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I know that there have already been posts about this but...... I played with my friends galaxy s - vodafone branded. Totally rubbish screen. Vibrant, oversaturated, and very very blurry - almost PSP screen blurry. It was awful, and text virtually unreadable. Then, both my parents got iPhone 4s. WOW. Screen is so sharp its beautiful. Atrix was looking great until I saw that it was RGBW rather than RGB. Why? Can anyone comment? Is it better/worse than galaxy s clarity wise? Better/worse than iPhone 4 clarity wise? Any photos MUCH appreciated. Thanks a lot
iPhone 4 > Motorola Atrix
iPhone 4 has a 3.5" screen with a resolution of 960 by 640.
Now this screen is just drop-dead gorgeous. And nobody can argue with that. It has a pixel density of 326 ppi. This is more than the human eye can see, and is thus named the 'Retina Display'
On the other hand, the Motorola Atrix is much newer and is running Android. It has a 540by 960 but a 4 inch display. This is considerably more blurry than the iPhone 4's display. It has a useless laptop dock but for $499 who will think to buy it?!?!?!?! It does not even have a proper OS on it!
Once you have used the iPhone 4 I can assure you that you will never return to the Motorola Atrix. Now if you are a gamer like me, then you need a good Applications Store. The Apple iPhone 4 has the Apple App Store with stunning applications with HD graphics. Whereas, the Motorola Atrix utilises the Android Market which has rubbish, useless, demo apps. The best application on the Android Market is probably Angry Birds, which has advertisements filling the screen and can become very buggy.
In conclusion, I believe that iPhone 4, albeit much older, is superior to the Motorola Atrix anyday. This shows how Apple remains victorious so far. Until the iPhone 5 is released.
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holy fanboy batman!
yes, the pixel density of the iphone4 is better, but i assure you it's not so great you can't see it.
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Deary me, another appolyte . iSheep these days....
You have a point with the retina display being a higher PPI. Wow. It took a genius to figure that out. I'm trying to find out how much better it is, and I really can't take a trolls word for it :/
DarkyHero,
I want to thank you, I have not had a good laugh all day until reading your post.
kartik50,
First off i'd recommend to not pay any attention to trolls with some agenda and half baked inaccurate ideas.
But, moving on, in my family we have the Galaxy S, Iphone 4 and I have the Atrix. I do find the Iphone screen to be very good, no question about it however I personally liked the Galaxy S screen better. But that was until I got my Atrix. It was then I noticed how over saturated the Galaxy S looked (and as you said a little blurry, but not by much) when putting them side by side. As far as what one out of the three are the best? I think its personal preference and all 3 (to me) look very good. I'd pick the screen of the iPhone4 1st then the Atrix second. The Atrix is very sharp and clear and I'm having no complaints.
As far as the obvious far from fact-based claim from DarkyHero about the app market on Android.. I'm sure you recognize a troll for what they are.
I guess my eyes are just weird then. My freind standing right next to me, couldn't see any of the issues I could with the Galaxy s screen. We only looked at the Touchwiz Ui 3.0 text. However, iPhone blows me away. I have a 3GS right now, so I hope that the Atrix is far far superior. On a side note, Atrix vs Xperia Play? Both on Orange Uk, update months overdue.......
iPhone 4 wins as far as displays go. There isn't another mobile device on the market with a better screen. The Atrix has the best looking screen of any Android device, unless of course you like the oversaturated samsung super amoleds. The only use case where the Atrix's screen falls short is when brightness is cranked up to max, but there is honestly no need to do this unless you are trying to look at your phone in direct sun light.
I wish we were able to save you before the Apple troll showed up. Anyway.
iPhone 4 does have a beautiful screen, however, this 3.5" screen is way too small to enjoy. Once you try a +4" screen, you won't ever go back. Moreover, Atrix has the same footprint of iPhone 4, so you won't notice any extra bulk with the significantly bigger screen.
qHD is almost same as iPhone 4's screen resolution, so there should be no worries there either. As a matter of fact, given the widescreen you'll find on the Atrix, you'll see more pixels of your movies than you normally would on iPhone 4's square-ish display.
A BIG difference between iPhone 4 and Atrix is the dual-core Cortex A9-based Tegra 2 processor; you'll get a seemless FULL DESKTOP experience when browsing the web. With Opera Mobile 11, you'll be able to have iPhone-smoothness as well.
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Is this a serious post? Or are you just this big of an idiot? The iTurd does not have a retina display, it was just marketing hype.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/iphone-4-retina/
I one minute Google search found this.
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wow!
Something tells me dhero has never used an atrix, been an android power user, played starfox 64 on their atrix with a wiimote, or understood the walled garden of apple's for what it is: a fortress of steve jobs devoid of hacking(the good kind), pornography, and meant for people of all ages, like the 13 year old darky hero here. Judging by your blind optimism for iOS and writing, maybe steve jobs was on the money making a sanitized kids toy. Oh wait its not a kids toy it shatters like a wine glass from 4 feet. Ok, I guess he just wants your money. Every year. You cannot even swap the damn batteries out, my last smartphone lasted me 3 years with 4 batteries. And yes it got five days of solid use with an extended battery...
Ugh don’t get me started on apple and their financial brilliance(their financial success often comes at the cost of their customers, *cough* apple tax *cough*).
So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
Definitely. SGS has a 480x800 sceen. Clarity will definitely be better than that.
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So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
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I haven't seen any lag on my phone. Granted, I'm coming from a Touch Pro, so anything should seem fast buuuut...
Get Opera Mobile from the marketplace for a web browser and it clips along pretty good.
So it's not android optimization for dual core? If thats the case, then why te f.u.c.k did Moto even put on blur?!
I have two screenshots with accompanying pictures of the screen for comparison:
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1-t2i.jpg
You'll notice any solid color ends up being "checkerboarded" by the PenTile screen.
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1-t2i.jpg
The gradient was already weird (blocky?) in the screenshot, but on the actual screen it just looks terrible.
I notice the PenTile color "checkerboarding" all the time in w/e apps or videos and it is a distraction but for me it isn't a deal breaker.
Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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What is clipping?
The Atrix has a 4" display with 540 x 960 resolution. This is higher pixel density than almost every other phone on the market except the iPhone 4. The iPhone, however, only has a 3.5" display, and once you have used a 4" display for any length of time (or even a 3.7") it is very hard to loose that extra space. It is the highest resolution and pixel density android phone available (except for that Sharp one in Japan that is an NTT DoCoMo exclusive and uses the same display Sharp supply to Apple).
PenTile is laid out RRB GGB so you have RGB, just two lots of each. Unless you are insanely fussy about screens, you will not notice. Plus it will look better than most other screens purely for having a higher pixel density.
I wouldn't worry about it being PenTile. Have a look at this http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4 .
I just wanted your guys opinion on doing a reveiew side by side comparison between these two. My girlfriend gets her ipad tommorow morning and thought about doin this and uploading it to YouTube?
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I just wanted your guys opinion on doing a reveiew side by side comparison between these two. My girlfriend gets her ipad tommorow morning and thought about doin this and uploading it to YouTube?
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Would love to see it.
I'd love a comparison of the screens specifically - my wife's iphone 4 retina display is crisp, but it's not WOW like the Note.
Samsung really has a leg up with the Super Amoled tech - no one is touching it right now.
Kinda comparing apples and oranges here arn't we?
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Kinda comparing apples and oranges here arn't we?
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Apples to Androids. I agree, an iPad is a somewhat different device, although I sold my first gen to help fund my $299 upgrade to the Note (thanks in part to iPhone 4 resale prices plummeting)
Still, having just come from several iPhones and an iPad myself, I think a comparison between lower DPI AMOLED and higher Retina is valid in concept, since some will say the crispness of the Apple displays (even if smaller) is superior to the slightly lower per mm density of the Samsung. I've gone back and forth, myself. Sometimes this Note AMOLED seems almost too saturated for my tastes, and you can't deny that text and fine details look amazing on Retina, but the latter definitely doesn't have the deep rich hues, either.
i dont think you can hold up the ipad next to your ear and talk ....
I own both the iPad and the Note. And will start off saying I love both devices. I am not a fan of the iPhone, owned many in the past. The iPads Retina display is pretty damn WOW I'm not gonna lie. It's insanely crisp and very accurate color reproduction. In videos/movies as well as pictures the iPads is more realistic where the Note has Samsung 's vibrant color punch. Both do a good job in their respect. I wasn't gonna even get the iPad but figured I'd get it for my GF and use it when I wanted. Ans see what the fuss was about with the Retina display.
The blacks on the note are darker via the Super Amoled. But suffers from black crush time to time in dark scenes and block pixelation. The iPads retina is something that has to be seen in person to do it justice. It literally looks fake it's that clear lol
Like stated the Note gives off very saturated colors, which is fine with me. I need to do some more side by side comparison. But as of right now I'm gonna have to give it to the Retina display wise. The super clear text, very accurate color reproduction is pretty amazing.
I will say having both is kinda best if both worlds. I enjoy the iPad because it does exactly what I want it to do, and very well. Plus I'm a display snob lol. I had a Transformer Prime which I returned. Had to many problems and went through a few of them. I also like Apples 4:3 ratio for web browsing and gaming actually. I hate iPhones though lol. My Note satisfies my geek side with customizing and over clocking and such. It all depends what you want your device to do. Plus the Direct Tv app on the iPad is BOSS!
But if you ask me what device is better overall in a toe toe fight.... I'd say the Galaxy a note
Compare Galaxy Note with Ipad 3??? WTF Hahahah, That's a funny thought. It would be ok to compare Galaxy Note 10.1" with Ipad 3.
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Compare Galaxy Note with Ipad 3??? WTF Hahahah, That's a funny thought. It would be ok to compare Galaxy Note 10.1" with Ipad 3.
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I agree with this. I was just trying to give you guys a idea what I see as far as display wise. I'm eagerly awaiting on a Galaxy Note tablet. However, owning a Note it might feel unnecessary if you know what I mean. Being they will be identical just a larger screen.
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I agree with this. I was just trying to give you guys a idea what I see as far as display wise. I'm eagerly awaiting on a Galaxy Note tablet. However, owning a Note it might feel unnecessary if you know what I mean. Being they will be identical just a larger screen.
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That's why i always have the HP TouchPad $99 running ICS 4.0 to play if i need something bigger to play around.
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That's why i always have the HP TouchPad $99 running ICS 4.0 to play if i need something bigger to play around.
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Yea I would have deff snagged a Touch Pad at $99 when they were around.
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i dont think you can hold up the ipad next to your ear and talk ....
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My co-workers mock me relentlessly about the hugeness of my phone. When one of their ipads arrived, he came over to my office holding it up to his head like a phone and said 'Who's got the bigger phone now tough guy!'
Nubs, just don't understand
The new iPad screen is made by Samsung... so not sure Apple wins either way.
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prayii said:
The new iPad screen is made by Samsung... so not sure Apple wins either way.
Exactly! Also the A5X chip is essentially a Samsung Exynos chip. All Apple does is send Samsung the blue print and Samsung makes the chip for them. This time around Samsung also did the LCD display like noted above. It was speculated to be Sharp this time around but lookie lookie lol.
It's all so funny how thet are taking each other to court but Samsung makes the processor and the display for the iPad lol.
Either way we have a new iPad in our home which is used by the GF the majority of the time. But both serve their purpose.
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I think a comparison between lower DPI AMOLED and higher Retina is valid in concept, since some will say the crispness of the Apple displays (even if smaller) is superior to the slightly lower per mm density of the Samsung.
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Actually, Apple's new "Retina" display doesn't even adhere to their own [original] requirements of a Retina display (I don't recall what the numbers were, but Jobs presented them when the iPhone 4 was released). It's just marketing (aka APPLE LIES). The Note has a higher PPI than the new iPad does. The new iPad has 264 Pixels Per Inch, while the Note has 284.8 Pixels Per Inch. Ignoring trademarks, we have more of a right to use "Retina Display" than Apple does.
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I own both the iPad and the Note. And will start off saying I love both devices. I am not a fan of the iPhone, owned many in the past. The iPads Retina display is pretty damn WOW I'm not gonna lie. It's insanely crisp and very accurate color reproduction. In videos/movies as well as pictures the iPads is more realistic where the Note has Samsung 's vibrant color punch. Both do a good job in their respect. I wasn't gonna even get the iPad but figured I'd get it for my GF and use it when I wanted. Ans see what the fuss was about with the Retina display.
The blacks on the note are darker via the Super Amoled. But suffers from black crush time to time in dark scenes and block pixelation. The iPads retina is something that has to be seen in person to do it justice. It literally looks fake it's that clear lol
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I'm sorry, but I just don't get all of the hype over the Apple's retina display. I own the 4th generation iPod touch with the retina display, and I can't remember ever gawking over how amazingly beautiful it is. Same goes for the iPhone 4S. I remember right after it came out, I went to the Apple Store to get an accessory. I literally played with the 4S for several minutes, and didn't notice until after I left the store that I hadn't paid any attention to the retina display. Things like that usually JUMP out at me. I'm really particular about screen quality. That's why I own a 3D LED TV. I wanted the best screen possible and I can see the difference. With the retina displays, I've never noticed anything eye-popping about them, except when watching videos. That's where Apple products have always shined. They have superior video quality.
But, I've been a million times more amazed with the quality of my Galaxy Note super AMOLED HD display, than the retina display. I watched high quality Netflix movies on both devices, and the Notes screen was better in most instances. True, the Apple products display natural colors better than anyone else, but who wants to see natural colors on an HD TV or phone? That's the whole reason why people go HD. They want bright, vibrant colors. Also, I don't know if you know, but there are three settings on the Note that changes the screen colors when watching videos: Vivid, Natural, and Movie. I don't know if those are the right terms, but it's close enough. Each setting is actually noticeably different.
I was not aware of that you can change the picture mode while watching videos. Thanks.
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So I got the Nexus 10 (sold iPad 3 to get it) and I am impressed with it. The screen is amazing, I have good battery life, and excellent performance.
However, streaming Netflix is not as crisp, the lack of tablet optimized apps is annoying, and reading is kind of awkward. I don't like landscape reading and portrait mode is too tall.
It seems like the huge resolution is ahead of it's time and I am sure it's just a matter of waiting for apps to catch up.
These are a few things that have been bothering me lately with this tablet.
Anyone else have these thoughts or know how to get passed the early adoption period? I am debating whether or not to sell it and get the Nexus 7. Seems like a reasonable (more universal) screen resolution with plenty of power. Also, seems like a good size for reading and web surfing.
Thanks.
UPDATE: Thanks for all of the feedback.
After writing this post, I found some awesome review videos from YouTuber "oode". After watching those, I spent some time tweaking and getting my n10 set up. It helped me realize what a rad tablet we have in the n10.
I still have a few annoyances to figure out with movies (best player to use and rip settings), HD Netflix streaming, and better battery life tips. I am sure more Googling and XDA searching will help answer these.
Before you sell it and get a Nexus 7, see if anyone you know has one and try it out. It would suck for you to sell the 10, get a 7 and find out you regret it. This is my second 10 inch tab, and at first it can see overwhelming, especially with the 10's resolution, but just keep playing with it. It will grow on you. Before long you will have no issues reading in portrait mode. For me its like reading a hard cover book without the weight and thickness. I hope you grow to like, and as for apps, I dealt with that with my last tablet.....not to many tablet optimized apps, and now I am seeing it again. Not a deal breaker for me. I would rather have apps playing catch up then my tablet be out dated in a month. Just my opinions.
Don't get a Nexus 7. The screen isn't very good and screen lift.
I just got mine today and well i can say i am really impressed with it , and i love it. I know there are not many apps optimized for the tab but yeah its not that bad for me. Also My netflix streaming is awesome, whats happening to yours ?
If you feel the screen is too big try using a 15 inch laptop for a while which will put the Nexus 10 inch screen with it's higher screen resolution in/to perspecive.
I have not touched my laptop since getting the Nexus 10 which was not the case with my Galaxy tab 7.7 inch screen which I have sold.
I find, just like my laptop, that I don't need any apps for using the Web and there are plenty of stand alone apps for navigation, music, office, games etc.
I hold the Nexus 10 in landscape like a laptop for viewing videos and web sites with a lot of full width detail so that I don't need to zoom, otherwise I use portrait.
Think twice before selling the Nexus 10 for it is the only tablet which gives a high definition Netbook performance in an even more portable format.
Try the Ocean browser too for it makes Web browsing on the Nexus 10 very fast and it supports Flash too.
I feel the same way OP. I had a nexus 7 and I loved it. Netflix and video media on the nexus 10 is a turn down. The screen is amazing but I sold my nexus 7 for a better media viewing experiece. The watching of media or movies isn't good at all on the Nexus 10.
I'm also debating of keeping or returning.
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I feel the same way OP. I had a nexus 7 and I loved it. Netflix and video media on the nexus 10 is a turn down. The screen is amazing but I sold my nexus 7 to watch media and read. The watching of media or movies isn't good at all.
I'm also debating of keeping or returning.
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I don't see the problem with Netflix. Seriously. Plays fine and looks as good as it can considering Netflix streams at 720p at best.
Don't see the issue with any other media either. There are issues with codecs but that's a problem with the Nexus7 as well, just comes with the AOSP territory.
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I don't see the problem with Netflix. Seriously. Plays fine and looks as good as it can considering Netflix streams at 720p at best.
Don't see the issue with any other media either. There are issues with codecs but that's a problem with the Nexus7 as well, just comes with the AOSP territory.
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Same here i cant find the problem with netflix, mine looks great. As good as it gets i can say.
Netflix video and audio don't match on my tablet. Also, Frames skips after a while.
Is my tablet defective??
Can you guys try a few movies and let me know.
Thanks.
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I feel the same way OP. I'm on my second one after returning the first for light bleed, go figure this ones worse. I like the size it just doesn't have the performance I was expecting. Yeah its got a huge rez, but my N4 feels 10x more fluid than the N10. Even just basic stuff like swiping to another screen feels better on the N4. IMO the android experience is just a lot better on the N4, which I find myself using even when I have the N10 sitting next to me.
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I did a factory restore a few hours ago wanting to return the Nexus, I reinstalled Netflix right now and it is running good. That's strange. I'm also not getting any WiFi drops like I was getting before. I'm going to keep an eye on this.
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have u any chance checked mark force gpu rendering before
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Don't get a Nexus 7. The screen isn't very good and screen lift.
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Did you get tired typing so much information about your conclusion? And you must be very well placed in the tech community to pass judgement on a device that SOLD, not shipped, sold, one million units last month alone. Screen lift? Seriously? that is so last month's news.
But thanks for your 8 word review of the N7.
Apples to Apples the N10 is the better hardware platform. No question. It has both a front and rear facing camera. Has a display that might rival the retina display on the iPad, etc.
Get the N7 if you want a tab that will fit in a jacket or back pocket, can be held in one hand and can be bought for under $300. It really comes down to size, and your intended use. The N7 is not for bragging rights. It's for having a pure Google device in the same price you can get a Kindle or Nook for.
I'm here to read about how the new 10's see what problems they might be having, etc. But I am VERY happy with my N7 and take it everywhere with me. When I get the N10 I'll be keeping the N7.
Im not bummed out, this tab is 100x better than the ipad
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have u any chance checked mark force gpu rendering before
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Whats wrong with checking that?
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Did you get tired typing so much information about your conclusion? And you must be very well placed in the tech community to pass judgement on a device that SOLD, not shipped, sold, one million units last month alone. Screen lift? Seriously? that is so last month's news.
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Well, my own anecdotal Nexus 7 experience is that I account for FIVE of the devices. 4 16gb units and 1 32gb. Every single one of them had a major defect, including my current 32gb.
First one had a bad USB connector as well as major light bleed, but never had time to develop the screen lift issue because it was on the way back to Asus in a matter of hours.
Second one had astoundingly bad light bleed in 8 places, once again sent back before the screen had time to lift.
Third one had modest light bleed, but creaked, and within a week the screen lifted an epic amount. I was worried I might slice my hand.
The fourth also had bad light bleed, came shipped with a broken tab on the back cover so there was always a gap on the left side, and (wait for it) the screen was doing an epic lift. Still waiting on its replacement to come back from Asus.
And my final and current model is an October production 32gb that seemed pretty good at first, almost no light bleed and the least washed-out looking display of the bunch. And within two days the screen was lifting.
Now, I only purchased 2, my first 16gb and my current 32gb, both at retail stores. I should also note that it cost me $80 so far in RMA shipping.
I like the form factor for some things, mostly books and surfing on the throne. I'm satisfied with the performance, and not unhappy with the purchase price. It does what it does pretty well. But it's built like a 80's Hyundai.
Love the N10, playing full encoded BD 720p movies with no problems. Haven't tested the 1080p BD encodes yet.
Netflix runs great, Slingplayer runs good.
My N7 goes everywhere with me. It has no issues and was a first run batch.. light bleed? who knows, i dont put mine in a pure black enviorment with max brightness just to find a problem. IMO once it's reported a few times, some poeple go out of thier way to find fault.
I agree the N10 gonna take some time to get used to to read on. But playing games on is fun....
Both great products and excellant build IMO
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Whats wrong with checking that?
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It either increases performance or causes stuff to break (well, I guess it could also do both ). It's worth checking out if you haven't though.
As for being bummed out; meh, I sold my Nexus 7 for a Nexus 10 because of the specs. A15 ARM processor, Mali-T604 GPU, 2560x1600 resolution, that just destroyed the Nexus 7's specs. It seems the Nexus 10 can run hot enough after a long enough period of load to throttle the CPU frequency lower, which is a slight concern. Nexus 4 also does this, but I'm not entirely sure if such a thing occurs on the Nexus 7 or not.
My main interest in getting a Nexus 10 was gaming. However, when playing DEAD TRIGGER and SHADOWGUN: DeadZone, I feel that the N10's size is a bit... too much. Getting a controller should easily solve this little problem though
But in any case, the Nexus 10 also has HDMI-out, rear-facing camera, 5GHz WiFi support, LED light notification, better front-facing camera, and front-facing speakers. Nexus 7 doesn't have any of that (unless something changed with the newer models).
No issues with Netflix for newer videos, older stuff doesn't look great on anything. Videos I'm streaming from PC look awesome and I just use a Nook touch for my reading, need eink for that. Yea some apps don't look as great as they could, but nothing as bad as an iPhone app on the iPad.
I think a lot of my thoughts and feelings stem from just coming from an iPad with thousands of tablet optimized apps, down to less than 100 on the n10. When it comes down to it, I use my tablet primarily for reading, web browsing, videos (YouTube, Netflix and Movies), taking notes, and very light gaming. I don't use that many apps on my tablet. However, I have a lot of apps on my gNexus since it has an internet connection 24/7. The only reason I use my laptop is when I want to do some real PC gaming.
After writing this post, I found some awesome review videos from YouTuber "oode". After watching those, I spent some time tweaking and getting my n10 set up. It helped me realize what a rad tablet we have in the n10.
I still have a few annoyances to figure out with movies (best player to use and rip settings), HD Netflix streaming, and better battery life tips. I am sure more Googling and XDA searching will help answer these.
Thanks for all of the feedback!
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UPDATE: Thanks for all of the feedback.
After writing this post, I found some awesome review videos from YouTuber "oode". After watching those, I spent some time tweaking and getting my n10 set up. It helped me realize what a rad tablet we have in the n10.
I still have a few annoyances to figure out with movies (best player to use and rip settings), HD Netflix streaming, and better battery life tips. I am sure more Googling and XDA searching will help answer these.
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Oode's reviews are the main reason why I bought my Nexus 10! After seeing his enthusiasm for the tablet I was sold. Google need to cut that dude a cheque.
Upgraded from Note 2 to Mega and here's some thoughts after using it for nearly a week. This is based on the unrooted stock rom.
Likes:
1. Bigger, brighter, and whiter screen on the Mega. It makes watching video on the phone a real pleasure. The white colors on my Note 2 are always yellowish and blacks are clipped.
2. More natural color compared to the Note 2. My favorite screen mode is "standard".
3. Handles videos well. Played 720p mkv action movies with DTS audio and it handles them without a single hiccup. I used Archos Player to do that. Didn't test the stock video player since it doesn't support DTS audio
4. Easier to grab compared to Note 2.
5. The power button and the volume rocker are easier to press.
6. Higher DPI. It seems Samsung is using higher DPI for fonts, which makes the phone feel more like a tablet than a phone.
Dislikes:
1. No S pen. If you use that a lot, then you are going to miss it. I use it sometimes but I can manage the life without it.
2. No AC3 support. Sammy wants to save money here therefore you will have to buy a third party player with AC3 and/or DTS decoding. Of course if you don't mind, you could always re encode mkv movies to MP4 with AAC or mp3 audio which is then supported. I am just lazy.
3. Not enough accessories on the market. This is not he most popular phone so not so many accessories are available yet. Hope there will be more.
4. The rear camera lens: why does it have to stick out so much from the back??? Look at the iPhone, and some Sony phones. They don't have that ugly protrusion at the back!
5. Although easier to grab compared to Note 2, it is still a slippery phone. I am getting a rubberized back case to improve that.
6. When I am typing, the predicted words comes up later than on the Note 2. It's noticeable but not annoying yet because I don't type that fast. You may not like it if you are a turbo texter.
Everything else is pretty much the same as my Note 2. The Mega may not have the fastest CPU in the world, and it doesn't have 3 Gb of ram, but I didn't experience much lag at all.
Games:
I don't play games so I asked my 8 year old boy to test it for me. His answer is "no lags". Of course he didn't test all those CPU and GPU intensive games so don't quote me on that.
Battery life:
At full blast which means full brightness, all radios on, it lasts between 5 to 6 hours. I am quite impressed.
Screen sharpness:
being a 720p phone with the largest screen (am I right? ), I was worried that I will see a lot of pixelation. In reality I hardly notice that at all. I am sure a 1080p screen will look nicer. Maybe we will see that in Mega 2? Let's hope for one. And I don't mind if they make the screen even larger. If they can narrow the bezel like they did with the Note 3, they can make a 6.5 inch screen without making the phone larger.
Pocketability: it fits in my pant pockets but I have to admit it reaching the limit.
Final thoughts: Obviously there's a limit how big a phone can be. With the Note 3 being nearly physically identical to the Note 2, it looks like Samsung has decided that's the largest size they are willing to go if they wanted to keep the Note series popular. Hence the Mega looks like their experimental device: let's throw everything on the wall and see what sticks. It will be interesting to see how the market responds to the Mega within the next few months.
Conclusion: I am keeping the Mega and selling my Note 2.
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Sent from my AT&T Galaxy Mega
I must add that the viewing angle of the Mega is less than the Note 2.
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Sent from my AT&T Galaxy Mega
I was strongly considering one (or a voice capable 7" Tab 3 for less!) but found a T-Mobile Note 2 at a really good price. The screen resolution never bothered me; my 7.0+ has the same resolution in a larger device and it looks just fine. It all came down to the deal I could get. I still might get a T211, though I'm not thrilled about it's camera.
So my daydream headsets have arrived from the Verizon promo. So far I'm pretty impressed with the experience and the build quality. The pixel having only 1080p has made for a somewhat odd "looking through a screen door" view, but the motion and controls are great. I have never tried vr before so I have nothing to compare it to. I did compare the nexus 6 and moto z play with the pixel in the daydream headset (granted the nexus and moto were using cardboard app). The nexus shows a slightly better picture than the moto and the moto slightly better than the pixel despite the pixel and moto z play having the same resolution and the moto being half inch larger. The pixel however showed the best motion which should be no surprise because it's the only one with daydream support.
After an hour or so of farting around in vr I felt just an odd feeling with my eyes. Not a head ache but similar to the feeling of driving for hours on end. I believe this could be a result of the lower resolution. Anyway, I'm very pleased with my included with purchase daydream headset and will probably use it a few times a month as time permits and new apps and games come out.
I received mine today as well promo from Project Fi and I must say I am also very impressed. I played around with the YouTube VR as well as some games. Great quality, and super comfortable when wearing the headset. YouTube VR is probably my most favorite. Puts your right in the action of the video. Super sweet.
Kind of wish I got an XL but only when using daydream. And even then it really isn't an issue. I love my pixel and my daydream, and Google home, and Chromecast.... Yeah
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I love Daydream so far. The low resolution is really noticeable if you look at it, but it's also easy to ignore if you don't, so.... My biggest complaint is that it's awkward to run existing VR (Cardboard) apps, since they won't show up in the Daydream Launcher. You have to put your phone in the headset, but not close it, wait for the NFC tag to launch Daydream, then switch back to your real launcher, run the app you want, close the headset, and finally put it on. Quite a ridiculous process just to launch an app! Someone needs to make a standard app launcher for Daydream.
Similarly, whenever a VR app asks for a permission, you can seemingly approve it with the Daydream remote, but then you have to remove the headset and approve it again by clicking on the screen. Very bizarre.
The Google Play Movies app is disappointing ,since you can't zoom or move the screen at all, forcing you to look straight ahead, instead of putting it on and staring up at the ceiling while lying in bed, which I enjoy doing with YouTube videos. I also wish it had the curved screen feature.
Hopefully things will continue to improve as time goes on. Most of the Cardboard apps seem to have been forgotten about and not updated in a year or more, and the Daydream controller is not compatible with whatever control mechanism Cardboard used (I guess it had a trigger button?), so many of those apps don't work well.
Just turn off NFC and you can use the cardboard apps to your heart's content. Also FYI you can use the USB A to C adapter and plug in an Xbox remote for truly nausea inducing gaming fun!
My concern is how incredibly hot the phone gets. I get worried every time I put it in the headset. And then it's only a matter of time before the "phone is getting too hot" message starts appearing.
My Pixel gets real warm in the Daydream gizmo, but certainly not "too hot to touch" as I saw one reviewer claim. Nothing to compare it to, so I don't know nothing about no screen door. I did take off my wet-apply matte screen protector because it made the image "grainy".
I played with it for awhile, looked at all the content that's available, etc. Pretty cool, but as far as I'm concerned it still belongs on the "gee whiz" pile. "Cool" only takes you so far, and I don't see any killer app for it at this point.
Actually, my 7-year old granddaughter is getting more use from the Daydream gizmo than I am.
Edit: Thx to tjarvis for that tip about turning off NFC to view Cardboard content; makes sense, but I hadn't thought it through.
360/3D video and games is the only killer apps for VR. The "big" screen apps (WSJ, CNN) is a joke, I rather read articles and watch 2D videos on my 24" monitor.
360 video is kind of fun to watch, but will the interest last?
I only tried 2 free VR games, so can't comment on the benefit of a real VR game over old fashion non-VR games.
My Pixel is so hot that Daydream app pops up a message saying it will slower the rendering, then the VR is so laggish that it is completely unusable. But I am using bluetooth earphone, I suspect the bluetooth earphone is drawing too much power in addition to VR.