ok, so this might sound N00bish, but i wanted to know when the Atrix ICS update rolls out, will i be able to update OTA with an unlocked bootloader?
Nobody knows the answers to your questions. Motorola is keeping this under tight wraps, for all we know know, we may be done with at gb, and the only way to get ics is with unofficial roms.
I am only speculating at this point, but I would assume having an unlocked boot loader should have no effect on the update, but if u can install a custom rom , why bother with the bloat ware?
cannuks76 said:
ok, so this might sound N00bish, but i wanted to know when the Atrix ICS update rolls out, will i be able to update OTA with an unlocked bootloader?
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If you are anything but stock, i.e. rooted, frozen/deleted any Blur apps, etc., you won't be able to OTA until you are back to stock again. As for the unlocked bootloader, no idea if that will stop you.
Motorola has "officially" added the Atrix to the ICS update list:
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Just an FYI, I agree that staying with a custom ROM is the way to go.
caster62003 said:
Nobody knows the answers to your questions. Motorola is keeping this under tight wraps, for all we know know, we may be done with at gb, and the only way to get ics is with unofficial roms.
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live4nyy said:
Motorola has "officially" added the Atrix to the ICS update list:
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Just an FYI, I agree that staying with a custom ROM is the way to go.
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My mom said Santa Claus was real too......
Just flash CM9 now or wait until Neutrino CM9 comes out and you'll have ICS and no junk/bloat with it.
^^^ Agreed and I'm sure moto-ics won't be that great anyhow.
#Sent from my God given Atrix 4G
thanks everyone for the answers, i think ill stick to CM9 and plus the backup of the stock ROM is almost 4 months old lol (I.E lots of apps missing if they do release the official update, at that point there will be a CM11 coming out with Jelly Bean
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^^^ Agreed and I'm sure moto-ics won't be that great anyhow.
#Sent from my God given Atrix 4G
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Most people know that Moto-ICS wont be that great...what we are looking forward are the official ICS Tegra 2 drivers for our device, so we can actually have a fully working and stable CM9 rom.
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I was recently using the drippler application and it said that there will be an update soon coming out for the thunderbolt again any word on this.
Only things I've seen are what jcase tweeted about GB OTA testing @ VZW. But I haven't actually looked for anything further detailing.
http://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/92055760430841856
http://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/92021408661647360
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I was recently using the drippler application and it said that there will be an update soon coming out for the thunderbolt again any word on this.
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Real information or stuff i can make up to make you happy for a little bit (also called pulling a verizon)
I for once am waiting patiently for the update. It will get here when it get's here. Right now there are plenty of GB roms out there to try but at this point I am going to stick with rooted stock.
Please accept my up-front apologies for being a n00b to the rooted update world.
My assumption is that if we are running a custom ROM, an OTA update from Verizon will not help us and is not advisable.
In case of a Gingerbread OTA, are people planning on reverting to stock to take advantage of the VZW offering? Or is it only that an official GB gives the developer community better, more current source to build from?
I could be mistaken but I do not think I am. Most OTA updates have already been leaked on XDA(usually devs and other people are good about keeping there eyes open for this stuff). Also I believe that if you are rooted you will nto receive the OTA update and nothing will happen. However if you want to get it then you should unroot. But most likely(if it already hasnt happened) people will put the new OTA update on xda quite fast! Hope this helps
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Please accept my up-front apologies for being a n00b to the rooted update world.
My assumption is that if we are running a custom ROM, an OTA update from Verizon will not help us and is not advisable.
In case of a Gingerbread OTA, are people planning on reverting to stock to take advantage of the VZW offering? Or is it only that an official GB gives the developer community better, more current source to build from?
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Yeah it gives the devs a more stable base to work from. Also from what I saw if you want to root do NOT take the gingerbread update. It closes all known exploits. And of course if you are already rooted don't take any OTAs just wait for someone to post a rooted version if you want to try it.
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Yeah it gives the devs a more stable base to work from. Also from what I saw if you want to root do NOT take the gingerbread update. It closes all known exploits. And of course if you are already rooted don't take any OTAs just wait for someone to post a rooted version if you want to try it.
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Will do. Thanks for the confirmation, JBO1018 !
Hey!
Today I recieved my new t-mobile uk Atrix, sent to me from England.
Before I got it I had a HTC Desire, rooted, CWM installed and running custom AOSP roms with 2.3. I really liked that setup, minimalistic and no useless bloatware.
I've tried to read up on the matter, but it's a jungle..
This is how I understand it:
If I update to stock 2.3, it will be harder to unlock it and install custom roms in the future. This is wrong, it would in fact be much easier.
There probably won't be any AOSP roms, because the Atrix is quite different from the other phone, with the webtop and fingerprint reader (which i probably wont even use)
If it wasn't for all the red warning text, it would already be unlocked and romed. So what to do? Unlock and search through the masses for a bugg free deblurred 2.3 rom, or just update with the stock update and run with Zeam launcher instead? Can you install a stock rom on a unlocked bootloader?
Any ideas? Other suggestions?
Thanks for your help!
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Hey!
Today I recieved my new t-mobile uk Atrix, sent to me from England.
Before I got it I had a HTC Desire, rooted, CWM installed and running custom AOSP roms with 2.3. I really liked that setup, minimalistic and no useless bloatware.
I've tried to read up on the matter, but it's a jungle..
This is how I understand it:
If I update to stock 2.3, it will be harder to unlock it and install custom roms in the future
There probably won't be any AOSP roms, because the Atrix is quite different from the other phone, with the webtop and fingerprint reader (which i probably wont even use)
If it wasn't for all the red warning text, it would already be unlocked and romed. So what to do? Unlock and search through the masses for a bugg free deblurred 2.3 rom, or just update with the stock update and run with Zeam launcher instead? Can you install a stock rom on a unlocked bootloader?
Any ideas? Other suggestions?
Thanks for your help!
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i'd say go for it, just do your research beforehand. it's a pretty simple process, just flash the corresponding pudding .sbf and run the 'fastboot oem unlock' command while in fastboot mode.
then you can proceed to flash a copy of CWM Recovery and install CM7, which is as AOSP as it gets! it doesn't have Fingerprint Scanner or Webtop yet, but Top Men are working on it so expect it all up and working before too long!
Thank you for the respons!
so I basically do what this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196747) says?
Also, I saw a video where the person warned not to run RSD if you weren't on the newest, non gingerbread, release of stock. I assume that applies to t-mobile users aswell?
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If it wasn't for all the red warning text, it would already be unlocked and romed.
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You and me both. I've had mine for a while (March) and have yet to take that leap. So far, running 2.3.4 O.T.A. w/root I am pretty satisfied. While I am certain that the experience would be greatly enhanced by flashing a different rom. I am simply too much of a chicken to take that leap. I've messed with a few other Android devices and was never too worried when flashing roms. But geez, all of those brick stories around here...
Whichever way that you decide to go, I am sure that you will be fine. The best of luck to ya.
Can anyone just confirm that I need to stuff in this order:
Root it.
Unlock bootloader using this method
Install a CWM, (probably gonna go with RomRacers)
Install a ROM.
ok i did the ota to 2.3 eventually used the autoscripter in general to root/unlock and aosp roms are starting with the cm7 beta once they have finished product its open game so far on cm7 beta myself totally worth it
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You and me both. I've had mine for a while (March) and have yet to take that leap. So far, running 2.3.4 O.T.A. w/root I am pretty satisfied. While I am certain that the experience would be greatly enhanced by flashing a different rom. I am simply too much of a chicken to take that leap. I've messed with a few other Android devices and was never too worried when flashing roms. But geez, all of those brick stories around here...
Whichever way that you decide to go, I am sure that you will be fine. The best of luck to ya.
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Im in the same exact boat. I've rooted other phones easily, but this one scares me for some reason.
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HI
I have a question regarding ICS update. since I have not rooted phone yet and i am stll using stock firmware(rom). my question is if I update to the official ics release will I be able to root it and install custom roms in the future? I am asking this because I am worried that by updating it might update it self to baseband to newer version that cannot be rooted.
Can you please confirm that its safe for me to update so I will be able to modifiy in the future?(bear in mind i have not moddified anything yet(basedand bootloader rom etc and i will want to do these in near future after i read enough tutorials)
thanks
fccfreak said:
HI
I have a question regarding ICS update. since I have not rooted phone yet and i am stll using stock firmware(rom). my question is if I update to the official ics release will I be able to root it and install custom roms in the future? I am asking this because I am worried that by updating it might update it self to baseband to newer version that cannot be rooted.
Can you please confirm that its safe for me to update so I will be able to modifiy in the future?(bear in mind i have not moddified anything yet(basedand bootloader rom etc and i will want to do these in near future after i read enough tutorials)
thanks
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It's safe to upgrade to ICS 4.0.3, because I have done it when I got my EVO 3D, then unlocked & root successfully! So don't worry, but anyway, 2.3.x is more easy to unlock, root & s-off, because my 4.0.3 phone can't be S-OFF.
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zcink said:
safe? yes, but not recommended IF you want to flash custom roms in the future.
Much better to unlock bootloader, root the phone go s-off and flash custom roms. The upgrade will change your HBoot which limits your options.
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It's right, my hboot now is 2.05.0000, and i can do nothing with it!!!
how about if your rooted, and want the stock sprint rom. can you accept the download when it is pushed out?
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how about if your rooted, and want the stock sprint rom. can you accept the download when it is pushed out?
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To add to what zcink said, if you have patience, the VM leak custom Roms will all incorporate or realign to the Sprint ota once it's released. The ics we run now through custom Roms is most likely better now than what Sprint will push out and definitely will be better once the customs realign. We just need HTC to release source for better kernels.
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Might as well wait for JB now... CM10 looks promising.
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Might as well wait for JB now... CM10 looks promising.
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JB isn't even in Alpha stages for GSM users.
OP, if you want to upgrade to ICS, use a custom ROM as said before.
Once your HBoot gets upgraded, you'll have a lot of trouble in an attempt to root again.
Plus, custom ROMs are better!
Guys,
I want you to debate on my strange confusion...
I'm currently on Stock 2.3.4 198_7 and using Mof's v2.
My question is we don't have any SBF of 2.3.5 if we messed up our phone... So we have to use 2.3.4 as base to do anything.. :silly:
If we want to use 2.3.5, there is only OTA!!!!! And OTA only works with 198_6
So in case in future if Moto releases ICS & JB (I know I'm too optimistic) do we need a base of 2.3.5 or we will be able to update it from 198_6/7 base?
I thinks we should prepare ourselves for all the situations.
1. We must have 198_6 Stock for future use
2. We must have 2.3.5 OTA for future use
or
Will Moto release SBF? But again they might need base as 2.3.5!!! Who knows?
What you people say..
matriX1218 said:
Guys,
I want you to debate on my strange confusion...
I'm currently on Stock 2.3.4 198_7 and using Mof's v2.
My question is we don't have any SBF of 2.3.5 if we messed up our phone... So we have to use 2.3.4 as base to do anything.. :silly:
If we want to use 2.3.5, there is only OTA!!!!! And OTA only works with 198_6
So in case in future if Moto releases ICS & JB (I know I'm too optimistic) do we need a base of 2.3.5 or we will be able to update it from 198_6/7 base?
I thinks we should prepare ourselves for all the situations.
1. We must have 198_6 Stock for future use
2. We must have 2.3.5 OTA for future use
or
Will Moto release SBF? But again they might need base as 2.3.5!!! Who knows?
What you people say..
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i think the developers here will build Roms on the official ICS release and we can install them with unlocked boot loader. So it im guessing its better if we stuck with the unlocked boot loader versions for now
I think ICS update won't be the same OTA update with patches, we had until now. There could be whole flashable partitions. I wonder what happened to webtop partition in RAZR after ICS update, for example.
rituel said:
i think the developers here will build Roms on the official ICS release and we can install them with unlocked boot loader. So it im guessing its better if we stuck with the unlocked boot loader versions for now
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You might be right but What if we stuck unlocked.. means no 4G.. Then?
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I think ICS update won't be the same OTA update with patches, we had until now. There could be whole flashable partitions. I wonder what happened to webtop partition in RAZR after ICS update, for example.
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Lets pray, but If its a flashable SBF then again it won't be unlockable like 2.3.5... :silly: Means no customization...
So Either we will be on 2.3.4 or Stucked with ICS..
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I think ICS update won't be the same OTA update with patches, we had until now. There could be whole flashable partitions. I wonder what happened to webtop partition in RAZR after ICS update, for example.
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After a ton of digging, screaming at Moto and chatting with OMAP Moto owners, it looks like the /osh (Webtop) partition is simply abandoned. In other words, you don't get the storage space back and the phone treats it as if it never existed.
(You can imagine how diehard Webtop users have responded to this and the dock+webtop3.0 issues)
Don't lose hope though. It may not be a perfect solution but there's is word of something in the works.
Glad, you're back, Loki. Thanks for answering. I take anything Motorola comes with in ICS, because when it comes, I will be buying new Moto phone probably. This one is starting to be slow for me.
Hello.
I just got my hands on a Photon 4G.
I'm looking for alternative rom to stock.
However, I noticed that all roms have no 4G wimax. Is that correct? Or, I'm not looking hard enough.
Thank you.
To flash most ROMs you need to unlock your bootloader, flashing a new bootloader breaks 4G.
But you might not have to worry about that, what's your android version number 2.3.4 or 2.3.5?
If you updated your phone to 2.3.5 OTA, that'll lock the bootloader permanently.
I did the 2.3.5 OTA.
So, therefore, no custom roms for me?
And, apparently, Sprint/Motorola will not be updating phone to ICS.
Pretty much, I'm out of luck?
Bock Abrams said:
To flash most ROMs you need to unlock your bootloader, flashing a new bootloader breaks 4G.
But you might not have to worry about that, what's your android version number 2.3.4 or 2.3.5?
If you updated your phone to 2.3.5 OTA, that'll lock the bootloader permanently.
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knite75 said:
I did the 2.3.5 OTA.
So, therefore, no custom roms for me?
And, apparently, Sprint/Motorola will not be updating phone to ICS.
Pretty much, I'm out of luck?
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Pretty much. I know there's locked ROMs but I'm not sure if there are 2.3.5 compatible
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Pretty much. I know there's locked ROMs but I'm not sure if there are 2.3.5 compatible
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I got tired of the OTA bugging me constantly, and was pretty sure I wasn't going to root again, because 1) I had Foxfi for WiFi tether and 2) none of the ROMS that DON'T break 4g were that interesting. So I downloaded it. But, I also fully expected to get ICS from Google, because they promised, on the official ICS upgrade list, that the Photon would be there. BUT, YET AGAIN, THEY LIED!
SO... I have an app that let me re-image my device back to pre-root before, and it was 2.3.4. Can I root, then re-image back to 2.3.4, then apply a ROM?
ALSO, I have heard of unlocking and re-locking the bootloader. Can I root, unlock the bootloader, ROM, then re-lock and restore 4g? If so, how?
And, with ALL the 4g WiMax out there, and so, little 3g even functioning these days, why can't anyone seem to not break WiMax when ROMing? I'm just asking, because I really don't know.
Thanks!
Re-locking your bootloader won't restore 4g. I don't have 4g in my area so haven't ever connected to it so not sure if its much faster. If you want to try custom a ROM then unlock and try it. Can always undo it. That's if you can actually get off 2.3.5