatly appreciated.
Just fyi, if you flash an ics rom you can reset the flash counter with an app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22462960
Flash stock UCLE5 ICS rom with Odin. Root them. After you can reset flash counter with TreangleAway.
You should be able to use the jig to reset the flash counter on UCKK6. The code that governs the flash counter is contained in the secondary bootloader. A few of the 2.3.6 leaks had a crippled secondary bootloader, but the OTA update from 2.3.4 did not touch the bootloader, and phones that shipped with UCKK6 had the original secondary bootloader.
If you for some reason have a phone with a crippled bootloader, confirmed by not being able to reset the flash counter with a jig, then you would need to flash the original secondary bootloader using Odin. There is an Odin flashable tar in the Download Repository.
The advice about flashing ICS and then using Triangle Away is also good.
If you want to stay on Gingerbread, then follow the guide. 2C and 3A are probably the easiest.
If you want ICS, go to this thread instead.

Is there anyway to root and install a custom room w/o triggering the flash counter?

It seems like the only way to root is through Odin currently, which would trigger the flash counter. I'm not sure if this is the case or not. Does the current root method trigger the flash counter? I know if it doesn't then I'm as long as I flash through recovery instead of Odin I won't have to worry about triggering the counter. If someone could set me straight, that would be awesome.
Bump.
This is my first time on a Samsung device, so I've never heard of this flash counter. I'm assuming it's some level of security. Regardless, I rooted and installed TWRP using this awesome tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
I have read that there's an app on XDA for around $2 that resets your flash counter. If you're really worried about your warranty, I wouldn't be flashing, but at least apps exist to address it.

[Q] !HELP! Unroot ME7 & Question(s)

Hello I am on the new official ME7 update and it is ROOTED only. I am getting a replacement and I need to unroot this.
I found this stock image http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43420116 and wondering if this will unroot my device so I can get a replacement and warranty back.?
Also I read about the Flash counter and I am confused by this and have not seen anything to help.
Will only ROOTING trip off my flash counter? I have multiple things but different things and I have no clue. When I go into download mode everything says Official and stuff. Also I heard if I flash the stock image using odin to unroot it will trip off my flash counter, will it? If it does is there a way to reset the flash counter on ME7 since the bootloader is locked :/
Thanks!!!
Blue said:
Hello I am on the new official ME7 update and it is ROOTED only. I am getting a replacement and I need to unroot this.
I found this stock image http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43420116 and wondering if this will unroot my device so I can get a replacement and warranty back.?
Also I read about the Flash counter and I am confused by this and have not seen anything to help.
Will only ROOTING trip off my flash counter? I have multiple things but different things and I have no clue. When I go into download mode everything says Official and stuff. Also I heard if I flash the stock image using odin to unroot it will trip off my flash counter, will it? If it does is there a way to reset the flash counter on ME7 since the bootloader is locked :/
Thanks!!!
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I would post your request here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313529 and DarkMenace will get you the info you need via PM. Pretty simple process and involves the factory image.

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