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is this device worth <200$? opinions on your device please, and also thoughts on before/after android porting!
i have the option of getting a 16 or a 32 for <200$ and am wondering if this is a piece of junk or worth getting.
or if i should just get something like a kindle fire.
uses: entertainment, ereading, videos, games, actually wtf do people use touchpads for????
ICS source is out so HE** the F*** YES it's worth it!
it was worth it b4, now I'm going to be busy.
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I use my touchpad for everything I need to do. The webos side has good apps for work and the cm7 side gives me netflix, games, video, photos, skype, ect... the TP is a very usefull tablet. If you get one for 200 and find you don't like it, PM me and we might be able to work something out, especially if you get the 32GB unit.
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I just put CM7 Alpha 2.1 on it this weekend and it is amazing how well an Alpha is running on this thing. If you can get a 32 gig for less than $200 you aren't that far off from the fire sale price.
I have a Nook Color with CM7 as well. I think both size devices have their merits so it depends what you want to use them for.
seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
I actually like WebOS.
I'm in WebOS most of the time.
that might change once ICS comes over.
webOS, you will use most of the time because it's nice to be in and it's the most useful. You can get to where you need to be quick. Skype call? No problem. Email? Coming right up. And while I'm reading a Wikipedia page and Facebooking at the same time, I can buy a scooter from Amazon. Not to mention reading a magazine and downloading podcasts and listening to music. I can do every single one of those things, all at one time.
That's the point of getting a tablet, right?
That's just it. webOS puts you at the center of all the action. It's a tablet in the way it's supposed to be.
That's something no other tablet can do. Anywhere. It's unmatched. And on top of allllll that, you still have the latest version of Android. Useless?! It's the furthest thing from.
oh didnt know you can have BOTH android and webOS. weird.
why do people have gripes about webOS then?
i already have a samsung galaxy phone, so i dont want the same thing but bigger (unless i can read better on it)
Exactly.
In order to be a good operating system, everything has to come together. You cannot miss one thing. WebOS has an app store, but you won't see many big name companies (the ones that matter) developing apps for it.
The problem with A & I tabletwise is that it doesn't work that different from your phone.
Which means the productivity, is not there.
I'm in Android watching a YouTube video, but as soon as I open another webpage, the video stops.
I'm in iOS and I get an email, or I want to look up how to beat this level of Angry Birds, if I enter the Internet, bye-bye Angry Birds, I have to start all over.
Those are big problems. WebOS saved us from that.
While you can do more in webOS, the ironic thing is, there's less apps, so you can't use that fantastic multitasking on everything you would like to.
So webOS used to be on thin ice, but better apps are coming in.
Still, this is a big problem for any tablet maker. We need a system where you can just push apps to make them compatible with any tablet device, or we are going to be stuck with iOS and Android as the only operating systems there are.
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seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
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If you don't mod the TouchPad, it's not truly a POS. with the original firmware, yes, it's the most laggy experience ever. But ever since the latest official firmware update, it becomes infinitely more usable.
If you apply the relevant preware patches and overclock on top of that, it becomes pretty darn snappy.
So WebOS is definitely still alive and kicking.
The latest CM Alpha is indeed impressive. But I still have trouble using it as my daily OS primarily due to the faster battery drain. But I'm sure that's just a temporary issue.
At the firesale price of $99 for a 16GB, it's a steal. I would say that it would even be worth it at $200.
But keep in mind that you're within range of getting one of these:
Kindle Fire is $199
Nook Tablet is $249
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
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Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Same here, been my main computer for a week or two now. Except i exclusively use CM and haven't touched webos in a long time.
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Woth it? Well, if there will be a stable ICS port, and you understand what is a tablet and how you could use it, it's worth it, i guess. Personally, after i bought it i understood that there are quite few tasks that i could use a tablet for, so this thing just lies on my table, collecting dust.
Anyway, if you are going to buy TP NOW, better look in the Nook Tablet direction: for $250 you will have more compact tablet with better CPU/GPU and microsd slot.
I'm sitting at my laptop, but I'm using my TouchPad anyway because it's so fun to use.
I have to agree with Unrealwolf. If you have a purpose for a tablet, it is a good one for the price. It would be nice to have the SD Cord slot but the only reason I filled up my 16GB is because I put on 2GB of music and 20 full length MP4 movies.
At home I seldom use my laptop because I do all my email, social networking, and web browsing (ie. shopping, research, and forum updates) on a tablet (I have both a TP and a Nook Color). Very much worth it to me.
doh the deal got away
should i continue hunting or go for a fire/nook? not sure how well they compare but prices are close
Not too sure yet about the new nook tablet but the fire is getting some less than stellar reviews today. Seems to be a bit laggy. After using my touchpad for a while, I have a hard time going back to my nook color 7 inch screen. I am actually starting to develop apps in enyo for the touchpad. I really like webos as well as cm7. For me, the touchpad gives me the besr of both worlds.
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Im getting my touchpad on wednesday. 159 euros 32gb on Cyberport. Is it still worth it or shall i wait for kindle fire?
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I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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but in all seriousness, both are sturdy devices. I myself chose the Nook Tab because of the external storage support. And now that development is running along nicely (a few bugs to be sorted out) I would say the choice is entirely up to you. I like the build of the tab over the fire, along with the screen quality / image quality.
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I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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As stated above, both are good devices. you obviously know the difference in hardware, (ram, sd slot, etc) so rather then point that out, I will simply say, I am quite happy with my nook, and looking forward to the ever expanding developments going on it. One of my best friends has a kindle fire. He keeps looking at my nook and wishing he had snagged it instead of the fire, mostly due to the sd support. Although there are a couple games that play a bit smoother on the nook, most of what we have compared seems to run about the same on either. the limited internal memory though, that's kind of a big issue. It's amazing how fast you can go through 16gb of space.
The nook has better specs but as of now there is more available in the development section for the Fire. Thats fine with me Im waiting for the nook to catch up and pass. If you want a rom today then the nook wont be your choice.
More RAM, more storage, comparable development, and the killer feature for me - physical volume buttons. I find myself changing the volume a lot, and when I tried in on the Fire in the store, I had to open a menu, move to the volume option, and then use an on-screen slider. Too many steps. Honestly, that is what put me over the edge.
I was faced with this same quandry a few days ago and it all comes out to this: the two devices are in my opinion the same in hardware/money ratio. The nook seems to have $50 worth of extra hardware but is unfortunately $50 more.
After I put the hardware aside I looked at the two dev communities, they looked about even but the Kindle has less cyanogenmod support/orientation from what I can tell which was a turnoff. I used cyanogenmod on my last phone and found my new phone to be a downgrade even though it had double the benchmarks on its hardware.
So it comes down to personal choice based on two factors:
1. Are you going to mod it (not just root but ROMs too)? If no get the Kindle. I was very disappointed with the factory nook settings. With just root it was much more bearable and now that I have cm7 (luckily I caught it before the recall) I am quite happy with this device.
2. What are you planning on using it for. If you want to play games or movies, I would strongly suggest the Nook for its superior performance and (from what I've ready) better battery life. If you want to just read, I'd save the $50 and go with the kindle.
In the end, they are very comparable devices and it comes down to the price. Although, if you're going to throw down some considerable money why cheap out on $50 (don't forget to factor in the microsd that you'll inevitably want to get unless you have one lying around like I did)? I went with the nook because of the CM affiliation and the better specs. I'm not sure I needed the better specs but I'm a bit of a tech junkie so when I read double the ram and double the storage I had to jump on it. I'm not regretting getting the Nook yet but I'll edit if I change my mind.
Thanks for your help. I really like hearing other peoples experiences with devices that are rooted instead of just the specs and the comparisons that you get from c-net. I will most likely root it and change ROM's a couple of times a week, but last time I rooted my phone I became a flash addict and I don't want that to happen again here with this, but I always want the newest ROM. I like everything Amazon offers like being able to stream video if you get an amazon prime account, but I am hoping in the future there will be a hack for that so I can do that on the Nook. I can't believe the Kindle fire didn't come with an SD card slot. That one feature probably would have sold me on the Kindle.
I also have an extra SD card and I am planning on buying it used from criagslist. I have already seen a couple for 175$. I would really like the follow up tablet to the Asus prime that is coming out in a couple of months but I don't want to spend $500 plus on a tablet.
My grandson has the fire so I can compare both. I like the fire better The screen is smoother, copy/paste works (just found this out ). Volume on speaker and quality is better. I like the digital Home instead of the micro-switch on the Nook. I've also noticed he doesn't seem to charge his as much as I do the Nook To me I don't see any reason a person would even want to mess with fire, just use it. I too was sold on the micro card and specs. Hopefully, the new ROM coming out will change my mind on the Nook
While initially I had planned on getting a nook tablet and rooting it seeing as it has a gig of ram and a gig processor...I noticed these other two devices and was wondering if its worth (at best buy) the extra 10 bucks for the acer iconia a100 which has been confirmed will be getting ICS or go with the player thats 10 bucks cheaper but not as big screen. I will be getting the amazon kindle fire for my wife (she likes how it handles best). Overall I know hardware wise the nook tablet seems to be the best bet (right now). How much of a hassel is it to root/custom rom it? (when I had my droid eris back in the day I rooted and modded the crap outta that so I'm used to that). Is it worth saving 10 bucks and going with the samsung player and not having to really worry about rooting but having 2 inches less....or going the acer iconia a100 and spending 10 bucks more again not having to root..but not having a gig of ram....or stay with the nook tablet choice and root it?
Can't speak for the other two options, but the NT is a nice device. Root is simple. Custom software is still in the early stages of development. As such, there is a scheduled Tuesday (tentative) release of the current test version on CM7. There is development of an ICS CM9 ROM in process as well. But there are no ETAs on anything alpha or beta.
My problem with the A100 is the poor battery life, plus i think the nook still has the better screen.. especially for reading if that's something you'll be doing.
The samsung player is nice hardware and works really well.. plus you get gps, camera etc.. but for me the screen is too small especially for reading.. but movies are nice.
I had both and returned both... you gotta love amazon with a prime account
Rooting the nook is cake... especially with the SD card method... and there are lots of guides here on the forum.. Once that is done you can get lots of apps..
But ultimately... you need to figure out what you want from the "tablet" and go from there..
I have what amounts to an unlimited toy budget, so I have the Samsung 5, the NC, the NT, the NST and one of the Asus Transformers.
I carry the Samsung wherever I go. I like it a lot, it's far more portable than the even the NC/NT or NST. I use Newsrob to read news articles on it, and listen to the BBC on it at night via TuneIn.
Eventually, I may give the NC away - the NT completely replaces it for my purposes.
I'll probably sell the Transformer at some point. Yes, it's big, shiny and sorta fast, and the games look great, but it's also big and shiny - the screen is not as good as the NC/NT because there's much more internal reflection. It's not very portable, and I find that I really don't like Honeycomb because you have to copy files to a Honeycomb device via the MTP interface or via wifi; I like being able to copy directly over the USB interface and synch stuff with Calibre - not an option over the MTP.
I like the NST for times when I'll be away from power for a bit, and because magazines on the NST are real epubs, none of that newfangled ehanced magazine stuff. So you can read them in any epub reader you like.
ok..nc=nook color, nt=nook tablet, nst=?
Nook Simple Touch
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I can't vouch for the others either but have my fair share of "tablets". I have used this nt more than any of them and I think the simple reason is size. It is the perfect balance of size and weight. I don't do any heavy gaming but feel that it offers a great environment for reading, browsing, email and tinkering. 2" less of screen real estate would in my opinion make it to small and 2" more is uncomfortable to balance. This nt is the sweet spot for me. Sitting up, laying down, portrait, landscape, it's all good.
The hardware you get for the price (especially if you can grab it for $199) is unmatched. Rooting is cake and development is starting to heat up.
I doubt you would be disapointed but in keeping with your question I'd say its between the nt and the acer.
I'll probably go nook tablet since hardware superiority over software inferiority(which can be fixed by rooting) seems to be the route to go. Here's another wrench into the question that I THINK I know the answer: is the nook tablet an upgrade from an iPod touch 4g? I realize I will be losing camera features and access to the tons of apps iTunes has, but once rooted I have android market. Any views on this? Basically looking for the "laptop lite" device...but bigger than my ipod and added feature of one handed computing while holding my daughter reading a book
Just want to let you know that the A100 does have 1GB of ram, the 512mb is a typo on their website. (you can find 1GB corrections and printed on the box) You can probably stretch the battery life to 6 hours with minimum brightness and wifi on.
well shoot..now that that has a gig of ram..makes things interesting...although one common factor I've seen listed almost everywhere IS horrible life with the acer as well as issues with viewing the screen unless you're viewing it straight on.
I was in Best Buy looking to purchase a tablet in November and saw the Acer for $250 and the salesperson told me they were sold out (only kept 5 in store). They had plenty of Nook tablets and sice I didn't want to wait, I purchased the Nook. I took it home and lset it up and was immediately impressed by the sharp and bright screen over the Acer but I was not happy at all with the default home manager. I fired up the internet and did a search and it brought me to this forum. Since late November, I have rooted the device amongst other hacks and recently installed CM7 alpha. I prefer Go Launcher over ADW home manager so I used NoBloat and Homemanager apk's so that I could switch to Go Launcher and install the Twitter and Facebook widgets. I had to fix permissions and i WIPED THE Develick cache and everything seems very responsive and smooth (i turn off all animations). Everything can be accessed on one homescreen (thanks to Go Launcher) and with cm7, no more problems with default Google widgets not loading. Once Bluetooth and Overclocking is added to the kernel (see cm7 post) the NT will be hard to beat.
I had a NT and an A100 tablets, on top of an iPad-2.
The iPad-2 cannot be beat when it comes to choice of apps and overall experience. My only problem with iPad is that any file I need to upload to my device has to be done with iTunes. And since I switch computers, iTunes is constantly removing stuff from my iPad. This for me a deal killer.
As for the other two tablets: NT and A100. I prefer by far the experience on the A100, everything is available from Google market. I don't need to sideload anything. It is multitouch, meaning that I can play piano, or other games that require more than 2 points to be recognized on the screen. The only issue I have with it is that its screen is not as bright as the NT. the A100 I own has only 8 gigs of storage, so I need to add more storage, but it is not a big problem since it has a microSD slot.
As for the NT, it's at best a glorified ereader. I don't have access to the full 16 GB of internal memory. It only recognizes 2 points on the screen. This is enough for a large number of apps, but a deal breaker for many interesting apps. I need to use Root Explorer to move files around. I rooted my NT to deal with some of the restrictions, but this is not a perfect solution. At best, it's a stop-gap solution. I can't use Google maps, as it needs my location, and I haven't figured out how to do it. The screen on the NT is definitely brighter than the A100, but it's not a big selling point in my opinion.
All in all, if I had to choose between the two, I would definitely go with the A100. It's an easy choice for me.
moukazwina said:
I had a NT and an A100 tablets, on top of an iPad-2.
The iPad-2 cannot be beat when it comes to choice of apps and overall experience. My only problem with iPad is that any file I need to upload to my device has to be done with iTunes. And since I switch computers, iTunes is constantly removing stuff from my iPad. This for me a deal killer.
As for the other two tablets: NT and A100. I prefer by far the experience on the A100, everything is available from Google market. I don't need to sideload anything. It is multitouch, meaning that I can play piano, or other games that require more than 2 points to be recognized on the screen. The only issue I have with it is that its screen is not as bright as the NT. the A100 I own has only 8 gigs of storage, so I need to add more storage, but it is not a big problem since it has a microSD slot.
As for the NT, it's at best a glorified ereader. I don't have access to the full 16 GB of internal memory. It only recognizes 2 points on the screen. This is enough for a large number of apps, but a deal breaker for many interesting apps. I need to use Root Explorer to move files around. I rooted my NT to deal with some of the restrictions, but this is not a perfect solution. At best, it's a stop-gap solution. I can't use Google maps, as it needs my location, and I haven't figured out how to do it. The screen on the NT is definitely brighter than the A100, but it's not a big selling point in my opinion.
All in all, if I had to choose between the two, I would definitely go with the A100. It's an easy choice for me.
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You can access all the internal memory once rooted and permissions set correctly. Google maps is functional as is, but if you want to use navigator, you need to use app such as GPS tether. I am rooted using go launcher, but kept all the B&N bloat and am very pleased with the NT. I think it's great value for the money. Could it be better? Sure, but what couldn't? CM7 and CM9 will only make the NT even more attractive.
Were looking at picking up an eReader. I was leaning towards the Kindle Fire vs Nook Color but now read about the Nook Tablet. From what I am understanding the KF is rootable now? And at this time what one would you pick and why? I do not want to buy only to regret the decision later?
So when it comes down to the two when rooted what are their real comparisons? Can I use Android Market and Amazon Market on the Nook Tablet? Spec wise it seems the Nook Tablet blows the KF out of the water but how about actual usage?
How is the comparison between the two when they are rooted? I know I will loose cloud which means storage is severely lacking if I root the KF. But is there anything that will be lost by rooting the Nook Tablet?
Which at this time do you recommend going with and why?
If you plan to root and install a custom rom I would suggest the nook tablet. The Nook Tablet has an sd card slot which is essential if you actually plan to have any use for your tab. 8gb runs out pretty quickly and plus 1GB versus 512mb of ram is a big difference performance wise. you can install amazon market (which sucks....) and also the officially market with ease. plus booting from an sd card is nice.
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There's nothing lost by rooting the NT- it has all the same preloaded apps and B&N stuff as pre-rooted, just you have all the benefits of root access as well. (alternative launchers, market, file explorers etc.)
I've been loving the NT since I first rooted it months ago- no complaints. I've been so happy with it I haven't even delved into putting CM7 on it just yet- but I'm sure I'll eventually get around to it. But even just rooted I highly recommend it.
About a month ago we were on vacation with some friends for a week -think mountains, snow, cabin, lots of down time. Friends had a KF (stock) and I had the NT (rooted). So during that time I observed a nice real-world comparison of the two. Granted, it was a little unfair since the KF wasn't rooted also, but many of the NT's advantages aren't related to that.
1. Speed. The NT is definitely snappier. I found it faster on the web, and gaming was definitely smoother.
2. Storage. The SD card slot is awesome. It was easy to swap movies with a friend who had some on the card for his phone. The KF was left out in the cold for this (no microSD card slot on their laptop either). Also, my NT was loaded down with tons of books, movies, downloaded 3D game content, music, etc. I had no worries for storage. Meanwhile the KF owner had their usable 6GB and that's it. They didn't load up much content before the trip because you don't feel you have much room to load up.
3. Hardware volume buttons. Major convenience. A bunch of times I needed to turn the vol down real quick to hear someone- no problem without fiddling in software. I saw the KF owner have to fumble with finding onscreen vol controls to do the same.
4. Sturdy. Not like I go around dropping it, but I didn't have as much fear of doing so as the Kindle owner. The NT feels sturdier in hand, and drop-tests I've seen confirm it actually is. Also, the NT feels nicer in your hand when you hold it for long periods. The outer bezels feel nicer, rather than the all-glass front of the KF. This is something you won't notice at first glance- but a few hours into a good book you will.
5. Screen. Personally, I think the NT's screen looks at least slightly better. This could be subjective of course.
6. Battery life. I dunno if it's typical, but in this exact case the NT stomped all over the KF. I was literally amazed how much better the real-world battery life was for the NT. And I didn't excessively use power-saving settings either. The differences were very evident too due to a lack of convenient power outlets. So the KF spent more time in another room being charged than my NT did.
7. Usage comparison. We swapped and compared devices a lot. My friends were much more impressed with my NT, than I was with their KF. Again, highly subjective of course, and also partially unfair since it was stock vs. rooted + multiple hacks making the NT of course the better user experience. Even so, the NT definitely holds it own. Now apparently even more so with CM7.
To me the $50 more is nothing compared to the better value of the NT. Of course, the KF is a nice device too, I just personally would feel I'd slighted myself if I had got one instead of the NT.
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I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
Although I'm really satisfied with the capabilities of even just a regular root, the only time I've regretted buying an NT was when I heard Asus was coming out with a new 7 inch tablet later this year. That makes me want to sell this thing instantly, haha.
To be honest with you i bought my NT as a stop gap between selling my iPad2 and waiting for the iPad3.. with the intent to sell this once i picked up the new iPad..
and for the first week or two i did regret buying it but then.. Considering what i use it for
1.Watch movies (netflix, hulu, and divx on the SD card),
2 Browse the internet and 3. Actually read a book or two.. it's actually perfect for all that.
Used the SD card method to root (Thanks Albert) and then side loaded all the apps that i needed. Never had Wifi or reboot issues, the screen is actually brighter and clearer than the iPad 2 i had and the battery life is above average for a 7 inch
I will be holding on to this for a while.. and i think once they perfect the other rom's and get the bluetooth working it's actually a keeper.. especially if ICS gets ported.
But as always you have to ask yourself does it do what i need?.. the only reason to get a different tablet would be if you needed GPS, Camera's, bigger screen, 3G, a different app store, video out etc....
if none of that is the reason.. then whatever tablet you buy will fill you with the same... should i have really bought this feeling..
I am comparing the NT with the $199 refurbished 16Gb HTC Flyer. I find that I miss CM7 on the Flyer... and the Flyer somehow seems harder to hold. I guess I got used to both CM7 and the bezel on the Nook Color and now the Nook Tablet. I haven't decided which I will keep yet, but I am leaning towards keeping the NT.
Heck no ... I've had 250.00 dollars worth of hacking fun with mine I have a feeling there is a lot more coming. Just wish I knew how to code to help out
Basically it boils down to what you want to do with it. Technically, you bought an e-reader. If you wanted more, you should have bought more. Myself personally, I came to XDA before I made up my mind between various tablets. I settled on the NT because I could see there was a bright future for it. The hardware bugs will be worked out eventually. Blame B&N for the hold-ups thus far. Give it a while. If you sell now, in 6 months, you will regret buying something else and will be looking to get another NT.
Understandably, there are limitations to this device. It's half the price of an iPad. You don't get any of the fancy things like GPS, 3G/LTE, camera, etc. But it is a great tablet for the money.
I bought this because my cheap e-reader broke. It was mainly to read with. That said, since I bought it 2 months ago, I haven't read more than a page of a book!
I've had tons of fun putting Android on, customizing it, and getting it how I like it. I'll be 10 times happier when a fully functional port of ICS is released for it. Netflix and videos look amazing on its screen, indisputably better than the supposedly identical screen on the Kindle Fire (just read ANY review).
I've never had an issue with the WIFI dropping or restarting. There are a few issues that the great devs and contributors here have helped me to conquer.
There are still a couple things I'd like to see get done to this device though, other than the glorious port of ICS. I'd love to be able to use ALL of the 16 GB of data on board. That was one top reason I chose it over the Fire, but I'm confident the great people here will solve that in time. Another is that, despite there not being onboard GPS, I'd still like location-based tools to work, like they do on any other WIFI device like my phone.
Other than that, I'm really happy with what I bought. I may not use it for what I initially intended, but hey, who has time to read when you're busy installing your favourite apps, customizing widgets, and making your home page perfect?
And on the issue of buyer's regret, when it comes to tablets and smartphones, there will ALWAYS be something better within 3-6 months!
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
My only regret so far is that I got the 8gb NT. It is actually my father-in-law's device, but I told him I would configure it to have better access to the Android market. I had read several posts about rooting and installing Go launcher (or equivalent) and was excited to do this. For the time being at least, it doesn't look like this is an option, and the 512k RAM looks to be an issue. I may try to convince him to return it and get the 16GB version. Since it's not mine, I guess I need to let him see if he is happy with it, but I'm chomping at the bit to put some of the great work from this forum to good use on his system!
Maybe I will have to just get my own. I have been talking about getting some kind of tablet with my wife, and will likely get something in the next couple months. Since I am used to a smartphone, it's hard not being able to install any app that I am familiar with, and I will likely go for something with more features.
As others have said, it's all about what you actually need/expect. And there will always be times when you second-guess what you do purchase... Buyer's remorse is just part of being human, IMO!
arclite00 said:
I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
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Well, I was able to get my Nook Tablet much more easily than a Kindle Fire because my University has a deal with Barnes & Noble; my school bookstore is basically a small B&N store full of textbooks. If I had the choice, I would have chosen the Kindle Fire, but I still like my Nook Tablet, especially now that CM7 is running on it.
I don't regret it, but let me say - I never liked my device hacks to be easy! Sounds masochistic, yes, but I've always enjoyed installing custom firmware on stuff that, until some hackers got a hold of it, was never able to run anything other than what the manufacturers intended. I'm talking about Wii, PSP, PDAs, etc.
If you think development for the Nook Tab is rough, think about how slow and brutal it was getting the PSP to run custom software. I suffered at least one electrocution modding the thing's battery because I didn't have much experience with moving pins on a chipset. It was worth it to get homebrew stuff running on there though.
My point is, while the Kindle Fire owners do have it a lot easier than us, I enjoy witnessing the development process first-hand; it's oddly satisfying. I understand some people around these forums are only here because they wanted a cheap CyanogenMod 7 Tablet and want to see the Nook Tablet become that - but I'll be lurking around here long after the Nook Tablet devs reach their goals because I'm fascinated by hacking and modifying devices.
cyberma007 said:
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
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I just realized that after my post. Haven't checked the posts here lately. It seems a little complicated for a noob like me. Plus, don't I have to install CM7 also to do it?
No you don't need to run CM7 to repartition, I am noob as well, it is very easy, it just looks hard.
Just follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22157605&postcount=25
Partition 10 is where you would put you own data
Partition 11 is where all apps go, when you install them.
on mine i did half half because a lot of games are pretty big and need space, but you can change it to you own need.
just do the commands in bold black, the rest that you see is what your nook outputs.
Update after using the HTC Flyer for a bit more. I think I will sell my 2 Nook Tablets and keep the HTC Flyers. At $199 they just offer so much more.... GPS, front and back cameras, working bluetooth, working skype, dual speakers that are loud, HDMI out via MHL (adapter on the way). The built-in 16gb is partitioned so there is 8+ GB for media stuff. And for my almost 7 year old, he loves that Talking Tomcat and Talking Ben work, and Galaxy on Fire 2 runs fast on the Flyer as well since there is a native adreno version. It is only single core but runs at 1.5ghz and has 1gb ram so it feels as fast at the NT if not faster in some cases. The Adreno 205 gpu is not rated quite as good as the Powervr SGX540 but seems to be well supported for gaming. Not to say that there are not some annoyances with the Flyer. I can't seem to turn off the lock screen. There is no CM7 though there are custom roms for both Gingerbread and Honeycomb for the Flyer (need to root and unlock the device first). And I need to find better cases for them. Anyway I think the refurbished HTC Flyer is a keeper at $199 from buy.com And of course I can read on them with Moon+ Reader Pro, Kindle App, Nook App, etc.
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So far no regrets. Just installed cm7 and happy.
Plus I only paid $175 for my 16gb tablet on Craigslist.
Hopefully cm9 makes it's way to the tablet.
My only regrets are the possibility of what the Asus tablet might offer and that the NT can be had for $175 now. Those aren't really fair reasons though since there will always be price drops and always be new options if you wait. I wanted it for Christmas and it's been everything I expected. I'm rooted at 1.4.0, zero WiFi issues and it's never rebooted (I did have a frozen screen once). I plan on staying on this platform until the fine developers on this forum give me the option of ICS for my NT!
I have no regrets at all. It let me do everything I really cared about right out of the box for a price I didn't mind paying. Any additional functionality after ebooks, videos, music and some light web browsing is just so much gravy as far as I'm concerned.
I love it, but primarily because I bought into the B&N ecosystem years ago (I have about 400 books and magazine subscriptions). It's much more pleasant to read on the NT than it is on my iPad, due to weight and size. Movies are great, except for the below-average speaker. I don't surf the Internet on my NT; if I have to do it mobile, I prefer to leave that to my phone since I can do it one-handed. My only qualms:
1. There needs to be an Economist magazine app, built for the Nook. You can't install the one from Android Market, even after rooting.
2. The speaker, as mentioned above.
3. The little hook in the bottom corner is kinda annoying. Yes, I know it makes the design unique, but it gets in the way. It also makes accessing the MicroSD card a pain.
4. At $250, GPS would've been nice. Not that I expect to carry it around for turn-by-turn, but I'd like to access the map and Yelp for places to eat while in my hotel room.
I don't regret getting the NT16 at all. But then again my uses for the device are:
1. Reading. I read a LOT.
2. Playing games
3. Surfing the internet
4. Study device (read pdfs/powerpoints/word docs for school)
I also have music and movies stored on the device for the day when I need to entertain myself outside reading/games and off a wifi network. It's small and light enough to carry at all times in my purse or backpack and zippy enough to do what I need it to do.
Once CM9 is released I'll have to debate a lot on whether or not I want to keep my simple root with the BN eReader or upgrade to ICS for full tablet capabilities (like all those excellent note taking apps compatible with Honeycomb/ICS)
No regrets at all.
Initially when it appeared that B&N was going to hound us endlessly trying to disable root and return everyone's NT to 'jail', I was a bit resentful. I still don't recommend the NT to others because I don't trust them.
But I should have known the dimbulbs in B&N management are no match for the talented devs here. I've got no worries that my device can be ruined with an underhanded update- and I haven't done much of anything to secure it since I first rooted it back in December or so. (Still running rooted 1.4.0 with no problems). The fact that it can now run CM7 (which I haven't tried yet) is just icing on the cake. I'm guessing I'll love it even more once I get around to trying that.
The tablet does everything I need it to and more, and was a good deal for the price.
Next tablet I own probably won't be a locked device, but as for the NT itself, no regrets. That's 100% thanks to the devs here.