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I mean I already have a rooted Nook Color with Android installed on it and it runs pretty smooth..
Should I consider buying the Nook Tablet just for the faster processor and RAM? Or is it pretty much the same?
Thanks.
If you already have a NC with CM7 (assuming you're not using stock B&N software) on it, there is little reason to move to the NT...until it gets root and ROMs. It all depends on what you want to be able to do. Besides, if your NC does everything you want it, why upgrade?
i'm trying to decide as well. I think it depends on how much support this will receive.
It is not worth it if we never see ics on it and certainly if it doesn't get any version of cm7. ics should run much better on here vs. the NC. I think the NC will be pushing the hardware to run ics really well. Apart from that I don't think there is a huge difference. If you run stock quite a bit it should be much better/quicker.
I run cm7 off of sd now and still use stock for some things, i can't live without cm7. when 1.4 comes out for nookcolor i think comparisons will be really easy to make and again when cm7 or 9 get on the nook tablet-a real comparison of what you get will be easy to make.
can you live with just stock on nook tablet for a few weeks/months?
That all depends on your needs... Ask yourself what you with your Nook Color...
Is it primarily for reading books or are you using it as a full-fledged tablet?
If you used ManualNooter, then you'll see some similarities with the options that were unlocked in your Nook Color.
If you are looking to use apps, you may not be as impressed with the NTab at launch - it has the same app limitations as a stock NC. (No sideloading apps at present.) Perhaps that will change with NTab user demands, but only time will tell...
Do you watch a lot of video on your NC? If so, then you might like the NTab more, as the screen quality has been bumped up quite a bit. So far, it still only handles the same video formats as the Nook Color, but the screen and GPU are much more powerful, yielding a much richer video playback experience overall.
(I'm talking about playing mp4 encoded video files off a microSD card - YouTube and Netflix streaming aren't as important to me as using the NTab as a media player, so I can't speak for HD streaming via 'the web'.)
The speed of the NTab is the most impressive thing - It is *VERY* fast.
Pop into your local Barnes and Noble and test drive it - it's a completely different device than a stock or rooted Nook Color. You'll get that within minutes of testing it out.
This is the double edged sword of the NT/NC debate. For all intents and purposes, they are the same device save the hardware changes and preloaded apps.
All they are doing with this device is solidifying their market with better specs, there's no impetus to upgrade if you already own the NC.
I know next year is FOREVER away but I guarantee you that their next device will be just as friendly and worthy of upgrading to.
Well, my Sony reader died 3 months after it was given to me. I've been using the Nook app for Android and its time for an upgrade. On the way to pick one up now.
I have had my Nook Color for less than a year. I am getting it for (hopefully) Improved performance with large (50mb+) pdf files... and well, im a sucker for gadgets damnit.
I received my Kindle Fire last night and doubt I will end up keeping it. I had a Nook Color that flew off my Subaru at 50 MPH and did not survive. I decided to put off repurchasing it for what would become the Kindle Fire.
Now that I have it, I miss my Nook Color even more. It had a home button, volume rockers, and an SD card slot that the Fire does not have. It also feels much more comforable in my hands. The Fire is heavier in a smaller footprint. The UI seems 3/4 baked. I get the feeling that Amazon released a very basic tablet at a very aggressive price point. I imagine they will release a pro version of the Fire in the future.
That being said, I am going to try the Fire for the next few weeks and most likely return it during before 30 days. I am an Amazon Prime customer, so my purchases are mostly within the Amazon ecosphere. If the Nook Tablet is rooted, I will likely pick it up. If not, I may opt for a new Nook Color at the lower price and put what I want on it.
I love Amazon, but BN design is very compelling.
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As I post this from my Nook Tablet, i must say, this is rather sweet!!!
I'm very much digging mine and I never thought I would put my Bionic. All it is now is a wireless hotspot for my NT.
just curious
Better screen quality and expandable memory via uSD card.
History of the nook color. More ram. Sd card slot. More internal storage (yes I did not look into storage enough initially, but now that it is rooted, I have access to it anyhow)
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Looking for a worthy successor to my Sony EReader. The Nook is acknowledged to be the best reading experience of any of the readers. The NT should carry this tradition forward.
Having 200-some books in EPub format - I was not about to switch to a proprietary, locked-down format with Amazon. That would be as bad as going with Apple.
I have two rooted Android phones - which I love. The chance to pair the Nook reader with the Android technology was irresistible. I have been playing with writing code for Android for a couple of years - really looking forward to the extra real estate on the NT.
Then there is Barnes and Noble. Well, you can't have everything...
The rootablity of NC of which I own and love, each of the other nooks, all of which I own and the hope of more on the NT. I have even gifted the ATT+wifi nook to family and still retain all of the wifi only units.
It is great to see root achieved here but why not to the boot loader?
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Mostly because of owning NC, thinking NT would follow in its steps. Didn't quite pan out as of yet.
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Mostly because of owning NC, thinking NT would follow in its steps. Didn't quite pan out as of yet.
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Things are coming along quite nicely. Remember, the NC wasn't rooted and fully customizable right away.
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Things are coming along quite nicely. Remember, the NC wasn't rooted and fully customizable right away.
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Nor did it have a locked bootloader.
Haven't decided yet. Have a Fire right now but I'm 75% sure im going to exchange it for an NT because of the UI sluggishness and also the browser really impressed me in the NT.
Screen, speed, and the ergonomics of the tablet. Im not a fan of the flat glass tablets. Im not a fan of cheap feeling tablets. If i was ide just get an acer iconia
I heard the silk browser was better, but w/e.
I chose the NT because of the exterior build, the sd slot, better hardware specs, and better screen.
Expandable memory, more on board storage (or so I thought), greater possibility of new ROMs and rootability.
Biggest reason is uSD slot, but the extra 512MB of memory and mic are nice as well.
More RAM
Expandable storage (SD card slot)
Better display
Nicer looking (to me, anyway)
I already have a Kindle Simple Touch
The 20% discount, duh.
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I like the Nook because of the expandable memory. It's a shame that ads out there are misleading the consumers...saying it has 16gb over the Kindle's 8gb...Kindle allows you to use most of it. I bought both of these to try. I like the thinness of the Nook and even though I had to buy a memory card its interface is better. I hope B&N can offer up some of the memory or I can figure out how to root. I've never done it before and I don't want to end up with a useless tablet if I don't root it right.
Partly because of the specs, more ram, plus allow micro sd. Reviews like Engadget have said that videos play more smoothly on the NT.
And partly because I like the covers for the NT. I had a "Canvas writer's cover" for my NC before and really like the mounting system, it's really solid. I bought a "Leather writer's cover" with my NT.
Those covers are awesome, just like carrying around a book. I didn't like the ones for the KF, the book cover ones for the KF all seem to have cheap straps around the corners for mounting.
for the specs...
more ram and sd card implementation are the main reasons.
i live outside the US so i need to use the device in particular with files saved on. so i need more space as i can and the extra slot gives me the flexibility i need.
more ram of course sounds nice and grants very good performances.
No reliance on the cloud for storage.
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I couldn't decide... so I bought both.
My wife saw the kindle and assumes it is a christmas gift for her.. so now I have reason to keep it. The Nook Tablet is for me.
The bumped HW specs is the main reason for the NT
The OS on the KF, however, is fantastic.
I am sure we will start seeing amazon launcher ported to other tablets (already done!) and would be great to have the Amazon launcher on the NT. But the locked bootloader is like someone pissing on my ice cream. NT is already losing the popularity vote in the media, as all they are talking about is "KF vs Ipad"... The NT is completely shadowed by the KF simply because Amazon knows how to market.
But NT is killing the few extra million that the dev community would be worth by unnecessarily locking their bootloader. I can somewhat understand locking it for phones for carrier reasons. But there is absolutely no benefit for B&N to lock the bootloader on this. You are only raping yourself of millions from people not buying and not buying future versions because they will assume the same.
But back to the 2 tablets...
NT feels SOOO much better in your hand due to the curved bezel.
KF is a brick. Gets hard to hold after a while.
NT hardware is faster
KF software is better
Both can be rooted
Both have Google Framework
Both have amazon appstore and video player
Both run GoLauncher and ICS Launcher perfectly
I was not able to run Zeam, Launcher 7, and a few others on either device.
Wave Launcher runs great on both, tho on the both, the resizing of the swipe location was really glitchy, but other than that it works fine. Just use the gesture area presets to find a spot.
I like dual launchers (amazons and go) on the KF
I have no desire to keep the default NT launcher.. it is just garbage compared to KF.
I am still playing with both... I think it depends on where development goes to determine which one I give my wife for Christmas
I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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but in all seriousness, both are sturdy devices. I myself chose the Nook Tab because of the external storage support. And now that development is running along nicely (a few bugs to be sorted out) I would say the choice is entirely up to you. I like the build of the tab over the fire, along with the screen quality / image quality.
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I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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As stated above, both are good devices. you obviously know the difference in hardware, (ram, sd slot, etc) so rather then point that out, I will simply say, I am quite happy with my nook, and looking forward to the ever expanding developments going on it. One of my best friends has a kindle fire. He keeps looking at my nook and wishing he had snagged it instead of the fire, mostly due to the sd support. Although there are a couple games that play a bit smoother on the nook, most of what we have compared seems to run about the same on either. the limited internal memory though, that's kind of a big issue. It's amazing how fast you can go through 16gb of space.
The nook has better specs but as of now there is more available in the development section for the Fire. Thats fine with me Im waiting for the nook to catch up and pass. If you want a rom today then the nook wont be your choice.
More RAM, more storage, comparable development, and the killer feature for me - physical volume buttons. I find myself changing the volume a lot, and when I tried in on the Fire in the store, I had to open a menu, move to the volume option, and then use an on-screen slider. Too many steps. Honestly, that is what put me over the edge.
I was faced with this same quandry a few days ago and it all comes out to this: the two devices are in my opinion the same in hardware/money ratio. The nook seems to have $50 worth of extra hardware but is unfortunately $50 more.
After I put the hardware aside I looked at the two dev communities, they looked about even but the Kindle has less cyanogenmod support/orientation from what I can tell which was a turnoff. I used cyanogenmod on my last phone and found my new phone to be a downgrade even though it had double the benchmarks on its hardware.
So it comes down to personal choice based on two factors:
1. Are you going to mod it (not just root but ROMs too)? If no get the Kindle. I was very disappointed with the factory nook settings. With just root it was much more bearable and now that I have cm7 (luckily I caught it before the recall) I am quite happy with this device.
2. What are you planning on using it for. If you want to play games or movies, I would strongly suggest the Nook for its superior performance and (from what I've ready) better battery life. If you want to just read, I'd save the $50 and go with the kindle.
In the end, they are very comparable devices and it comes down to the price. Although, if you're going to throw down some considerable money why cheap out on $50 (don't forget to factor in the microsd that you'll inevitably want to get unless you have one lying around like I did)? I went with the nook because of the CM affiliation and the better specs. I'm not sure I needed the better specs but I'm a bit of a tech junkie so when I read double the ram and double the storage I had to jump on it. I'm not regretting getting the Nook yet but I'll edit if I change my mind.
Thanks for your help. I really like hearing other peoples experiences with devices that are rooted instead of just the specs and the comparisons that you get from c-net. I will most likely root it and change ROM's a couple of times a week, but last time I rooted my phone I became a flash addict and I don't want that to happen again here with this, but I always want the newest ROM. I like everything Amazon offers like being able to stream video if you get an amazon prime account, but I am hoping in the future there will be a hack for that so I can do that on the Nook. I can't believe the Kindle fire didn't come with an SD card slot. That one feature probably would have sold me on the Kindle.
I also have an extra SD card and I am planning on buying it used from criagslist. I have already seen a couple for 175$. I would really like the follow up tablet to the Asus prime that is coming out in a couple of months but I don't want to spend $500 plus on a tablet.
My grandson has the fire so I can compare both. I like the fire better The screen is smoother, copy/paste works (just found this out ). Volume on speaker and quality is better. I like the digital Home instead of the micro-switch on the Nook. I've also noticed he doesn't seem to charge his as much as I do the Nook To me I don't see any reason a person would even want to mess with fire, just use it. I too was sold on the micro card and specs. Hopefully, the new ROM coming out will change my mind on the Nook
While initially I had planned on getting a nook tablet and rooting it seeing as it has a gig of ram and a gig processor...I noticed these other two devices and was wondering if its worth (at best buy) the extra 10 bucks for the acer iconia a100 which has been confirmed will be getting ICS or go with the player thats 10 bucks cheaper but not as big screen. I will be getting the amazon kindle fire for my wife (she likes how it handles best). Overall I know hardware wise the nook tablet seems to be the best bet (right now). How much of a hassel is it to root/custom rom it? (when I had my droid eris back in the day I rooted and modded the crap outta that so I'm used to that). Is it worth saving 10 bucks and going with the samsung player and not having to really worry about rooting but having 2 inches less....or going the acer iconia a100 and spending 10 bucks more again not having to root..but not having a gig of ram....or stay with the nook tablet choice and root it?
Can't speak for the other two options, but the NT is a nice device. Root is simple. Custom software is still in the early stages of development. As such, there is a scheduled Tuesday (tentative) release of the current test version on CM7. There is development of an ICS CM9 ROM in process as well. But there are no ETAs on anything alpha or beta.
My problem with the A100 is the poor battery life, plus i think the nook still has the better screen.. especially for reading if that's something you'll be doing.
The samsung player is nice hardware and works really well.. plus you get gps, camera etc.. but for me the screen is too small especially for reading.. but movies are nice.
I had both and returned both... you gotta love amazon with a prime account
Rooting the nook is cake... especially with the SD card method... and there are lots of guides here on the forum.. Once that is done you can get lots of apps..
But ultimately... you need to figure out what you want from the "tablet" and go from there..
I have what amounts to an unlimited toy budget, so I have the Samsung 5, the NC, the NT, the NST and one of the Asus Transformers.
I carry the Samsung wherever I go. I like it a lot, it's far more portable than the even the NC/NT or NST. I use Newsrob to read news articles on it, and listen to the BBC on it at night via TuneIn.
Eventually, I may give the NC away - the NT completely replaces it for my purposes.
I'll probably sell the Transformer at some point. Yes, it's big, shiny and sorta fast, and the games look great, but it's also big and shiny - the screen is not as good as the NC/NT because there's much more internal reflection. It's not very portable, and I find that I really don't like Honeycomb because you have to copy files to a Honeycomb device via the MTP interface or via wifi; I like being able to copy directly over the USB interface and synch stuff with Calibre - not an option over the MTP.
I like the NST for times when I'll be away from power for a bit, and because magazines on the NST are real epubs, none of that newfangled ehanced magazine stuff. So you can read them in any epub reader you like.
ok..nc=nook color, nt=nook tablet, nst=?
Nook Simple Touch
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I can't vouch for the others either but have my fair share of "tablets". I have used this nt more than any of them and I think the simple reason is size. It is the perfect balance of size and weight. I don't do any heavy gaming but feel that it offers a great environment for reading, browsing, email and tinkering. 2" less of screen real estate would in my opinion make it to small and 2" more is uncomfortable to balance. This nt is the sweet spot for me. Sitting up, laying down, portrait, landscape, it's all good.
The hardware you get for the price (especially if you can grab it for $199) is unmatched. Rooting is cake and development is starting to heat up.
I doubt you would be disapointed but in keeping with your question I'd say its between the nt and the acer.
I'll probably go nook tablet since hardware superiority over software inferiority(which can be fixed by rooting) seems to be the route to go. Here's another wrench into the question that I THINK I know the answer: is the nook tablet an upgrade from an iPod touch 4g? I realize I will be losing camera features and access to the tons of apps iTunes has, but once rooted I have android market. Any views on this? Basically looking for the "laptop lite" device...but bigger than my ipod and added feature of one handed computing while holding my daughter reading a book
Just want to let you know that the A100 does have 1GB of ram, the 512mb is a typo on their website. (you can find 1GB corrections and printed on the box) You can probably stretch the battery life to 6 hours with minimum brightness and wifi on.
well shoot..now that that has a gig of ram..makes things interesting...although one common factor I've seen listed almost everywhere IS horrible life with the acer as well as issues with viewing the screen unless you're viewing it straight on.
I was in Best Buy looking to purchase a tablet in November and saw the Acer for $250 and the salesperson told me they were sold out (only kept 5 in store). They had plenty of Nook tablets and sice I didn't want to wait, I purchased the Nook. I took it home and lset it up and was immediately impressed by the sharp and bright screen over the Acer but I was not happy at all with the default home manager. I fired up the internet and did a search and it brought me to this forum. Since late November, I have rooted the device amongst other hacks and recently installed CM7 alpha. I prefer Go Launcher over ADW home manager so I used NoBloat and Homemanager apk's so that I could switch to Go Launcher and install the Twitter and Facebook widgets. I had to fix permissions and i WIPED THE Develick cache and everything seems very responsive and smooth (i turn off all animations). Everything can be accessed on one homescreen (thanks to Go Launcher) and with cm7, no more problems with default Google widgets not loading. Once Bluetooth and Overclocking is added to the kernel (see cm7 post) the NT will be hard to beat.
I had a NT and an A100 tablets, on top of an iPad-2.
The iPad-2 cannot be beat when it comes to choice of apps and overall experience. My only problem with iPad is that any file I need to upload to my device has to be done with iTunes. And since I switch computers, iTunes is constantly removing stuff from my iPad. This for me a deal killer.
As for the other two tablets: NT and A100. I prefer by far the experience on the A100, everything is available from Google market. I don't need to sideload anything. It is multitouch, meaning that I can play piano, or other games that require more than 2 points to be recognized on the screen. The only issue I have with it is that its screen is not as bright as the NT. the A100 I own has only 8 gigs of storage, so I need to add more storage, but it is not a big problem since it has a microSD slot.
As for the NT, it's at best a glorified ereader. I don't have access to the full 16 GB of internal memory. It only recognizes 2 points on the screen. This is enough for a large number of apps, but a deal breaker for many interesting apps. I need to use Root Explorer to move files around. I rooted my NT to deal with some of the restrictions, but this is not a perfect solution. At best, it's a stop-gap solution. I can't use Google maps, as it needs my location, and I haven't figured out how to do it. The screen on the NT is definitely brighter than the A100, but it's not a big selling point in my opinion.
All in all, if I had to choose between the two, I would definitely go with the A100. It's an easy choice for me.
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I had a NT and an A100 tablets, on top of an iPad-2.
The iPad-2 cannot be beat when it comes to choice of apps and overall experience. My only problem with iPad is that any file I need to upload to my device has to be done with iTunes. And since I switch computers, iTunes is constantly removing stuff from my iPad. This for me a deal killer.
As for the other two tablets: NT and A100. I prefer by far the experience on the A100, everything is available from Google market. I don't need to sideload anything. It is multitouch, meaning that I can play piano, or other games that require more than 2 points to be recognized on the screen. The only issue I have with it is that its screen is not as bright as the NT. the A100 I own has only 8 gigs of storage, so I need to add more storage, but it is not a big problem since it has a microSD slot.
As for the NT, it's at best a glorified ereader. I don't have access to the full 16 GB of internal memory. It only recognizes 2 points on the screen. This is enough for a large number of apps, but a deal breaker for many interesting apps. I need to use Root Explorer to move files around. I rooted my NT to deal with some of the restrictions, but this is not a perfect solution. At best, it's a stop-gap solution. I can't use Google maps, as it needs my location, and I haven't figured out how to do it. The screen on the NT is definitely brighter than the A100, but it's not a big selling point in my opinion.
All in all, if I had to choose between the two, I would definitely go with the A100. It's an easy choice for me.
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You can access all the internal memory once rooted and permissions set correctly. Google maps is functional as is, but if you want to use navigator, you need to use app such as GPS tether. I am rooted using go launcher, but kept all the B&N bloat and am very pleased with the NT. I think it's great value for the money. Could it be better? Sure, but what couldn't? CM7 and CM9 will only make the NT even more attractive.
I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
Although I'm really satisfied with the capabilities of even just a regular root, the only time I've regretted buying an NT was when I heard Asus was coming out with a new 7 inch tablet later this year. That makes me want to sell this thing instantly, haha.
To be honest with you i bought my NT as a stop gap between selling my iPad2 and waiting for the iPad3.. with the intent to sell this once i picked up the new iPad..
and for the first week or two i did regret buying it but then.. Considering what i use it for
1.Watch movies (netflix, hulu, and divx on the SD card),
2 Browse the internet and 3. Actually read a book or two.. it's actually perfect for all that.
Used the SD card method to root (Thanks Albert) and then side loaded all the apps that i needed. Never had Wifi or reboot issues, the screen is actually brighter and clearer than the iPad 2 i had and the battery life is above average for a 7 inch
I will be holding on to this for a while.. and i think once they perfect the other rom's and get the bluetooth working it's actually a keeper.. especially if ICS gets ported.
But as always you have to ask yourself does it do what i need?.. the only reason to get a different tablet would be if you needed GPS, Camera's, bigger screen, 3G, a different app store, video out etc....
if none of that is the reason.. then whatever tablet you buy will fill you with the same... should i have really bought this feeling..
I am comparing the NT with the $199 refurbished 16Gb HTC Flyer. I find that I miss CM7 on the Flyer... and the Flyer somehow seems harder to hold. I guess I got used to both CM7 and the bezel on the Nook Color and now the Nook Tablet. I haven't decided which I will keep yet, but I am leaning towards keeping the NT.
Heck no ... I've had 250.00 dollars worth of hacking fun with mine I have a feeling there is a lot more coming. Just wish I knew how to code to help out
Basically it boils down to what you want to do with it. Technically, you bought an e-reader. If you wanted more, you should have bought more. Myself personally, I came to XDA before I made up my mind between various tablets. I settled on the NT because I could see there was a bright future for it. The hardware bugs will be worked out eventually. Blame B&N for the hold-ups thus far. Give it a while. If you sell now, in 6 months, you will regret buying something else and will be looking to get another NT.
Understandably, there are limitations to this device. It's half the price of an iPad. You don't get any of the fancy things like GPS, 3G/LTE, camera, etc. But it is a great tablet for the money.
I bought this because my cheap e-reader broke. It was mainly to read with. That said, since I bought it 2 months ago, I haven't read more than a page of a book!
I've had tons of fun putting Android on, customizing it, and getting it how I like it. I'll be 10 times happier when a fully functional port of ICS is released for it. Netflix and videos look amazing on its screen, indisputably better than the supposedly identical screen on the Kindle Fire (just read ANY review).
I've never had an issue with the WIFI dropping or restarting. There are a few issues that the great devs and contributors here have helped me to conquer.
There are still a couple things I'd like to see get done to this device though, other than the glorious port of ICS. I'd love to be able to use ALL of the 16 GB of data on board. That was one top reason I chose it over the Fire, but I'm confident the great people here will solve that in time. Another is that, despite there not being onboard GPS, I'd still like location-based tools to work, like they do on any other WIFI device like my phone.
Other than that, I'm really happy with what I bought. I may not use it for what I initially intended, but hey, who has time to read when you're busy installing your favourite apps, customizing widgets, and making your home page perfect?
And on the issue of buyer's regret, when it comes to tablets and smartphones, there will ALWAYS be something better within 3-6 months!
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
My only regret so far is that I got the 8gb NT. It is actually my father-in-law's device, but I told him I would configure it to have better access to the Android market. I had read several posts about rooting and installing Go launcher (or equivalent) and was excited to do this. For the time being at least, it doesn't look like this is an option, and the 512k RAM looks to be an issue. I may try to convince him to return it and get the 16GB version. Since it's not mine, I guess I need to let him see if he is happy with it, but I'm chomping at the bit to put some of the great work from this forum to good use on his system!
Maybe I will have to just get my own. I have been talking about getting some kind of tablet with my wife, and will likely get something in the next couple months. Since I am used to a smartphone, it's hard not being able to install any app that I am familiar with, and I will likely go for something with more features.
As others have said, it's all about what you actually need/expect. And there will always be times when you second-guess what you do purchase... Buyer's remorse is just part of being human, IMO!
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I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
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Well, I was able to get my Nook Tablet much more easily than a Kindle Fire because my University has a deal with Barnes & Noble; my school bookstore is basically a small B&N store full of textbooks. If I had the choice, I would have chosen the Kindle Fire, but I still like my Nook Tablet, especially now that CM7 is running on it.
I don't regret it, but let me say - I never liked my device hacks to be easy! Sounds masochistic, yes, but I've always enjoyed installing custom firmware on stuff that, until some hackers got a hold of it, was never able to run anything other than what the manufacturers intended. I'm talking about Wii, PSP, PDAs, etc.
If you think development for the Nook Tab is rough, think about how slow and brutal it was getting the PSP to run custom software. I suffered at least one electrocution modding the thing's battery because I didn't have much experience with moving pins on a chipset. It was worth it to get homebrew stuff running on there though.
My point is, while the Kindle Fire owners do have it a lot easier than us, I enjoy witnessing the development process first-hand; it's oddly satisfying. I understand some people around these forums are only here because they wanted a cheap CyanogenMod 7 Tablet and want to see the Nook Tablet become that - but I'll be lurking around here long after the Nook Tablet devs reach their goals because I'm fascinated by hacking and modifying devices.
cyberma007 said:
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
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I just realized that after my post. Haven't checked the posts here lately. It seems a little complicated for a noob like me. Plus, don't I have to install CM7 also to do it?
No you don't need to run CM7 to repartition, I am noob as well, it is very easy, it just looks hard.
Just follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22157605&postcount=25
Partition 10 is where you would put you own data
Partition 11 is where all apps go, when you install them.
on mine i did half half because a lot of games are pretty big and need space, but you can change it to you own need.
just do the commands in bold black, the rest that you see is what your nook outputs.
Update after using the HTC Flyer for a bit more. I think I will sell my 2 Nook Tablets and keep the HTC Flyers. At $199 they just offer so much more.... GPS, front and back cameras, working bluetooth, working skype, dual speakers that are loud, HDMI out via MHL (adapter on the way). The built-in 16gb is partitioned so there is 8+ GB for media stuff. And for my almost 7 year old, he loves that Talking Tomcat and Talking Ben work, and Galaxy on Fire 2 runs fast on the Flyer as well since there is a native adreno version. It is only single core but runs at 1.5ghz and has 1gb ram so it feels as fast at the NT if not faster in some cases. The Adreno 205 gpu is not rated quite as good as the Powervr SGX540 but seems to be well supported for gaming. Not to say that there are not some annoyances with the Flyer. I can't seem to turn off the lock screen. There is no CM7 though there are custom roms for both Gingerbread and Honeycomb for the Flyer (need to root and unlock the device first). And I need to find better cases for them. Anyway I think the refurbished HTC Flyer is a keeper at $199 from buy.com And of course I can read on them with Moon+ Reader Pro, Kindle App, Nook App, etc.
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So far no regrets. Just installed cm7 and happy.
Plus I only paid $175 for my 16gb tablet on Craigslist.
Hopefully cm9 makes it's way to the tablet.
My only regrets are the possibility of what the Asus tablet might offer and that the NT can be had for $175 now. Those aren't really fair reasons though since there will always be price drops and always be new options if you wait. I wanted it for Christmas and it's been everything I expected. I'm rooted at 1.4.0, zero WiFi issues and it's never rebooted (I did have a frozen screen once). I plan on staying on this platform until the fine developers on this forum give me the option of ICS for my NT!
I have no regrets at all. It let me do everything I really cared about right out of the box for a price I didn't mind paying. Any additional functionality after ebooks, videos, music and some light web browsing is just so much gravy as far as I'm concerned.
I love it, but primarily because I bought into the B&N ecosystem years ago (I have about 400 books and magazine subscriptions). It's much more pleasant to read on the NT than it is on my iPad, due to weight and size. Movies are great, except for the below-average speaker. I don't surf the Internet on my NT; if I have to do it mobile, I prefer to leave that to my phone since I can do it one-handed. My only qualms:
1. There needs to be an Economist magazine app, built for the Nook. You can't install the one from Android Market, even after rooting.
2. The speaker, as mentioned above.
3. The little hook in the bottom corner is kinda annoying. Yes, I know it makes the design unique, but it gets in the way. It also makes accessing the MicroSD card a pain.
4. At $250, GPS would've been nice. Not that I expect to carry it around for turn-by-turn, but I'd like to access the map and Yelp for places to eat while in my hotel room.
I don't regret getting the NT16 at all. But then again my uses for the device are:
1. Reading. I read a LOT.
2. Playing games
3. Surfing the internet
4. Study device (read pdfs/powerpoints/word docs for school)
I also have music and movies stored on the device for the day when I need to entertain myself outside reading/games and off a wifi network. It's small and light enough to carry at all times in my purse or backpack and zippy enough to do what I need it to do.
Once CM9 is released I'll have to debate a lot on whether or not I want to keep my simple root with the BN eReader or upgrade to ICS for full tablet capabilities (like all those excellent note taking apps compatible with Honeycomb/ICS)
No regrets at all.
Initially when it appeared that B&N was going to hound us endlessly trying to disable root and return everyone's NT to 'jail', I was a bit resentful. I still don't recommend the NT to others because I don't trust them.
But I should have known the dimbulbs in B&N management are no match for the talented devs here. I've got no worries that my device can be ruined with an underhanded update- and I haven't done much of anything to secure it since I first rooted it back in December or so. (Still running rooted 1.4.0 with no problems). The fact that it can now run CM7 (which I haven't tried yet) is just icing on the cake. I'm guessing I'll love it even more once I get around to trying that.
The tablet does everything I need it to and more, and was a good deal for the price.
Next tablet I own probably won't be a locked device, but as for the NT itself, no regrets. That's 100% thanks to the devs here.